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Is pasta making just time and practice?

Hello

I recently bought an Atlas pasta maker, and whilst I realise my first attempts probably won't be good, I am wondering if my go-to recipes are right, or whether I am just stupid.

I use the pasta recipe from Taste.com and follow it with no alteration. I find the pasta comes out with holes in it. So I add a bit of flour. Seems to work, but then goes the same the next time through.

What am I doing wrong, or do you have any chow hounder tips and hints?

Thanks
Cronks.

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  1. Stupidity has nothing to do with it! But literal-mindedness, following a recipe to the letter, might. Also, yes, practice is important as you have to be able to feel when the dough is right. Measuring isn't enough.

    The moisture content of flour can vary, and it follows that the amount of moisture you add can vary. In any case, I'm not familiar with the recipe you're using, but I do have a few tips.

    Knead the dough for several minutes by hand, even if you make it in a food processor or other machine. If you were to do it all by hand, you would knead for 30 minutes, so let that be your guide. The dough should be smooth and silky, not tacky to the touch, but not dry either. You will recognize this perfect moisture content when you achieve it, and being able to recognize it is more important than following any recipe to the letter. If you need to add a few drops of water, do so.

    The formula we give in "Sauces & Shapes: Pasta the Italian Way" is 1 pound (450 grams) sifted all-purpose flour and 5 medium or large eggs or 4 extra-large or jumbo eggs. We recommend you weigh your eggs (without the shell). For every 100 grams of flour, you want 50-55 grams of egg (1 USDA medium egg). In ounces that is 1.75-2 oz egg to 3.5 oz flour. Keep extra flour for dusting and adjusting. Let the dough rest, covered, for 30 minutes.

    When using a machine like the Atlas, it is important to work quickly as the dough begins to dry out as soon as you uncover it. Start at the widest setting and run the dough (a glob about as big as an egg or even a walnut to start with) through a couple of times, folding as the sheet becomes larger (and thinner). Working quickly, send each glob of dough through several times, gradually working down to the thinnest setting. If it tears on the thinnest, be satisfied with the second thinnest. You will achieve the thinnest another day.

    www.maureenbfant.com

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    1. re: mbfant

      Good advice. I'd say - Make the dough, knead it, and then let it rest 30 minutes before you start rolling.

      It helps to have a partner when you start rolling and cutting. Use extra flour to put it through the rollers and cutters. You'll probably have to roll each piece 6-7 times as you go through the settings on the roller.

    2. I always found adding a small amount of Semolina fixed the hole in the dough problem.

      1. I can't get that website to load, so can't comment on the recipe that you are using. I use Hazan's ratio of 100g of flour per egg. I have used AP flour, but usually use 00 flour from Italy.

        It takes time to know how the dough should feel. Expect a few failures along the way.

        1. When I first got my Atlas machine, I could not do it by myself. My husband had to help by catching the pasta as it came out. After awhile, he didn't want to help anymore and I found I could do it myself. But it's like you need three hands when you first try it.

          I also use a recipe that calls for mostly semolina fina along with the flour, as a matter of fact most of the flour gets sprinkled on the Atlas before each pasta sheets goes through. Never tried pure flour for the dough so can't comment on that. Also four eggs minimum. I believe a bit of olive oil in the mix is involved, but I'd have to look it up to be sure. It comes out very tender.

          1. TRU, very upscale Chicago restaurant, used to have a window into the kitchen so you could stand out on the sidewalk and watch them cook, and this was on a route I often traveled. One day two men were making pasta in a hand-cranked machine and as I passed they were holding up an unbroken sheet of pasta that looked to me the size of a bedsheet. Nothing cracked, broke, or fell on the floor. That imagine remains in my head as the classic illustration of "Don't try this at home---we are professionals".

            1. I use Marcella Hazan's recipe and do it in the food processor. Most days, the recipe is perfect. I find that after being processed, it looks like wet sand, and you would think it would be impossible to roll. But if I press it together in my fingers while still in the bowl, it sticks together. If it still seems "flaky" I will add a drop or two or three of water and whizz it again. Don't tell Marcella.

              I don't usually rest it, and generally don't have trouble with the Atlas, if I've got the right texture on the dough to begin with. The first few times through the first setting, it's usually a mess, with tears and holes. But I keep folding it on itself and running it through again until I have something approximating a rectangle. ONLY THEN do I start going to higher settings, and I usually can just cruise through right up to 6 (which is where I almost always stop; I find that 7 gives me trouble, and I like it a bit thicker anyway).

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              1. re: DGresh

                I use the Hazan recipe also, in the FP and don't rest it. I do very lightly flour a board so the dough when I'm laying it out and folding it picks up a little bit of the flour. I rarely have holes. Just a thought.

              2. I'm thinking of giving this recipe a try. Could one of you kind Hounders please take a look and tell me if you think it is a good one?
                Thanks

                http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2012/01/...

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                1. re: cronker

                  100 grams of flour per egg. Perfect ratio!

                  1. re: smtucker

                    Thank you. I very much appreciate!

                2. We also got an Atlas recently and our first attempt was disastrous. I am not a baker so recipes be damned but I tried everything I could read online. We started out using the recipe booklet that comes with the machine (egg pasta) and only ended up with a sticky, gooey, mess. It sounds like we needed to let the dough rest before running it through the machine but any other tips and tricks?

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                  1. re: abbyp

                    I use half AP and half semolina and dust liberally with more AP as I roll it thinner and thinner.