Talking about restaurants that no longer exist
- c oliver Aug 22, 2014 01:20 PM
(Apologies to OP. There are plenty of these; this one is brand new.)
IIRC, there actually used to be a rule that a "stroll down memory lane" wasn't allowed. That we are talking about today not the past. What Chow-worthy purpose does it serve? These pop up all over the place. ???
If actual "chow-worthiness" were a criterion, you could delete 75% of the GT threads.
Windmills, co. Windmills.
re: c oliver
I guess I just don't see much worth in complaining about the inevitable changes that a website such as this one -- i.e. a member-based forum -- will experience over time.
As you noted yourself, this is by far not a new development - unless you define *new* = within the last 10 years, or since Leff sold the site to whomever, whenever that happened (I don't pay much attention to CH's history, it makes me sleepy).
I joined in '07 or '08, and the discourse (using that term in the broadest sense possible, of course) on food and *plenty* peripheral topics was really not all that different from how it is today.
Food & finding deliciousness is obviously important to the majority of posters here, but let's not forget that "food" encompasses culture, traditions, rituals, family, LOTS of emotions -- just look at the huge number of nostalgic posts about discontinued items, your favorite >insert x< of all times, never mind the thread you linked to, etc. etc.
Ideally -- and probably more along the lines of the original intentions for creating this site, there would only be the local boards, perhaps HC, maybe cookware... everything of substance.
But given the massive number of participants with new people joining every day, the "chow-worthiness" will inevitably diluted. Trying to impose your personal standards & expectations is a lost cause.
There is still plenty of information here for those that seek it, and who know where to find it.
Just ignore the threads you find inane, uninteresting, or not chow-worthy.
You'll be a happier and much more content person for it.
If the OP is fond of a particular restaurant now defunct perhaps one can suggest existing restaurants that are similar? On San Francisco board, I had listed closed restaurants my dad had enjoyed when seeking recommendations for places he would enjoy now.
As with the What's for Dinner threads, we've found that people enjoy Chowhound more when there's a bit more leeway for less "laser focused" (to also take a stroll down memory lane) threads. Threads about beloved closed restaurants do sometimes lead to current chow tips, as posters share information on favorite recipes from the closed restaurant, or let people know where chefs are working now, or where that type of chow can be found at a currently open restaurant. Occasionally some of these threads are even updated with information that the long-closed place is getting fresh life in a newly opened venture. All of that type of discussion does help people eat better today. We also haven't found that the few nostalgia threads have overwhelmed discussion of the current dining scene, rather the opposite-- they draw in new posters and engage longtime posters. In the end, we think that engagement leads to more and better current chow tips. As always, it's easy to skip over a thread that's not of interest!
Let me quote what a very wise poster said a few days ago.
"I recently fell and hit my head really, really hard. After a short 'recuperation' it only hurt when I toughed the spot. So I didn't touch that spot :) I'd say if you get in certain not straight on positions and that's when it causes the problem...then don't do that :)"
If you don't like threads like that, don't read them.
Lamenting the closure of an old favorite from months or years ago can also spark a "where are they now?" response. If a chef or manager has moved to a new venue, I would like to know so I can see if I like the work he/she does at the new place.
Also, I would imagine restaurant staff peruse these boards for inspiration. I think there may be a few lessons learned from these threads (like what dishes were great, flaws or assets in service, location etc.).
I think the reply by the Chowhound Team responds perfectly to the OP.
From my own point of view, I would certainly see value if such a thread was posted to my home board. Apart from the obvious social inter-action which, to me, seems important on any discussion board worth its salt, there would be specific benefits.
For example, I post mourning the closure two years ago of Place W. Someone responds that I might like Place X which has similar cuisine or that Chef A is now cooking at Place Y or that the sous chef at Place W is now head chef at Place Z.
All very useful information. If there was once a policy that did not permit such discussions, then good on the Team for changing it.
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I missed this thread until now. I am participating in some memory lane threads right now. I tried to start some in the past and had them deleted and I was admonished for starting them. You ask "What Chow-worthy purpose does it serve?" You could say that about the entire NAF board and half the threads on GT. How the eff does bitching about whether a family member/friend does or does not appreciate some dish/function/get together/payment scheme or whatever serve any chow-worthy purpose other than to give posters the opportunity to vent, bitch, console or get out their pocket psychiatrist? Not like I haven't participated in those too.
If all posts had to pass a chow-worthy criterion, I suspect many of my and your posts would be deleted. At least memory lane threads talk about places we ate at.