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Aug 17, 2014 01:22 PM

Hoping that New York chowhounds are using discretion with their recommendations

This might be true in many places, but it strikes me as a particularly aggravating problem in Manhattan. In my family, you were supposed to be judicious and chary with restaurant recommendations, most especially with small Chinese places, not only because you selfishly hope they're not over-run, but because an inundation of customers often ends badly as the overall quality often takes a nosedive.

And this would seem to be a particular danger in NYC, because not only do we have a lot of foodies, but we're always flooded by tourists.

The immediate reason for my fuming is that while I've noticed the line for Prosperity Dumplings grow longer, and I seethe when I see it mentioned in print, most recently the line was the longest I've ever seen it. And just as I was turning away in exasperation, I heard someone say that it had gotten 2000(!) recommendations online.

So, while I love that we come to share here, I kind of hope that when we make discoveries Chowhounds don't share them promiscuously with Yelp and every other places, as if there's a need to brag. Okay, now you can all yell at me for sounding elitist. But it's really the same in other aspects of life - you don't want your charming vacation village to become a crude tourist trap, you don't want your scholarly seminar crowded with ignoramuses. You know what I mean.

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  1. Really?
    If I owned a restaurant I'm pretty sure I would be relying on people who LIKE it to tell their friends; not keep it a secret.

    Just like ANY business that relies on numbers.

    1. "So, while I love that we come to share here, I kind of hope that when we make discoveries Chowhounds don't share them promiscuously with Yelp and every other places, as if there's a need to brag."

      I doubt that is happening--we've seen multiple times in the past that NYC publications like Eater, NYT and Village Voice use CH as a *source* to find new places to write about. Especially on the Outer Boroughs board.

      Once you tip off your fellow 'hounds, you've basically tipped off the rest of the Internet.

      In this age of blogs, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc. nothing stays a secret for long. Also CH appears pretty prominently in Google search results.

      1. Secret's out on dollar dumplings. Has been for a while now.

        Anyway, it's an educated tourist that reads Chowhound. Others rely on Yelp and Trip Advisor, but most don't even bother researching restaurants, at all. Why not reward those that dig deeper? They're not the ignoramuses you hope to avoid.

        1. I understand your point and suspect those nyc walking tours, bus tours, and tourism industry websites and guides are a more likely source for spilling these so called secrets...

          And at the same time i can only be supportive and thrilled for these small businesses that are individually owned- especially with the continual onslaught of national chains that often put these places out of business. I would rather see a huge line at prosperity than at the new Denny's

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          1. re: Ttrockwood

            Well said, Ttrockwood.

            By the way, Denny's opens at 5 am tomorrow.

            Sadly, I just learned Fulton closed.

          2. You should be glad that little places are doing well. It means they'll stay in business. Look how many very good, even great restaurants go under every year. I'd love to be able to go back in time and find, say, Falai packed to where I couldn't get a table. Might still be there.

            So if the line at Prosperity is long, go to Lam Zhou. Or Vanessa's. Or wherever you like that has decent dumplings within three blocks.

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              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                Was one of the saddest closings of all time for me. Last I spoke to him he was back in Florence, don't know if that's permanent.

                Some of his former staff opened Ciccio over on 6th. It's more in the Caffe Falai vein - straightforward house-made pastas, nothing as modernist as his flagship was - but a solid little joint nonetheless.