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I can't remember how to charge my whip cream dispenser

I haven't used it in ages because I couldn't find the tips. So I found them, bought some N20 and now I can't figure out how to charge it. I think it's a Mosa? I'm not sure though as it was a gift and I've had it for a good 10 years. There is no branding on it, just the capacity on the bottom. It's aluminum and it has a hex shaped metal piece surrounding where the charge hole is. I found the little bag with the tips and there is a blue plastic cup type thing which perfectly fits the N20 cartridge. Trying to press it in isn't working. Maybe I'm not strong enough. I don't know, the new ones screw on and I see no way for this to screw in.

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  1. Post a picture maybe.

    http://www.creamright.com/category/mo...

    Should be a piece you put the cartridge in and then screw it into the top of the siphon. Does the piece that the No2 cartridge fits in have threads? If not, it is probably the wrong piece.

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    1. re: EatFoodGetMoney

      I've already been to cream right. As I already posted, there are no threads for the charger.

      1. re: rasputina

        I had the window open and didn't seem mcsheridan's response before I posted.

        Either way, time to post pics.

        Edit: Hah, this time mcsheridan and I posted simultaneously.

    2. Whatever dispenser you have, opposite the nozzle should be a cap (see first photo) and when you remove that you'll see the entry point for the cartridge; it pierces the cartridge and releases the gas into canister. Hopefully, you still have the part (not attached) that holds the cartridge and allows you to screw it onto that entry point.

      If you left the cartridge in its holder and left it in place the last time you used it, it will look like the second photo.

      If none of this applies, then you'll have to post a photo - maybe more than one - for us to figure it out.

       
       
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      1. re: mcsheridan

        Again, there are no threads period. There is a hex shaped metal piece opposite the where the tips go. There are no caps covering anything. This is where the cartridge for charging goes. I know that already.

        1. re: rasputina

          Well - we're flying blind without pics. Maybe the damn thing is busted & there's something missing from it.

        2. re: mcsheridan

          That sounds exactly right to me. (Who knew you could make whipped cream in it?)

          1. re: rasputina

            I looked at your pics, and found something similar online. It appears to be the Mosa 2060 or at least a similar model. I posted the picture I found on eBay* showing the blue cap you mentioned, along with a couple of chargers and other parts. It appears this model was once sold at Williams-Sonoma.

            If this is everything, then it's a completely different type from the ones we're used to. Does that small metal protrusion inside the hex appear to be the same size as the tip of the cartridge?

            From your description and the photo that I included, it would seem that the blue plastic cap is meant for you to hold the cartridge to insert it; whether by pushing, or by turning it in a fashion similar to a screw.

            Brute force could end in disaster; contact the manufacturer or, if they cannot be found, contact Williams-Sonoma; they might know something.

            ETA: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosa-TW-Whipp...

             
            1. re: mcsheridan

              Yes, I still have the bag, with the little pipe cleaner and the tips and the blue piece was what I described up thread as fitting the N20 cartridge. Like I posted, I wasn't sure if I'm just not strong enough to press it down and puncture or what? I haven't used it in a few years since I couldn't find the bag and I couldn't remember if it really was just push it on to charge or what.

              My mom gave it to me and it makes sense that they were once sold at Williams Sonoma she does shop there.

              Forgot to say, the cartridge does fit the side with the hex piece and I remembered that's where it charges. I ended up buying ISI brand chargers because that's what was available and when I couldn't get it to work wasn't sure if they had proprietary tips or something but it doesn't seem so.

              Thanks for looking I didn't think to check ebay.

              1. re: rasputina

                Charger cartridges are standard; one size does fit all. Good luck!

                1. re: mcsheridan

                  My husband said he'll try charging it when he gets home.

                  1. re: mcsheridan

                    Looking in detail at the EBay pictures I see that it uses 'Whip-it push valve cartridges'. They have a white plastic tip that is not present in the ISI style (which has a sealed, one-use, tip).

                    http://www.easywhip.com/push-valve-wh...
                    "The push valve (speed load system) whipped cream chargers are Kisag compatible and have a white tip and a safety valve. This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available."

                    Sounds like this dispenser is no longer usable.

                    My guess is that the plastic tip on the charger fits snugly inside the hole of the hex nut, and center pin depresses a spring value inside that tip. The mechanism may be similar to a tire valve and pump.

                    1. re: paulj

                      Good catch! I didn't notice the different tips on those chargers. It does appear that they are still manufactured & available - at least in the UK: http://www.nisbets.co.uk/kisag-cream-...

                      I hope rasputina sees your post before her husband tries anything with the charger this evening.

                      1. re: mcsheridan

                        Oh yes, those were the chargers we used with it. I haven't had to buy any in a long time. The new ones probably have a different valve and pin set up than mine requires. Which is why I couldn't get it to puncture. I guess I'm going to have to buy a new whipper since I don't really want to import the chargers from the UK. If they'll even ship them overseas.

                        1. re: rasputina

                          Glad you saw this before the local ER got involved.

                          1. re: mcsheridan

                            Are you kidding, of course the first thing he did was try and shave the N20 in the valve and then he asked me why we couldn't just get a new lid for it lol.

                          2. re: rasputina

                            I really like professional isi whippers, great valve design, durable, high quality machining and super durable threading. Just a very impressive product all around, guess that's why all the good restaurants have them.
                            Though if you only plan on making whipped cream, and don't do it too often, you might be better with something less expensive. My local Costco has the consumer isi siphons for a really good price and they're still better than other brands I think.

                            1. re: EatFoodGetMoney

                              I'm not currently in the market for one, but during our discussion this afternoon, I wound up watching this iSi video: http://youtu.be/XEltEN1tyVw

                              The iSi is on the pricey side, but after viewing this video, I understood why.

                              1. re: mcsheridan

                                Those are the ones my Costco has I think, they were like $60-$70, great price for what it is. The "gourmet," or professional models are around $110 I think

                                1. re: EatFoodGetMoney

                                  I think the main difference in the gourmet model is the red gasket, which can handle heat.

                                  1. re: paulj

                                    Oh, yeah, that's probably the big difference. I hang my siphon in a SV water bath to keep the temps right on point so it's a must have for me. Makes hollandaise very easy, it will even store for a few days in the siphon without any degradation. Fun, but dangerous because I make too much hollandaise.

                                  2. re: EatFoodGetMoney

                                    The profi model ones are considered professional according to Isi's website, they just show the Easy Whip as home models. You can use all the decorator tips and injector tips with the Profi along with the Gourmet and the Thermo Whip. The profi is 71 dollars on Amazon, I don't remember seeing them at my Costco when I was there last week but I could double check. The Easy Whip is just under 40 dollars on Amazon but you can't use the accessory tips.

                                    1. re: rasputina

                                      I think my Costco may be a special Costco, they have a big restaurant supply section, and sell whole primal cuts, whole lambs, ducks, pigs, and other items not generally available at Costco.

                2. http://www.creamright.com/category/mo...

                  shows Mosa parts. But the charger fittings appear to be the same the ISI brand - a cylinder that screws onto a fitting on the cap.

                  But if your's is 10 yrs old, the design could well be different.

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                  1. re: paulj

                    As I posted, been there already. Those don't look like mine and all of them have screw in covers.

                  2. Perhaps you used it too much for recreation?

                    1. You have like me the old kisag design in which you simply take the cartridge and press it on the valve...done. BUT they don't make those cartridges anymore. Now the cartridges are screw in. I don't know why they changed it but you will need a whole new system. I only have 6 cartridges left and do not believe they are refillable.