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      1. I can't see his show lasting very long. Not that most of the winners have a very good track record on the network, anyway... I don't watch Food Network much anymore, but I can say I would never be interested in watching his show.

        Whatever happened to the guy who won last year? He actually seemed talented.

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        1. re: OrchConductor

          A woman won last year. Demerest. She has her own show and was part of the redemption show with Zakarian.

            1. re: cwdonald

              Damaris. I guess she was so totally forgettable we even forgot her name!

          1. Well who was it? I didn't watch any of it but the first episode but I am mildly curious.

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            1. re: Firegoat

              Lenny "Cowboy Up" McNab won. Makes sense as the network seems to be going in a Midwest direction. I think his show will be cringetastic.

              1. re: Njchicaa

                In the old clips, I hadn't recalled that Bob T. essentially told Lenny he didn't need to be quite so "big" all the time. Wonder if that bodes anything for Lenny's show?

                I was shocked--was sure it was Luca's to lose.

                1. re: pine time

                  There's a discussion of Lenny's non-FNS Internet activity on foodnetworkgossip.com that makes me REALLY wonder about whether Lenny will get a show or not.

                    1. re: coney with everything

                      Wow, thanks for the heads up on that. I guess it shouldn't be surprising, except that you'd think Food Network could do a better job of investigating the social media/online history of their contestants?

                      1. re: coney with everything

                        Okay, given that these are true, why doesn't Food Network have a crew to look all this up BEFORE the show??? They've been burned enough w/ Paula Deen, Robert Irvine, Adam Richman.

                        1. re: chowser

                          FN probably doesn't want to spend the extra money.

                          Susie's hair extensions aren't cheap.

                          1. re: BubblyOne

                            Or maybe this was what Bob meant at the end when he told Lenny, "We have a lot to talk about."

                            If everyone with skeletons in their closet was banned from show business we'd be playing with sock puppets in our backyards for entertainment.

                          2. re: chowser

                            And don't forget Giada. However, all of the stuff about her is just rumor.

                            1. re: littlestevie

                              Guy Fieri also has a lot of fairly negative rumors around him - however in both cases it isn't this well documented social media record where there's any kind of deniability. It's also not the case of one stray tweet, interview, video where you can say "this was a horrible lapse in judgment/I'm going to rehab/oops".

                            2. re: chowser

                              The hell of it is, chowser, that it wouldn't even take a "crew" to find this stuff. Your basic $15 an hour intern with rudimentary Google skills would have found this stuff within an hour, IMO.

                              If I were FN, I'd have a fleet of lawyers vetting anyone who I even THINK would be on a show.

                            3. re: coney with everything

                              While it's true you could dig up dirt on almost anyone, I wonder if FN will take that risk and put him on the air. I'm surprised they didn't vet him better.

                              I could see them looking the other way if it was an isolated incident. But, the breadth of his online "candor" may be too much to ignore.

                              1. re: coney with everything

                                Wow. I'm also shocked FN didn't vet them all, or at least the top 10. Just another case of the "POV" being a contrived game. So much for all of that oh shucks, ma'm stuff.

                                1. re: coney with everything

                                  Woa.....that's a huge vetting oversight.

                                  Just the extensive level of vulgarity and FN's strong family friendly branding, it'd be hard to imagine how that could be rehabbed.

                                  If FNS didn't just commit a major vetting woops - here are my cynical thoughts:
                                  1 - they wanted to keep FNS but not actually produce a show and this gave them an easy out for not giving the "winner" a show.
                                  2 - they assumed that as the shows of the winners haven't done so well overall, that either controversy might gain more viewers or that general interest of the winner's show is just so low it doesn't matter.
                                  3 - Lenny's existing fan base was/is already so large that it just didn't matter and he was always going to win. I mean, personally I find the Pioneer Woman dreadful on television and her recipes *yawn* - but she clearly had a huge existing audience prior to the show and has kept/grown that audience.

                                  1. re: cresyd

                                    Remember there was one finalist/winner who was let go because he lied on his resume or something??
                                    Then Amy got a show.

                                    1. re: cresyd

                                      tend to think it was number 1.

                                      So what is his skeleton in the closet?

                                      1. re: DGresh

                                        Wasn't there someone named Jag? I think he lied about his background, including his military service?

                                        ~TDQ

                                    2. re: coney with everything

                                      Any direct link to this activity? I'm curious....

                                        1. re: cresyd

                                          What an incredibly interesting website. The best thing to come out of this fiasco. After watching - er fast-forwarding - through the finale that was a total waste of airspace, at least there's this.

                                          But why is most of article blanked out like the CIA got ahold of it and it's some security risk?

                                          1. re: chicgail

                                            You have to click through a pop-up survey to see the content.

                                            1. re: sockii

                                              Can anyone give a brief summary of the Lenny controversy?
                                              I'm not going to take a survey to see redacted content.

                                              1. re: monavano

                                                I just skimmed it. A lot of very vulgar sexual talk, and talking about f'ing (assaulting) a current FN star in an extremely crude way.

                                                1. re: DGresh

                                                  Whoa- is this Lenny posting on a website or his own website?

                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                    the videos have been taken down ..but the one found worst was the one where he was cutting a brisket and compares it to a juicy wet sexual part of woman...

                                                    1. re: girloftheworld

                                                      I'm sorry for all the questions, but is this video Lenny shot himself... what's the context?
                                                      Gross, in any case.

                                                      Thanks.

                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                        http://www.foodnetworkgossip.com/2014...

                                                        <<Here is a rundown of some of the comments, videos, and controversial things that Lenny has posted on the internet in the past:

                                                        WARNING - A lot of bad language below and NSFW videos due to language.

                                                        Lenny had a video on his Youtube page that was recently taken down as so many people were talking about how crude it was. He was cursing while cutting brisket, and the video included words such as the big C word.
                                                        Lenny posts as ChuckWagonCook on the Ron and Fez forums, and when he announced he was going to be on Food Network Star, he posted a teaser saying:
                                                        Without everyone out here...I would never of been out...............here?

                                                        As you know (or might not)...I was on Guy's Grocery Games this last year. Episode entitled "The Ol Switch-a-Roo" I ended up losing due to my undercooked lamb.

                                                        But that's not the point. Albeit it is a good point. At least for this thread....but still not the point.

                                                        The point I am getting at is this.

                                                        Years ago when I was phoning in to the Ron and Fez Show I knew that i had a certain "sticky" factor. (yes...like cum)...and I knew that stardom was in my future. I'm not trying to be arrogant or pompous...I just felt it.....just felt it.

                                                        Well.....here you go you cock sucking, faggot sticking, pussy licking, ass dragging, mouth breathing, knuckle draggin, keyboard jizzing, assholes......(my fans). That's means both of you.

                                                        I will be on Food Networks new season of.........
                                                        wait for it.......
                                                        So now I have a REALLY BIG ANNOUNCEMENT for everyone......
                                                        Someone commented, "He's taking over The Pioneer Woman show from the fake cowgirl Ree Drummond," and Lenny responded to that with:
                                                        "I'd fuck her...IN THE ASS!!!!!! that's right...I said it!!!"
                                                        When someone pointed out a typo to him, Lenny responded, "Thanks Andrew....and BTW typo is actually my middle name. Leonard Typo McNab. It's a black thing."
                                                        His profile one of the Ron and Fez forums says "I'm a fat fuck", and he has over 6000 posts if you want to root through them (You only need a valid email address to join). Here is a season long thread of people on the forums rooting for Lenny.

                                                        Lenny also has a Photobucket account under the name chuckwagoncook_2008 with odd and random videos>>

                                                        1. re: foodieX2

                                                          Thank you.

                                                          Now I know why Lenny creeps me out.

                                                          This is the best FN could do?
                                                          Really?

                                                          It's time to fold up the tent and go home, in that case.

                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                            It's just so extensive. Not wanting to open the can of worms over whether or not Adam Richman should have been fired - but his incident was basically all around one situation and while I think he could have/should have shown better judgment, it was just one incident. This is just a lot.

                                                            1. re: cresyd

                                                              I agree- this creepiness was a known quantity going in.
                                                              I can't believe no one caught this.

                                                              As I said before, there was a winner, or almost winner, who I believe was in the U.S. service, who lied about his resume.
                                                              The FN execs thought that was enough to disqualify him, and Amy got her show until she quit.

                                                              I'd rather have seen Baby Jane win than Lenny, especially after this revelation.

                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                Jag was a fan favourite and then in the middle of the show he "resigned" when his exaggerated military service was brought to light at that point Amy who had been "sent home" was brought back. Amy ended up winning she quit to go live in France.

                                                                1. re: girloftheworld

                                                                  Thank you for filling in the gaps for me!

                                                        2. re: monavano

                                                          he is in what looks like an apartment kitchen with hipster glasses on and this big smoked brisket on the counter he has a friend there who is doing the filming and he is describing the brisket...with no cowboy accent i might add... to this camera person it is litterallllllly food porn. it was called "Lenny cutting the brisket"

                                                          1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                            silly me! I thought I was looking at a cooking video..who knew it was going to end up being a sexually explicit lewd brisket fetish display!

                                            1. re: happybaker

                                              This link explains a lot about this guy. I did not really like his act the few timesI watched this show. After learning about his behavior, I doubt he will ever get a show on FN.

                                              http://www.foodnetworkgossip.com/2014...

                                                1. re: happybaker

                                                  My mother had dementia in her last years. She said 'ucky poo'.

                                                  I will now say that to my kids and they smile when remembering their grandmother.

                                          2. Luca was definitely easy on the eyes... but might have ended up another risotto/ricotta show??

                                            Lenny's got those CRAZY eyes... picturing Buffalo Bob Smith in the kitchen with Howdy Doody as his sous chef.

                                            Either way the show will probably air at 8am on a Tuesday morning, or something like that.

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                                            1. re: kseiverd

                                              I think Luca has a wider range than that. He made branzino for his last challenge. It really doesn't matter who wins. Food Network has given shows to non-winners like the sandwich guy (did he actually win? maybe he did and I can't remember anymore), Kelsey. And being a winner doesn't mean anything either. Other than Guy and Melissa, who else is on TV?

                                              LOL, Lenny does look deranged. He would do well w/ a crazy puppet sidekick.

                                              1. re: chowser

                                                Jeff Mauro (Sandwich King) did win his seasons. He's one of the few winners of past years I actually like and will on occasion watch.

                                                1. re: sockii

                                                  I'll watch Demaris Phillips sometimes. She toned down some from her NFNS days, and I find her reasonably interesting. Even taught this native Kentuckian a bit about my own state.

                                                  1. re: pine time

                                                    I like both Damaris and Jeff. They have just a bit of self-acknowledged goofball about them, but also come off as sincere.

                                                    Crazyeyes Cowboy Lenny comes off as if he just wants to be famous. Any kind of fame will do.

                                                    1. re: MplsM ary

                                                      The thing that has impressed me most about Jeff is he came into the competition with a fully-formed idea for a show and is still doing it. Try as I might, I can't watch him though. He seems like a nice enough guy and, yes, sincere, but I find him to be more immature and juvenile than goofy.

                                                      Strongly disliked Damaris during her season. Haven't watched her even once. I actually do like watching Melissa D'arabian once in awhile. I usually do pick up a tip or two. I find Aaron McCargo Jr. so very awkward. Is he still around? Don't watch him. I feel the same about Aarti as I do about Damaris, although, I am always very curious about her recipes. They shuttled her off to cooking channel for awhile. I'm not sure what she's doing now.

                                                      ~TDQ

                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                        I did not care for Damaris at all but I was flipping channels and there she was, teaching her uncle to cook lamb. She was charming, and imparted useful information.

                                                        I remember Susie and Bob asking Jeff if he could really do a show all about sandwiches. Everybody questioned him on this. "Have a point of view" is what they yell at everyone. Show up with a point of view and "it's too narrow." It took me that long to hate FNS.

                                                        I watch The Kitchen. I like it, and Jeff is a good fit for that group. Now they've all calmed down a little (Sunny finally stopped yelling (she's at least yelling less often), Katie seems to have gotten a voice coach, and Geoffrey and Marcela were always fine as they were). Jeff seems to be the goofy brother to them all, and sometimes it works. Sometime I fast-forward to the drinks recipes.

                                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                          I saw Jeff on the Kitchen in passing. He was funny and held his own among the others including Geoffrey Zakarian. I like that he's unassuming and not afraid to be enthusiastic.

                                                          I haven't seen Demaris, other than as a mentor but she seemed good.

                                                          1. re: chowser

                                                            I happened across Demaris giving tips on making popcorn (I know, not rocket science) but she gave some ideas I hadn't heard before on how to do it the old-fashioned way without burning it. (I use an air popper)

                                                            1. re: DGresh

                                                              i made her chocolate pots using mayo due to having a ton of mayonnaise leftover from another project... and they were good.

                                                          2. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                            I think they've all been cancelled except Damaris at this point. I haven't seen or heard anything about a new season of Sandwich King in quite awhile.

                                                            1. re: Njchicaa

                                                              Interesting. Even Melissa has been canceled?

                                                              ~TDQ

                                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                                I was under the impression that Melissa and Aarti both still have shows on the Cooking Channel - but I could be very wrong.

                                                                1. re: cresyd

                                                                  I actually watch Melissa's 10dollar dinners every now and then.. and get some good jumping off points

                                                                  1. re: cresyd

                                                                    There was some show about losing 5 pounds or something that both Melissa and Aarti were supposedly on. I never watched it on CC so I don't know if it is still on or not.

                                                                  2. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                                    It's been cancelled for a couple of years now though re-runs show up in the early afternoon lineup sometimes.

                                                                    1. re: Njchicaa

                                                                      So, I fell down an internet rabbit hole last night. I was searching for something about Jean Anderson which led me to something about Sara Moulton which led me to an update about Melissa D'Arabian.

                                                                      Apparently, her $10 dinners and her Lose 5 lbs shows have both been canceled. Starting last fall she did a web series for foodnetwork.com called "The Picky Eater Project" which seemed to be coupled with some blogging for them, too. She's got another book coming out in December ("Supermarket Healthy"). And, there's the major BRAVA! moment: she's just started writing an AP column, taking over Healthy Plate from Sara Moulton! http://www.ap.org/Content/Press-Relea... (Sara, for those of you who follow her, is taking on a new column called KitchenWise.)

                                                                      She's got a web page and Twitter and Facebook for those of you who are really interested in catching up in detail. http://www.melissadarabian.net/

                                                                      ~TDQ

                                                                  3. re: Njchicaa

                                                                    Sandwich King wasn't cancelled and actually was nominated for a daytime Emmy (he lost to Bobby).

                                                                    I'm not sure how many episodes are considered a season, but there were new ones recently.

                                                                  4. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                                    I wish Melissa D'Arabian would pronounce her OWN NAME correctly.

                                                                      1. re: sandylc

                                                                        I've never noticed! How does she pronounce it?

                                                                        ~TDQ

                                                                        1. re: sandylc

                                                                          She probably pronounces it the same way her husband's family does.

                                                                          1. re: MplsM ary

                                                                            You know, there's been a lot of talk on Chowhound about Americanizing the pronunciation of words from other languages. I can see the arguments on both side for the name of a food. But I would think that a family NAME should be pronounced correctly, don't you?

                                                                            EDIT: I just had a terrible thought - you don't think that FN would Americanize the pronunciation of her name in order to continue talking down to their audience, do you?

                                                                            1. re: sandylc

                                                                              The family NAME should be pronounced as the family wants it, not how some language geek thinks it should. My family name was Americanized when it passed through Ellis Island, though more in spelling than pronunciation. But I'm not going revert to the original Danish in the name of 'authenticity'.

                                                                              1. re: paulj

                                                                                Agree- I'm not going to tell Melissa how to pronounce her own name. If her husband says it that way, then wth?

                                                                                I grew up with an "ethnic" surname and it probably would be pronounced differently in its country of origin.
                                                                                If anyone asked me why I didn't say it a certain way I'd have laughed at them.

                                                                                1. re: paulj

                                                                                  Yup, PaulJ, I'm a language geek and have finally learned to agree with you. It's taken me that long to accept the US pronunciation of Des Moines. I try my hardest to be less judgemental.

                                                                                  1. re: Chatsworth

                                                                                    Yeah, sigh...good point. And I currently live in the land of "nick-lit" for Nicollet.

                                                                                    I'll keep it to myself on names.

                                                                                    But I'm still going to fight the "chipoltay", "vinegarette", and "nucular" battles. ;-)

                                                                                    1. re: sandylc

                                                                                      By all means keep fighting the good fight and add EXpresso to your list please.

                                                                                    2. re: Chatsworth

                                                                                      Then you may want to take some time before going to Versailles, OH.

                                                                                      While US town name pronunciations still can give me giggles - family names I agree go with the family pronunciation. When I lived in Israel, the Hebrew spelling of my Americanized German surname (Bowman) reverted to a more German/Israeli pronunciation (think more like Bauman). After correcting people a few times, it was just a case of "forget it - in Hebrew, this is it". Were I to have lived/had children in Israel - that would have been how they would be raised pronouncing it.

                                                                                      1. re: cresyd

                                                                                        Oh, my, I just remembered about Vienna, Illinois. Pronounced there as, "VY-enna."

                                                                                        1. re: sandylc

                                                                                          I used to think of Bagota, NJ as one of those badly pronounced American town names - until I learned that the name had nothing to do with the South American capitol.

                                                                                      2. re: Chatsworth

                                                                                        OK, I give. How should "Des Moines" be pronounced? Is it the same in Washington as in Iowa? Or France?

                                                                                        1. re: bbqboy

                                                                                          Well, coming from Europe, I've always wanted to pronounce it the French way. Not so much!

                                                                                          1. re: bbqboy

                                                                                            I think the Iowa one does not pronounce the final 's', while the Washington one does. Neither pronounces the first 's'.

                                                                                            1. re: Chatsworth

                                                                                              <VBG>
                                                                                              ok, guess the american pronounciation of Pend O'reille (Idaho). the apostrophe is optional :-))

                                                                                            2. re: paulj

                                                                                              You're absolutely right. It's their right. And it's my right to be (now quietly) irritated.

                                                                                              The whole D' thing just niggles at me, though. Why would one say the name of the letter rather than the sound of letter "D" here? Is this another one of those East Coast Italian-American pronunciation oddities, like "mootzarell"?

                                                                                              OK, that's my rant for the month. Over.

                                                                                              ;-)

                                                                                2. re: sockii

                                                                                  And he's on "The Kitchen", right?

                                                                                  1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                                                    Yes, Sandwich Guy is on The Kitchen with Sunny Anderson and Marcella Valladoilid (??) both of whose shows have also been cancelled. FN has really cleaned house. Even Aunt Sandy is without a show these days.

                                                                                    1. re: Njchicaa

                                                                                      To make room for more Bobby Flay competition shows? At least he has the cooking chops.

                                                                                      ~TDQ

                                                                                      1. re: Njchicaa

                                                                                        Primetime competitions and daytime cooking shows do not compete with each other. They occupy different slots and appeal to different markets.

                                                                                        I haven't looked at it closely, but I think cooking shows normally have a shorter run than competitions, even if the premise and execution is good. It is harder to maintain a freshness and variety when one person carries most of the load (at least in front of the camera).

                                                                                        Today's schedule is heavy with Giada, Contessa and PW - but I also see Claire, Sandra, Melissa, Anne, and Rachael. And right on the edge of primetime, last year's FNS.