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Two Buck Chuck? No Thanks

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Ick ick ick.

I only bought 2BC (here it's 3BC) once or twice and wasn't too happy with the taste. I guess wine should cost at least $4 :)

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  1. A. I have never had the stuff
    B. there is no evidence cited in the article
    C. Since when is adding sugar and/or other ingredients new to the making of cheap wine?

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    1. re: gourmanda

      I'm not a wine drinker...but I routinely buy the 3-Buck Chuck wines by the case for my friends up in St. Lucie County...and they love it...and they're pretty knowledgeable wine enthusiasts....

      Spoke with the manager at the Trader Joe's in Kendall....and he says they move 20 pallets of the stuff a week....and that's a semi load...so that speaks for itself....

      Potato / Po-tahh-to....Tomato / To-mahh-to....

      EMac
      Ft. Pierce, FL

      1. re: LargeLife

        The fact that a store sells a semi worth of it a week really just means that it's popular and people like it. It doesn't mean that it's good.

        1. re: virtualguthrie

          Seems to be a lot of confusion between those two things among a lot of people.

          1. re: virtualguthrie

            I don't think anybody spending $2 on a bottle of wine thinks they are drinking something on par with Stag's Leap or Ferrari Carano.

            Drinkable? Maybe, I can't say. Good? No.

            1. re: jpc8015

              have you ever tried it?

              Most of the CS I've tried has been pretty respectable.

              No Baby Jesus wearing velvet slippers, but more than decent for an every day wine.

              1. re: sunshine842

                I know that I have had it in the past, I just don't have a good recall of it. I'm sure that it is a decent mid-week drinking wine. I can appreciate that.

                I just don't think anybody is going to confuse it with a Berringer Knight's Valley Cabernet anytime soon.

                  1. re: sunshine842

                    I understand that but you have all kinds of yahoos who try to draw that level of comparison. Notably, the author of the HP piece who decries Charles Shaw for their practices when virtually every wine producer in that and every price point on up to Clos du Val use very similar practices.

                    1. re: jpc8015

                      c'mon -- you're going to be pretty hard-put to find anybody who has any sense of logic at all who would put a $3 non-vintage blend (grapes and producers) up against a $25-30 vintage of a single producer and possibly single varietal.

                      We've already established that the writer has exhibited such a severe case of cranio-anal inversion that he'll need a glass insert in his navel to ever see the light of day.

                      1. re: sunshine842

                        Head on over to the wine boards and you will see plenty of douche bags who will assert to never drinking Charles Shaw because it isn't on par with Château Mouton Rothschild.

                        1. re: jpc8015

                          We are no longer big wine drinkers but we do have a well-stocked wine fridge and overflow in a cabinet (for guests). Our wine usage is pretty much limited to cooking and the Shaw wines fit the bill well. I'd rather use a few $4 bottles of wine to steam artichokes than $14 bottles.

                          On the other hand, my sister-in-law, who just wants a glass in her hand with something red and alcoholic has no problem drinking Shaw.

                          1. re: jpc8015

                            I read the wine board (and contribute) with a fair amount of frequency.

                            1. re: sunshine842

                              So you know what I am talking about.

                              1. re: jpc8015

                                I just don't read them once they get too wrapped around the gears for my taste.

                                Not too many d-bags, just a lot who spend a lot more time thinking about wine that I do. It's all good.

                  2. re: sunshine842

                    I think it's velvet trousers, but that *is* one of my all-time favorite wines! Thanks for bringing a smile to my face on this otherwise typical Monday . . .

                    1. re: zin1953

                      I've only ever heard it as slippers...but same concept, I think!

                  3. re: jpc8015

                    to many folks andythng with alcohol in it that doesn't make you sick is "good."

                  4. re: virtualguthrie

                    If the masses like it than it is good enough....for a couple bucks. Try not to overthink this product.

                    1. re: virtualguthrie

                      The "best" wine in the world is the wine that tastes best . . . TO YOU!

                      1. re: zin1953

                        ***clapclapclapclap***
                        Bravo!

                        We used to attend the Salon de Vignerons Independents twice a year in Paris with dear friends. It became a running joke -- if it was sweet, they'd like it -- if it was big and red, we'd like it -- and the truly remarkable wines everybody liked!

                        1. re: zin1953

                          I disagree. There is always a better wine out there and education like any other field is critical to get people over the hump. No one wants to stay in grade school their whole life. The industry needs to educate and graduate people into better wine that does not necessarily cost much more. Columbia Crest Two Vines is a superior product and a few more dollars.

                          1. re: wineglas1

                            A few more dollars could be 300% of what people are paying for Charles Shaw. That is a considerable increase.

                            I love Bogle Petite Sirah. I've also had people tell me that it is vin de merde. I don't care. I like it and it is pretty affordable.

                            1. re: jpc8015

                              as long as it's your money and your glass, I'll argue for your right to enjoy it.

                                1. re: zin1953

                                  (I might bite a hole in my lip if it's Boone's Farm, but I'll keep my mouth shut...)

                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                    Technical foul: Boone's Farm was (is?) in a separate category of "pop wines," rather than in the category of "still table wine" that 2BC is in . . .

                                    1. re: zin1953

                                      but if someone wants to drink it, I'll gag inwardly, but won't say a word.

                                      (I'll also make a mental note to never open wine *I* like for them...)

                                        1. re: sunshine842

                                          Why not? Perhaps they are poor. Many well-educated, cultivated people have limited incomes for various reasons. I earned more thirty years now than I do now. Many highly-educated people have very precarious incomes nowadays.

                                          We don't have "two buck chuck" here in Québec, due to taxation (if it all went to healthcare and education, that would be fine). But I am certainly knowledgeable about wine and food, and enjoy things I can rarely afford to buy.

                                          I'm not saying that to complain about my life. I'm not homeless or on social assistance, and the work I do is rewarding - it is just very irregular now.

                                          I admit I've never drunk the stuff, and I very much doubt I would if I visited the US, as a wine three times as expensive seems cheap to me, and I'm sure I'd find better ones.

                                          I'm more worried about more upscale New World wines (not only the Americas) that contain far too much residual sugar.

                                          1. re: lagatta

                                            Lagatta, by and large the stuff generally *is* crap -- technically sound, commercial-grade "plonk" that borders on "insipid." But it certainly is not flawed; it won't kill you; and obviously thousands and thousands of people not only drink it, but drink it REPEATEDLY!

                                            Sunshine and I are in complete agreement on this score. Neither one of us (I'm sure) would drink it voluntarily, and the fact that someone else enjoys it tells us -- well, it certainly tells ME -- a lot about the individual's taste (and knowledge) when it comes to wine. And neither one of us would open a wine we adore for someone who adores 2BC . . . unless that individual is a student in one of my wine classes.

                                            1. re: lagatta

                                              having ventured over to the back 40 at Boone's Farm in my younger years, if that's all I could afford, I simply wouldn't drink wine at all, saving the money until I could afford a bottle of Charles Shaw (which, at $3 a bottle, is actually cheaper than Boone's Farm....)

                                              1. re: sunshine842

                                                Potters 100 proof vodka will give you the most bang for the buck.

                                                1. re: jpc8015

                                                  not if you're looking for a glass of wine..

                                                2. re: sunshine842

                                                  Oh, I heartily agree, and at least it isn't sweet!

                                                  I've never drunk Boone's farm either, but I shudder at the horror.

                                  2. re: wineglas1

                                    And how is that is disagreement with what I wrote?

                              1. re: LargeLife

                                Largel I have heard the "knowledgeable" word over used. They are not serious wine drinkers. The stuff is terrible. McDonalds is also really popular and they move truckloads of processed burgers every week too.

                                1. re: wineglas1

                                  "The stuff is terrible"

                                  ...says you.

                              2. Oh man. You just ruined it for me. I only cook with it but still.....

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                                1. re: Njchicaa

                                  Exactly. We buy solely for cooking.

                                2. The "article" you linked to is about as credible as my aunt's hairdresser making $2317 week working from home, click here and find out how!

                                  1. Oh no, it's not vegan? Ridiculous what passes for "news" these days.

                                    1. the more I read on HuffPost the more I'm beginning to consider it the newest iteration of "journalism" like the National Enquirer.

                                      This entire article is a showcase of how very little the writer knows about wine, particularly wines produced for the mass market.

                                      (produces overripe grapes? Really? EVERY wine region produces overripe grapes if you don't pick them in time....)