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Next trip coming soon, but first...

My next Vegas trip is only 7 weeks away and obviously I can't wait. Here are the restaurant reservations I have so far:

Lunch: None yet, but planning to go to CarneVino, maybe Delmonico, maybe LOS, maybe Bouchon (brunch only!!!). Still a lot to think about here.

Dinner: L'atelier(would love to do the tasting but will only have about an hour to eat), Yusho(omekase), B&B(Regional or Pasta tasting menu), Giada, Bazaar Meat (with the fellow chowhounds), REALLY want to go to Raku this time. Possibly Gordon Ramsay Steak. Any other ideas? Preferably looking for reservations later in the evening.

Here's the big question(at least the first one of what will probably be many)... Where can you get a great dinner on a Sunday night around 11-11:30pm? This was where I was looking at Firefly since Raku is closed Sundays and it was open so late.
I see that Jaleo is supposed to be open that late, but they don't seem to take 11:15 or 11:30 reservations.

Thanks, looking forward to everyone's ideas...

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  1. Yonaka (http://www.yonakajapaneserestaurant.com). I believe they go to "Happy Hour" again at 11 PM, which makes it even better. Unfortunately they do not post their "Specials" menu on-line; those specials really showcase the creativity of the kitchen.

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    1. re: QAW

      That looks/sounds really interesting and with the right mix of people there, could be a ton of fun.

    2. Here's another question...What would be a good place to eat at Caesars after a concert? Or should I just plan to go elsewhere?

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      1. re: LongIslandChef

        Which night? The concerts I have seen there in the past have always let out on the early side which should make available several options. I'm not a huge fan of the Caesars stock of restaurants (Guy Savoy notwithstanding but uber expensive) but there are some decent options. Never getting much love on this board but always solid Spago is an option (now that I think about it you should also consider for lunch. Good lunch special deals along with full menu.). I ate at Joes a million years ago and enjoyed it. Pedestrian if you ask me but solid. Mirage next door and Tom Colicchio's steak joint has been getting decent reviews (I have never been).

        As to your above late Sunday night dinner, throats a tough one. In June we had a 9:15/30 resy at Jaleo and scored the private room (we were 9 people and the space was perfect) and when we were leaving, close to 1130 if I remember correctly, it seemed sparsely occupied without the vibe it has earlier in evening. And I do remember that some of the stations were all closed and staff were cleaning. QAWs suggestion may be best.

        1. re: LVI

          Its a Tuesday night, but yes I figure it should end by 9 or 9:30 at the latest. I believe it starts at 7 or 7:30pm.

          1. re: LVI

            Keep in mind the dinner and lunch/café menu at Spago are quite different.

        2. It's a shame that you only have an hour to eat at L'Atelier- we didn't do the tasting and were still a couple hours. One hour seems awfully rushed, especially when it's not an inexpensive place.

          Do NOT miss Raku, have gone every visit since my first dinner there.

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          1. re: BubblyOne

            One hour is certainly not ideal, but I'm a pretty quick eater anyway, so it shouldn't be too bad. Probably won't do the tasting menu, just pick about four dishes I'm interested in and go with that. A couple choices probably will be from the tasting menu though.

            1. re: LongIslandChef

              Have you eaten there before?

              I have found it to be very mechanical, if you will. And by that I mean it almost feels like it is cooking by numbers. All the "chefs" have their stations and duties and just prep and move on. To be fair I have not been back in 3 years but then3 times I went I have been very underwhelmed. Not bad...not great.

              1. re: LVI

                Haven't been there since, I think, 2008. Thats one reason I really want to go back. I enjoyed my dinners there and have wondered if its held up six or seven years later.
                For some reason 7pm was the earliest I could find a res, but I did write in the reservation that I would appreciate if they could get me in a little early. Even 6:45 would be a big help.
                Still might end up canceling and going elsewhere. I'll be figuring out a lot more tomorrow since I'm off and have the thinking time.

          2. Consider Herbs and Rye for that late Sunday meal - it'll require a cab, but it is quite good and the cocktail menu is enormous. Griddle Café will be new at SLS by then and open 24/7.

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            1. re: uhockey

              I'll have to look into Herbs and Rye. No problem about the cab, I take them everywhere anyway.

            2. Chada Thai http://m.chadavegas.com is open until 3am nighty so that might be a good option for Sunday night. Raku followed by Sweets Raku are essential. Yonaka as someone mentioned before, is worthy of a visit, reminds me of Uchiko in Austin.

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              1. re: vegasjlt

                I had completely forgotten about Chada Thai, thats another interesting option. Would love to try it, especially after my wonderful experience at LOS with QAW on my last trip. That was my first time trying really top notch thai, would like to see if they can match up.

                1. re: LongIslandChef

                  Completely agree on Chada, and also made the comparison in my review of Yonaka to Uchi/Uchiko. It is a favorable one, and the desserts at Yonaka are better. :)

                  1. re: uhockey

                    The longer this thread is going on, The late night options seem to be getting better and better. Now the choices between Yonaka, Herbs & Rye, Chada Thai and Raku. Although, since I do enjoy eating late, I suppose I could get to all of them.

                    1. re: LongIslandChef

                      The wine and beer list at Chada is impressive, too.

                      1. re: Dave Feldman

                        Was just looking at the beer menu posted on-line and it definitely makes me happy. I'm not big on wine, only once in a while, but good beer? Now you're talking!!!

                        1. re: LongIslandChef

                          There is something about a Hitachino White Ale, paired with some of the spicier dishes on the Chada menu, that is just about the epitome of what late-night dining should be.

                          1. re: QAW

                            You have no idea how happy I am reading that post right now. Like you said in a much more succinct way, it doesn't seem possible to get much better than that.

                            1. re: LongIslandChef

                              This could actually be one of the keys to your decision - what is the food/drink ratio in mind? Because of Bank's background much of the menu is deftly crafted towards pairing with alcohol, and it is sometimes tempting to call Chada an "Iza-Thai-ya". Even the dishes that also appear on other Thai menus are going to have that little extra nuance or spice that come to life even more when paired with the proper libation (a contrast with a place like Yonaka, where the subtle flavors are more food-first in terms of pairing).

                              How about a roundtable question for the illustrious Mr. Feldman - if one were to state that Bank may genuinely know as much about pairing Thai cuisine with alcohol as any person on the planet, would that be a pretty fair assessment (and not hyperbole)?

                              1. re: QAW

                                Wow, I'm getting excited to try Chada. I might have to order a bunch of different dishes to really put their pairings to the test.

                                1. re: LongIslandChef

                                  Before they had the liquor license I went to Chada with 3 different beers (Alpine Nelson, Cantillon St. Lamvinus and a Hill Farmstead Saison that I cant recall). Gave him tastes of each and he was able to knock it out of the park recommending dishes to pair with each of them.

                                  Unfortunately I had some personal problems and did not get to do a write up to recall exactly what we had.

                                  1. re: LongIslandChef

                                    honestly after you have eaten LoS, Chada seems inferior IMO. Been there around 5 times each time it has gotten worse tbh.

                                  2. re: QAW

                                    Could be, QAW, could be. If he has any rival among people I've met, it is Bill Chutima of Lotus of Siam. He was Bank's early mentor and back when Bill was working the floor at every service, he made great choices for me.

                                    The vast majority of the best Thai restaurants I've tried in Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago are either BYOB or have only a token wine list.

                  2. If you're thinking about something on a Saturday, either breakfast or lunch/brunch, let me know. The off-strip list of good restaurants is growing by the day here in Vegas.

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                    1. re: uhockey

                      We could definitely meet up Saturday for brunch/lunch. I'm supposed to go to the Barrett/Jackson auctions in the late morning or early afternoon.

                      I just want to go check out the cool cars, don't really care to see how much they sell for. I'll just walk around the "lot", take some pictures and I'm gone. Saturday is the third day of the auctions, so by then I'll probably be sick of it and we could have a nice leisurely brunch.

                      1. re: LongIslandChef

                        Groovy. E-mail me once you have your agenda in mind and we'll sort something out. If not brunch and you'd like to check something out in Chinatown or elsewhere we can make that work, too.

                        1. re: uhockey

                          Will do, my plans are starting to come together. Slower than I'd like, but I'm getting there.

                    2. Let me add Rose. Rabbit. Lie. to your radar. I'll have my thoughts up tomorrow most likely (though since people are apparently claiming I'm 'promoting' something via my blog...though I'm not sure what...I may not be able to post my thoughts here on CH as I have for YEARS) but suffice it to say that I feel it is the best restaurant no one is talking about in Las Vegas right now. While opinions of the 'scene' may vary, the food coming out of that kitchen is nothing short of excellent across the board. Left to my own choosing but forced to go back to any restaurant in the city (no new spots) on someone else's tab I'd be hard pressed to decide between Twist, Joel Robuchon, or RRL.

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                      1. re: uhockey

                        As a solo diner, should I add RRL to my list for my November trip (maybe instead of Yusho)?

                        EDIT: Just checked their website; they're not open on Monday (when I am planning to dine at Yusho (or maybe Gordon Ramsay Steak--still undecided)).

                        1. re: ellenost

                          Yusho is a far better choice for a solo diner, as would be Raku or Yonaka if you want to get off strip.

                        2. re: uhockey

                          Interesting. You know, I've looked at the Cosmo website a bunch of times and I wasn't sure quite what RRL was. I thought it was a bar that had some food options. Looks like I'll have to take a closer look at it. Might even be an option for my first night in town.

                          1. re: uhockey

                            Can't remember which LV publication I read it in but in a nut shell the author said it is some of, if not the best pasta in the city. I'm dying to try the place. Any takers for Oct 3 or 4?

                          2. Well, my trip is only about three weeks away and while I still have to make a bunch of the reservations, here is my current lineup (for dinner with other options thrown in):
                            Carnevino, Yonaka, Chada, Raku, Rose Rabbit Lie, Yusho, Giada(still on the fence with this one, thinking maybe Herbs and Rye instead that night), B&B (maybe for the regional tasing menu), Sage (also a maybe), Jaleo (have wanted to go here for a couple years now and just never seem to go, will this finally be the trip?) Comme Ca (another one I've been meaning to get to for a couple years now), Cut (have been thinking about giving it another shot after my first so-so experience years ago) and of course Bazaar Meat with some of the fellow Chowhounds.

                            So I'm getting there, but still work to do. Lunch will likely be on the fly, except for Saturday where hopefully uhockey is still up for brunch/lunch(but not too early lol).

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                            1. re: LongIslandChef

                              Presented solely in the FWIW mode, and with the obvious it-doesn't-need-to-be-said-but-I'll-say-it-anyway disclaimer: YMMV.

                              I have been decidedly UNDERwhelmed on each of the three occasions I've been to Comme Ça. Not worth it, in my opinion.

                              1. re: zin1953

                                Completely agree. Would suggest db brasserie instead

                                1. re: lvnvflyer

                                  I went to DBbrasserie on my last trip. Did enjoy it, especially the escargot. Could go again, especially since I do spend so much time in and around the Venetian/Palazzo anyway. Plus, I am interested in trying the duck confit.

                                  1. re: LongIslandChef

                                    There is rumor comme ca will shutter by year's end and I think those rumors are louder than a whisper, for once. The Confit cinnamon roll has long been on my 'to try' list, but I've not yet pulled the trigger.

                                    I'll have been to Omae and Bazaar Meat by the time you come, as well as Carnevino for the Riserva, so will give you some feedback before you arrive.

                                    1. re: uhockey

                                      Look forward to the feedback!!!

                                      Just made my Raku reservation, very happy about that. Do I have to make one a Raku sweets as well? Or can you just walk over there after a meal at Raku and get in without much wait? Will be late night for sure. My dinner res is for 11:30pm.

                                      We still have to figure out about that Saturday brunch/lunch as well.

                                      1. re: LongIslandChef

                                        I cannot imagine ANY wait at Sweets Raku after a 11:30 meal at Raku, but then again I can count on one hand how many times I've been up at 11:30pm in the last calendar year. ;)

                                        Let me know regarding Saturday whenever you sort it out. :) You have my e-mail.

                                        1. re: LongIslandChef

                                          Here's the hours for Sweets Raku https://m.facebook.com/sweetsraku/abo...
                                          Sweets closes most nights at midnight, so you might have to have dessert first or find another time.

                                          1. re: vegasjlt

                                            Well, that kinda sucks. Can't believe Raku is open so late every night and sweets raku closes so much earlier. Guess I'll either have to try it another night, or maybe on a future trip.

                                            1. re: LongIslandChef

                                              ...sweets raku before raku would be perfectly logical.

                                        2. re: uhockey

                                          Been to comme ca twice and was disappointed both times. Generally am a fan of the Cosmo 's restaurant line up and would be happy to see something new in that space.

                                          1. re: lvnvflyer

                                            Same here about the Cosmo, but it looks like I'll be skipping Comme Ca. Seems like no one has anything positive to say about it, what's the point? The dish I was most interested in was the bone marrow app, but I can get it other places, even Public House at the Venetian.

                                            I might just end up going to Jaleo and probably over-ordering. So many dishes on their menu I'd like to try. Plus, they're open late, a big plus for me since most nights I have to eat at about 11 because of shows and such.