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Jul 30, 2014 12:14 PM

why is cider on beer board?

just curious

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  1. Are you asking about cider in general, or hard cider? Typically, hard ciders are consumed where beers are consumed, and sold alongside with it, so that is probably why it is discussed here and not the spirits board.

    I don't think there was ever any intention for non-alcoholic ciders to be discussed here.

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    1. You have a point. Cider production is much more like Wine making than Brewing.

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        1. re: TroyTempest

          Wine Drinkers are likely to order a Cider when at a Beer Bar (assuming they do not like Beer)

      1. I don't know if wine enthusiasts, home winemakers, etc, have historically embraced (hard) cider. I do know that homebrewers have taken an interest in cider (and mead). So it may be sort of a cultural issue.

        A lot of British and US ciders are closer to beer in strength. In the US there is a tax advantage to making cider that is not too strong. I forget the cutoff, but commercial cider incurs the beer tax if below the cutoff, and the higher wine tax if it is stronger, so there is an incentive to keep the alcohol at a modest level.

        A lot of US ciders come in kegs as well as bottles, so there is another thing in common with beer.

        1. This has often puzzled me. Likely because it is served much like beer in places where beer is the main drink. Technically, it is apple wine. I have tried many kinds and really never order a second glass. I would like to try the version made from pears, "pearie" I think.

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          1. re: Tripeler

            The drink made from pears is called Perry. Not to be confused with the awfully sweet pear ciders made by Kopparberg,Bulmers etc.

          2. Where would you put it? Just curious, too.

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              1. re: chefj

                I think at one point it was.... and the real issue is the signal to noise ratio. Wine may be similar but the discussions around vintages etc may drown out the cider discussion. I personally think that it fits the best here, even if the analogy is not perfect. You are also seeing a lot of the big beer companies getting into Cider now (Stella for example sells a Cider in the US now.)

                1. re: cwdonald

                  Yes, and Boston Beer Co. now makes more money from Angry Orchard Cider than they do from Sam Adams beer...

                  1. re: cwdonald

                    Everyone has their opinion.
                    I find the Production and Product much more similar to Wine.

                    1. re: chefj

                      Good for you!

                      I think it is more about what English people drank in pubs than anything else. LOL