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It's time to play MR TASTER'S **NAME THAT PASTRAMI SUPERCHALLENGE™**!

The first Chowhound to NAME THAT PASTRAMI wins an extra special prize-- the adulation and admiration of Los Angeles Chowhounds everywhere (and perhaps a lunchtime pastrami sandwich with yours truly... if I like you :)

HOUSE RULES:
1. You may ask specific questions about the physical characteristics of the pastrami or the sandwich itself
2. These photos were taken this afternoon somewhere in Los Angeles County.
3. You must back your answer up with reasoning. Spaghetti-at-the-wall answers listing random delis will be considered solely for discussion purposes only, and will not qualify as an official answer to MR TASTER'S **NAME THAT PASTRAMI SUPERCHALLENGE™**.
4. Other questions about the nature of this pastrami sandwich will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Extra clues will be strategically disseminated if and when they are required.

Mr Taster

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  1. Langers. Thick slices.

    Next question.

    Now you owe me a pastrami sandwich.

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    1. re: kevin

      It is not from Langer's.

      No meat for you!

      NEXT!

      Mr Taster

      1. re: kevin

        And, you'll notice there's a flat french fry at the back of the plate. Langer's only sells crinkle cut fries.

        (That was your first clue.)

        Mr Taster

        1. re: Mr Taster

          Can I give it another whirl ?

          I say Greenblatts since you asked them to hand slice.

          1. re: Mr Taster

            Damn I didn't read the rules. Haha

        1. Ok so you said photo was taken in LA. county. can we assume it was also taken at the restaurant as opposed to you taking it home and putting it on a plate?

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          1. re: gr8pimpin

            Yes, photo was taken at the restaurant.

            Mr Taster

          2. it's definitely not a Langer's Plate or a Brent's plate…..thinking….I don't recognize those onion rings???? Thinking….

            1. Can I ask if you liked the pastrami and/or sandwich?

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              1. re: TheOffalo

                You may ask :)

                I'll give details once Mr Taster's **NAME THAT PASTRAMI SUPERCHALLENGE™** has concluded.

                Mr Taster

              2. I have a guess..Is it Smoke City Market? Because of the blackened edges.

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                1. re: wienermobile

                  Sorry! Thanks for playing :)

                  Mr Taster

                  1. re: Mr Taster

                    so where was the sandwich from Taster ??????

                2. Guess: Lenny's Deli on Westwood?

                  1. Fellow Chowhounds,

                    When making guesses, please refer to House Rule #3. Please back up your guess with a rationale that logically follows.

                    For example, kevin did a great job guessing Langer's because of the thick slices. (It was wrong, but at least he followed the rules ;)

                    Any guesses without backup will serve only as conversation pieces and not a official guesses. (There's a reason for this, which I'll reveal when this is over.)

                    Mr Taster

                    1. NY Famous Deli in Eagle Rock.

                      1. Still guessing Lenny's deli. I had hand cut pastrami a few months ago and it looked similar as do the rings. Plus the plates are the same.

                        Did I follow the rules? :-)

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                        1. re: gr8pimpin

                          OK, that's a fine guess, but incorrect :)

                          Mr Taster

                          1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                            The tableware does match Factor's and so do the rings...

                             
                            1. re: wienermobile

                              ….But I don't recognize the pastrami...

                              1. re: wienermobile

                                Also, the bread in your pic looks rye-ish, but not like the bread in Mr. T's pic.

                              1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                You win the grand prize, P :) Well done! Let me know when and where you'd like to meet for pastrami :)

                                I almost gave it to weinermobile for matching the plates, but you nailed it by guessing that they've begun to hand cut. (They're also copying Langer's by double toasting and extra-steaming.)

                                See attached photo, which was tacked up at the hostess' podium.

                                As for the pastrami itself, they made a real effort, which I have to salute them for. Their carver needs some lessons (I got several slices which were cut with tough gristle in the middle, so I had to deconstruct my sandwich and eat it with a knife and fork.) Plus, Beaver mustard just isn't right on pastrami. It's got a pungent sweetness (maybe from wine?) that doesn't sit well with me... Gulden's is just fine. But the slabs of meat were quite thick, mostly tender (a few reaching for jerky, though I enjoyed the textural contrast.) Spicing was mild and inoffensive. $10.99 after applying a $3 off coupon, from Factor's email list. Overall, a considerable effort considering how low our collective Chowhoundly expectations of this place have become.

                                Mr Taster

                                 
                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                  Would you go back and order it again? and will they do a Rueben thick hand cut? Thanks for trying one for " Team Pastrami "...

                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                    As far as going back, sure- I'd do it. $11 for that sandwich (coupon price) which includes fries and UNLIMITED FREE PICKLES, thank you non-FUB™ pricing!) was really quite a bargain. (I upsold myself on the onion rings for an extra buck or so). I'd be sure to specify next time to leave off the inedible gristle. That wasn't nice.

                                    And yes, they were very clear that they will use the hand cut, extra steamed pastrami on request for any pastrami sandwich on their menu (and there's no extra charge for it.)

                                    Mr Taster

                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                      i see.

                                      so what was the final joint ??????????

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        mattapoisett guessed it, Factor Deli.

                                        1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                          cool, i must have missed it after all the backwards and forwards gobbely crap, it must have been imbedded in there somewhere.

                                          btw, Taster, did you pick this particular sandwich because it was trying to emulate Langer's ?????????

                                          1. re: kevin

                                            No, I picked this sandwich because a work colleague enjoys this place, and it was his turn to pick the restaurant. I was totally surprised to find that they've begun Langer's-izing their pastrami sandwiches. I had no prior knowledge that this was happening.

                                            Plus, Factor's is so far off the FUB™-media radar (Eater LA, etc.), I figured it could be years before anyone under 60 reports on this place :)

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                              Do you know if Wexler's also hand slices? Thanks.

                                              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                I haven't tried Wexler's pastrami yet. However, my understanding is that they do. I'm sure someone will correct me (gently) if I'm wrong :)

                                                Mr Taster

                                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                                  You haven't try Wexler's ??????????? Yet. ?????????

                                                  I
                                                  Think
                                                  You are
                                                  Seriously in
                                                  Derelection
                                                  Of your
                                                  Houndly
                                                  Duty.

                                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                                        You are correct. If you sit at the right place at the counter you can even watch them do it for your sandwich.

                                      2. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                        Looks like it to me. Mr. T?

                                        Edit: Congrats Mattapoisett in LA. Do people who know you from CH want to call you Matt? I know I do.

                                        1. re: TheOffalo

                                          Years ago, I asked my friend to get P a badge for E3. He had never met P and went off his e-mail. All though the convention he had a badge that read: Matt Apoisett.

                                          --Dommy!

                                          1. re: Dommy

                                            badge for E3 ???????????

                                            what's that ?????????

                                            thanks.

                                    2. It's Petit Trois, isn't it? ;-)

                                      1. Not sure if this meets (meats?) house rules, but is this sandwich only served at the restaurant on a certain day of the week?
                                        ******

                                        Whoops, never mind, didn't see your answer above while I was Googling photos.... ;)

                                        1. how was the bread? looks katz quality to me.

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                                          1. re: ns1

                                            The rye was OK. It didn't have the nice brittle crust like Langer's, but as I said earlier they did steam toast it so it had similar qualities of the crispy edge and tender interior. There were far more caraway seeds in this bread than in Langers' version.

                                            Mr Taster

                                          2. Mr. T -- Just a few blocks east of Factor's and for several dollars less (even without a coupon) you could have gotten a better pastrami sandwich at Label's Table. And if you take advantage of what I think is a current Groupon deal, you and your colleague (or you and me) could split one of their pastrami sandwiches and one of their brisket sandwiches as well. (Yes, I've been to Factor's, though not in awhile.)

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                                            1. re: nosh

                                              After 18 years in this city I've somehow never made it to Label's Table, and for no good reason. So yeah, I'd love to have an excuse to go. Email me offline and we can discuss a sandwich swap. (I didn't find the groupon you're referring to)

                                              Mr Taster

                                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                                  There used to be one in Tarzana. I'd take my grandfather there and he'd always get the corned beef stuffed in a rye end. I loved that so I started doing it with pastrami. You need a good crispy bread for it to work but man that was good.

                                              1. I used to go to Factor's a lot (it was always a pleasure to run into Mel Brooks) but it has been on the decline for the past few years. I hope this signals a turn around...

                                                1. Damn. I arrived at the party too late.

                                                  I was gonna guess Chengdu Taste.

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                                                  1. re: J.L.

                                                    I revise my own late guess to Kokkekoko. It's the white plates that give it away.

                                                    1. re: J.L.

                                                      I was going to go with Stinky Rose.

                                                      Er, I mean Stinking ...

                                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                                      And it states plainly that it's the best on either coast.

                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                        Well, they're certainly entitled to their opinion.

                                                        In any case, it's encouraging to see them making a sincere effort.

                                                        Mr Taster

                                                        1. re: Mr Taster

                                                          you should try Jeff's Gourmet for its "old fashioned pastrami" on the specials board, and see what you think.

                                                          it's pretty close to Langer's style.

                                                          though i've never tried Factor's Langer's-esque style.

                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                            Jeff’s Old Fashioned Pastrami is IMO the top pastrami sandwich in town (yes, even better than Langer’s and the best I’ve had anywhere since Pastrami King closed in Kew Gardens, NYC, decades ago), but they hardly ever have it. Last time it was available, they kept it on the specials board for about two months, but it was at a jaw-dropping $17 bucks a pop. (Well worth it, though.) I spoke to the owner about why it’s not a regular item on the menu given its fairly widespread acclaim, and he told me it was very hard to negotiate for that particular cut of kosher meat at a customer-friendly price.

                                                          2. re: Mr Taster

                                                            But DIScouraging to see they're already resting on their laurels, saying it's the best in the country. Doesn't sound like they're going to try to occupy any of that room for improvement

                                                        2. re: Mr Taster

                                                          srsly?

                                                          FUCK Factor's deli. I remember this bullshit sandwich from when museum of intol first opened. they can slice that shit however they want this year, they can plagiarize Langer's til the rooster crow, but never again.

                                                          cuz of Factor's, I didn't eat another pastrami sandwich for 10+ years. that photo of the handsliced pastrami shows they still can't construct meat-in-between-bread to save their life.

                                                          gdamn tragedy, this place. it's what i imagine D. Sax means when he said delis go to Florida to die.

                                                          NB. if Factor's closes tomorrow, or if that gentleman dies, it'll be on Eater. Otherwise, it doesn't fall within Eater's scope, obvs.

                                                          1. re: TonyC

                                                            >> it doesn't fall within Eater's scope, obvs.

                                                            What is Eater's scope, exactly?

                                                            Mr Taster

                                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                                              The reason I ask, by the way, is because Eater doesn't seem to have a problem pimping shitty pastrami (e.g. Johnny's) when it appears in venues where the customer base is noticeably dissimilar from Factors'.

                                                              Mr Taster

                                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                pimping shitty pastrami (e.g. Johnny's")
                                                                ---
                                                                I literally have no idea what this references. LA Weekly had the last pastrami listicle, not Eater.com

                                                                Doing a quick search on Eater shows Johnnie's being mentioned in 2 listicles in '13. If that's pimping.. I don't even know what to call this:
                                                                http://la.eater.com/archives/2014/07/...

                                                                Perhaps the writer lives close to Johnnies, and likes to eat there after work. Perhaps it's just something he uses to fill up the listicles.

                                                                A quick scroll down entire July's posts will show shitty pastrami (and nondescript deli on Kosher corridor) isn't within Eater's normal coverage.

                                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                                holy SHIEEEe. sorry.

                                                                museum of tol. stupid autocorrect. BlameItOnTheKevin.

                                                                1. re: TonyC

                                                                  No prob and i agree thick slices is a gimmick here. Also not sure I get continued use of TM and name in title for one that says he hates that stuff. Was trying to avoid posting here but...

                                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                                    I wouldn't mind trying this thick sliced pastrami at Factor's. My last pastrami sandwich there was pretty bad, but I still like getting breakfast there and if Olga is still working there I would definitely go (one of the nicest human beings I've ever met and a good waitress too). She used to be at Junior's and I kept hoping Lenny's would hire her back.

                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                      Nice people always make a meal taste better but I've never been a huge believer in the thick cut making a big difference taste wise. Of course not shaved per se but it's the pastrami that does it. With the fatty cuts I like I find regular sliced just fine like the langers take out and often regular at langers. Carnegie my fave. This thick cut is good with good pastrami but I feel it's a gimmick without a big difference. Some folks go for the gimmick. But factors shit pastrami still shit pastrami no matter how u slice it. There's a reason most delis use a meat slicer. That's what I think. And agree with nosh u can do a lot better at labels but it's still a cut below langers Brent's greenblatts