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Petit Trois, No Reservations, No Phone, No Cash & No tipping...

Ludo's Petit Trois opens tomorrow (July 24th) on Highland at Melrose. 21 seats only with full bar. 200 sandwiches a day will be made (also to go) 18% gratuity added to all checks. Dinner menu too. Open late, serves till midnight. No cash, credit cards only. I predict the line will be out the door for many months to come.
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    1. re: JAB

      After I wrote what I wrote, I realized that you may have been asking the same.

      1. it looks dope.

        is there an online menu posted yet ?????????

        thanks man.

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        1. re: kevin

          Careful I hear that they're limiting the number of question marks you can use.

          1. re: kevin

            Welcome back Kevin!
            And, yes, they do charge extra for question marks!

              1. re: J.L.

                well, if it ain't my ol' buddy, jl, what's cracking ??????

                what's new around these parts ????

                do you guys have a few more chow meets already ???????????

            1. 18% gratuity added to the to-go orders too? Don't want to start or get sucked into a do-or-do-not-tip-for-takeout discuss, but I would be a little annoyed... if that's the case.

              1. Won't catch me in that line. Ludo's arrogance is breathtaking

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                1. re: maudies5

                  he does appear to be a little punk ass bitch

                  1. re: maudies5

                    arrogant, perhaps ????s maybe ?????

                    but he sure as heck fire (i'm not sure i like the sounds of that, anyhow) can sell those theatre seats.

                  2. I want to try this place and I think I will like it. Just can't get myself to deal w/ the hassle of waiting and fighting crowds to get a good meal.

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                    1. re: TailbackU

                      There are hundreds of places you can get a good meal without dealing with that hassle.

                    2. So, what happens if you get shit service? Is there some sort of Thunderdome arrangement out back?

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                      1. re: JeMange

                        I guess they expect people to vote with their feet. If the service is bad, people won't come back.

                        Much of the rest of the world don't tip at restaurants and there are still restaurants that provide great service, just as there are still restaurants that provide poor service, without tipping as an incentive.

                        I do like the Thunderdome idea...

                          1. re: TheOffalo

                            Screw service compris, this is 'Murca! I say we go with the Thunderdome option.

                                1. re: JeMange

                                  I thought the "Thunderdome" was where you went if the food didn't agree with your system?

                                  1. re: Servorg

                                    Chengdu taste has some serious plumbing

                              1. First I've heard of a no cash policy outside of an airplane.

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                                1. re: jessejames

                                  Exactly. Maybe they feel they can expedite service if they don't have to make change.

                                  1. re: jessejames

                                    Is no cash legal? Don't bills say 'this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private'?

                                    1. re: babette feasts

                                      Yes, but you don't have to accept cash, which is interesting.

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        Indeed. From the Federal reserve website:

                                        "Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

                                        Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."

                                        This statute means that all United States money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise."

                                        Other sites spelled it out that it seems to be more about the currency used than the form - your dinner bill will be in US dollars rather than Euros or Pesos or something else, but it is OK for the merchant to limit those to electronic dollars rather than physical paper dollars.

                                        Ya learn something every day!

                                  2. So if there's no phone, how does one place a to go order???????? You have to go in and stand around and wait for it??????

                                    And yes, all the q marks as I'm excited to see my buddy is BACK!!!!!!!

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                                    1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                      While you are awaiting your to go order I suppose they are expecting you to order an $18.00 cocktail.

                                      1. re: maudies5

                                        $18 ???

                                        most likely 25 dollar, but i digress as i'm oft to do

                                            1. re: kevin

                                              Cognac. The good shit. 20 p snifter if you're lucky

                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                where do i gets in La besides tiny mec ?????

                                                isn't that what petite means ????

                                                1. re: kevin

                                                  I'd say get a bottle of remy xo at bevmo

                                            2. re: jessejames

                                              JJ, you're a man after my own heart.....! How do you know me so well???? Oh yea, we must've met up before at a Pats game ;))

                                      2. and from the Times:
                                        After weeks of test dinners, Petit Trois will be opening Thursday next to L.A. hot spot Trois Mec, the 24-seat restaurant run by Ludo Lefebvre, Vinny Dotolo and Jon Shook. The three chefs garnered media attention by offering no traditional reservations at Trois Mec; instead, hopeful diners log on to a ticketing system to pre-purchase seats that quickly sell out.

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                                        Angelenos won't have to play restaurant lotto at the new (even smaller) Petit Trois. It’s first come, first served only with 21 bar stools (plus standing room) in the narrow but cozy space, designed by Estée Stanley Designs.

                                        Petit Trois is Lefebvre’s long-awaited love letter to his native France, where chef de cuisine Sydney Hunter (L'Orangerie, LudoBites, Cafe Pinot) will be running the day-to-day operations. Much like Trois Mec, Dotolo and Shook will offer support on the business and operational side.

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                                        Lefebvre said he missed the traditional French bar experience, the neighborhood spot where you stop in regularly to see your friends. Petit Trois is just that, it’s “bar a la carte,” where “one drops by for a plate of food and a cocktail or two.”

                                        Classic checkerboard flooring sets the casual mood. One side of the tiny room features a marble-topped bar with a full view of the lively kitchen. But even if you’re sitting at the narrow bar across the room, or standing with a cocktail, large arched mirrors help keep the room convivial.

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                                        Open Monday through Friday (12:30 p.m. to midnight), the menu of traditional French dishes (no burger here) will evolve and include specials. Two sandwiches will be available for lunch each day, for dining in or to go. Opening sandwiches include Pan-bagnat (tuna) and the humble French favorite jambon-beurre (ham and butter).

                                        Dinner service begins at 5:30 p.m. A few selections include an omelet that oozes Boursin cheese (Lefebvre's favorite as a child). It's the same creamy, spreadable Gournay cheese found at most supermarkets. Mussels marinieres are scented with vadouvan, a French curry spice that the chef mixes in-house. Steak frites come topped with an onion soup sauce, a nod to the classic soupe a l'oignon, which will most likely be on the menu when the weather cools. There’s also steak tartare and a confit chicken leg made with breadcrumbs from brioche dough.

                                        Bar manager Danielle Motor will be offering 10 signature cocktails plus a full bar with beer and wine. And yes, the bar will be open during lunch hours.

                                        After 10 p.m. food service is limited to one thing, and one thing only – the croque monsieur. No twists to the French grilled cheese sandwich, “just a classic croque monsieur like in Paris. We save the twists for Trois Mec,” said Lefebvre.

                                        “You go to Petit Trois for a plate of food and a cocktail, not a long tasting menu or a bunch of small plates – a real dish on a single plate.”

                                        Petit Trois is set to open Thursday with lunch service. No cash. Credit card only.

                                        718 N. Highland Ave, Los Angeles, www.petittrois.com.

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                                        1. re: kevin

                                          “You go to Petit Trois for a plate of food and a cocktail, not a long tasting menu or a bunch of small plates – a real dish on a single plate.”
                                          -----
                                          It is an interesting concept, many times this is exactly what I'm looking for.

                                          Well that, and easy reservations.

                                          1. re: ns1

                                            my bad, i just noticed that's a terrible copy and paste.

                                            1. re: ns1

                                              Concept is great in every Paris neighborhood. The difference is these neighborhood restaurants don't have a celebrity chef armed with a list of rules. I call total B.S.

                                              1. re: maudies5

                                                Could be but at least unlike some spots in paris or Tokyo from my experience at least he bothers to tell us. I'm with you tho on Ludo generally tho had an incredible meal at "raffallos" last year.

                                                1. re: maudies5

                                                  time will tell.

                                                  if i can walk in at 11:30pm on a Tuesday, get a croque and a cocktail and both taste great, I'm not gonna complain.

                                                  assuming the pricing is reasonable...

                                                    1. re: ns1

                                                      You could call ahead at Lucques until 10:30 on weekend nights, earlier week nights
                                                      The Bar Menu is fantastic.
                                                      . Would like to paste that menu but I have never quite figured out copy and paste on my IPad. In any event, take a look at bar menu at www.lucques.com.
                                                      Oh, and they are pleased to accept cash

                                                1. I'm skeptical, but willing to try it. I have no doubt the food will be very good. But there are lots of reasons a great, casual bistro will never take off in LA.

                                                  First, given the celebrity food chef culture, this thing will have multi hour waits out the door. As a threshold matter, that is going to eliminate any cozy, intimate, quick bistro feel he is trying to create.

                                                  Second, I want to see what the price is for a bowl of mussels or confit chicken leg. I don't demand that it be cheap, but I've spent significant time in Paris recently and I want to see how it compares price wise.

                                                  Having said this, we are desperately lacking good bistro food in LA, so I'm willing to give this a shot.

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                                                  1. re: Haeldaur

                                                    I think Republique is a pretty successful take on French bistro food.

                                                    What are the lots of reasons that a great, causal bistro could not succeed in LA?

                                                    1. re: TheOffalo

                                                      Not sure there are major reasons why a great casual bistro cannot succeed, but history shows that they have way more problems succeeding than any Italian restaurants of good quality.
                                                      As to Republique, it is barn-like by Paris standards. Way too large. Yet Le Petit Bistro on La Cienega is still around as is Comme Ca(at least for the moment), among others. We'll see if Marvin survives on Beverly where Pastis and Mimosa and Bistro LQ have all gone within less than ten years as well as Café des Artistas in Hollywood.
                                                      But Mistral survives very nicely in Sherman Oaks, as does its neighbor Le Petit Restaurant.

                                                      1. re: carter

                                                        Though I didn't enjoy my meal there, Meet in Paris in Culver City always seems busy.

                                                        1. re: TheOffalo

                                                          Did you ever eat at Anisette in Santa Monica while it was alive?

                                                            1. re: Servorg

                                                              I miss Anisette. Always got their Croque-madame.

                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                We went 3 or 4 times. Food was good to very good mostly and the vibe was fun if you were in the mood for a "high energy buzz" evening out.

                                                              2. re: Servorg

                                                                Those anisette chocolate croissants were beyond fiendishly orgassssmic.

                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                  Same as found at Maison Giraud now?

                                                                  1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                    It should be virtually identical.

                                                                    Both were giraud as the proprietor, both had the bakery component, which doled out those delicious suckers day in and day out.

                                                                    nuff said.

                                                            2. re: carter

                                                              Though not great, Bistro de la Gare in South Pas is damned good, very casual and very well embedded in its neighborhood. Now that they have a much better chef/owner and have subdued the clamorous interior that the former owner actually liked (!!!) it's great just for a glass of wine and some snails, or one of the variations on the theme of steak frites. No cocktails, dammit, but a nice if smallish wine list.

                                                            3. re: TheOffalo

                                                              It's huge and expensive, I don't consider it to be a casual or neighborhood Bistro place. The food is pretty good though.

                                                          1. Why put up w/ the FOH tyranny when L'Assiette is serving perfectly done steak frites with (really good) compris house baked bread service?

                                                            Free bread in LA with actual seats. Can ya believe it? (I'm not even against mandatory 18% tipping).

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                                                            1. re: TonyC

                                                              But who (k)neads bread with steak/frites?
                                                              Steak and fries are perfect together, with as many glasses of red wine as deemed appropriate.

                                                              And speaking of FOH tyranny, no one has mentioned the demise of Fraiche or L'episerie or any other TP-affiliated bistro!

                                                              1. re: carter

                                                                you need that bread (it can even be super crappy bread) to sop up the residual sauce that you can't just sop up with the fries.

                                                              2. re: TonyC

                                                                Without pate de foie gras i don't really gives a shit for this type of joint....and if there's a legal pate in la that's good lemme know. Crappy steaks cooked in margarine and glorified grilled cheese sandwiches don't do for this hound. Man that foie in a jar at bouchon is missed.

                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                  Bouchon still has their:

                                                                  Terrine de Foie de Volaille (chicken liver mousse in a jar)...served with toasted baguette $15.50

                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                    Cool I'll give it a try. How does it compare the foie?

                                                                    1. re: jessejames

                                                                      Not as rich as the foie but IMHO almost as good. Good enough that I don't miss the foie.

                                                                      1. re: jessejames

                                                                        Papilles has a beautifully done chicken liver mouse, as well as fromage de tete, and a perfect rilette, in their reasonably price charcute plate (with the fantastic Tribeca baguette).

                                                                        The last piece of foie I had in Cali was also at Papilles. Actually had it via take-out, and ate it after the ban took effect.

                                                                        1. re: TonyC

                                                                          Thanks for that tip

                                                                          That's my go to French fare. I love pate toast pieces etc.

                                                                          1. re: TonyC

                                                                            Great call. You can get a 3 course meal at Papilles for less than the price of steak and frites at Petit Trois and have an actual table to eat your food.

                                                                            1. re: TonyC

                                                                              yeah, i remember they were doling that stuff out after the puerile (i just think it's puerile, just my opinion, i really do not want to start a conflagration of sorts, politically, morally, ethically, etc) ban if i remember correctly.

                                                                        1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                          I stopped by at 3:30 and there was a sign on the door "Ran Out of Sandwiches. Will Reopen at 5:30."

                                                                          1. re: lil mikey

                                                                            Weird, so they don't serve non-sandwich food straight through to midnight? Or are they only serving sandwiches on opening day?

                                                                            1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                              They said they would only make 200 sandwiches a day and when those were gone that's it for the day….

                                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                I know but aren't they also serving steak frites and moules and escargots and croque monsieurs/madames?

                                                                                  1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                    Only sandwiches during lunch - 2 varieties at $14-16

                                                                              2. re: lil mikey

                                                                                Sorry. That would be my administrative assistant putting in a "to go" order for 50 sandwiches for the office.

                                                                                Oh wait, I've just been informed we were unable to procure said sandwiches. Great. Now I need to track down the assistant and see what he did with our lunch money.

                                                                            2. Someone I know in restaurant biz questioned the legality of refusing cash as it is Legal Tender.

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                                                                              1. re: maudies5

                                                                                I think you can refuse cash, you're right, but you are allowed to refuse it.

                                                                                For instance, if you are collected rent as ll from a t, you can require other forms of payment instead of cash.

                                                                                But in general, yeah, I've never heard of a restaurant or cafe not accepting cash.

                                                                                Also, the restaurant may be less colorful, interesting, and/or diverse, because still in this day and age, there is a number, though possibly small, that do not have credit cards or cashier's checks or personal checks on hand.

                                                                                Btw, I wonder if they happen to accept checks ?????

                                                                                Probably just the cc's.

                                                                                1. re: maudies5

                                                                                  Will they barter? I have a whole year's supply of Rice-O-Roni, the San Francisco treat, sitting in the pantry...

                                                                                  1. re: J.L.

                                                                                    Yeah. Budddyyyy.

                                                                                    Can I get an Econ 101 ?????????

                                                                                    1. re: J.L.

                                                                                      Which may be the answer to what your assistant did with the lunch money.

                                                                                    1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                      Lol it aint cheap. Really curious to see how this place does.

                                                                                      1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                        $39 for steak frites - filet or what?
                                                                                        Lettuce for how much?
                                                                                        Mussels for how much?
                                                                                        and I only used one question mark for every question.
                                                                                        Your turn, Kevin!

                                                                                        1. re: carter

                                                                                          $29.00 for a chicken leg???????
                                                                                          I don't see hubris listed on the menu, but that's the main ingredient at this place.

                                                                                          1. re: maudies5

                                                                                            So much for a quaint. Bucolic, reasonably priced Parisian-esque bistro.

                                                                                            1. re: maudies5

                                                                                              Here is Lucy Lean's photo of said leg from the LAW. Looks pretty substantial. I guess I've become inured to prices after the whole Bouchon/Farmshop fried chicken prices.

                                                                                               
                                                                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                Good thing I don't live anywhere close to either of them.
                                                                                                Popeye's can still satisfy that periodic jones.
                                                                                                And a Gelson's free-range roasted chicken for $10.99 works just fine, and I don't have to drive far to get it.

                                                                                          2. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                            High cost of entry will keep lines reasonable and the riff raff (aka me) out

                                                                                            Not gonna hate. If I could sell less and make the same amount of money I sure as hell would.

                                                                                            1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                              Those prices are obscene. Casual bistro fare my a@$....

                                                                                              No matter what the tenor of the place is, at those prices, it stops being "casual." That being said, I'm sure there will be plenty of rubes in the area willing to plunk down the cash.

                                                                                              1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                                That'd be $50 OTD for a plate of steak frites with unknown provenance, with no drink. I don't know htf 1 can eat steak frites w/o wine, so make that ~$70 OTD for a s.f. + a glass o vino. Someone pull up the wine list?

                                                                                                Papilles (a truer bistro in both pricing/size/ambience) & L'Assiette render this joint completely pointless.

                                                                                                Let the chef-fuckers have their way with this. We out.

                                                                                                  1. re: TonyC

                                                                                                    Just went to L'Assiette - thought it was decent. But GREAT value though. Still haven't hit up Papilles yet.

                                                                                                  2. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                                    Oh wow, those prices are so not in line with what I was expecting with this concept restaurant. Casual bistro my ass.

                                                                                                    so basically, they are charging full service white tablecloth prices for barstool seats only type of place. ugh so over this Ludo crap.

                                                                                                    1. re: TailbackU

                                                                                                      it makes trois mec seem like a bargain.

                                                                                                      1. re: ns1

                                                                                                        Makes Bouchon even more appealing.

                                                                                                        1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                          Duck confit app there isn't small and is nice. No substitute for the mason jar of foie tho but I'll try the other pate. Good service nice joint. I like bouchon. Oysters and clams too.

                                                                                                          1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                            i usually go to the one in Vegas, hate driving to BH.

                                                                                                            1. re: ns1

                                                                                                              Funny

                                                                                                              I need to keep my hands off the dice for a little while!

                                                                                                              1. re: ns1

                                                                                                                U can at least get real foie there

                                                                                                                  1. re: ns1

                                                                                                                    Indeed. Any time I roll into Vegas, Bouchon is my first stop for some foie and champagne to get things started.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Novelli

                                                                                                                      is it top-loaded in an old fashioned French canning jar ??????

                                                                                                                      thanks man.

                                                                                                      2. I find the prices to be pretty obscene. I have no doubt the food quality will be high--that omelette looks pretty damn great--but im probably passing unless I want a croque monsieur late at night and I'm in the area. The chicken leg for $29 is just outrageous.

                                                                                                        1. I'll chime in since there's a lot of talk about this place already. Long post, but sorry, I don't take pictures.

                                                                                                          Went for lunch - there's 2 sandwiches: 1) Nicoise tuna, or 2) Jambon beurre. That's it. Nice cocktail menu, however, and the usual non-alcoholic options (sodas, badoit).

                                                                                                          Both lunch sandwiches are $14 and about 10" long (the Nicoise is cut in half). Both served in a white paper wrapper and each comes with a single paper napkin. No utensils, no plates.

                                                                                                          Sandwich was tasty - Jambon had some cornichons inside, which was a welcome touch as the sandwich is on the larger side. Baguette had a nice crunch and density, and the proportions were just right. Jambon was good, nothing spectacular, but no complaints here. Generous amount of very good beurre de baratte. Ingredients are of good quality.

                                                                                                          Space is fitting - a narrow hall of sorts w/ stools at the marble bar right in front of the kitchen or stools at the opposite wooden bar (smallish - protrudes about 10" from the wall). Mirrors and decor creates a very casual neighborhood bistro feel, though there's no tables to be seen. Classic Nas playing through the speakers, not quite what you'd expect from a French bistro, but it has the feel of a scene like Bestia. Anyway, the majority of people seemed to be having a very good time.

                                                                                                          You can eat in or take out. If you eat in, there is an automatic 18% service charge added. However, when you pay (by credit card) there is a space for gratuity as well. Some patrons chose to add in a little extra, others seemed to leave that part blank. Regardless, it's basically an automatic 18% at least - the "no tipping" part is a bit misleading...

                                                                                                          With a soda and 1 sandwich (eating in), it's about $23 per person, before you add any extra tip. That's steep for a ham/tuna sandwich and a soda. And you don't even get a plate, just a single paper napkin and paper sandwich wrapper to use as a placemat of sorts.

                                                                                                          The sandwiches are tasty - if this were served at an unheard of deli existing outside of the blogosphere, they would gain notoriety (if they were cheaper). But the sandwiches are by no means exceptional, and nobody should expect them to be, as they're just a ham or tuna sandwich. They're just priced in the wrong quadrant.

                                                                                                          Paninoteca at Scarpetta, while different, is an exceptional value for lunch. I know it's apples and oranges, because Petit Trois serves classic French sandwiches, but Paninoteca for me is leagues better overall (I don't like going to Beverly Hills but the scenery is nicer and you don't have to pay tip!). ink.sack is also a great value if your'e in that part of town.

                                                                                                          I have no doubt that Petit Trois will be popular, thanks in large part this being a new outpost by a beloved celebrity chef and us being in the whole Eater-list age. I think it's very likely that dinner fare will be delicious and well-executed classic French bistro food. I like the concept of a casual neighborhood bistro but this one feels a touch gimmicky. It's making a big splash in the news because of the internet culture, but this is not a place where the food does all the talking, not at these prices. $39 steak frites (+ mandatory 18% mind you) and a drink, that's not casual in price, even if the atmosphere and experience are intended to be casual. Also, if it were truly a casual bistro, there would likely be a diverse range of casual comfort dishes. All of the "policies" seem forced and slightly gimmicky (seriously, why no phone; and why announce a limit on the sandwiches, as if to create hype?), though well-calculated from a marketing perspective.

                                                                                                          Sorry to sound all bitter, but I'm by no means a cheapskate. I have no problems spending a good amount of money when there's good value. I think Saison in SF is one of the best values around, given the astounding quality of the food and the cost per dish. A place like Saison or Aubergine does not have a huge profit margin - calculate the cost of ingredients and the price per course. And I don't mind tipping even 25% if the service is very good. Service at Petit Trois was pleasant and efficient (the sandwiches came out in literally 2 minutes) - but when you're paying 18% to sit at a stool with no silverware, no plates, and simply a paper wrapper and a single paper napkin, it feels a touch funny; it's essentially eating takeout at their stools, but paying gratuity (and then there's space to add gratuity too...).

                                                                                                          I consider myself unbiased here - I find that Ludo was a real talent at Basitde, but I don't care at all for Animal / Son of a Gun. I do hope all ethical businesses to do well and prosper, but I think a few changes here and there will help them in the long run (perhaps rethinking how customers will perceive the prices as they reflect on the restaurant's business model...i.e. pricing it in the right quadrant). Not that they need it, given Ludo's popularity, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to win over those who may be skeptical.

                                                                                                          Bottom line: sandwiches are good, as expected, but "casual bistro" definitely feels like a marketing strategy instead of a genuine concept.

                                                                                                          (Going to try Monsieur Benjamin in SF next.)

                                                                                                          Best,
                                                                                                          Ambrose

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                                                                                                          1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                            thanks for the detailed review, how long did you wait?

                                                                                                            btw, Langer's sandwich + drink + tip = $20, so it seems Petit Trois is a mere $3 markup beyond Langers.

                                                                                                            I was actually expecting way more than $14.

                                                                                                            1. re: ns1

                                                                                                              Sure thing. I didn't have to wait. It was busy but there's room for a couple - went right around opening and there was no queue.

                                                                                                              I see, fair enough about Langer's. I guess it partly comes down to expectations - $23 for what essentially amounts to takeout (just sitting on a stool and being out in maybe 20 minutes) feels steep, but had there been a plate, utensils, table service, etc. it would feel a bit more justified. Still, that doesn't really reflect on the food, which itself is good for a sandwich. I may return to Petit Trois for dinner, but not likely anytime soon - the prices still feel confused to me.

                                                                                                              For me, Paninoteca is the current runaway winner for a delicious sandwich on the go.

                                                                                                              1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                appreciate the report back, the line isn't so long and the sandwich prices (lunch time, after 10pm) are reasonable to me.

                                                                                                                If I drink water that's $16.52 out the door.

                                                                                                                1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                  I prefer the sandwiches to go on the other side of the park at Bouchon Bakery. I prefer their tuna to that of Paninoteca. Also, their veggie sandwich with Fresh Mozzarella and peppers is great. Moreover, the servers are so nice. I live in Brentwood. There has to be a damn good reason for me to go to Hollywood for a tuna or ham sandwich. Pizzeria Mozza was worth traveling to. Not a chance in hell I'll travel to Petit Trois.
                                                                                                                  I do have tickets to the Alex Loves Lemonade Stand event where All three chefs are on board. Good opportunity to taste some of their food and contribute to childhood cancer research. Venue has moved to UCLA. $195.00 pp. Wonderful event.

                                                                                                                  1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                    damn, 195 bones ????? that's super pricey, but at least it's going to charity.

                                                                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                        Kevin, did you check out the list of chefs?
                                                                                                                        $195.00 is a lot less than some would pay for sushi. Yes??????
                                                                                                                        http://www.alexslemonade.org/campaign...

                                                                                                                        1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                          yeah, i just quickly noticed all those chefs and pitched a tent, tmi,

                                                                                                                          sorry.

                                                                                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                            "Pitched a tent?" Not sure what that means. Does it mean you bought a ticket? Never mind. I get it.

                                                                                                                            1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                              My bad. Maudie's. I just got stupendously excited after skimming the chefs list.

                                                                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                90....89.....88.....87............

                                                                                                                2. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                  Thank you for your 1st hand report.

                                                                                                                  1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                    Those burgers at The Apple Pan are served exactly the same way :)

                                                                                                                    1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                      That review was really well thought out. Thanks!

                                                                                                                      1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                        FWIW, Ludo has nothing to do w/ Animal/SoaG's food. Animal boys bought into Ludo's enterprise cuz the star chef didnt wanna fund his own shiz (large question mark; pure speculation/heresy/fact of the matter/basically true).

                                                                                                                        Tl:dr, how much did you drop for a couple of sandwiches, service compris. For shiz n giggles...

                                                                                                                        1. re: TonyC

                                                                                                                          Went last night because I couldn't decide what to eat and live 15 mins away now. Steak tartar w/ fries, salad, toasted bread was quite good and for the price thought it was fair (in comparison to Republique and Church and State). With a beer, tax, and service charge 18% I was OOTD at $38.

                                                                                                                          Yeah still not cheap but did leave full.

                                                                                                                          1. re: Johnny L

                                                                                                                            Thanks for sharing, and I'll just say that I don't agree with one thing you wrote. $38 per person with a full meal, beer, tax and tip out the door is cheap these days! Kidding, if only just a little.

                                                                                                                            1. re: Johnny L

                                                                                                                              and you got it ????? it wasn't super packed ??????

                                                                                                                              what time ???????

                                                                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                nah its was actually pretty empty with Ludo looking like he had nothing to do but be the pretty face of his small empire but when I left around 9:30pm it started to pick up for sure.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Johnny L

                                                                                                                                    well that's priceless right there. in4tartar.

                                                                                                                            2. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                              I had the jambon beurre sandwich to-go today and I concur with your assessment. Top notch ingredients and tasty, but not game changing. I get a little bit of the "oooh-ahhs" when I taste a Godmother from Bay Cities, a pork belly bahn mi from Mendocino, a number-whatever-it-is from Langer's, or that fried chicken sandwich from Son of a Gun. This one - not so much. Cute joint, though.

                                                                                                                              1. re: markambrose73

                                                                                                                                Your review was great! Well detailed and thought out! Thanks.
                                                                                                                                Agreed with everything but...

                                                                                                                                "thanks in large part this being a new outpost by a beloved celebrity chef"

                                                                                                                                He is somewhat admired and even popular, but hardly beloved.
                                                                                                                                ...and WHAT is with these so called 'recommendations' that are now at the bottom of every thread? They are irrelevant, even to someone like me who thinks of food, restaurants and creating interesting meals just about ALL THE TIME.
                                                                                                                                (donut muffin recipes?????????????)

                                                                                                                                1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                                                                                  "...and WHAT is with these so called 'recommendations' that are now at the bottom of every thread? They are irrelevant, even to someone like me who thinks of food, restaurants and creating interesting meals just about ALL THE TIME."

                                                                                                                                  They are the price of a free CH site (paid ad's) for those who are thinking about "food, restaurants and creating interesting meals just about ALL THE TIME".

                                                                                                                              2. KevinEats' review: http://www.kevineats.com/2014/07/peti...

                                                                                                                                Looks like Johnny L's choice of steak tartare is probably the "deal". Can't believe steak frites is twice the price. The Panache beer/sparkling lemonade sounds interesting. If I get that at $7 and tartare at $19, with tax and service charge that's $33...

                                                                                                                                3 Replies
                                                                                                                                1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                                                                  I'm one of the most price-insensitive people I know, but I staunchly refuse to pay $39 for that Steak Frites. That's just laughable, and it looks like a fucking mess, too.

                                                                                                                                  But I've not slurped the Ludo Kool-Aid. After trying several of his Ludo Bites, as well as eating his cuisine at other food events, I just think he's a lot more Krissy than Ludo - i.e. more sizzle than steak.

                                                                                                                                  I will give Trois Mec a try at some point, I guess, but I'm not in a rush.

                                                                                                                                  Lastly, that Millefeuille looks yawn-inducing. Nothing like the one at Genin (pic) in 15er. And that Tarte Citron was life changing.

                                                                                                                                  But I digress ...

                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                  1. re: a213b

                                                                                                                                    Jacques's pastries are incredible (and that mille feuille!). But we can't expect any new bistro in LA to have pastries on par with one of Paris's best patisseries.

                                                                                                                                    Anyway, I'm the same way. I don't mind paying $600+p/p at Meadowood, but I will feel really jipped to pay $39 for steak frites at a counter place that won't give you a plate during lunch.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: a213b

                                                                                                                                      Oh, that picture made me cry!! Love Genin and his amazing Millefeuille. His caramels were pretty good also. Look like you had the amazing hot chocolate. Oh, how much I miss and talk about that place!

                                                                                                                                  2. kevineats really liked it, great pics on his blog. They priced me the fuck outta dinner service though.

                                                                                                                                    http://www.kevineats.com/2014/07/peti...

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                                                                        I wish I could <heart> this for being the most vague response of the day!

                                                                                                                                        1. re: ns1

                                                                                                                                          Are you a member of the anti-heart movement?

                                                                                                                                          1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                                                                                            No, quite the opposite actually.

                                                                                                                                      2. re: ns1

                                                                                                                                        Kevineats likes everything. He's too easily impressed.