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Worst Cooking show Buzzwords

In the spirit of the cooking show pet peeves thread-

"You on a plate"

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    1. cooking from the heart
      cooked to perfection
      balance of textures
      depth of flavor

        1. Eating with your eyes! Stop telling me that I eat with my eyes, because I do not.
          Ugh, I hate that one.

          As far as I know, the eyes are not part of the alimentary system.

              1. Twist. "This is my meatloaf with a twist."

                To save several thousand posts can we stipulate anything that comes out of Guy Fieri's mouth?

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                    1. re: RC51Mike

                      I was just getting ready to post the Fieri suggestion.

                      1. re: RC51Mike

                        I find it almost laughable how quickly any post on Food Media can deteriorate into Fieri bashing.

                        1. re: jmckee

                          I don't see what's so tiresome about Guy's talk. In fact I can't recall a single phrase that he repeats. But, I'll have to admit that I rarely watch his shows. At most I watch one or two segments of DDD if the listing sounds interesting.

                          I'm not surprised that he reuses expressions a lot, given the hundreds of DDD episodes. How many times has he had to be enthusiastic about a chef's special burger? If you tire of Guy, you probably are watching too many reruns of DDD.

                          1. re: paulj

                            In his old cooking show -during the few bits I watched he always said: " Now let's put that bad boy in the oven." As a matter of fact, that constantly repeated phrase was initially my main reason for never watching his show again.

                            1. re: RUK

                              Quips like that are far less annoying than preachy things - use organic, use real, I never use instant, etc.

                              Quips are like the intro and theme song. It's easy to tune them out. Preachy things are more like commercials. They quickly wear out their welcome.

                              On Iron Chef America, new or reruns, I usually mute the scoring explanation. Nothing objectionable about it, except I've heard it too many times.

                              For that matter I often watch FN (and other cable) shows with mute and closed caption. It's easier to split my attention, ignoring the tv most of the time, paying attention when something interesting is happening or being said.

                            2. re: paulj

                              How about "You could put that on a flip flop!"......But then, I watch it a LOT!

                          1. re: sparky403

                            unc·tu·ous [uhngk-choo-uhs] Show IPA
                            adjective
                            1.
                            characterized by excessive piousness or moralistic fervor, especially in an affected manner; excessively smooth, suave, or smug.
                            2.
                            of the nature of or characteristic of an unguent or ointment; oily; greasy.
                            3.
                            having an oily or soapy feel, as certain minerals.

                            Add- "toothsome" when a contestant tries to explain why their food is "al dente", or put more simply, undercooked.

                            1. re: monavano

                              aww now I can kind of like the accepted definition of 'unctuous'. OK maybe 'like' is too strong but it's handier than as is used in food criticism.

                            2. re: sparky403

                              I'm kind of with you. I learned this word in high school, during a vocabulary test, and it was NOT a positive word. "Greasy" or "unduly suave."

                            3. Flavour profiles
                              Next level
                              A riff on...
                              Deconstructed
                              Fusion - that word, it doesn't mean what you think it means.

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                              1. re: ultimatepotato

                                Re: "Flavor profile":

                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/897745

                                I don't watch these types of shows, but I'll add my own despised "foodie" buzzwords to the list.

                                - Artisinal (it's the 2000s equivalent of the 1990s buzzword "gourmet"- both used so excessively by marketing types that they've become meaningless)

                                - "Revelatory" (the lazy food writer's equivalent to the lazy travel writer's "XXX is city of contrasts."

                                - "Price point". Just "price" is fine.

                                Mr Taster

                                1. "Bring [ingredient] to the party." I love Good Eats, but AB used that phrase way too much.

                                  1. It tastes creamy. Creamy is a texture, not a flavor.
                                    Traditional but "I turn up the volume" or "with a twist"
                                    Anything that comes out of Fieri's mouth after his first bite.

                                    1. I just saw a commercial for Rachael vs. Guy Kids Cook Off and one 12-year old (or so) contestant says, "farm to table is how I roll".

                                      Not sure what I think about that.

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                                      1. re: monavano

                                        That's a kid who is in tune with the zeitgeist.

                                          1. re: wincountrygirl

                                            would I be correctly transilating this as a certain female FN star over prouncing EVERYTHING?

                                            If so it goes to the top of list...

                                          2. pairing - did ya really think bananas & anchovies "paired" well together??

                                            flavor profiles

                                            deconstructed - this pile is noodles, this pile is mozz/ricotta, that's a puddle of bechamel, that's bowl of tomato sauce.. of COURSE, it's lasagna!

                                            unctuous - of course, I want oily/greasy food!

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                                            1. re: kseiverd

                                              From context, it seems like many people think unctuous=luscious.

                                              1. re: monavano

                                                I've thought about that, too. Or maybe voluptuous? Or sensuous? Not really right, either, but closer to the intended mark. I've apparently spent way too much time being annoyed by this.

                                                1. re: monavano

                                                  I think that is 'literally' on the cusp of having its accepted meaning change. See, also, "cute" and "awful"

                                                  1. re: NattyP

                                                    I've seen more complaints about 'sammie' on threads like this, than I've heard it used on FN. Guess I'm drawn to these complaint threads like a moth to a flame.

                                                  2. re: alliegator

                                                    I'm over Sammie and EVOO. I'm over all Rachel talk.

                                                    1. re: alliegator

                                                      It drives me bonkers, along with 'delish' and all the other Rayisms.

                                                      But she has taught a ton of people how to feed themselves food that didn't come through a window or out of a pizza box.

                                                      And for that, I give her a lot of slack.

                                                      1. re: alliegator

                                                        I cringe too.

                                                        I also cringe when I hear folks say "sherbert." There's no extra "r" in sherbet!

                                                        Anything that comes out of RayRay's mouth.

                                                        1. re: breadchick

                                                          I just can't drop that second "r", dammit!
                                                          Old habits die hard.

                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                            Go ahead keep that second 'r'! Clear communication with your friends and audience is more important that obeying spelling rules and worrying that some persnickety observer might cringe.

                                                            1. re: paulj

                                                              Oh, waah, paulj. I'm sure there's plenty of words that drive folks batty (check out this thread here.) ;)

                                                              1. re: breadchick

                                                                At least I pronounce the second "a" in caramel ;-)

                                                                1. re: monavano

                                                                  What, you don't eat car-mole? It sounds like a critter that hides in your car!

                                                            2. re: breadchick

                                                              Merriam-Webster acknowledges the second 'r' as a variant:

                                                              http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio...

                                                              and dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/brows...

                                                              Sorry -- it drives me nuts, too, but we're apparently fighting a losing battle.

                                                          2. I wish I could count the number of times "passion" pops up. Every contestant has to proclaim it, every judge has to demand it. Interest, love, skill, who cares: as long as the robotic contestant mouths her or his "passion".

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                                                              1. re: coney with everything

                                                                Yes, love it! I'm tired of all the passion and wanting. Passion/love/desire but it doesn't get it done without skill and drive.

                                                                AB: I'm not sure what it is in American culture that gives everyone the idea that if they simply convince you they want something badly, you'll give it to them. And every year, the first thing they'll start talking about passion. I don't care about your passion. I care about you making me feel passion. Everybody's got passion, everybody loves food, everybody loves people. OK? I don't care. Yet they do it every year. People tell you, "I want this so badly." Yes, good. Now do something to deserve it.

                                                                1. re: babette feasts

                                                                  I don't think he's talk about using 'passion' in the cooking demo or food sales pitch.

                                                                  Rather he's talking about contestants who try to sell themselves with phrases like 'I really want to win this contest', 'My lifelong passion is to become a TV star', 'I deserve to win because I'm passionate about food'.

                                                                  However, later in the interview he says:

                                                                  "Star Talk: What's something finalists should not do while they're being judged?

                                                                  AB: This is based on my own personal pet peeves.... I do not want to hear the word "delicious" ... I am also sick and tired of the word "passion." ... "What we have for you today ...." We. ..."

                                                                  Read more at: http://blog.foodnetwork.com/star-talk...

                                                                  1. re: babette feasts

                                                                    Mostly I agree with this - except that far and way the worst, worst, worst offender in terms of defining "passion" as the most important quality bar none that defines a chef or a cook - is Gordon Ramsay. Every single place he EVER visited on Kitchen Nightmares, both the UK and US versions - his instant diagnosis of the problems always included SOMEBODY having "lost their passion" for restauranteuring - the owner, the chef, the waitstaff.

                                                                    1. re: babette feasts

                                                                      I like that! Good for Alton! it is also similar to "I am not ready to go home" well step up and maybe you wont

                                                                2. Calling absolutely everything as "COMFORT FOOD"

                                                                  If I were king for a day, I would pass a law (under penalty of death of course) that only: Soup, Stew, Meat Loaf, Mac & Cheese - and Pho could be considered "comfort food".

                                                                  I am sorry, but scallops with citrus foam, caviar and Micro Cilantro is NOT comfort food!!

                                                                  1. "this will send it OVER THE TOP"

                                                                    1. I have to bring my "A-Game"!
                                                                      Geee and I figured you wouldn't try at all to do a decent job! @-@

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                                                                        1. re: sparky403

                                                                          Thank you, thank you, thank you. I needed that laugh!!

                                                                      1. "Elements" the new word for ingredients, every contestant in Masterchef Australia is panicking over cooking each element correctly and getting all the elements on the plate so that all the elements balance each other perfectly. Every sentence uttered by them includes the word.

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                                                                        1. re: PhilD

                                                                          That's new to me. Something to look forward to! I'd add "product" and "component."

                                                                        2. "Build" as in "Build a sauce." You don't build a sauce, you make a sauce!

                                                                          "Source" used as a verb. Can't you just say "buy", or "obtain," if you're trying to be impressive?

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                                                                          1. re: archstreet

                                                                            The other day I heard an Alaska Airlines ad that talked about 'locally sourced food'. That's not the same saying that they bought the ingredients from the Seattle Sysco or Costco store. It implies some effort to ensure that the ingredients were grown or produced in the region.

                                                                            1. re: paulj

                                                                              I know, but one could say, "These come from a farm in the next town over," or, "I purchased these from a great local source."

                                                                              1. re: archstreet

                                                                                And that's better? Quite often in English the same word is used both as a noun and as a verb.

                                                                              2. re: paulj

                                                                                I imagine it would be difficult for an airline to define "local" as they are in the business of moving people to far distant locations.

                                                                              1. Yum-o, food porn, and who the hell would ever say tablescape.

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                                                                                1. "You on a plate"

                                                                                  I sometimes suspect Herod and Salome are members of the judging panel.

                                                                                        1. re: kpaxonite

                                                                                          Judges are always referring to what is happening on their palate. It is offended, it is overwhelmed, etc.

                                                                                        1. re: madeliner

                                                                                          but that's strictly by invitation only - the Favor of an RSVP is Most Welcome. (ahem).

                                                                                          1. “Mouthfeel”, particularly when said by, the surly and arrogant, Joe Bastianich.

                                                                                              1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                no, but Alton Brown's frequent and audible bladder voidance does. as Alex Guarnaschelli's eyerolls do - good lord you can hear them clank around in her sockets (I sorta hope she sees this and asks "OMG! do they? why didn't anybody say anything or take it out in post-production?!")

                                                                                                1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                  I love his sigh!
                                                                                                  He puts just the right sorrowful tone into it when he says, "you've been chopped".

                                                                                                  1. Watching the deadeningly scripted "banter" on any of the FN contest shows, I'm tempted to paraphrase Mary McCarthy's comment on Lillian Hellman: Everything these FN celebs say is fake, including "and" and "the."

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                                                                                                    1. re: bob96

                                                                                                      but Lillian Hellman scrupulously never used either one of those words. she was quite adept in her avoidance.

                                                                                                    2. In Europe, the term " Profi " has come to mean anything marketable.

                                                                                                        1. OK, might get flamed for this, but "samwich" drives me a bit nutty.
                                                                                                          There's no "m" in sandwich!
                                                                                                          Say "sand".
                                                                                                          Say "wich".

                                                                                                          Now, say sandwich!

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                                                                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                                                                            oh, then don't come to Florida -- because of the enormous Spanish-speaking influence here, it's frequently a sangwich or a sangwiche (I don't mind, because it usually means it's going to be a pretty bad-ass Cuban sandwich if they say it that way)

                                                                                                          2. "Fresh fish smells like the sea" - it's such an over-employed over-simplification and people seem to be taking it literally.

                                                                                                            "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you . . . ." - OK, kudos to old Artie Doyle, it was indeed a very sound turn of phrase. Nevertheless, after all these years, why does every visited chef have to work it into their interview?

                                                                                                            I'm sure there're others, but I'm not really giving this a hundred and ten percent - just kinda phoning it in . . . .

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                                                                                                            1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                              but fresh fish *is* supposed to smell clean and salty -- not like ammonia, not like rotting flesh, and certainly not like bleach!

                                                                                                              I do recognize that not everyone has smelled the sea...and that freshwater fish don't smell of saltwater....

                                                                                                              1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                "[B]ut fresh fish *is* supposed to smell clean and salty -- not like ammonia, not like rotting flesh, and certainly not like bleach!"

                                                                                                                See. That wasn't hard, was it.

                                                                                                                1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                  there isn't always that much space -- in the ad, on the label, in the banner, whatever.

                                                                                                                  Verbosity is not a good quality.

                                                                                                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                    Not sure what that has to do with over used TV cliches and buzzwords. You provided an efficient, much more accurate way of expressing the notion in under twenty words. It would seem the celebrity chefs would be better off with that approach as well. As it is now, it's like they're all sticking to the same "talking points".

                                                                                                                    1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                      like on broadcast TV, the realm of buzzwords and sound bites, they're going to repeat a small paragraph instead of a few words.

                                                                                                                      N.F.L.

                                                                                                              2. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                MGZ, I'm giving you one thousand points for saying "there're others" rather than "there's others" - !!!

                                                                                                                1. re: sandylc

                                                                                                                  How many do I need to win a giant, stuffed animal? (Sorta have my eye on the pink elephant. . . .)

                                                                                                              3. David Lebovitz linked to this article and it made me think of this discussion.

                                                                                                                http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...

                                                                                                                1. "made with Love" or "you can taste the love"

                                                                                                                  1. I'm waiting for "well yummy yummy yummy someone just put love in my tummy!"

                                                                                                                    or has it been done?

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                                                                                                                      1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                                        and then her hair inadvertently de-oculated someone and/or Billy Idol admitted she's his child by Lydia Lunch.

                                                                                                                        you realize of course Catherine O'Hara is going to play Anne in the movie.

                                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmOuqO...
                                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwlPI9...

                                                                                                                    1. "I'm giving it 110%" or "you need to give this 110%"

                                                                                                                      Not possible…

                                                                                                                      1. "To die for." I like eating food - I'm not sure I'm willing to die for it...

                                                                                                                        1. flavor profile

                                                                                                                          “source” as a verb

                                                                                                                          tablescape

                                                                                                                          umami

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                                                                                                                          1. re: Jay F

                                                                                                                            it does start sounding like an episode of "Criminal Minds" at some point. and in a way I suppose it is.

                                                                                                                          2. Ok, Here's one that's used in every freakin decorating show and article, plus to describe what somebody's special ingredient does:

                                                                                                                            It makes the________pop.

                                                                                                                            (take your pick: room, walls, flavors)

                                                                                                                            Pop. We have caused the extinction of at least half a dozen words by the misuse of that one word.

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                                                                                                                            1. re: kitchengardengal

                                                                                                                              I like to add salt to a dish until the flavors 'pop'. I think of it as a jump in flavor, from bland to just right.

                                                                                                                              1. re: kitchengardengal

                                                                                                                                I don't mind "pop" because I think I get it- it's the amount of "X" needed to make a difference and set something off.
                                                                                                                                Like salt, vinegar, heat etc.

                                                                                                                                1. "Bright" or "clean" taste.

                                                                                                                                  1. Foodie.
                                                                                                                                    Why would anyone infantilize gluttony?

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: chilihead

                                                                                                                                      I don't find foodie has anything to do with gluttony.
                                                                                                                                      In fact, it's on the opposite end of the spectrum, with great appreciation for this thing that nourishes our bodies and so, so much more.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: chilihead

                                                                                                                                        I, for one, eat more slowly and carefully the better the food is. When there is great flavor, fiber, and nutrition in a meal, people tend to not overeat because it is more satisfying.

                                                                                                                                      2. I want to add "protein"... it's meat, whether chicken, fish, beef, pork or any other formerly living animal that you're gonna cook and eat.

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: kseiverd

                                                                                                                                          except it's also extended to cover tofu, tempeh, etc. - vegans don't get off that easy - TV has found a way to be banal and vapid about that too!

                                                                                                                                          1. re: hill food

                                                                                                                                            Is TV really to blame for using 'protein' to cover meats and vegetarian substitutes?

                                                                                                                                          2. re: kseiverd

                                                                                                                                            Good point Kseiverd -

                                                                                                                                            " Protein. "

                                                                                                                                            In November, 2013, we took my son out to a restaurant in Torrance, California, after shopping at 2 nearby Asian markets.

                                                                                                                                            The server asked " What type of protein do you want ? " I wasn't sure of what I had just heard, given the street traffic adjacent ( " Sorry ? "), and was informed:

                                                                                                                                            " Protein. You know like meat, or chicken. "

                                                                                                                                            Further, we were informed without asking by this server " I don't eat meat. " Was that subtle signal not to order anything with meat, .... Sorry, ... with Protein ?

                                                                                                                                            Apparently this is considered fashionably trendy, and as the food was OK, we all felt a little embarrassed, but had no more questions.

                                                                                                                                            But images of " Soylent Green " were running through my head for some reason. I sincerely hope using code words like this doesn't spread. Dining out should not be considered a laboratory experiment.

                                                                                                                                            " Hi. I'm Brie, your server. What type of ETOH2 will you be ingesting tonight ? "

                                                                                                                                            1. re: kseiverd

                                                                                                                                              Your use of meat to mean any formerly living animal is only one possible use, and not necessarily the most common one.

                                                                                                                                              A lot of cookbooks have separate chapters for
                                                                                                                                              meat
                                                                                                                                              poultry
                                                                                                                                              fish
                                                                                                                                              seafood
                                                                                                                                              game

                                                                                                                                              Traditional Christian fasting rules (Catholic, Orthodox) distinguished between meat, fish, and shellfish.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: paulj

                                                                                                                                                True, Paulj.

                                                                                                                                                You are absolutely correct.

                                                                                                                                                And the cookbooks mentioned explain the subjects in detail in those chapters, which the server was not doing.

                                                                                                                                                One term Protein fits all, if you will.

                                                                                                                                                Your point on distinguishing between each item, mirrors my comment. A professional, helpful server should take the time to state that, and explain what is available and why it might be a good selection.

                                                                                                                                                Bread for example, is another source of protein. I doubt if the server meant that as a choice too.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: SWISSAIRE

                                                                                                                                                  Some dishes highlight the meat - steak, roast chicken, chops. But there also dishes where it is interchangeable.

                                                                                                                                                  A taco shop or truck gives you a choice of various 'meats' on their tacos, burritos and tortas.

                                                                                                                                                  Chinese fried rice and noodle dishes come in various 'flavors', beef, port, chicken, shrimp. Same for 'curries'. Some places list each of those separately, or each in their own section. Others have taken to making the 'meat' an option. Especially when the choice is broadened to include vegetarian options like tofu, tempeh, mushroom and gluten, it is tempting to use a term that encompasses them all. (not that a portabello is high in protein, but it does have meaty texture and umami).

                                                                                                                                                  Whether I use the term or not, I often plan a meal around a triumvirate of protein, starch, and vegetable.

                                                                                                                                                  What if a server asks what 'starch' you want with your steak? OK, they probably will ask what 'sides', or 'do you want fries, mashed, or pilaf with that'.

                                                                                                                                                  We are all tempted to use short names in place of long lists. Obviously that only works if both speaker and listener are familiar with the substitution.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: paulj

                                                                                                                                                    [What if a server asks what 'starch' you want with your steak? OK, they probably will ask what 'sides', or 'do you want fries, mashed, or pilaf with that'.]

                                                                                                                                                    Well, yes, paulj, that's the very thing...the server doesn't ask "What kind of carbohydrate would you like with that protein?"
                                                                                                                                                    or
                                                                                                                                                    "Would you like carbs with that?"

                                                                                                                                                    It's okay to be a bit more specific, and Kris in B, I liked it better that you didn't just say "proteins" on the thread you linked to. Meat is a word for animal based food (usually). Protein is an organic compound, not necessarily food.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: kitchengardengal

                                                                                                                                                      Seems to me that "protein" is a kitchen-tech-shorthand term (where it serves a role) that migrated to the front of the house. Customers/diners are not, however, line cooks or sous-chefs.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: bob96

                                                                                                                                                        Seems weird the kitchen would use that term - wouldn't they need to be precise "pass the protein for the stir fry" is not going to be as accurate as "pass the prawns".

                                                                                                                                                        I think its more likely its hipster false jargon.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: PhilD

                                                                                                                                                          For what it's worth, I've only heard it on shows or read about it when cooks talk in general terms about the makeup of dishes--I doubt a line order would ask for a "protein." I'm not sure it's fake or hipster or jargon, but invite others to comment.

                                                                                                                                              2. re: kseiverd

                                                                                                                                                See here, where I tried not to say "proteins" and it was just... awkward.

                                                                                                                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9834...

                                                                                                                                              3. I hate hearing "I *am* celiac."

                                                                                                                                                No, you may *have* celiac sprue disease, or celiac intolerance, but you *are* you. You *are not* a disease.

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                                                                                                                                                1. re: Jay F

                                                                                                                                                  Is "celiac intolerance" a dislike of people with celiac disease?

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: PhilD

                                                                                                                                                    My niece was visiting with her friends, and we took them up to a small chalet we have. Rather than cook at that late hour, some Pizza's were ordered locally.

                                                                                                                                                    " Oh, do they have gluten-frei ? "

                                                                                                                                                    I didn't know so we checked. While the owner of the Pizzeria mulled the request, I asked " I didn't know: Are you gluten-intolerant ? "

                                                                                                                                                    " No, but it just seems like a good idea: Everyone is doing it in the US. "

                                                                                                                                                2. Flavor profile

                                                                                                                                                  Protein .. (its meat fish chicken poultry duck its not a flippin chemical molecule... )

                                                                                                                                                  1. Oh and this is not technically speaking a buzzword but if tv chefs could stop pretending to be Oprah and breaking into a fake falsetto to describe how their dish is going to turn out that would be AW-Summmmm!

                                                                                                                                                    I mean even Bobby Flay has done it. Come on, Bobby.

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                                                                        I thought that was Neil Patrick Harris's tagline as Barney Stinson on How I Met Your Mother...no?

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                          It could be. I didn't watch much of that show.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                            That would be -- wait for it -- "wait for it."

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                                                                            Don't make me break out the amazeballs.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: MplsM ary

                                                                                                                                                              oh lord "amazeballs" was the worst movie Mel Brooks ever made.

                                                                                                                                                          3. "....to it", as in "it has a nice flavor to it". What's wrong with "it has a nice flavor"?

                                                                                                                                                            And what's with "you have in front of you today....", or "I've prepared for you today....".

                                                                                                                                                            Did someone already say "blew out my palate"?

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                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                                                                                                                              You forget that the unemployed English majors are all waiting tables. The chefs and competitors on Chopped and Cutthroat don't have the advantage of a fine liberal arts education. They learned their cooking skills apprenticing in the kitchen or at some Culinary Institute.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                                                                                                                                Yeah, I'd prefer "this is" or "I made". Why all those extra words?

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: DGresh

                                                                                                                                                                  Redundant language will find no purchase here!

                                                                                                                                                                2. re: Shrinkrap

                                                                                                                                                                  "What I have prepared for you today..." from show contestants is
                                                                                                                                                                  Such
                                                                                                                                                                  A
                                                                                                                                                                  Suck
                                                                                                                                                                  Up!

                                                                                                                                                                  Why don't you just bl*w the judge and get it over with!

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                    I just thought the producers told the contestants on Chopped to lead with that. It's the silly verbal padding that so many people do--use 10 words when 3 would suffice. Now I'm sufficed here.

                                                                                                                                                                3. Heard it once and it's already on my list: "negative space". In regards to leaving a large portion of the plate empty and dotting it with fruit or sauce.

                                                                                                                                                                  Negative space, as an art term, only applies if the background is made as important as the foreground. It's not. It's still a plate. It's not suddenly edible. It's empty space, or open space, but not elevated by the tiny bits of food in any way.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                                                                                    I've heard the term white space to describe an under seasoned part of food that was otherwise seasoned well.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. Every time I would hear Carla from The Chew scream out "That's my jaaammm!!" or her and Clinton do that stupid "Extra value Friiidaaayyy!!" crap, I wanted to change the channel. I finally just stopped watching the show all together because of all the stupid little "isms" they kept repeating on the show over and over again.

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm sick of them specifying "good" olive oil, as if there is ever a recipe that calls for "bad" olive oil.

                                                                                                                                                                    I cringe every time I hear "ooey gooey" or "crispy crunchy".

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                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Atomic76

                                                                                                                                                                      I also gave up on The Chew, for those very reasons. Became cringe-worthy.

                                                                                                                                                                      On the olive oil (or "good" vanilla, etc, etc): just heard Ina laugh about it herself, saying "as opposed to all that bad oil you keep on hand."

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: pine time

                                                                                                                                                                        Speaking of Ina ... "How funny (or fill in any word) is that?"

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: RC51Mike

                                                                                                                                                                          And the chuckle, chuckle, chuckle that follows...

                                                                                                                                                                      2. Mouthfeel. Always sounds slightly disgusting to me and kills my appetite.

                                                                                                                                                                        Also good, as in "drizzle with good olive oil," or good whatever. What, you mean you think I keep bad olive oil (or bad whatever) around? If I did, it would be for feeding people like you.

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                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: emu48

                                                                                                                                                                          Mouthfeel or "Kou gan" is a particular feature of Chinese and Chinese influenced Asian food. So definitely not a buzzword.

                                                                                                                                                                          So most Chinese will commonly discuss this aspect of a dish as its as important as the flavour, there are lots of different terms to express the different textures and feel of different foods.

                                                                                                                                                                          Its a whole dimension that's alien to many western diners, but an appreciation of texture is integral to the enjoyment of Chinese cuisine.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: PhilD

                                                                                                                                                                            No doubt. But in these shows, it's never presented as such, or in a Chinese context.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: bob96

                                                                                                                                                                              When I was a kid (and now) mouthfeel was the reason I didn't like fresh tomatoes or cooked mushrooms, but I didn't have a word for it, so this one doesn't bother me too much.

                                                                                                                                                                              In the sense that PhilD described, umami is in much the same boat. Genuine word but used in a buzzwordy way by presenters who only kind of have a grasp on the concept.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: bob96

                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe - but it's crossing food cultures so can have relevance to other cuisines. The point I am making is that it's a very legitimate food term, like Unami, rather than a buzz word or word used out of context or incorrectly.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: PhilD

                                                                                                                                                                                  like the mouthfeel of braised beef cheeks....yum.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: bob96

                                                                                                                                                                                  In full agreement bob96, including the comment above by ennuisana about the use of the term Umami.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Vocabulary used by those trying to impress.

                                                                                                                                                                                  As in the old legal terminology in Court joke:

                                                                                                                                                                                  Judge/Magistrate:

                                                                                                                                                                                  " Relativity, Counselor, Relativity ! "

                                                                                                                                                                                  Counselor/Attorney:

                                                                                                                                                                                  " Not only will I show Relativity Your Honour, but I will show how it relates ! "

                                                                                                                                                                                  Or more specific to this thread:
                                                                                                                                                                                  " Umami hamburgers. " (Do they use fish or MSG ?)

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: SWISSAIRE

                                                                                                                                                                                    Or mushrooms, or cheese or cured meat......unami is a taste that is exhibited by many foods. A burger could also get it from the seasoning - maybe a little Worcestershire sauce.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't get your example as unami is unami it isn't anything else..?

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: PhilD

                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi PhilD-

                                                                                                                                                                                      I did my graduate work at Waseda University in Japan, and learned about the use and origins of Monosodium Glutamate from fish "products" there.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Umami then as now referred to something different than it is becoming in some circles.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Worcestershire sauce using anchovy as one of the minor ingredients is a bit of a stretch, if compared to fish sauce, or going back even further to Garum.

                                                                                                                                                                                      If added to ground meat, it becomes even less of a Umami component.

                                                                                                                                                                                      If on the other hand it is a fish patty, say perhaps from mackerel, salmon, or unagi, then I'm game.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Fugu is out for me by the way.

                                                                                                                                                                            2. I watched a Giada show the other day, and the theme was fun foods for kids. Giada said "super cute" about 2 dozen times.
                                                                                                                                                                              Super cute. It wasn't.

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                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                If the sound of fingernails on a blackboard were made into a word, that word would be "cute".

                                                                                                                                                                              2. The one that is starting to annoy me is "Turn up the Volume" as in:

                                                                                                                                                                                "I'm making a traditional Macaroni and Cheese, but with the volume turned way up", because the chef is adding some chopped jalapeno's or something to it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: mwk

                                                                                                                                                                                  yeah almost nobody considers treble or reverb anymore.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. why they hamburger meat and lobster meat but not pork meat or chicken meat

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. "You eat with your eyes first"

                                                                                                                                                                                    Please. Just. Stop!

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. "Just like that."

                                                                                                                                                                                      Giada, Rachel, Kelsey, etc. etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: elegraph

                                                                                                                                                                                          corollary: "put that in the bowl..." Really--thought I'd toss it on the floor unless you had said otherwise. Just filler-talk.