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Help! Need recommendations for trendy restaurant with amazing food & scene

orchid23 Jul 13, 2014 05:06 PM

Hi there,
I will be coming to NYC at the end of this month and am looking for a place to dine with my girlfriends. We are all very much into food and am looking for recommendations for a restaurants that is very much "right now" with amazing food. This would be for a Friday night at 11 pm, so a place that is still hopping at this time would be preferred. So far I am considering Carbone, Narcissa and Estela? Would you recommend these? Any other reccomendations? Any food-type goes.


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    orchid23 RE: orchid23 Jul 13, 2014 09:31 PM

    I just wanted to add a bit more background. Dinner is for 3 women, late 20's from Toronto. We are looking for a fun night out and to have outstanding food in a great, lively atmosphere. In past trips to NYC, I have dined at and enjoyed are Babbo, Torisi and Gramercy Tavern. I do not have a price range or food-type preference.

    So far I have narrowed my choices to the following:
    -The NoMad
    -Pearl & Ash

    Can anyone comment on these restaurants and let me know which of these may fit the bill?

    Thank you kindly in advance!

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      dragonfly RE: orchid23 Jul 13, 2014 09:48 PM

      Haven’t been to all on your list but of the ones I have, I highly recommend Narcissa & The NoMad given your request and the group dynamics. Although my dining experience was over the top outstanding at Betony and the service gracious and accommodating, I’m not sure the atmosphere is as lively as you may want it to be.

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        orchid23 RE: dragonfly Jul 14, 2014 06:07 AM

        Thanks for the info. I am hearing lots of great thing about NoMad, so I am leaning in this direction. However, I am really interested in Narcissa's menu, so thank you for the recommendations.

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          dragonfly RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 07:29 AM

          Fabulous girls night out dining al fresco in Narcissa’s garden in early June. Food was good; some items better (beets) than others (carrot wellington). Bar service tended to be slower than we would have liked. Definitely a trendy, beautiful people scene with many options after dinner in surrounding area.

          IMHO, the dining experience at Betony and NoMad are beyond compare.

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        Sneakeater RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 09:08 AM

        I think you've come up with a great list for what you want.

        I'd eliminate Betony. Contrary to what people on this board will say after they read this, a place on 57th & 6th isn't "happening" almost by definition (certainly not late-night)(I doubt the kitchen is even still open at 11) (well, maybe on a Friday).

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          Pan RE: Sneakeater Jul 14, 2014 02:58 PM

          Yeah, that's a very quiet neighborhood late at night.

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          Ttrockwood RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 03:09 PM

          Betony's kitchen closes at 10:30 fri pm....

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          Bkeats RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 05:42 AM

          My general observation about NYC is that amazing scene begats ordinary food. There are occassional exceptions, but when there's a scene, the food is usually beside the point. The places you have been to wouldn't be amazing scene places in my view.

          On your list, I do like NoMad and Betony though.

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            orchid23 RE: Bkeats Jul 14, 2014 06:11 AM

            Thanks. I guess I would rather have amazing food! I agree the places I listed were not scene places really, I just liked the food and the atmosphere. Since I will be dining late, I mostly just want to make sure that there will be a good crowd at this time, somewhere lively with a good vibe, so that we can enjoy our surroundings. Thank you for your recommendations, both look amazing.

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              Sneakeater RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 09:10 AM

              I strongly disagree. I think each and every place on your list has excellent food. There isn't a single one I'd advise against on grounds of food quality.

              Indeed, I think one of the best things about New York is that there are MANY places that have both a "scene" and very good food.

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            kathryn RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 06:22 AM

            What do you plan to do after dinner? If you want to go to a bar, I'd think about choosing something downtown vs the areas around Betony / the NoMad (unless you'll decamp to the NoMad Bar or the Breslin/Ace). I'd also say the crowd skews a little younger at places like Pearl & Ash, etc.

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              Hey19 RE: kathryn Jul 14, 2014 10:26 AM

              Im w Kathryn on this one.
              I would go to Narcissa, or Estela, or P&A, they put you in a better area for before and after dinner activities.

            2. c oliver RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 08:00 AM

              Just lurking here but have to ask - are these places all going to take a res for 11PM?

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                thegforceny RE: c oliver Jul 14, 2014 08:04 AM


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                orchid23 RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 10:40 AM

                I'm not too sure if we would be going out after. Our flight gets in Friday evening, so if we are eating at 11 pm, dinner will probably be our only event on this night. Would you say the food at Pearl&Ash, Estela & Narcissa are on par with NoMad?

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                  Sneakeater RE: orchid23 Jul 14, 2014 10:55 AM


                  NoMad is fancier.

                  That's not to say it's necessarily better. I personally prefer the food Pearl & Ash and probably Estela (NOT Narcissa). But there's no denying that the food at The NoMad is more luxe, and I can see why most people on this board would probably say it's better.

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                  Bkeats RE: orchid23 Jul 15, 2014 04:24 AM

                  Two other options to consider for late night are Momofuku Ssam Bar and Ippudo. Both are pretty lively at 11:00 on a Friday.

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                    orchid23 RE: Bkeats Jul 15, 2014 06:13 AM

                    Thanks Bkeats! I actually love both those places and have eaten there on previous trips. You actually reminded me that I want to hit up Ippudo again, which I will probably do for lunch on the Sat or Sun. Momofuku we now have in Toronto (though I definitely prefer the nyc locations).

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                    orchid23 RE: orchid23 Jul 15, 2014 12:43 PM

                    Thank you to everyone for your great recommendations! Based on your suggestions i've decided to have dinner at the NoMad.

                    Thank you again!

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