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Broccoli - Breathing

jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 03:40 AM

There's been recent news on broccoli being particularly effective at opening up air passages etc. Recommend 'dose' is 6 oz. daily - with 2X being even better. The articles just say 'prolonged' use - but has anyone seen any references as to when one might see some kind of results -- 3/4 of a pound every day - even if one likes broccoli - starts to be a bit much if one would have to go six months before noticing anything.

But two-three weeks would be nice. Of course, one would have to keep up some kind of regimen to maintain the effect.

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  1. Kris in Beijing RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 03:50 AM

    Holding my breath in anticipation…

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    1. re: Kris in Beijing
      jounipesonen RE: Kris in Beijing Jul 12, 2014 04:23 AM


      bunch of articles - mechanism not limited to just asthma - imagine could be of possible assistance in such places as Beijing

      but my question remains - for how long before effect noticed?

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        sunshine842 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 04:33 AM

        this phrase "Ms Mazarakis said the research was still in the experimental phase " means they don't know, either.

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          jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 04:39 AM

          There seem to have been a number of concurrent reports. Previous knowledge of the cabbage family also supports the findings so far.

          In any case it certainly is something to try with no risk whatsoever - to say nothing of the fact that broccoli is already considered a superfood.

          In any case I am still wondering the length of time where even these experimental findings are noting results.

    2. sunshine842 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 04:48 AM

      found this http://www.livingwithasthma.net/eat-y...

      but the quantities are going to be tough to deal with -- I'm an adult who likes broccoli, and I'm not going to eat two cups of broccoli a day.

      The article is aimed toward kids and broccoli -- good luck with getting any kid to eat two cups a day!

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        jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 05:18 AM

        Thanks - that's the original article I saw - but it doesn't tell how long before any results might be noticed.

        Two cups is about 6 oz. and is 4-5 medium florets. No big deal if it prevents nasty huffing-puffing. The florets are gone in 2 mins. - just a bit of butter and salt.

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          Puffin3 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 06:00 AM

          They'll just put the essential part into 'Gummy Bears'.
          How much water is needed to grow one acre of broccoli?

        2. re: sunshine842
          ipsedixit RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 06:09 AM

          Two cups of broccoli is not a lot. If I'm not traveling, I eat that quite regularly at home.

          Steamed broccoli and mustard is a particular weakness of mine.

          1. re: ipsedixit
            sunshine842 RE: ipsedixit Jul 12, 2014 07:16 AM

            but every single day?

            I'd lose my mind.

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              jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 08:30 AM

              OK fine - if you have Alpine lungs etc. - so please don't be concerned. Some of us haven't been as fortunate.

              It's no fun to be out of breath with some few steps so if eating some broccoli - which I like anyhow - for a handful of florets and a couple of minutes - I'll take it, thanks.

              Some natural remedy is also probably a lot better than chugging down some patented chemical at a 'nice price.'

              As far as I know I don't have COPD


              - but maybe those folks that do could benefit as well. Have you seen the ads for the drug for it - with disclaimers it can cause death, etc.?

              And still I'm wondering when someone would see the positive results from the broccoli.

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                sunshine842 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 10:52 AM

                You have no idea how much respiratory ailments are a part of my life.

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                  jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 11:11 AM

                  So why did you write something that seemed to dismiss the whole thing (IMO)?

                  If someone even had the endurable loss of breath that I have - I would think that eating some florets of broccoli a day would be no big deal.

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                    sunshine842 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 12:57 PM

                    Not dismissing the whole thing at all...just accepting the reality that 2 cups a day, every single day, is hella lotta broccoli, and I'm simply not going to succeed trying to force two cups of broccoli down DH and pups every single day.

                    We eat a lot of broccoli as it is -- but we like to have other vegetables on occasion, too....and while I'm not minimizing the results, it's also healthy to NOT eat the same thing every single day.

                    1. re: sunshine842
                      jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 01:22 PM

                      Eating some florets of broccoli every day is noy going to hurt anyone.

                      But still no one has seemed to come up with an answer to my ORIGINAL QUESTION!!! -- HOW LONG????? If someone would find the answer to that, this 'every day' thing would be IRRELEVANT - because it might well be there are results in 3-4 weeks (surely doable) - and then one can back off on a trial and error basis.

                      As for other vegs - the articles say other cabbages can be used but they don't have the same concentration of the sulf.....

                      I'd just like to walk briskly up an incline - and chomping down some veggies is not a problem FOR ME - everyone can handle it on their own terms.

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                        sunshine842 RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 02:02 PM

                        since every single one of the recent articles says they're still working on it....as above...they either don't know, or aren't sure enough to say.

                        I'm a big fan of health through nutrition, but the respiratory patients in my life just aren't going to be cured by eating broccoli, not ever, and they're not going to start jacking around with large quantities of the same food day in, day out until there's some sort of quantifiable research out there.

                        Do the researchers have any idea what the interactions are between the compounds in broccoli and existing respiratory medications? Is there a grapefruit-juice reaction? Is the broccoli inert in relation to the meds? Are they even studying this? (didn't see it mentioned, which doesn't mean they're not, but it sure doesn't mean they are, either)

                        It's great that they've discovered this, and we look forward to something solid on which to pin our hopes, but right now it's a lot of conjecture and not much data.

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                          jounipesonen RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 03:09 PM

                          I basically agree.

                          There would not seem to be any danger of also eating broccoli. Your points about interactivity are good - but 6 oz, is not any killer amount.

                          I also would not pooh-pooh something because it happens to be totally naturally occurring - and even in our gardens. I have no reason to trust engineered molecules to any greater extent - and I say that as a chemical engineer.

                          Let's just hope that these folks are onto xomething. It shouldn't be too long before there would be some clinical results and decent stats.

              2. re: sunshine842
                ipsedixit RE: sunshine842 Jul 12, 2014 10:21 AM

                Well, I've already lost my mind.

                So, yeah, everyday wouldn't be a problem.

                When not traveling I routinely eat upward of 2 lbs of broccoli a day, and that doesn't include things like cauliflower, Chinese broccoli (gai lan), and broccolini.

                Yeah, I'm very regular.

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            beevod RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 08:53 AM

            I believe you have to smoke it.

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              jounipesonen RE: beevod Jul 12, 2014 10:43 AM

              That's hilarious.

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              treb RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 10:22 AM

              It helps breathing in and breaking wind!

              1. Kris in Beijing RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 10:43 AM

                Here you go: lots of pills.

                And, 6 PubMed hits:

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                  jounipesonen RE: Kris in Beijing Jul 12, 2014 11:13 AM

                  Why pills (which are often scams anyhow) when the natural stuff is so available?

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                    Kris in Beijing RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 11:15 AM

                    Just some FYI that the 2008 article you saw is a part of an industry of already existing supplements.
                    But not necessarily a lot of supporting research.

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                      jounipesonen RE: Kris in Beijing Jul 12, 2014 12:20 PM

                      Not so sure how you are attributing it to 'old stuff' when it has been news on respected sources in the last days,

                      There's been no hint of our 'corporate friends' getting their grubby hands in there as there has only been mention of the actual foods - including other cabbage family members.

                      And previous research seems to go along logically with the hypotheses. And in any case there is no real danger in anyone going along with it as all the articles say to continue the usual prescribed meds.

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                  jammy RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 06:58 PM

                  My daughter won't eat broccoli because she says "It tastes like asthma". I always thought it was an odd thing to say, until today.

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                    mariathewholefoodie RE: jounipesonen Jul 12, 2014 07:08 PM

                    I actually work on a research team studying this! Never thought I'd see it show up on chowhound. The active ingredient is much higher in broccoli sprouts than broccoli, and it gets broken down/deactivated when heated or cut.... Made for some difficult but fun recipe testing to come up with ways to get people to eat it without heating or cutting it! It works wonders on kids with asthma.

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                      Ttrockwood RE: mariathewholefoodie Jul 12, 2014 09:42 PM

                      So the OP should be looking for (prob at a farmers market or health food store) broccoli sprouts vs whole broccoli?
                      And the broccoli should be eaten just raw, munched off the original stalk?

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                        jounipesonen RE: mariathewholefoodie Jul 12, 2014 11:21 PM

                        How does the 'cutting' affect the potency? I know cutting onions initiates a chemical process - but what's with the broccoli? Hopefully a clrean cut to get a floret off shouldn't mess everything up.

                        And any idea how long one should do the regimen to see if it works?

                        Is there any hope of isolating the active ingredient and making it available?

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