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the truth about poutine?

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this is what i found on wikipedia

"It is a mixture of french fries with fresh cheese curds, covered with hot gravy. The curds' freshness is most important as it makes them soft in the warm fries, without completely melting. When the curds are really fresh they will often squeak between the teeth. Poutine with melted cheese is not regarded as 'genuine poutine', nor is poutine made with shredded cheese or cheese slices."

man I remember every poutine I"ve had cheese is almost always sumwhat melted...

anyone ever have 'genuine poutine'?

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  1. This board is for finding great chow in Montreal, rather than overall discussion of Quebec cuisine.

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    1. re: The Chowhound Team

      let me clarify

      anyone have a 'genuine poutine' in montreal?

      being from montreal I don't want to travel to who knows where for poutine.

      1. re: wade
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        Plateaumaman

        Yes, like I said in my earlier post, go to La Banquise on Rachel. They have a nice 'Elvis' poutine with hamburger meat and green peppers but you can also get a 'genuine' poutine sans extras here.

        Methinks the moderators are a tad jumpy?

      2. re: The Chowhound Team

        Actually, chowhound team person, it says on the board that it is about Québec, including Montréal.

        I hate poutine, by the way. I like crunchy frites.

      3. g
        Great River Road

        I gave "genuine poutine" a try ---While in Montreal for a week I was introduced to poutine. I'd never heard of it before that visit. (Wondering... is it strictly a Montreal 'delicacy' ?)
        I saw poutine on many menus, and finally became brave enough to try it. After eating part of it I began to wonder again....why ruin cheese curds by burying them in gravy, and why toss it atop french fries ? I did try it a second time at different restaurant, and the results were the same : soggy french fries, greasy gravy, and cheese curds that were rendered tasteless by the gravy flavor.
        I guess I wasn't very impressed. :-) Give me my fries all by themselves. Give me my Wisconsin cheese curds all by themselves, and save the gravy for mashed potatoes.
        Maybe someone can suggest a restaurant that serves 'higher quality poutine'...ummm.... if that's possible.

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        1. re: Great River Road

          I've probably eaten poutine on and off since about the time it was "invented" and tend to agree that it's junk food, not cuisine, but satisfying and provides good body fuel for the cold Winter weather in PQ.

          However, one of Montreal's most noted restos serves a foie gras poutine, if you are looking for a gourmet experience (forgot which restaurant, but someone mentioned it in a recent post).

          And puhLEEZ, that's Quebec cheese curd, not Wisconsin, which makes it an even greater shame to douse it in gravy.

          Link: http://eatingchinese.org

          1. re: Gary Soup

            The restaurant that serves poutine au foie gras is called Pied de Cochon on Duluth....

            1. re: eat2much
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              Plateaumaman

              ... and the foie gras poutine at Pied du Cochon is very good, very tasty.

              I once saw the "inventor" of poutine interviewed on t.v. and he said he hadn't intended it all to be melted together. He dipped his fries in gravy and had a bit of cheese at the same time. So it is better if the cheese curds remain somewhat intact, but not cold.

              Poutine at La Banquise on Rachel is very good, with many variations on the theme.

              1. re: Plateaumaman
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                Great River Road

                Maybe I'll have to give poutine another try. The foie gras poutine does have many fans. I'm guessing that the finer dining establishments do a better job at creating the quality poutine that the "inventor" originally intended.

                1. re: Great River Road

                  The foie gras poutine at Au Pied du Cochon, while fun, is probably not the best poutine in Montreal. For that, I have three recommendations:

                  Maam Balduc, on de Lorimier. A menu of a handful of outstanding poutines. I recommend the Sainte Perpetue.
                  La Banquise, on Rachel near Parc La Fontaine. Hands down, the best poutine restaurant in Montreal, with 22 varieties last I counted. Personal favorites: Poutine au Bacon, and the Kamikaze style.
                  Poutine Lafluer, in Verdun. This is not "Lafluers", the hot dog chain, but a single-owner casse croute, which makes probably the best stand-alone classic poutine in Montreal.

                  Enjoy!

                  1. re: Great River Road

                    I live in Quebec and never really liked poutine. I love fries, I love fries with gravy - I'm just not a big fan of cheese, and so never went gaga over poutine.
                    Sure, give 'er another try, but don't feel pressured to like it...

                    While on the subject, I find fries with gravy almost everywhere in Quebec. As you get farther away, it seems dousing your fries with gravy less fashionable.
                    I remember being in the state of Georgia awhile back. I was in a take-out joint and ordered a fry to go, and, um a gravy too.
                    "So you want one fry and biscuits and gravy?"
                    "No, a fry and just a side of garvy."
                    "no BISCUITS? Just the gravy? Why?"
                    "I'm gonna use it on my fries."
                    The server turns around and yells out (you gotta imagine the southern drawl) "Hey Edna, this feller is ordering gravy WITH NO BISCUITS - he says its for the fries!"
                    The entire staff of 4 as well as about 12 customers look at me like I'm from mars...

                    They did serve me the fries with a side of gravy, but were quite reluctant...

            2. re: Great River Road

              Poutine was either invented in Warwick or Drummondville, in the province of Quebec, but there'S a big debate between the two cities about it, they're very passionate about it. As for gravy on top of mashed potatoes, excuse me for saying this but I find it gross as it turns into a big mush ressembling melting snow and ruining the velvety texture of good mashed potatoes. As for poutine, if the curds are fresh and cool, they'll hold up well in the mix.

              1. re: Campofiorin

                I'll be driving through Drummondville on my way from Boston to Quebec City. Where should I stop for Poutine?

                1. re: chuck s

                  Well I googled "Meilleure Poutine à Drummondville" and pulled up a FB thread:
                  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid...

                  Discussion seems to point to

                  Ashton
                  Resto du Boulevard
                  Café St-Pierre
                  Roy Jucep (this one comes up a lot in said thread)
                  Christine pizza
                  Rotisserie Fusée

                  There are more passionate suggestions on there, but I don't know how good you are in really really slangy French.

                  Oh and there is a poutine festival in Drummondville 3-4 September 2010

            3. Actually Poutine is quebec's own pride but the real poutine appelation comes to us from New-Brunswick in canada. over there folks use salted meat ( pork but also beef could do ) that is envelopped in a mixture of baked and raw patato. They use half boiled patato and they shredded half raw patato to make a paste like texture. They roll a ball of the mixture with a spoonfull of salted meat in the middle. boilthe ball and top with sugar.

              Personnally, I still prefer classic cheese curd with gravy poutine.
              Insight; Best poutine ever is in Napierville, Quebec Canada; Cantine Bayeur.

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              1. re: Wicked_J

                Not trying to be a PITA or anything but the best poutine can be found at Morasse Poutine in Rouyn-Noranda.

                1. re: Simon Patrice

                  Passing through, I gave this one a go, being the only place with any mention whatsoever in Rouyn-Noranda ..
                  Possibly the second worst food experience ever, Service was acceptable for counter take out. Surroundings run down, dirty and dingy. We threw out the shoe texture yellow chicken and KFC look a like cole slaw. Gravy - nothing to write home about. I was dreaming of St Hubert up the street, where my odds on a decent meal may have been better.
                  I remember having a better poutine at burger king in Toronto once, years ago; this was a supersized lunch bag let down.

                2. re: Wicked_J

                  Yes, Poutine râpée (from Acadia) is an utterly different dish. I believe the term poutine is also used in regions of France, once again with a different meaning.

                  1. re: Wicked_J

                    Woo hoo! more places to add to the Quebec Poutine biking tour!

                    I highly recommend the poutine in Gentilly, Patates Roulante:

                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/530313

                  2. Just had some poutine a La Belle Province( Sept 6), One of the Best around. La Banquise Is also Very good but the fries could be better. One of my favorites is south of Montreal at Barry in Bedford Quebec.
                    Some that are not very good- Costco, Dunes, Mike and Rubens - although their smoked meat poutine is pretty good.

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                    1. re: triplestrike

                      My brother and his kids swear by La Belle poutine. Just seems counter intuitive that a small chain can make the best - but hey it works for them.

                      1. re: triplestrike

                        Come on, La Belle Province's poutine is terrible. Overly salty gravy, doubtful curds and quite ordinary fries. Not even close to qualifying as one of the best around. Doesn't even come close to la Banquise even on a good day.

                        1. re: Campofiorin

                          Considering La Belle province are run independently (ok a couple of them have the same owner) the poutine differs a lot from one location to another.

                          Even for Hotdogs, they differ, some uses Lafleurs sausages, some Lester's...

                          That being said, there is some Belle Province that do an great poutine, perfectly cooked fries, room temp fresh curds and gravy that is not too salty, as opposed to others that can ruin the poutine (The one on Peel comes to mind as one to avoid)

                          1. re: westaust

                            The one on Ste-Cath and St-Laurent is the worse of em all.

                            1. re: westaust

                              Ahhhh, OK, that makes sense now.
                              A Labelle opened in Lasalle awhile back and we were always disappointed in their flagship product - the hot dog. Apparently Schneiders.
                              They eventually changed and we like the dogs here...

                              1. re: westaust

                                I always hated the one on Peel, The La Belle an the south shore- On Taschereau near Best Buy has always been excellent.

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