cooking forums moving to facebook??
I visit several food sites for tips/tricks/ideas/recipes. A few that I HAD been going to have moved to FB or Twitter?? Now they're no long nice neat categories, but a jumble of posts?
What do you think?
Agreed that they may lose a lot of people who used the forums on their own site, however, Facebook is Facebook....they will likely GAIN far more people. I imagine they make the move over to that sort of social media interface because it will, in fact, open them up and make their presence known to far more people than just those who actively seek out sites of that nature. It is what it is.
I'm not on Facebook so I wouldn't participate. I am aware of some people who have met on food sites using Facebook to pursue off topic conversations. Which has the benefit of keeping a food site from feeling too cliquish and discouraging newcomers.
food.com was formerly recipezaar. It was bought out by the Scripps Network
They changed the format, they changed the recipe sifter
the forums stayed but many of them changed names
Since the change over there were more site problems than ever before
Recipes were corrupted
Cook books were lost
Some recipes were totally lost
When members left they’d auction off their recipes to remaining members (so that five star whatever dish that you posted, it now belongs to someone else)
People paid for “Premium” memberships and then within days ALL members were given the same privileges as a Premium member, yet no word was given about refunding money to people who paid for the membership that was then turned into “standard”
The forum hosts were volunteers
The moderators I believe were the same
There was a shakeup in the “community” a while back where some long time members were booted which caused a mass exodus and shone a spotlight on the Community Café, where members went to talk about whatever they felt like (avoiding race/politics and other “hot button” issues)
As things tend to happen on the internet, a conversation about race became inflammatory
I’m not really sure what the final reason was for Scripps closing down the forums
They claim they were “working on new content” but they had programming problems
Then *poof* gone
The site has been in decline since 2010 when Scripps took over IMHO
One of the former members created her own forums
I was a long time active member of the “community” at zaar…
I am now considering somehow pulling my recipes off the site before I close out my account. It’s very disappointing
I am on the Critters and Community Café facebook page
It is a bit much for me to follow, but it’s nice to see some of the ‘old crew’ that left zaar a long time ago again.
(they’re a great bunch of people!)
I am sad to hear this, as I am (or was) a fairly active member of food.com, and all of a sudden, the forums are gone!
I know, since the changes occurred, recipes and cookbooks are much harder to navigate.
I have basically all of my recipes there! What can you guys recommend in terms of a website for typing in and storing family recipes? Thanks!
I have all mine there too... I've heard good things about pepperplate but the way you import is to copy/paste a URL so if something happens to that recipe on that site, (or something happens to the site itself) I wonder what would happen to the recipe?
I know members who have physically printed out all of their own recipes and recipes that they use often for this reason. (I can't imagine printing out all of mine AND the ones I love from that site, I'd have STACKS Of paper)
This is the trouble with the 'Net and the "cloud" - what's out there may disappear at any time. And I say this despite the fact that I use at least six different online recipe boxes, *and* store a lot of recipes on Google Drive.
For the things you treasure, that you couldn't bear to lose, there is no substitute for hardcopy and/or stored files on your hard drive that you backup, religiously and systematically. This does not mean you print out every recipe you've ever seen that you're "going to make someday". That would be madness.
And don't commit your personal heirloom recipes to any site online, where you could not only lose them, but have them auctioned (that boggles the mind) to strangers.
it's already happened (basically)
when you sign up for most recipe sites, you're giving up your "rights" to that recipe.
They can take it, use it, make money from it, whatever they want
when you join, you have to agree to their Terms of Service, (which I didn't read)
the TOS state that ALL content on the website, even user submitted, becomes the intellectual property of the site owner
Well then, I'm glad I haven't shared my personal recipes on any to those sites. I'll make it a point never to do so, thanks.
It's just another extension of something I said about Facebook (and it applies to other sites as well) - if you're not paying for it, You *are* the product.
As far as intellectual property goes, every single word we post here is the property of CBS Interactive.
It would never occur to me to store anything of value on someone else's computer. Everything I have is stored on a few differerent HDD's right on my local PCs and home servers, including several thousand recipes.
About 40 years ago, at the dawn of the PC age, we were told that storing our data on someone else's computer was the stupidest thing ever and the solution was to keep your data on your own desk -- there was this brand new thing called a "Personal Computer" that would store all your data *on your desktop.* You didn't have to rely on hooking up to someone else's mainframe in case of crappy connections or if it crashed or any other stupid thing.
Wise advice then and now. Every recipe I find online is copied into Word as plain text and takes up virtually no disk space.
to clarify, the group on facebook was created by former hosts of the forums, it has NOTHING to do with Scripps Network/Food.com or facebook.
I don't know which you are talking about, but I do participate in some Facebook cooking groups. There's a Moroccan cooking group based on Paula Wolfert's books, the Wok Wednesday group cooking through Grace Young's Stir-Frying to the Sky's Edge, and Leite's Culinaria What's for Dinner, just to name a few. All excellent groups. There are more, about cookbooks and other things. I really enjoy the Facebook groups I am in. They are similar to participating in the COTM here on the CH Home Cooking board. But the CH boards have been around quite a bit longer (in internet years) than the Facebook groups, so only time will tell about the longevity of such groups.
I do use Facebook. I use it exclusively to keep in touch with friends and family I actually know.
I don't do forums or games on Facebook, and I don't use Facebook to log into other sites. I like keeping different parts of my on-line life separate. If a forum insists on making you use Facebook or Google ID's to log in, I leave.
I totally agree with you; that is also how I engage (or not) with Facebook. It's obvious that FB wants to become what AOL tried and failed to be, your sole gateway to Internet content. I refuse to go there. I don't want Facebook to know everything about my online activities and where I am out IRL so they can sell me, track me, analyze me, *know* me. No thanks.
A site that requires me to use a Facebook sign on just means I move on, not sign on. One that pushes me to use a FB sign on but gives me other options just annoys me.
In fact, I'm about *this close* to pulling put of FB entirely. We are their product, people, and all their "privacy" changes, pullbacks, and now the unethical manipulation of their users' News Feeds have just pissed me off one too many times.
Younger people are moving away from Facebook to newer, trendier ways of online sharing, in part because their parents and grandparents have jumped onto FB, too.