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Attention Chefs: Can we all agree that bacon is over?

Because I'm over it.

1. It doesn't belong in dessert.
2. Yes, it goes with waffles, but you don't need to put it in there twice.
3. Biscuits and gravy are enough. No bacon necessary.

Please stop.

~TDQ

1. Butterscotch Banana Cake, Smalley's, Stillwater MN

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Bacon does not belong in dessert!

2. Waffle sandwich, Groundswell Coffee, St. Paul

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Does the waffle sandwich need both candied bacon and to be topped with bacon?

3. Biscuit and gravy, Groundswell Coffee, St. Paul

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This is just too much on top of too much.

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  1. All of them seem pretty appetizing to me.

    And I don't even like bacon that much. I like it. Just not that much.

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    1. re: ipsedixit

      You're not really helping my cause. :)

      And yes, it was all delicious by the way for about two bites, except that my husband thought the maple candied bacon on the banana cake was vile.

      ~TDQ

      1. re: The Dairy Queen

        Taste aside, the concepts in each of those photos seem quite natural.

        Bacon adds a nice savory bite to sweets, as well as textural contrast (in the same way nuts do) to frozen desserts like ice cream.

        The bacon on the waffle sandwich is essentially your typical American diner breakfast plate. So that's all good, I suppose.

        And the biscuits and gravy with bacon just seems so obvious. Lots of gravy recipes have bacon and/or bacon grease, right?

        1. re: ipsedixit

          No, no, no :) That kind of gravy has bulk sausage only. I know this stuff :)

          I've bought bacon chocolate a couple of times - and paid a bloody 'fortune for it. And had to imagine that I tasted bacon.

          1. re: c oliver

            I bought a bacon/chocolate donut at Publix a few weeks ago. It sucked. But the maple bar I bought? Put some of the bacon from the chocolate one on that... divine!

            In conclusion, if we were meant to eat bacon and chocolate together, they'd be selling chocolate bacon in the deli case, alongside the maple bacon.

            And I agree completely. Biscuits and gravy means sausage gravy. Bacon should stay with the eggs, where it belongs.

            ETA - Hey! I just took another look at that third pic. When did it become "Biscuit and gravy"? Just because it's sporting a couple slices of pig doesn't mean we don't get our second biscuit. Oh, hell, no!

            1. re: DuffyH

              Good grief, we're in agreement...again :) And,yeah, I can't imagine bacon in gravy. How would you know it's even there. Sausage all the way!

              1. re: DuffyH

                Would it make you feel better to know that the biscuit was a rosemary bacon gruyere biscuit?

                ~TDQ

                  1. re: The Dairy Queen

                    Hi TDQ,

                    < Would it make you feel better to know that the biscuit was a rosemary bacon gruyere biscuit? >

                    Hell, no! Rosemary and gruyere don't belong anywhere near sausage gravy. And what's with the damn bacon again? It's not enough to plop it down on top of the gravy, but we've got to bake it into the biscuit? I mean, honestly, WTF?

                    Don't mistake me, I would hoover that biscuit up in a nanosecond, for sure. But the gravy will overpower the gruyere, and there's usually plenty of rosemary in the sausage without loading the biscuit with it. Restraint is one of my watchwords with rosemary. Can I have one of those biscuits, please? :-)

                    1. re: DuffyH

                      Consider this an invitation to you and c oliver to come to St. Paul for a bacon and generally porkified (MplsM ary's word, which I now claim as my own) dishes chowdown.

                      I didn't post the photo of the housemade hotdog that was wrapped in bacon because the hotdog toppings obscured the bacon from view, but I'm wishing I had.

                      ~TDQ

                      1. re: The Dairy Queen

                        Ooh, I forgot that Mother used to slice a hotdog partway through, put in cheese and then wrap with bacon and fry. Double pork. Is that okay or banned???

                        I can bring our home ground pork burgers.

                        1. re: c oliver

                          Deep fry? OMG. I think you must apply for a stand at the Minnesota State Fair next year.

                          ~TDQ

                        2. re: The Dairy Queen

                          Can we go to the Fair? I want to try the Pizza Tots, Pretzel Curds and Chocolate Dessert Salami. SnoRibbons for an afternoon cool-down.

                          Even though the Florida State Fairgrounds are only 20 minutes away, I have to wait until next February to taste this stuff here. IF it makes the summer fair cut.

                          1. re: DuffyH

                            Absolutely. You just have to be here sometime between Aug 21 and Labor Day. (good research!)

                            ~TDQ

                            1. re: The Dairy Queen

                              Research is key. When we lived in Sandy Eggo we used to check the food booth placement before heading out every year. First stop was always the grilled corn ~150' inside the main gate. 10am grilled corn was only 4-5 hours from the field AND in prime corn season. Best.Corn.Ever.

                              1. re: DuffyH

                                Oh gosh, you really have to plot it out if you want to try to do all of your favorites AND try new things, especially if you've got the kiddo along. MN State Fair has awesome grilled corn too. It's a favorite of mine for sure.

                                ~TDQ

                                1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                  We always left the kids at home. Grownups need time out, too! :-D

                                  Our big thing was the commercial exhibits, which are HUGE at the Del Mar Fair. Really huge. I loves me some product demos.

                          2. re: The Dairy Queen

                            Considering that the original name for St Paul was Pig's Eye Landing...

                    2. re: c oliver

                      No, no, no :) That kind of gravy has bulk sausage only. I know this stuff :)

                      Plus A One Rat Cheer!!!

              2. Bacon is for breakfast. Bacon is, of course, for BLTs. I recently crumbled some bacon on bowls of mushroom soup. You have great examples of how not to 'use' bacon. Shiver.

                1. That waffle sandwich is a transitional form, showing the evolution from bacon things to waffles things, which is now in full flower. What the hell is up with food lately?

                  Evolution takes forever, with new forms developing over time and with purpose. But here comes food, hell-bent on having it's own little Cambrian explosion, morphing into all kinds of oddities that have no chance for long-tern survival.

                  I mean, seriously, WTF?

                  1. As a vegetarian, bacon fever, along with the whole porkifying of every dang menu item, has been a nightmare. For a few years in a row I was at least able to order a salad and dessert without having to ask if it had meat in it. Dessert. Sob! The one area of the menu where I always felt safe and cozy. No more.

                    Macaroni and cheese without bacon is tough to find these days. From your post to whose ever ears -- enough with the bacon!

                     
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                    1. re: MplsM ary

                      < .... enough with the bacon! >

                      So right. I think we jumped the shark the moment we installed bacon vending machines in public restrooms.

                       
                      1. re: fldhkybnva

                        Well, as MplsMary points out, that's practically everything. You'd have to eat, like, plain yogurt or oatmeal.

                        ~TDQ

                        1. re: The Dairy Queen

                          OT but I'm always surprised when I see someone out to breakfast - which I consider a treat - and they're having oatmeal. Like, duh, you can have THAT at home.

                          1. re: c oliver

                            I've been doing more of that lately than I care to admit. Why bother to go out you say? Well, the rest of my family can go ahead and indulge in half a barnyard and I can stick to my meal plan. And I don't have to cook or clean up! But, I'd rather have the bacon, to be honest!

                            ~TDQ

                            1. re: c oliver

                              I feel the same way about eggs in general. Aside from things like benedict...it's like...why would you go out and pay a 400% markup on something you can make so easily at home?

                              1. re: joonjoon

                                I don't think anyone ever makes our eggs *exactly* as we want them in any diner or restaurant. Close, perhaps, but never spot-on as when we make them ourselves.

                                We're also more forgiving of ourselves if we fluff the preparation, but not so much if a restaurant gets it wrong.

                              2. re: c oliver

                                Actually, steel cut oatmeal takes a lot longer to cook than most things I eat for breakfast.

                                1. re: calumin

                                  That's why I make a big pot of it and microwave it for 4 days or so.

                              3. re: The Dairy Queen

                                On NONSENSE. I've never been to any restaurant that has bacon in "practically everything."

                                  1. re: MplsM ary

                                    That's too funny. If I want to walk into a restaurant that smells like bacon, I'll choose Denny's. At least they'll give me pancakes with my bacon. And it will certainly cost less.

                                  2. re: jmckee

                                    Try coming to North Carolina ...

                              4. I'm not drawn to bacon in sweets but it's hard to imagine a savory dish that can't include bacon. I am posting because based on the TJ Yea/Nay thread, I bought the fist-size package of uncured bacon ends. I baked the whole package of irregular slices today, and will freeze the cooked pieces since I am not sure if they keep in the fridge as well as baked cured bacon. What delicious stuff this is! I then used some crumbles of it atop storebought multigrain pizza dough also topped with TJ frozen figs that I thinly sliced before thawing, caramelized onion, and cambozola cheese. Personal sized, baked on a sheet preheated at 475F, turning off the oven as soon as it came back up to temp, left in shut oven for 12 minutes. Then drizzled with a bit of TJ truffle-flavored oil before slicing and enjoying. I am shamelessly blaring my own horn over this one! I'd have expected to pay $10+ at a restaurant, and would want to go back for another the next day.

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                                1. re: greygarious

                                  Woman, go for it! That sounds great!!! PS: Was that TJs pizza dough also?

                                  1. re: c oliver

                                    No, I have tried TJ whole wheat pizza dough several times and have no luck with it. Bottom is undercooked cardboard, rim overcooked cardboard, whether parbraked before topping, or not. This was my first try with the local supermarket's multigrain dough, which baked up beautifully.

                                    1. re: greygarious

                                      The regular dough is great. Never tried the whole wheat.

                                2. Bacon will never be over for me. I have been eating "bacon candy" since I was child (in the late 60's), always loved peanut butter and bacon sandwiches and my favorite waffle is the one where you lay the bacon over the waffle iron, pour the batter over the bacon, close the waffle maker and let it cook.

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                                  1. re: foodieX2

                                    I never eat waffles and have certainly never owned an iron. Now I want one :)

                                    1. re: foodieX2

                                      A pox on you for mentioning this delicious-sounding bacon waffle!

                                      You're like a bad friend in a break-up reminding me why my ex wasn't really all that bad. ;-)

                                      ~TDQ

                                      1. re: foodieX2

                                        Is the bacon partially or fully cooked beforehand?

                                        1. re: greygarious

                                          Nope! All the fat gets absorbed into the waffle and the bacon stays soft except for the places where it actually touches the iron. The key is a thin batter and a smoking hot iron. The "recipe" came with the waffle maker, Hamilton Beach, circa 1985.

                                          I do have to admit in my old age I can't really stomach them to often-too rich.

                                      2. I have yet to eat a bacon dessert. Will this cost me my Chowhound posting privileges?

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                                        1. re: ennuisans

                                          Hope not. I like being able to post here. ;-)

                                        2. Item one: the bacon is unnecessary and does not add anything; rather, it detracts from the whole butterscotch banana experience.
                                          Item two: even without the bacon, that sandwich looks dry and unappetizing; even bacon can't save it.
                                          Item three: get the herbs out of the biscuit, get the freakin' Gruyere out of the biscuit, yank the bacon off the dish, and put the bacon grease in the gravy where it belongs. And yes, put the second biscuit back in the bowl!

                                          Summing up: Bacon will never be over, but yes, it can be, in the wrong hands, overdone/overused/overwrought.

                                          1. I agree that bacon is not needed with biscuits and gravy. You seem to be only focused on restaurant uses of bacon. I have a great recipre for a dark chocolate cookie that includes dried cherries and chopped bacon. I do not think it is over.

                                            (I did make a 'bacon explosion' A few years ago that was basically a bacon stuffed and wrapped italian sausage meat loaf that was just too salty to really enjoy.)

                                            1. 1. I'm not a chef.
                                              2. I don't like biscuits and gravy. I love bacon. it would be better with bacon.
                                              3. Bacon goes with everything.
                                              4. I had some chocolate-covered bacon that sent me to heaven. I ate eight pieces in one sitting. I've never before had eight pieces of bacon in one sitting. and I don't even love chocolate all that much. ergo....
                                              5. Bacon does not detract from anything. it only enhances.
                                              6. Chefs: please don't stop putting bacon in everything. I beg of you.

                                              1. This didn't need its own thread, and fits nicely here. Nineteen (19) times Bacon fell into the wrong hands. Absolutely!
                                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07...

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                                                1. re: mcsheridan

                                                  I sent this to a chef acquaintance begging him to NOT put any of these on his menus :)

                                                  1. re: c oliver

                                                    LOL. - I just hope you didn't inadvertently give him ideas. (He'd have to be an especially perverse sort to do that, though, after you begged him not to.) In any case, you did *your* part in the battle to end bacon abuse! :)

                                                  2. re: mcsheridan

                                                    Those are hilarious. At first I was thinking, okay, I might try that, but I didn't get very far before I started saying, OMG, too much!

                                                    ~TDQ

                                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                      I had exactly the same thoughts. And I do believe that two of them can be rescued and done well. The bacon cinnamon roll, if made as a regular roll sprinkled with really crispy bacon bits (in lieu of pecans), would be scrumptious. The taco bacon weave was intriguing, too. Except then they went and put taco fillings in it! WTF? Why not put breakfast in it?

                                                      As presented, these are all just too wrong.

                                                  3. Bacon itself? HELL no!! Bacon craze? Oh, I hope it's over. It was fun and then it was silly and then it got tedious. Like those books that show 187 sexual positions: why? I say three's plenty unless you do it eight times a day and bore easily. Since a household of two with one vegetarian can use only so much bacon anyway, but in nothing to be shared unless friends come over, the bacon-wrapped hot dog and the chocolate-coated stuff (at $20 for five pieces!) at the fair are as loony as I get. And even though I adore the stuff I do not want any in my hamburger, thanks all the same.

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                                                      1. re: Will Owen

                                                        Bacon-wrapped hot dog is a classic item of Girl Scout cuisine. You slice the dog lengthwise almost all the way through, stick in some pieces of cheese and wrap in bacon and secure with a toothpick. Cook until bacon is done and the cheese melted. I learned to do that when I was 10.

                                                      2. I agree. Bacon belongs with eggs. Or in a BLT. Period.

                                                        1. Bacon can surely be "out" for those who ever thought it was "in." Just like sriracha, cilantro, avocado... whatever. I'll still use them the same as I always have.

                                                          P.S. If you're over it, who ordered those dishes.

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                                                          1. re: gordeaux

                                                            1. My husband
                                                            2. My husband
                                                            3. I ordered biscuit (just one) and gravy!

                                                            ~TDQ

                                                          2. Bacon may be overused - and sometimes used inappropriately - but it's not over. A little goes a long way, though (IMHO) but it adds savory notes and crispness to salads, sandwiches, and, yes, even sweet dishes.

                                                            It does not, however, go with biscuits and gravy, which when well-made can hold its own amongst pork products.

                                                            1. Bacon ice cream is great

                                                              1. Hi, DQ:

                                                                Bacon over? Shirley you jest.

                                                                You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers. It's the true Vitamin B, a thing without which life would not be worth living.

                                                                But I agree that perhaps it's not all things to all preps, and that it's use could be better focused.

                                                                Aloha,
                                                                Kaleo

                                                                1. I like bacon. Sometimes I order a side of bacon. Also, sometimes I order something on the menu, "without" the bacon. Not "possible"? OK, I'll order something else.

                                                                  1. Sounds to me that this is really about whether bacon is one of your essential food groups. If you're of that persuasion, then I suggest, it's not the bacon that's the problem in any of the above, it's rather that in the first it comes with an unnecessary cake, in the second it's placed on an entirely superfluous waffle, and in the third it comes with a redundant biscuit. Why not just replace all these will still more bacon and have bacon with bacon?

                                                                    If you're of the opposite persuasion, then perhaps advocating the former course of action upon restaurants putting bacon in things might solve the problem. Or might mean that you can never eat there again...

                                                                    1. 1-why the hell not
                                                                      2-yes..yes it does
                                                                      3-Never!!!!!
                                                                      :)

                                                                      1. Yum, I hope bacon isn't over, EVER!

                                                                        I will admit, when pressed, that some recently observed dishes containing bacon would probably be better without bacon.

                                                                        Regarding the biscuits and gravy, I hail from a good southern family that, at one point in history, ate this every single morning for breakfast (not me - I'm too young for that era). For decades. And yes, bacon grease was sometimes involved in the gravy-making. And there was sometimes bacon on the table at the same meal. On top of the B&G? No.

                                                                        Anyway, I make great sausage, some very competent biscuits, and some pretty great gravy. We only have this every month or two; it's kind of a gut bomb. It's easier to appreciate if you eat it less often...

                                                                        1. Okay, so while the bacon explosion is not really my cuppa tea and on the extreme end of the bacon spectrum... I will say that I have enjoyed some of the other varied uses for bacon.
                                                                          a coworker of mine made the maple-candied bacon once, it was really GOOD!
                                                                          I've had chocolate covered bacon on the Boardwalk in Wildwood, NJ (Where I believe it was invented) and I thought... meh
                                                                          but your #1 and #2 pictures look really tasty to me

                                                                          Instead of bacon being "over" can we agree that maybe there should just be a more judicious application of the use of bacon
                                                                          (and can we agree that we should stop calling it "meat candy"?)

                                                                           
                                                                          1. Absolutely disgusting and I like bacon, too, but it has its place like anything else.
                                                                            And, its place is not on beef burgers, it's pretty nasty wrapped around shrimp and it certainty doesn't belong on desert.
                                                                            Yup, I agree with you. It's too much.

                                                                            Rick

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                                                                            1. re: thegrindre

                                                                              Hi. thegrindre: "[Bacon's] place is not on beef burgers..."

                                                                              I'm sure you speak for at least a half dozen people all across North America. ;)

                                                                              Aloha,
                                                                              Kaleo

                                                                              1. re: thegrindre

                                                                                Really? no bacon on a burger?
                                                                                Not even this one?
                                                                                The Burger: Take the standard 8 oz. Village Burger, slather it with maple bourbon-glazed cipollini, melt Rogue bleu cheese all over it, give it an applewood-smoked bacon coat of arms and top it with a foie gras crown, and you have the Whiskey King

                                                                                 
                                                                                1. re: thegrindre

                                                                                  I'm no fan of bacon burgers because I find the bacon loses it's crispness, which is just icky to me. But still, they've been around for a LONG time, and are pretty popular. That very popularity is proof to me that bacon does belong on a burger; it just doesn't belong on my burger.

                                                                                2. The Orange County (CA) Fair has bacon-wrapped deep fried turkey legs this year. Gag!

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                                                                                    1. re: sandylc

                                                                                      Damn sandylc, I spewed tea on my keyboard Good thing I use Splenda. :-D

                                                                                      1. re: DuffyH

                                                                                        Excellent! I can now say that I've accomplished something today! ;-)

                                                                                  1. Yes enough with the bacon already! (except on my bacon, p-nut butter and banana sandwich)

                                                                                    1. Bacon will never be over. It deserves to be in its own major food group, as do chocolate and wine.
                                                                                      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/din...

                                                                                      1. The great thing about restaurants is you can order what you want and let others order what they want. If you are over something you can safely ignore it while others can enjoy it and your world won't end.

                                                                                        1. Needs three more pieces of Bacon and Chocolate Syrup.
                                                                                        2. Needs at least one more slice of Bacon on top, not crispy but meaty.
                                                                                        3. Needs a sausage patty and Fried egg on top.

                                                                                        1. I like bacon but bacon is not over rated in the real world. It's only over rated on the internet. In real life, most restaurants do not glamorize bacon.

                                                                                          Again, I like bacon but I agree it's not that great and mostly used as a gimmick for rare products that most people have never heard of. Bacon is not that really popular in real life, if it were, you would see it everywhere. What's very popular actually is sushi. A sushi restaurant will easily draw more people than a bacon restaurant but deceptive internet media knows that bacon draws a lot of internet readers.

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                                                                                          1. re: Ribsspare

                                                                                            Interesting take. Ever single restaurant I have been to in the last 6 months has had some iteration of bacon on the menu-Cobb and other salads, burger or pizza topping, succotash, chicken livers, Mac n cheese, with scallops and other seafood, a variety of potato dishes just to name a few. Yet the only sushi I see is at Japanese and other Asian/fusion places. And I have to say even a few of those have had some abomination with bacon.

                                                                                            1. re: Ribsspare

                                                                                              Sushi encompasses many ingredients and is produced in nearly a hundred varieties (there could be more, but I wouldn't know, as I don't eat sushi).

                                                                                              Bacon, except in rare instances, is an ingredient - not a dish. So it's hardly a fair comparison; there might be a handful of bacon-themed restaurants in the country, but there's hardly a restaurant in the country that doesn't use bacon on something. Excepting of course, sushi restaurants and vegan/vegetarian havens.

                                                                                              Check my avatar icon; I know bacon. I like bacon.

                                                                                              FWIW, I think we have far too many sushi restaurants in the country already, not to mention there's a sushi bar or sushi takeout section in a refrigerator case in nearly every supermarket chain in the country. A sushi restaurant named, of all things, Allspice, just replaced my only, repeat only, Middle Eastern restaurant in the area. That sucks! Allspice sounds far more like a Middle Eastern restaurant than a sushi joint, doesn't it?

                                                                                              1. re: mcsheridan

                                                                                                <Bacon, except in rare instances, is an ingredient - not a dish.>

                                                                                                Unless you're at a place like Shoney's when the morning buffet is on. Then it's breakfast! ;-)

                                                                                                1. re: mcsheridan

                                                                                                  Boy, you and I should talk sushi. I DO NOT GET IT. The emperor is very naked when it comes to sushi.

                                                                                                      1. re: honkman

                                                                                                        That's a strike against it right there, honkman.

                                                                                                      2. re: linguafood

                                                                                                        Why people get so excited about it.

                                                                                                        1. re: sandylc

                                                                                                          um, because it is the height of deliciousness and freshness? so we're all faking it? with all due respect, the emperor is certainly not naked just because you don't happen to like it!

                                                                                                          1. re: sandylc

                                                                                                            Well, people get excited about all kinds of things. Taste is subjective as we all know.

                                                                                                            Just because some things don't float my personal boat doesn't mean they're bullshit.

                                                                                                        2. re: sandylc

                                                                                                          That guy was an Emperor? No shit? Wow. I run past the seaweed/rice/stinky shit case so quickly I only ever have time to register Naked and Guy.

                                                                                                          Glad you cleared that up.

                                                                                                      3. re: Ribsspare

                                                                                                        There is a lot of mediocre sushi out there.

                                                                                                        1. re: scubadoo97

                                                                                                          Nah. I think I ate it already. Y'all should be good to go now.

                                                                                                          You're welcome. ;-)

                                                                                                        2. re: Ribsspare

                                                                                                          Not sure where you live, Ribsspare, but I have a hard time getting away from bacon.

                                                                                                        3. I grew up with bacon gravy and biscuits.

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                                                                                                          1. re: PotatoHouse

                                                                                                            Mom was midwestern and made salt pork gravy and biscuits. I think because it was cheaper than sausage, maybe? Not sure.

                                                                                                            Me, I like sausage, a mix of ½ spicy + ½ anything else. Maple, sage, country, it all works.

                                                                                                          2. Does not sound like you have a consensus!
                                                                                                            Bacon will never be over. It's flavor is just too versatile and beloved.