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Little girl kicked out of KFC story a hoax.

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Sadly, this does not really surprise me for some reason.
http://www.people.com/article/kfc-sca...

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  1. Some people do these things simply for the attention, others for a weird satisfaction in fooling others, and then there are the bottom-feeders looking for the financial generosity of strangers.

    These kind of media/internet hoaxes turn up every other week, it seems. Like more serious "breaking news" stories, it pays not to react or make judgements before at least 72 hours have passed.

    It's sad, really. It makes everyone more skeptical of stories where bad things really *do* happen to real people, less trusting of news outlets, and more hardened, generally. It's also a reflection of the editor-free environment in which most bloggers live, and the reduction in staff at news outlets, which means fewer fact-checkers and rushed editors.

    It's nice that in this case a newspaper *did* investigate, and I hope the "adults" in question get prosecuted for any and all statutes the Prosecutor's office can think to throw at them.

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    1. re: mcsheridan

      Agree with all of that.

      Kudos to KFC though, who said they will still be paying off some of the girl's medical bills ($30,000 worth last I heard).

      1. re: nothingswrong

        That is nice, because whatever guilt, poor judgement, or bad intentions might be ascribed to the adults involved here, the child is innocent and does have real medical issues to be addressed. KFC will come out on the high ground here. Good publicity, and goodwill, for them.

    2. I must admit that I accepted the story completely... hook, line, and sinker... despite other fraudulent claims about fast-food chains that have been in the news -- and which should at least have made me more skeptical.

      Is "hoax" the right word? Or would "scam" be better?

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      1. re: drongo

        IMHO
        Scam = intentional aim by the perpetrators to defraud
        Hoax = untrue story that goes viral, probably without the participation of the original source (there's a thing about purple eyes that fits this category).

        Since the GoFundMe has been closed, according to the above source, I'm personally leaning towards scam.
        However, even the names of the family are different here than in other media reports, which would support the hoax idea.

      2. Here's another article with a few more details. The anonymous sources seem on the up and up to me. Guess the grandmother didn't expect it to snowball the way it did...

        http://wfaa.mlnwap.com/article.html#!...

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        1. re: miss_belle

          Same citation, though:
          sources with deep knowledge of the investigation said exclusively to the Laurel Leader

          However, it's an excellent listing of all the available details.

        2. The subtext that I gathered, and I certainly could be wrong, is that the adults were not in it for personal financial gain. There were problems getting the insurance company to cover the child's very real medical needs and the family was running out of ways to pay for the girl's bills. I got the feeling that the adults were at their wit's end to figure out how to help the girl and were pushed to extremes.

          Yes, the actions were illegal, immoral, etc. I find it so terribly sad, though, that there seemed to them to be no other way, aside from illegality, to get their child proper medical care.

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          1. re: rockycat

            You'd think the ACA might be able to alleviate some of their medical care issues.

            1. re: linguafood

              Yes the ACA could have helped provide adequate insurance to cover the girl's medical bills. BUT Mississippi is one of the many states that have refused to participate in the ACA medicaid expansion leaving a donut hole of folks who aren't ultra poor and not rich without coverage.

              It's a big deal here in Virginia, there's now a political scandal where a conservative democrat was bribed into resigning to turn the state senate back into GOP hands, preventing our Dem gov from getting VA to take the ACA money.

              1. re: HokieAnnie

                Yes, it's a sad state in many ways.

            2. re: rockycat

              so I guess ruining an owner's business and tarring the reputation of a corporation all falls into fair play?
              It just seems you are defending the illegal and immoral actions as it was the only option left.

              1. re: genoO

                If you actually read what I wrote, I clearly said that the adults' actions were illegal. I expressed sympathy and sadness that they felt pushed to such an extreme.

                Feeling empathy for another's pain is not the same as condoning illegality. Perhaps if more people realized that, situations such as this would occur less frequently.

                1. re: genoO

                  The ends justify the means.

                  Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?

                  Fat Tony: Bart, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?

                  Bart: No.

                  Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?

                  Bart: Uh uh.

                  Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?

                  Bart: I guess that's okay.

                  Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?

                  Bart: Hell, no.

                  :)

                  1. re: 4X4

                    Not quite sure why either of you seem to equate feeling someone's pain and understanding their difficulties with supporting crime. However, if you take your moral lessons from the Simpsons, I guess I don't have all that much more to say.

                  2. re: genoO

                    I heard on the radio that the KFC in question had been closed for at least a couple of years. That was why the lady was busted.

                    1. re: John E.

                      Hopefully, the right thing will be done and be allowed to open again very soon. I feel terrible about what happened to the little girl. But grandma committed a crime here, and rare is the victimless crime. The little girl, the KFC owners and employees are all victims. Unfortunately, Grandma chose to put her family's financial needs above those of others.

                      1. re: alliegator

                        I don't think we know why that Kfc closed. In the Twin Cities there was a group of KFC's that were in bankruptcy proceedings and Popeye's bought 14 of them and the other four just closed up.

                        The closing of that location had nothing to do with this non-incident.

                      2. re: John E.

                        CBS news this morning showed the location as open and said they had reviewed the security tapes for days surrounding the alleged incident and couldn't find any video of a girl fitting her. That was part of their internal investigation additionally they highered an outside agency to investigate who couldn't substantiate the grandmothers claims.

                        1. re: jrvedivici

                          I read a story that an aunt of the little girl claimed she made the mistake about saying the incident happened at a KFC that has been closed for a couple of years. I did not make it up. Frankly, I not certain the incident ever happened.

                          1. re: John E.

                            I wasn't insinuating that you made anything up, was just sharing what I saw this morning on the news. I have no idea what claims the aunt was making, and I'm very sure the incident never happened at this point.

                            1. re: jrvedivici

                              I think KFC headquarters handled the situation quite well.

                            2. re: John E.

                              I read that, too. When the grandmother realized her mistake she changed locations, and that's when things started to fall apart.
                              Another problem was that the little girl was using a feeding tube for her nutrition so it was very unlikely she was going to eat mashed potatoes and gravy. The dogs that mauled her were her grandfather's, the grifter granny's ex-husband. Talk about a messed up family!

                    2. The real victim here is the little girl.

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                      1. re: jpc8015

                        Particularly since her physical injuries were caused by dogs owned by her grandfather.

                        1. re: Kris in Beijing

                          I missed that nugget of info. Then it sounds like an easy fix for the girl. Grandparents get jobs and/or sell everything they own to get her proper care for the damage they caused. Why is that so hard for some people to grasp.

                          1. re: RC51Mike

                            Or file a claim on their homeowners insurance.

                            1. re: jpc8015

                              I doubt grandpa told his insurance he had 10 male pit bulls in the backyard.

                              1. re: Firegoat

                                You are correct, homeowners won't cover the claim if you have undisclosed dogs that caused the injury. There is actually a "bite" list for agressive dogs.

                          2. re: Kris in Beijing

                            Yeah, that's one of the things that really bugged me. I don't have a issue with owning a pit bull. Any of them that I've known, kept as the only pitty in the household were sweet and well behaved. But 10?! That is just not a normal thing to do. I feel that the grandparents created this problem, and now they're looking for others to solve it.
                            So sad for the little girl.

                            1. re: alliegator

                              I like that KFC is standing by their plan to assist the girl with $30k even tho it is obvious it is a scam. First "Grandma" had the wrong location .. picked one that was closed for years... the latest, now that after going through all the surveillance footage and receipts that they were never there is oh... i might have got the date wrong. But... it really really happened! Really!
                              Grandma needs to go to jail over this fraud.

                              1. re: Firegoat

                                Grandma and the family that went along with the scam need to make a VERY public apology to KFC ... like yesterday.

                              2. re: alliegator

                                The grandparents are divorced.

                            2. re: jpc8015

                              if the girl is the victim, who's the perp?

                              1. re: Worldwide Diner

                                Paw Paw and his pack of pit bulls.

                                1. re: John E.

                                  I hadn't known the girl was mauled by her grandfathers dogs prior to reading this thread. Just out of curiosity do we know what the outcome was for grandpa and the dogs? Has he put it/them (if there was more than one) down, surrender them to authorities, or as my guy tells me, kept them but built a better pen?

                                  1. re: jrvedivici

                                    The grandfather(ex-husband of grandmother) and his girlfriend were arrested on child endangerment charges and are out on bond. He shot and killed two of the dogs and the other eight were seized by Animal Control officers.

                                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

                                    1. re: miss_belle

                                      Thanks for sharing that article, its the most thorough I have read to date. Regardless of all the nitty bitty facts, the entire story is a shame.

                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                        What I find a shame as well is that we seem to rely on a British website/newspaper to get the most thorough news coverage on various stories such as this one.

                                        Edit to add:

                                        After reading the story, I have to say that I think the mother (why haven't we heard anything from her?) and anyone else responsible for this little girl's care were negligent (maybe not in a legal sense) in letting the girl go to her grandfather's house WHERE THERE WERE 10 PIT BULLS!

                                        1. re: John E.

                                          I'm wondering if there were three adult pits and seven puppies. That might explain why the others didn't join in. But that wouldn't sound nearly as dramatic as 10 PIT BULLS.

                                          The only mention I've seen of the girl's mother is the grandmother posted that she came home(from the hospital I presume) with a new baby on the same day the KFC incident allegedly took place. Not a peep otherwise.

                              2. re: jpc8015

                                I agree she became the victim the minute she was born into this family.

                              3. Apparently the family is now refusing the $30k from KFC because "it wouldn't be appropriate."
                                http://www.wjtv.com/story/25929734/vi...

                                Here is a more detailed story. Appears they are going to accept the free surgery and the $100k donated
                                http://www.clarionledger.com/story/ne...

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                                1. re: Firegoat

                                  The more details, the sadder the whole thing becomes.

                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                    If I were to speculate, and I am, I would guess they are not taking the money from KFC so they would not be profiting from KFC due to their accusations they have made against KFC. So far, I am inclined to think this was a hoax against KFC. They want to get some money from KFC, they got it elsewhere and they are getting medical treatment without costs, so they have gotten what they set out to achieve.

                                    1. re: John E.

                                      My first thought on the refusal -> Would they have to sign anything if accepting from KFC?
                                      2nd thought -> the 30k has been eclipsed by the other donated $.

                                      1. re: Kris in Beijing

                                        I would hope they would have to sign a statement saying that the money will not be used to pay the Grandmother's legal fees.

                                  2. Next step will be to sue KFC for embarrassing them because hoax was uncovered. I am sorry for the little girl but to me, what a bunch of thieves and then to reward them.

                                    1. my BS detector went off the first time I heard this story on the radio.. and my mom said "sad how jaded you have become so young" and I said Not jaded mom just realistic... do you really think some teen KFC employee is going to have the balls to come from behind the counter and ask someone to leave? They barely engage you to give you your food. WHy didnt they pull the security camera to run pictures of the douche bag who made the request? SOunds to me like she heard KFC is an easy pay out...
                                      jI hate that I was right..but I am glad that nobody actually was so hateful to have actually done something like that.