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Jun 24, 2014 04:42 AM

Pan with non-stick coating that isn't teflon

I saw some pans at the local Giant today (I'm in Malaysia) which had the heft of a carbon steel pan and were solid black. The label said it had a non-stick coating, but it wasn't teflon or the like. The surface - both inside and out of the pan - felt a bit like rough carbon steel with a very fine pebbly kind of surface. It wasn't smooth like teflon is. The label on the pan said "non-stick coating" but otherwise didn't say anything about the kind of metal used for the pan or anything else. This is fairly usual for the region.

I should have taken a picture. I won't be back there again for another month, most likely, so won't be able to take a picture any time soon.

Any ideas on what the pan was made of? I can't use teflon due to the fluoride - I'm severely sensitive.

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  1. The new ceramic-based cookware are nonstick. They are often called green pans. The other one is silicone based.

    Keep in mind that there are plenty companies which will and have advertised their cookware are not Teflon, but in fact using the same material (PTFE) as Teflon.

    Teflon is a brand name of PTFE made and marketed by DuPont. There are plenty companies which make PTFE and they cannot and will not be called Teflon.

    Swiss Diamond is such company. It uses PTFE, but also touts that the cookware do not use Teflon and are healthy for you. It is correct, but very misleading. I think it has finally (somewhat) cut back its lawyers' talks:


    "Designed for healthy cooking, Swiss Diamond allows cooking ..... Swiss Diamond does not use a pre-fabricated base such as DuPont Teflon®....."


    "Do you use PTFE?

    Yes. Swiss Diamond’s nonstick coating is an exclusive PTFE-based formula manufactured in Sierre, Switzerland. Each component of the formula is carefully sourced and imported under strict European health and safety regulations. Swiss Diamond does not use a pre-fabricated base such as DuPont Teflon®."

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    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

      I have an enamelled rice cooker pot. The feel is quite slippery compared to the pan I saw. I haven't seen silicone used in pots or pans, though I do have cake pans that are silicone. I have a hard time thinking that this mystery pan might be silicone - it's far too hard.

      Yeah, I know Teflon is a brand name, but I couldn't think of the correct generic terminology, so I used Teflon instead.

      1. re: LMAshton

        <I couldn't think of the correct generic terminology, so I used Teflon instead.>

        Right, I was just wonder if your product claimed to be "Not Teflon" or "Not PTFE". They could mean different thing.

        Tramontina has a new silicone based nonstick cookware (not PTFE) using the NP2 technology coating.

        "NP2 is a patented, polymer-based, silicone-hybrid coating. Traditionally, non-stick cookware is coated with PTFE. Unlike other PTFE-free technologies, NP2 is a polymer-based coating, providing a level of durability not available in typical, ceramic-based PTFE-free

        I doubt it is one of these silicone based nonstick cookware, but just saying that there is this possibility.

        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

          The only claim on the label was "non-stick coating". Or maybe it said "non-stick pan". Yeesh. My memory gets worse as I get older. It might not have said coating at all. Next time, I get a photo.

          Hmm. I'm going to read up on the NP2 coating. It could be that, and even if it isn't, it could be interesting anyway. Thanks! :)

    2. I think what you described was anodized aluminum cookware. Calphalon is probably the most popular maker in the States.

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      1. re: JungMann

        I've had two anodized aluminum pots. They were a dark grey and they were much smoother than this pan. The striations from machining were also obvious in both. This mystery pan had more of a fine pebbly sort of finish and was black. I'm not convinved it's anodized aluminum, although I do appreciate the input.

      2. As CK noted, if it says nonstick, it likely is.

        Some new pans are getting a rougher coating designed for searing and building fond, or so the claims go. I think they're designed to be less than ice sheet slick, but still release well.

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        1. re: DuffyH

          Well, the thing about this region is that labelling is not, strictly speaking, necessarily accurate or complete. I've seen unfinished aluminum pots labelled as nonstick.

          But your comment about the rougher coating makes me think it's best if I just don't tempt fate and leave this pan alone. Thanks. :)

          1. re: LMAshton

            <it's best if I just don't tempt fate and leave this pan alone. Thanks. :) >

            Well, rat crap. Here I was hoping you'd pick it up and let us know how it works. I admit to a long-standing curiosity about semi-nonstick finishes, like the rough matte black enamel on Staub and LC skillets. The new rough ceramics have only made me more curious.

            Ah well, I'll have to wait until another guppy swims along and tries one. ;-)

            1. re: DuffyH

              Thing is, I have massive problems with fluorides, so if there's a remote chance it has fluorides in it, I cannot ever use it without getting sick. It's not worth the risk for me.

              1. re: LMAshton

                I absolutely understand. We do not mess with the health. Nope, we don't.