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Jing Fong still good for Dim Sum?

We are looking for a good Dim Sum place in Chinatown. Coming from San Francisco where we have fantastic Dim Sum we know this might be a challenge. We were told about Jing Fong. Can anyone else vouch for this place?

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  1. No. If you are used to fantastic dim sum you will be disappointed. I would suggest having something other than dim sum that is specific to New York such as Barney Greengrass

    1. What dim sum places have you been to in San Francisco? The best dim sum out there is found in the greater Bay Area, like Koi Palace in Daly City.

      Hakkasan is your best dim sum choice in NYC.



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      1. re: scoopG

        is it feasible to make a meal of dim sum at hakkasan? I mean, I know it's theoretically possible, but if two diners came in and ordered solely "small eat" dishes and drinks, would staff be ok with that?

        1. re: debinqueens

          Deb I've gone in and just eaten dim sum, same with ordering just dessert. I don't always order entrees and I've never been made to feel weird. I have went with good friends who are Jewish and observe kosher dietary restrictions (but don't require the place be certified). We just order vegetarian dim sum and desserts.

        2. re: scoopG

          In this instance, I wouldn't even recommend Hakkasan given that OP is from SF, where they already have a Hakkasan.

          1. re: ipsedixit

            For something different, I recommend dim sum items at Decoy Restaurant (below Redfarm). I don't think Jing Fong comes close to Koi Palace, but it's not horrible.

            Interestingly, Hakkasan in SF has some pretty good reviews. At very least in contrast to the scathing reception in NYC.

        3. Honestly, I'd skip dim sum in Chinatown while you're here, given what you've told us, and focus on what you can't find at home.

            1. Good enough, yes. Entertaining and fun dining experience, yes. As good as or better than SF dim sum? No.
              I've had dim sum many times in SF and i hate to say that it isn't a strength here....

              I agree with kathryn, go somewhere that is unique to nyc or harder to find in SF- like the new russ and daughters cafe, or katz, or motorino....or maybe check out red farm for some unique takes on dim sum that you won't see in SF.

              1. i agree w/ the others here: unless there is some strong need for dimsum, i'd avoid it in NYC on a short trip and instead enjoy one of NY's strengths...fwiw, we do have some good Sichuan, which many cities do not...

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                1. re: Simon

                  And Henan, Xian, and Fujian. Some good Cantonese, too, but not really good dim sum.

                  1. re: swannee

                    How many people who aren't Fujianese really enjoy Fujianese food. Probably just a handful of chow hounders

                    1. re: AubWah

                      It is pretty esoteric. I love their wine lees dishes, their fish soups, their bizarre meat stuffed fish balls, their fish noodles, and their odd take on vegetable dishes (cold bitter melon, cauliflower). But it will never become the new Sichuan or Shanghai cuisine!

                      1. re: swannee

                        where is the best place for the meat-stuffed fishballs in Manhattan?...someone requested that i find that yesterday...

                        1. re: Simon

                          I recommend the Fuzhou snack shop at 118 Eldridge Street

                        2. re: swannee

                          I love all the fujianese dishes you mention, especially the fish balls.
                          I also think if the dim sum places they go to in SF don't have carts, that it is worth the experience of going to a banquet place like Golden Unicorn. As much as CH'ers hate dim sum in NYC. I enjoy my food. Lo May Gai is delicious always there, the Har how is better than any other dim sum place i've tried in NY, the chicken feet are delicious, ,,Even if not as good as SF or HK, me and 100's of Chinese people seem to enjoy it very much

                          1. re: foodwhisperer

                            I'd guess that most SF places have carts.

                            1. re: foodwhisperer

                              Not all CH'ers hate dim sum in NYC :) (if posting on CH makes me a CHer).

                              The overall state of dim sum in NYC could definitely be better, but it's not a wasteland that the echo chamber on the NYC board makes it out to be. And there are plenty of bad dim sum places in SF and LA... frozen, reheated dim sum pushed around in carts...

                              I feel bad for tourists that come to NY and are discouraged by the exaggeration and miss out on good Chinese food because it's not as good as Asia, (or perceptions of what it's like in ) LA and SF while being recommended lackluster ramen, pizza and burger places, etc. :)

                              Sure NYC is stronger in some items/cuisines than others, but IF you want to eat dim sum in NYC, there is good dim sum.

                              1. re: Pookipichu

                                Sure NYC is stronger in some items/cuisines than others, but IF you want to eat dim sum in NYC, there is good dim sum.

                                I think your keyboard had a hiccup.

                                Let me correct it for you.

                                "Sure NYC is stronger in some items/cuisines than others, but IF you want to eat dim sum in NYC, there is dim sum."

                                There, that's better. Easier on the eyes too.

                                1. re: ipsedixit

                                  Have you tried the dim sum at Decoy yet? What I've had has been very good, better than my experiences at RedFarm :) Oh and what I've tried of the Shanghainese dim sum at China Blue has been good as well.

                                  I'll be the first one to say that Hakkasan dim sum is not consistently great (and there are some service issues/noise issues that bring down the level of the experience). But neither is Koi Palace, Yank Sing or Sea Harbour or Elite. There are some clunkers.... there may be less tolerance because Hakkasan is at a much higher price point, I understand that.. but that doesn't mean you can't get good dim sum in NY. :) I know you disagree, but I'd like a tourist to at least hear a second opinion before writing off dim sum. I would not recommend Hakkasan in this instance because they have one in SF, but I think Decoy is worth them checking out.

                                  1. re: Pookipichu

                                    "High end dim sum" regardless of if it's in LA, SF or NYC is anathema to me. I know I'm not the majority but I just have a problem with dim sum costing a lot.

                                    1. re: c oliver

                                      me, too. To me it's a convivial time with a group of friends or family, drinking lots of tea, and eating tasty tidbits. I seldom eat great dishes at dimsum but that isn't what I expect.
                                      That being said, if one is aiming for great cuisine in a vst to NY, I would concentrate on th many things that are really well represented here. Kathryn has great lists.

                                      1. re: swannee

                                        Yes, she does. The depth and breadth of food in the NYC-area is huge. At any price. Can't wait to get back.

                                      2. re: c oliver

                                        Me too.

                                        But that doesn't stop me from eating it, however.

                                        1. re: ipsedixit

                                          I will someday...in some city...but that's going to be a subject for another thread :)

                                        2. re: c oliver

                                          Just curious, do you feel the same way about pasta? Or steak, or tacos, or bibim bap? I ask this without any negative tone, just curiosity. Because there are a lot of foods in N.Y. that are easier to make than dim sum and are marked up in price or "elevated".

                                            1. re: c oliver

                                              So no Topolobampo or JungSik for you?

                                              Darn, and I was going to invite you to both the next time we were both in the Windy City and the Big Apple, respectively.

                                              1. re: ipsedixit

                                                Just checked their menus. I can be had :) I've NEVER been to Chicago which is something I really need to correct!

                                                1. re: ipsedixit

                                                  It doesn't even have to be JungSik level, one poster who was bashing Hakkasan as awful and expensive has recommended a Korean restaurant that has ridiculously expensive, small portions of ok meat, mediocre food all around and a pretty view.

                                                  There are people who have no problem with paying $17-20 for a bowl of rice with a little kimchi or $35 for a few slices of short rib, but think that dim sum, which is labor intensive, with high quality shrimp or pork or scallops etc., should be cheap.

                                                  Or $25 a plate for a little bit of pasta and a little bit of meat.... so on and so on

                                                  1. re: Pookipichu

                                                    Do you care to be more specific about this Korean restaurant that you do not recommend?

                                                    1. re: bcc

                                                      Gaonnuri, totally underwhelmed.

                                          1. re: Pookipichu

                                            Thanks for your comment. Ipsedixit although serious, is pretty witty. But, I've been eating dim sum in NYC for decades and enjoy it when it is good by "New York Standards". Jing Fong in Manhattan I don't like at all and have had really bad dishes there. Red Farm is I guess "fancy" or "innovative" but no great shakes to me and doesn't satisfy any dim sum craving I may have. Hakkasan had some good dishes but some dishes seemed to be simple dishes made into fancy ones that came with an exorbitant price. China Blue is good but I hate the service. DSGG i've had very unfresh dim sum and hate the place,
                                            Hop Shing was always a good standby for takeout dim sum, Red Egg i found to be overrated and not very good.
                                            Palace 88 ( the old Triple 8) goes from good to bad and now it is good again, back in the day 30 Pell was IMO the best (aka Hong Gung),, Golden Unicorn I like the best. The carts empty quickly and the food is fresh.
                                            This is contrary to popular opinion on here but I enjoy Golden Unicorn, and will surely recommend it to the OP.
                                            I like the dishes I mentioned previously, chicken feet, tripe, lo may gai, lo may fon, little spareribs, Congee, had how, Seafood pan fried noodles,,,other stuff. It's what I crave when I want the dim sum I've had for so many years. The dishes havn't changed at Golden Unicorn in all those years, The food is better than ever. Egg custard i like too, and the white wiggly gelatin like dessert that I never remember the name of.
                                            I wonder if I would prefer dim sum in LA to NYC or even HK to NYC , as this is the taste I am used to here.

                                            1. re: foodwhisperer

                                              I generally agree but comparing Red Farm to Golden Unicorn/Jing Fong is like apples and oranges.

                                                1. re: olympusnyc

                                                  you're right, they are like apples and oranges. I guess seeing Red Farm listed in the thread, made me add it, in that it's "dim sum" doesn't fulfill my dim sum fix, when i need it.

                              2. Just Dim Sum or Dim Sum with ladies pushing the food carts? Read all the replies below. Jing Fong is not WOW but it is still decent. Plenty of local Chinese folks eat there each day.

                                1. Although we get to SF and other Left Coast dim sum cities, we go to Flushing for dim sum. Depending on the length of your trip. There's an incredible amount of great food/cuisines in NYC so dim sum wouldn't drive me unless I had loads of time.