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In another thread I mentioned that in a couple of weeks I'll be having arthroscopic rotator cuff (including biceps tendon and labrum repair) surgery. I live alone and with the exception of the first couple of days, I'll be on my own for sustenance during my recovery. I'd welcome suggestions from anyone with experience with cooking one-armed with the free arm being the non-dominate one. I have a well-equipped kitchen to work with which is good. No dishwasher though so I'm going to be using a lot of disposable plates, cups, and such.

Trader Joe's is about a mile away, and I'm thinking of stocking up ahead of time on some freezer things and visits there on the way back from my PT appts. Home food delivery is out as I can't really afford that. Looking for some good creative ideas. Thanks!

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  1. PT and home cook at your service, here.

    My vote is for prepped meals that you can put into the microwave or oven.
    If you are able to make meals ahead now, do so.

    You will be in a sling and have very limited use of your surgical arm for the near future.

    Buy decent weight paper plates that can be lifted with one hand, and make sure they have a lip- you might be chasing your food around for a while.

    Buy a nice big Tervis tumbler with lid, and use straws. This will allow you to eat and drink with one hand.

    A mezzaluna rocking knife will come in handy too.
    http://www.amazon.com/Amco-Stainless-...

    Good luck!

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    1. re: monavano

      Good idea about the mezzaluna. I've never used one but see the Wustof one that comes with the curved cutting board. I wonder if that would be helpful.

      Keep the ideas coming... I'm making notes!

      ETA: What about putting things in vacuum sealer bags? From your experience, will they be a challenge to cut open?

      1. re: Leepa

        Opening a sealed bag should be just fine.
        You can position your surgical hand (in sling) so that it stabilizes the bag while your non-dominant hand cuts the bag.
        Imagine placing the bag on your counter while doing this.

        What you won't be allowed, or really able to do (sorry, it's a bit painful!), is lift and do things that take your upper arm/elbow away from your body.

        You'll get a good idea of how to negotiate things from your PT.

        Also, think about getting some relatively baggy, front- button down/snap shirts ;-)

        1. re: monavano

          Yup. That's the plan for the clothing. For the last several months, I've been realizing how painful it can be to do a lot of things with my arm away from my body or extended. And I'm sure that's only a tip of what it will be like. I've been practicing using one arm for the last week or so. Not so easy.

          I wonder if one of those razor letter opener things would be good for the thick vacuum bags. I have one at the office that I think I'll try...

            1. re: monavano

              Those Fiskars are money, used to use them to do a lot of trimming back in the day, they are quite durable.

              1. re: monavano

                I have a couple of pair of Fiskars kitchen shears that should do then. I was thinking of something along the lines of this letter opener. I have a bunch of them at work that we've accumulated over the years and was thinking it might zip the bag open pretty easily.

                 
                1. re: Leepa

                  Gotcha- that should be fine.
                  I was picturing something else.

      2. If you've got a couple of weeks then you have tons of time to cook and freeze in meal or two sized portions. Things like lasagna portion out quite nicely. Quiche, frittatas, etc. Ground meat for burgers, fish fillets.

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        1. re: c oliver

          casseroles, stews, etc do too. or buy frozen meals, etc. about a year ago i had a broken elbow, dominant arm, and it was tough! i did have assistance for some of it, but when on my own...honestly, a lot of cheese/bread/cold cut plates (lame, but i often used pre-sliced sandwich cheese, or similar), fresh raw fruits and veggies, dried fruits, nuts, hummus with pita to dip. supermarket rotisserie chickens. also good are frozen pre-formed burger patties of any kind. my rice cooker saw a lot of use. frozen veggies, frozen burger patty microwaved, bowl of rice, top with veggies/burger, microwave topped with cheese was a standby. trader joe's also sells excellent frozen chicken strips, etc that would be good for this.

          1. re: chartreauxx

            Yup. I think it's important to remind OP and others that we're not talking about a permanent lifestyle change. It's temporary. Go for any and everything that's easy and pain free (or almost).

            1. re: c oliver

              absolutely. in contrast to a lot of conversations on chowhound, this is really a case of food as fuel - something to consume to power recovery. and it'll require compromises to maximally benefit OP's health without pain and/or possible damage to the surgery site. it's really just a few weeks. and things like easy assembly sandwiches (think basic meat+cheese+spread(s) or PBJ), frozen pre-formed/sliced items, plates of pre-sliced meats and cheeses with crackers/bread/toast/pita etc, premade dips (hummus, salsa, etc), frozen pre-portioned items (homemade or store-bought - lasagne, chili, burger patties), things you can portion with one hand out of a box or bag (chips, crackers, nuts, dried fruit, baby carrots, pre-sliced peppers, popcorn either pre-popped or microwaved), salad meals made out of the supermarket salad bar, bottled smoothies or supplement drinks like ensure, bars (i like clif and power bar protein plus, for granola nature valley and kind...), rice cookers, and other "cheater" meals are really the best way to ensure your health and recovery. if paying for single-portion milk really offends you, my advice is to buy a gallon (or whatever size you prefer) and a big set of smallish mason jars. pour the milk (or juice, or seltzer, what have you) into mason jars right before the surgery. all you have to do is unscrew and drink up :)

              1. re: chartreauxx

                or buy parmalat - the milk in a box. it comes in a 3-pack of 8 oz boxes, and in resealable quarts.

            2. re: chartreauxx

              This evening I've been making a list of make ahead things that I can freeze that don't also need to be cut up. Turns out most of the things on my list are comfort food things that my mom would have made growing up. Chicken casserole, meatloaf, and such. The idea of comfort food sounds... well, comforting!

              I plan to do the rice cooker a lot, too, with fish and or veg in the steamer basket. I also have a Nutribullet that I can use to make healthy smoothies. From what I hear, fiber will be my friend.

              1. re: Leepa

                yes, general anesthesia and opiate pain killers have a common side effect of slowing smooth muscle movement in the gut...which is a nice way of saying *ahem* you're going to be less than regular. yogurt also highly recommended.

                1. re: chartreauxx

                  Yes, after the recent hip replacement the hospital gave me a "brown bomber" to deal with the after affects. I had a ruptured Achilles two years ago, lots of sandwiches and pancakes and bacon for hot food, cooking in a chair. Crutches for 6 weeks suck. The hip was ok, I used a walker. Knee replacement coming soon. Advice to OP, you will adapt and it will all be over before you know it, at least you can walk.

                2. re: Leepa

                  I also love breakfast for dinner. Eggs any way you like and whatever meat you like. Or none at all.

                  1. re: c oliver

                    add toast and juice or milk to really round out your food groups. protein is key, and starches prevent your healing protein from getting poached by the body for basic energy.

                  2. re: Leepa

                    So, if you are a cereal eater, that will solve a lot of small summertime meal problems as no cooking is necessary. And it sounds as if All-Bran might be a good idea. Get some nice berries to go on it.

                    1. re: Querencia

                      I'm not big on cereal usually, but I do have a recipe for All-Bran muffins that is really good. I used to make them for my dad when he was on chemo. Bless his generous heart, he always shared them with his visiting friends. I told him he might want to warn them. LOL

                      My plan is to make a dozen or so of those for the freezer, too.

              2. I went through the same thing a few years back (arthroscopic shoulder reconstruction on dominant side) and learned a few things. As far as food goes, food on a fork is easier to maneuver than a thin liquid on a spoon. If you want soup, get a big mug with a big handle that you can put your whole hand through to drink. It's surprisingly difficult to eat with the non-dominant hand- very wobbly at first. If you get stuff from TJ's, open a couple and transfer to microwaveable containers that you can open with one hand- for the first week or two, multi- layered packaging is hard. Pre-chop anything you think you might need for the first few weeks.

                Other non-food things to think about: putting on socks is difficult- low cut socks are easier. Tying shoelaces is almost impossible, make sure you have slip on shoes and get some "elastic laces" for athletic shoes so you can slip them on. If you're a woman, have some front-hook bras- I had a front zip sports bra that was great. Also hair washing, blow drying, and brushing were... interesting. It took me 3 weeks to figure out how to put my hair in a ponytail- I mostly used headbands to keep my hair out of my face.

                The recovery is really not that bad- I was feeling pretty good within 4 or 5 days and was back at the gym within a week or so (elliptical or recumbent bike). The sling was annoying at first but I was able to use my hand a bit (rotating wrist and elbow only) after a week or so. And I also discovered that could stash snacks in my sling, which was pretty awesome.

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                1. re: chococat

                  Thanks. It's a good thing I have short hair and it's even shorter as of a couple of days ago - the old wash and wear haircut. Most of the clothing things I'm working on having read a few blogs out there with suggestions, but I appreciate the ideas. If I'm not out in the world, I'll be wearing my short sleeve zip front bathrobe (just bought a spare!)

                  Good to hear about the recovery. I really am hoping I do as well as that. Having made it to 61 without any major injuries or surgery, I'm just a bit freaked out about it all.

                  1. re: chococat

                    I've had two sprained shoulders I'm recovering from for the last half year - left arm is nearly to normal mobility, right one is not. I still can't do up a bra, front or back. I don't bother unless I'm going out (the husband and I work from home), but when I do, he has to do it up for me. And I can't tie my long hair back, either - he has to do that, too. I comb with my left hand (I'm right handed) and he ties it back.

                    Shampoo... I diluted my shampoo in a yoghurt container and threw it at my head for a while. Didn't do a great job, but it was passable.

                    1. re: chococat

                      I broke my non-dominant hand last year, and found that shoes were definitely a challenge. I had one pair of elasticated ballet flats, and bought two more pairs, enough to get me through. (I was working full-time during surgery, PT, etc., except for about a week off at surgery.) Normally I am anti- the elastic waist, but it too was a God-send. It was winter, so I bought a bunch of knee-hi tights to wear instead of the usual full-length ones, which were impossible to maneuver.

                      It sounds like you're thinking about the things you'll really want to eat (the comfort foods), which I think is a great idea. I tried to make things as nice as I could, because I know that is what will keep my spirits up.

                      My situation was different due to non-dominant hand and a brace I could wear on my other hand that would support it so it could assist with various tasks, but I found there was a way I could do what I needed to do ... but I was much slower than usual. You have to be patient with yourself. I also became a pretty good one-handed typist ;)

                      Good luck! :)

                      PS Oh! If you don't already have it this way, be sure to change your profile at the pharmacy to non-childproof caps. If you already have some for prescriptions you take regularly, on at least some caps there's a way to push the center of the cap to break them so they become screw-off.

                    2. Don't have anything heavy that you have to lift---if you usually buy milk by the gallon or half-gallon, for a while, get it in quarts and if you drink iced tea, figure out how to manage it in small quantities. You might want to put some laundry detergent and bleach in smaller containers for post-surgery use.

                      Anything cooking equipment that you expect to use a lot, put where it is handy and you don't have to climb a ladder or lift out a bunch of other pans to get at it. TJ sounds fine---they have an infinity of frozen entrees. Also, plain baked potatoes and sweet potatoes and plain chicken quarters require nothing but plain baking. Dishwashing: a dishpan full of hot water and detergent lets you soak the dishes for an hour then give them a swish and rinse them off, which you can do one-handed. Also, my friends who have had this surgery could not sleep lying down and had to sleep semi-reclining on a lounge or in a recliner.

                      1. I broke a wrist several years ago, and had similar issues. I learned that packaged, chopped things were my friend. Trader Joe's has quite a few choices. I look at them normally and say "gee, how lazy do i have to be to buy chopped celery, carrots and onion?" Well....now it's a guilt free choice. I found I could do a stir fry or pasta sauce when everything is chopped and ready to go. I did pasta too....and instead of draining the pasta and adding it to the sauce.....i just used tongs and put the pasta directly into the sauce. So....rather than saving some pasta water and adding it...I was actually transferring the water with the pasta. Same difference. I also got really good opening bottles of wine with a waiter's corkscrew!

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                        1. re: perk

                          I was surprisingly adept at opening wine with my left (non dominant) hand while casted for a R wrist fx.

                          There was a will, so there was a way!

                          1. re: monavano

                            Screw top and a nut cracker are your friend :)

                            1. re: c oliver

                              Screw tops are much more prevalent now.
                              Hmm.. I could have done the box.

                              1. re: monavano

                                We've even found Scotch and vodka in boxes!!!

                        2. First time I read the thread title I read it: Pork Shoulder Surgery Meals. ~ I laughed at myself! :) ~~ Soooo maybe cook a pork shoulder, pull it, freeze in portions for sandwiches. Not very creative, but delicious!!

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                            1. re: Uncle Bob

                              I read Poet Shoulder Surgery Needs... and I was certainly intrigued! Best wishes to the OP and grins to Uncle Bob--another misreader.

                              1. re: miss louella

                                I tried to come up with another title for the thread. Post-surgery shoulder meals... might have been about BBQ. Post-shoulder surgery meals... could have been about prepping meat. I left out the hyphen which has led to the confusion, I think. I should have made it.... what to cook and eat with one hand? :)

                                Thanks for the well wishes!

                              1. You mention in one of the replies that you're a seasoned-citizen. Check whether "meals on wheels" can add you for a few weeks -- quite affordable in most areas.

                                A pizza wheel works for cutting sandwiches, toast, soft fruits, cooked chicken strips.

                                Make sure essential paper products for kitchen & bath are accessable (not needing a reach, not in unopened bulk packaging). If you are freezing meals, remember that you won't be able to lift filled bins/tubs to quickly get at the lowest level of the freezer - stack thoughtfully.

                                You can practice now by putting your dominant hand in your pocket and learning what will be tough / impossible. When I injured my arm, surprisingly for me it was fairly easy to button clothing but snaps weren't happening.

                                1. Not about cooking, but eating -- Debbie Koenig's book "Parents Need to Eat Too" has a whole chapter on food you can eat one-handed (samosas, etc.).

                                  1. One thing that occurs to me - before the surgery, make sure you are stocked up on anything you use that is in jars or bottles (mustard, pickles, salad dressing, etc) and open all the new jars before hand. I'm not sure I could open a new pickle jar one handed with my non-dominant hand - two handed is often hard enough.

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                                    1. re: tastesgoodwhatisit

                                      Good idea. I was thinking of getting condiments in squirt bottles or maybe transferring what I have into them.

                                    2. Lots of good info already. You may also want to see about grocery delivery. As I mentioned previously, my mother came to stay with me for three weeks, but she wasn't a driver, and a couple of my local grocery stores offered free delivery and that was a godsend. I'm not sure how the recovery compares with arthroscopic vs. open surgery, but my recovery was pretty tough. I slept quite a lot thanks to pain killers, and during that time the one thing I truly craved was slices of manchego cheese on crostini, which I always enjoy, but even more so during that period. It's hard to know what you'll feel like eating when you're on medication.
                                      On a non-food related note, one thing they almost failed to mention to me was that I needed to shower with a rubber ball or something similar under my elbow to keep my arm positioned correctly when my sling was off. That took some trips to a few different toy stores to find something of just the right size. This was several years ago, so maybe now they have something better.
                                      Best of luck on your recovery!

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                                      1. re: gmm

                                        it's funny what you crave when you're sick and on medication, isn't it? when i fractured my spine and was housebound for a while....friends would come by and bring me meals. i'm not one to normally eat the same thing two days in a row....but i went through a period of several weeks when all i wanted for lunch was half a turkey sandwich, broccoli salad and watermelon for dessert. day after day. weird......

                                        1. re: perk

                                          Hip replacement three months ago, they had a refrigerator stocked with single serve Blue Bell homemade vanilla single serves just across the hall, at the hospital. Took me 6 weeks to shake the addiction. Blue Bell ice cream + hydrocodone = nirvana.

                                      2. I vote for the microwaveable, preportioned frozen approach.

                                        Think through the motions you'll need to prepare your food with your nondominant hand, and try it now to make sure it'll work. I can't imagine forming a burger and getting it out of a pan one-handed, or cutting up veggies. Also consider how you're going to sanitize your hands and everything else after you cook. .

                                        Having a pre-cooked chicken on hand is great, but can you break it down one-handed?

                                        boiled eggs should be do-able, pre-bagged salads as well, with bottled dressing [or at least made-ahead dressing.

                                        look to your grocery store's salad bar for some help, too. They often have cut up veggies that should make your life easier.

                                        hope your surgery goes well...

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                                        1. re: jiffypop

                                          Thanks! Yes, that's the way I think I'll go - with pre-made meals. I'd like to avoid microwaving if possible, so I've ordered some of those foil pans with cardboard lids that I can put in the smart oven. I've been practicing taking things out of it one-handed lately and its not all that difficult. Things always seem to stay hot longer when they're warmed up this way rather than in a microwave. I'll be a slow one-handed eater so warmer for longer will be good. Prepping five or six different entrees to portion out between now and then shouldn't be too difficult. I just need to clear out some freezer space to make room for them.

                                          Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions, concerns, and well wishes!

                                          1. re: jiffypop

                                            Jiffypop, do you have any suggestions regarding storage for the pre-cooked eggs. Obviously I'm not going to be able to peel them one-handed - peeling with two hands is enough of a challenge for me. How long do you think they would remain good, pre-peeled, in the fridge in a sealed up container?

                                            1. re: Leepa

                                              I've stored peeled eggs in a bowl of water for several days. No idea of the max time.

                                              1. re: Leepa

                                                Note that trader joes also sells peeled hard boiled eggs in their egg section sold in a zippy bag.

                                                1. re: Ttrockwood

                                                  I have noticed them at TJ's but have never bought them. When pre-cooked and peeled eggs started appearing in stores a few years ago, I bought a bag and found them to be rather rubbery. If TJ's eggs have a better texture, I'd be all over that.

                                                  I have a little egg cooker for the microwave that I thought I might drag out of the back of the cupboard and try again. I think I'd rather have a freshly cooked egg anyway though I do think I'll make up some egg salad for sandwiches and that will cover the first few days. My friend Lisa (at the Cutting Edge of Ordinary blog) makes the best egg spread for egg "salad" sandwiches. It makes rockin' sandwiches that don't fall apart when you try to eat them one handed. :) http://thecuttingedgeofordinary.blogs...

                                                  Edit to add egg cooker: http://genevievelethuchicago.blogspot...

                                            2. I would want a pair of trusty kitchen shears rather than a sharp knife to open things and even cut stuff up If you will be using your left hand maybe a pair of left handed scissors? My shears also have a grip for opening bottles etc. If you hold the bottle between your knees it should work. Here's what I have
                                              http://www.amazon.com/Wusthof-5558-1-...

                                              1. Not sure if someone mentioned this but pre make finger foods or hand held items. Using a fork with my non dominate hand would drive me nuts.

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                                                1. re: Siegal

                                                  I was surprised that I was pretty nimble with a fork using my non dom hand.
                                                  Writing, on the other hand, was a disaster.

                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                    Hope your robe has pockets. They are like an extra hand. They hold the can of soda, fork, napkin, etc.

                                                    Best of luck. I don't know you, but my thoughts are with you.

                                                    1. re: barbaract

                                                      Thanks, but this was many years ago.
                                                      I broke my right wrist and was casted from my knuckles to my shoulder.
                                                      Ugh, it was awful.
                                                      I was surprised at how well I could open wine. What came in handy was my feet!

                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                        I broke my hand playing football way back when and the first thing I tested was rolling up a smoke, no problema, what a relief.

                                                        1. re: barbaract

                                                          Thanks. I'd thought of that. Two new zip-front robes with pockets. Short sleeves, too. I plan to be in those most of the time unless I have to be out in the world. I also bought a smaller version of the fabric market bag with the metal handle to carry some larger things around. Like this but a tad smaller.

                                                          http://www.amazon.com/Threadart-Marke...

                                                          1. re: Leepa

                                                            I want to know where you got the short sleeved, zip front robes!

                                                              1. re: Leepa

                                                                Thank you!
                                                                I HATE long robe sleeves in the kitchen.

                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                    But I don't like terrycloth in the summer. I'll keep looking.

                                                                    1. re: c oliver

                                                                      It's not very heavy terry but I live in the mountains and it's cooler here than a lot of places.

                                                      2. I would pre-cook a lot of stuff... Maybe look into the freezer meals where they suggest cooking and freezing weeks of meals in 1 day. Get yourself a Foodsaver, that will help.

                                                        Oh as a former rotator cuff surgery patient, you might be surprised how much you can do with your arm in a sling. That being said, I have met others that had a real hard time.

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                                                        1. re: Hank Hanover

                                                          It's a good reminder to plan for the worst.

                                                          With a biceps repair, the restrictions can be more severe than a RC repair (as far as using the hand).

                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                            I have another pre-op appointment with my surgeon this Friday and I have a lot of questions to ask him such as how much hand mobility I'll have. I was so thrown on my last visit when I learned I would need surgery that I just didn't ask any effective questions. I have a lot more now!

                                                            1. re: Leepa

                                                              You are my favorite type of patient!

                                                              1. re: Leepa

                                                                So, yay. He says I should have some mobility in my hand and has given me a 2 lb. limit for that hand after the surgery. That's a relief. I should be able to manage.

                                                                Today was surgery follow-up day at his office. I was relieved to see people who had surgery two days ago come through the office not looking as if they'd been hit by a truck. Encouraging...

                                                                1. re: Leepa

                                                                  Great.
                                                                  You should be able to manipulate utensils and hold light objects to stabilize them.
                                                                  You'll be peeling eggs in no time!

                                                                  With good pain management meds, you shouldn't be feeling hit by a truck.
                                                                  Again, sleeping can be a bit difficult at first, but you'll find some way to make it work for you.

                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                    I made breakfast this morning left handed with my little microwave egg cooker. Even broke the egg and all. Practice practice practice!

                                                                    Thanks for your encouragement!

                                                            2. re: Hank Hanover

                                                              Thanks, Hank. I am doing a lot of cook-ahead meals and freezing them. I have a Foodsaver but haven't used it yet being a little concerned that I'll be able to open the bags easily - at least at first. What I have cooked ahead so far (with more to come this weekend) I have put in foil tray like containers with board tops where I can put it right in my convection oven to warm up. I can take it out pretty easily with one hand and let it cool a little bit before I try to open it. I think this will work pretty well.

                                                              1. re: Leepa

                                                                I'd stick with the pans and agree the FS could be problematic.

                                                            3. Good luck. I would have lots of smoothies. Yogurt and almond milk and fruit with protein powder should be manageable one armed. They work for breakfast and lunch. Oatmeal also pretty forgiving. Dinner I would eat lots of frozen burritos and hamburgers. A huge pot of rice and beans could be accomplished with one arm I suppose. Or chili.

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                                                              1. re: CCSPRINGS

                                                                I was able to move large pots, cast iron, etc. with the brace on my bad hand. If one hand is truly immobilized, though, I wouldn't even consider cooking a big pot of anything after surgery--only now for the freezer.

                                                              2. glad your surgery went well! my only caution to you at this point would be DON'T RUSH IT. i always struggle with that - even if the shoulder "feels" fine, best to play it safe and abide by the conservative end of your doctor's recommendations (weight of objects, etc). otherwise, you (like my friends who rushed ACL, shoulder, or hamstring recovery) may suffer a setback and be laid up longer overall.

                                                                keep on keepin' on and feel better soon!

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                                                                1. re: chartreauxx

                                                                  Sound advice. I had a hip replacement a little over three months ago, and if my doctor says don't do it, I don't do it. Time flies especially as we get older, but you'll be fine before you know it. However chartreauxx, I got brave at work carrying a too heavy box and almost tripped on a newly placed obstacle. Never again!!!!

                                                                  1. re: chartreauxx

                                                                    Good advice. Like James C., I'm also 3 months post-surgery (2nd total knee replacement), and the good P.T.'s lesson on "microtears" got my attention: some movements may cause only minor pain, but can worsen/slow recovery. So far, I'm doing great, but ask the P.T. and MD lots of questions about proper body mechanics.

                                                                  2. I feel for you. I had an impinged rotator cuff and a torn biceps. Because the surgeon had to reattach the biceps, the only reason I was allowed outdoors was to go the p.t.. The toughest part was sleeping. I ended up sleeping sitting in a chair for 6 weeks. Also as far as clothing, I wore 3x dress shirts and tee shirts so that I could keep my arm underneath.

                                                                    No as for the food, I really wasn't hungry for the first month but you will need to have prepared foods ready to stick into the microwave. Good luck.

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                                                                    1. re: jnk

                                                                      I was trying to figure out the advantage of wearing three shirts at once, now I get it :D

                                                                      I think someone alluded to this upthread, but after surgery it is important to make sure your digestive system gets moving again, otherwise you can end up nauseated (happened to me last time). I like to use an herbal formula for this, which I find much gentler than the usual drugstore offerings.

                                                                    2. checking in...all went well. all of your suggestions have been really helpful. i really appreciate them all. i'm managing well on my own which is what i really hoped for. so thanks again. i really do appreciate it.

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                                                                      1. re: Leepa

                                                                        thanks for the update. glad you're doing ok. it's interesting how we can figure out how to get it done. takes a village.....

                                                                      2. two things that i've found to be very helpful are a small non-skid tray and bag clips. i bought the tray on amazon, unfinished, and spray painted it then stapled a non slip pad on the bottom and cut one to fit inside. whatever i put in there doesn't slide and doesn't move on the counter either. the other thing is very minor, but bag clips are really handy. twist ties and tabs aren't happening for me.

                                                                         
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                                                                        1. re: Leepa

                                                                          I have similar non-skid pads that I use in my bathrooms near the bath/shower and in the kitchen under things that are inclined to move. They're quite handy.