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Fuddruckers Santa Monica (Again)

Looks like a Fuddruckers is opening in Santa Monica at 2002 Wilshire. It's a crappy chain burger joint with a free-for-all toppings bar and pump-your-own cheesy sauce, but I grew up near one and completely love it. Fuddruckers is taking over the Koo Koo Roo space, which, oddly enough, took over an old Fuddruckers.

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  1. Let me guess where thats at the old Koo Roo Location.

    The reason is because I think they combined the two at a few locations.

    I kind of like the AYCE salad bar so that I may load up on the tomatoes.

    When's it opening ???? And thanks for the heads up.

    Though I thought it was a dying breed.

    1. sorry, didn't read the rest of your post.

      so fuddrucker's begets koi roo too and then koo koo roo begets fuddruckers ?????????

      btw, i think that was the last remaining KKR in LA ????

      is that correct ?

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        1. re: kevin

          Are Koo Koo Roo and Fuddruckers owned by the same people?

          No clue when it's opening. Walked by the other day and the Fuddruckers sign is already up outside, construction is happening inside, and there was a "Fuddruckers Coming Soon" board in the doorway.

          The last time I ate at a Fuddruckers, I made a side "salad" out of toppings. It was pretty disgusting/ awesome.

          1. re: phamschottler

            I believe there's some ownership interconnection or affiliation, or joint venture, or whatever they call it these days.

            1. re: kevin

              Yes there has been for a bunch of years when the original founders of KKR, not the investment firm, divested of the chain. Fuddy's still operates units in Sherman Oaks, Lakewood & Burbank, with SM to be the 4th open unit in the greater LA area.
              Sure hope they have ditched that wood crate décor package, however.

              1. re: carter

                There's been a Fuddrucker's in Lake Forest (OC) for at least 25 years. I haven't eaten there in 15+, but it used to have one of the better burgers available in the 'pre-gourmet' days. Large patty, cooked to order, good basic topping selection.

                1. re: Midlife

                  That is well outside my idea of LA, meaning it might be a suburb of Mission Viejo, or worse yet, San Diego!!!

                  1. re: carter

                    "Worse yet"????? Maybe for deli, pizza, ethnic cuisine, but not burgers really.

                    1. re: Midlife

                      Meaning you would drive to San Diego for a burger?
                      Options abound here, so why go?

                      1. re: carter

                        I must have missed your point. No clue then.

                        1. re: Midlife

                          Upon reflection.............. I thought you were disparaging Mission Viejo and environs as a food source (pretty easy to do). If you were just speaking of distance, I apologize. We have several really good burger sources in South OC. Doesn't come close to making up for the lack of good delis, pizza, and quality cuisines beyond the basic handful.

                          OTOH, every time I get stuck in LA traffic I find myself saying "I could never live here again!".

                2. re: carter

                  There's a Fuddrucker's in Ontario, CA as well...

              2. re: phamschottler

                I like it too.

                There used to be one in the CC Mall for a few years.

                Which fuddrucker's did you grow up with ?????

                I thought it was a relatively newish chain (by new I mean the past 15 to 20 years or so).

                1. re: kevin

                  I lived near the Long Beach (technically Lakewood) one.

                  The CC one was a small food court version. I much prefer the whole restaurants. I think the Sherman Oaks Galleria has an actual Fuddruckers.

                  My favorite one is on Beach Blvd kinda near Knotts Berry Farm.

                  1. re: phamschottler

                    they do have one at the sherman oaks galleria.

                    i'll hit it up with a movie next time.

                    ok, everyone you can revoke my ch street creed now.

                    what's great about the beach bleed one ???? huge arcade, killer ice cream sundaes, for some reason the more lavish ones sound a little like the Farrell's Ice Cream Parlour of my youth.

                    1. re: kevin

                      The food at the Beach Blvd one was more consistent and actually kinda good.

                      1. re: kevin

                        I remember when Farrell's was the loudest eat place in LA

                        1. re: kevin

                          Kevin, dont you mean, Pharrel's Ice Cream Parlor!

                    2. re: phamschottler

                      I'm relieved to find other people who can find the same foods both disgusting and awesome :)

                      1. re: running pig

                        beyond disgusting and yet curiously addictive.

                        no joke.

                  2. Am I the only one who actually liked the Koo Koo Roo chain, and will miss them? I know we now have California Chicken Cafe on the Westside, but I always found KKR to be a good reliable easy-in/easy-out stop for comfort food.

                    I especially liked the one on Main St in Venice in the Scary Clown building...it's now a less-than-optimal CVS (one of the downsized CVS' that seems to have everything you don't need, and nothing you DO need).

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                    1. re: spoonlicker

                      I had forgotten there wa a KKR in the crazy clown in a tutu building.

                      Pharmacies and banks are definitely taking over almost everywhere.

                      No joke.

                      I liked KKR too.

                      Mac n cheese, and their roast turkey sandwich.

                      Oh, well, I think someone mentioned that they're aren't any in LA any longer.

                      1. re: kevin

                        Their hand carved fresh turkey was really good.

                        1. re: wienermobile

                          I thought so too.

                          But I'm thinking I'd get shit for liking it. :)

                        2. re: kevin

                          You are so right about banks taking over. Downtown Santa Monica has become absolutely infested with them in recent years, including multiple branches of the same bank within a few blocks of each other. It's freaky.

                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives


                              I won't be surprised if we start seeing combination Starbucks (shudder) / Bank of America (double shudder) branches.

                              1. re: spoonlicker

                                Your dream (or nightmare) has come true...

                            2. re: spoonlicker

                              It's the same on the eastside. We always joke in Pasadena when we see some new construction that it's going to be a bank or a church. We're holding out for the First Banking Church of Bank.

                          1. re: spoonlicker

                            yes. their hot sauce is/was crack.

                            1. re: spoonlicker

                              I remember the original Koo Koo Roo on 6th/Kenmore. When it was under the original owner, I liked it a lot. I'd get the original chicken with diced cucumbers and tomatoes. The original location was destroyed in the 1992 riots, after that Koo Koo Roo was never the same.

                            2. I have been to Fuddruckers and was never impressed. All the other build-your-own-burger places have been far better than Fuddruckers. Anyone remember Flakey Jake's at the N/W corner of Pico & Sepulveda? Nice place with good food and it always seemed full or nearly full every time I was there. I never understood why it closed.

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                              1. re: Sam D.

                                Shop at Adray's and eat at Flakey Jakes...

                                1. re: Sam D.

                                  I used to love flakey jake's. I'd go all the time on my lunch break.

                                  1. re: Sam D.

                                    Yes, I do remember the Flakey Jake's at Pico/Sepulveda. Very good burgers and steak sandwiches. I think it was forced to close when the chain went into bankruptcy.

                                    1. re: JosephEBacon

                                      Does anyone remember a joint named Burger Hills ?????

                                      That reminded me slightly of Flakey Jake's et al.

                                    2. re: Sam D.

                                      going back many years ,i thought the choice of burger places in L.A. was awesome. My brother had moved out there (i'm still on the east coast) and thought fuddruckers and (yes) flakey jakes along with fat burger were the greatest.didn't know in n 'out back then. still wish more affordable joints would survive on the east coast. Just read of a local truck (here) selling $12.00 burgers- insane for a truck

                                    3. Lucky. If it like one I had here when I was little I wouldn't consider it crapy. Other then fake cheese. They had there own butchers and bakery in house.

                                      1. It's gross for sure but gimme that melted "cheese" ... yummm

                                          1. re: SmilingSue

                                            No word yet, but there are arcade games, a claw machine, and chairs inside. And I think they are already staffing jobs. So pretty soon!

                                            1. re: phamschottler

                                              They also have their health dept grade on the window. So they had their final inspection.

                                                1. re: chrishei

                                                  I'm there! I think the one and only Fuddrucker's I've ever been to was in Pasadena....

                                                  1. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                    There is one in Sherman Oaks and it's not very good...

                                                      1. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                        There's one in Burbank. Not bad, though I always go a bit nuts on the pickles and Coke Freestyle machine.

                                                        1. re: gr8pimpin

                                                          Fuddruckers SM will open next week, according to the one guy sitting inside this afternoon. Date undecided.

                                                          1. re: phamschottler

                                                            Awesome! Thanks for the tip. I can walk there in less than 10 minutes and since I can walk and burn a few cals I can afford 1 extra jalapeño nacho cheese pump on the fries :-)

                                                            1. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                              It's one of those machines where you can make a ton of different variations of all the Coke products coming from one spout.... Its digital and very cool. My kids love it.

                                                              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                Oh, that's like the one at 800 Deg! I love it!

                                                              2. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                                Just like Dirtywextraolives said. Like if you want a Ginger Ale you can make regular, lime, orange, peach or any combo. Pretty nifty.

                                                          1. re: phamschottler

                                                            Yeah. Love those soda machines but this is a tasty sip here

                                                            1. re: phamschottler

                                                              but there's no money there ?????

                                                              am i missing something here ?????????

                                                            2. re: wienermobile

                                                              That's just naaaaaaasty (and we like nasty).

                                                              Am I to take it that Fudddddrucker's offers self-serve Cheese Product on tap?

                                                              I am so there.

                                                              1. re: spoonlicker

                                                                Yep, Leaded (jalapeño) or unleaded (regular).

                                                                Plus you can make a side salad with the condiment bar. I fill up on pickles (they have sweet and dill).

                                                                  1. re: gr8pimpin

                                                                    Well then! I will just have make myself a ladylike little side salad of a mound of dill pickles topped with cheese goo to go with my wild boar burger. Dainty.

                                                                  2. re: spoonlicker

                                                                    does your cheetos puffs with that shit and you're good to go.

                                                                  3. re: wienermobile

                                                                    Wiener, are those your digits ??????????? :)

                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                      I wish…KEVIN welcome back you have been missed….

                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                        thanks man.

                                                                        whose digits where those ?????

                                                                        must have been a hot fingers model, right ?????????

                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                          Did you know you've used over a hundred question marks in the half hour since you've been back????????

                                                                          1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                            my bad, is that good or bad ?????????

                                                                            i'm thinking bad.

                                                                            1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                              So what??? Question marks for everybody!!

                                                                              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                As we've discussed b/f, it's not just the quantity of the question marks, but (mis)spacing, as well. ;) ::snort::

                                                                                Welcome back, kevin!

                                                                                1. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                                                  what's a few extra ?????????? amongst friends.

                                                                                  paranoid garlic lover, you're moniker doesn't seem to ring the proverbial bell, but thanks anyhow.

                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                    My handle used to be "ilysla" until I changed it ~2 wks ago to something that's easier to read. ;)

                                                                                    1. re: paranoidgarliclover

                                                                                      i see.

                                                                                      my dyslexia always seem to construe it as a variation of Lysa or Lisa.

                                                                      2. re: wienermobile

                                                                        and that might just be the sexiest, most carnal, sensual photo iv'e seen ally day.

                                                                        Winer, you have outdone yourself.

                                                                      3. Saw from a tweet yesterday that this location won't open until the Fall. Um, what?

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                                                                        1. re: phamschottler

                                                                          Does it take 2 months to train? Can't imagine why. They are completely set up, even have their Health Dept "A" (which is probably easy to get when you don't have any food that can spoil) posted on the window.

                                                                          Wonder what's up!! I need my liquid cheese!!

                                                                            1. re: bemypambeesly

                                                                              I just found it:


                                                                              "@fuddruckers: @nickwiger No date yet but we still plan on opening that location this fall! Thanks for asking!"

                                                                            2. i drove by last night and it sure looked like it's going to be open for business soon.

                                                                              arcade games in there, tables, chairs, banners, etc everything set up to go.

                                                                              but who knows ….

                                                                              unless they're dealing with getting the proper alcohol license with the ABC ?????

                                                                              Did Koo Koo Roo in the space before serve drinks, ??????????????????????

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                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                I don't think so..... But I think I recall the fuddruckers serving beer, but it could be a fuzzy memory....

                                                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                  ok, yeah… i can't really remember if they served beer and wine at koo koo too, but i'm 100% they didn't have a full bar.

                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                    No booze at Koo Koo Roo, but beer and wine at Fuddruckers. This Fudds has been looking finished for a couple weeks now, so I'm guessing there's a liquor license issue delaying them.

                                                                              2. Cheez Wiz + fast food burger=Fudddruckers

                                                                                1. Well, as of yesterday, when I drove by the location on Wilshire and 20th Street, it was looking like all they had to do was open their doors, but no one was home...who knows when they will open, and how bad it is to miss summer time in Santa Monica, for a launch of a "fast food" restaurant. Whatever.

                                                                                  I remember a full location in my home town, Simi Valley, in the mid-late 80s. It had the meat hanging in a full-view walk-in fridge, butcher next door, in full-view, and then the grill in view right behind the registers. That location closed in less than 5 years if I remember right. Again, always seemed popular, but maybe just poor managing of that location, and not enough profits.

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                                                                                  1. re: Chicky24

                                                                                    The SM location has been in that state, as you saw yesterday, for at least 5 weeks. I pass by it almost daily.