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June 2014 COTM - My Paris Kitchen: Appetizers (Mis-en bouche)

delys77 Jun 1, 2014 10:14 AM

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Appetizers (Mis-en-bouche)

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    lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 2, 2014 02:49 PM

    Mise en bouche or Mises en bouche (plural) from mettre en bouche.

    Oh, those little nibbles!

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    1. re: lagatta
      delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 2, 2014 04:01 PM

      Yeah I noted that the gender in the book was incorrect, but decided to enter it as listed. There are actually a lot of French errors in the book. That said he gets kudos for doing his best right.

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        lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 2, 2014 05:05 PM

        I love David and his blog, but no. There are several of us who would have corrected the most egregious errors not for professional rates, but for a nice meal or some yummy baked goods.

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          MelMM RE: delys77 Jun 2, 2014 06:19 PM

          The funny thing about this book is that reading it, I felt like he was using French phrases wherever he could throw them in, which seemed odd for a book that would naturally be aimed at an English-speaking audience. It seemed kind of showoffish, if that makes any sense. And if you are going to do that, you darn well better get it right.

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            lagatta RE: MelMM Jun 2, 2014 06:55 PM

            Well, often there isn't an exact equivalent. But I don't understand why he didn't have a francophone friend read it over, and why his editor didn't do so. That isn't David's fault, it is the editor's.

            I want to emphasize again how much I like his blog (though it is sweets-centric, andI avoid sweets) and I don't like picking at other writers.

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              delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 2, 2014 08:06 PM

              Yeah the book is about food, if there is the odd error in French so be it.

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                lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 3, 2014 05:50 AM

                That is no reason to excuse poor editing.

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                  delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 3, 2014 06:09 PM

                  Can't say I agree if we are just talking about issues with the French. If there are inconsistencies in the recipes that's different, but if he says le cuisine du marché instead of la cuisine (as he does in the intro) I'm not going to get hung up on it. It would doubtless have been better to have an editor with a keener eye, but does it matter, not really.

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                    lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 3, 2014 06:45 PM

                    Well, I work in that field, and I do think it matters very much. Translators, editors, and the like are a bit anal, I know, but so are good cooks - and surgeons.

                    I know that it is a book in English, but it is set in Paris and David uses a lot of French phrases. They should be corrected, just as the English prose should be. It is not David's responsibility - he is an engaging and charming writer, but all writers need a good edit, even in their mother tongue.

                    Every time I see the thread title, I wince. I was thinking of buying it as I very much like his writing (and his blog) and I saw it at the cookbook shop at LE Marché Jean-Talon, LA Librairie gourmande, but "le cuisine" would make me hurl it out my Montréal fenêtre.

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                      dkennedy RE: lagatta Jun 3, 2014 06:50 PM

                      Maybe the errors in grammar are intentional? He mentions in the narrative, I forgot where, that when he began blogging he was forever being corrected for this and that by people who wrote in. Maybe the errors are a "nod" to that learning experience and that it went hand in hand with the formation of this book.

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                        delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 3, 2014 07:11 PM

                        There in lies the difference, I don't work in the field of food writing or publishing therefore I have little trouble overlooking errors that don't detract from the books purpose, which is to instruct me on how to prepare certain dishes.
                        As a person who's entire family, on both sides, is from the Lac-St-Jean region of Québec and who has spent his entire academic and professional life in a bilingual environment I don't fret too much when an anglophone makes an error in French or a francophone makes one in English. If I did I would find myself tossing many's the person, book, email etc. out the nearest fenêtre.

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                          lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 3, 2014 07:39 PM

                          I don't fret at all if laypersons make errors. This is a professional matter, not a question of rudely taking the "man (or woman) in the street" to task for linguistic errors.

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                            delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 3, 2014 08:45 PM

                            Fair enough

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                            lilham RE: delys77 Jun 4, 2014 12:37 AM

                            I think it may also be how familiar you are with the language? I can see lagatta point of view. How hard is it to find a french speaker to read through the manuscript and correct the most obvious errors, like the chapter title?

                            I think similarly with Fuchsia Dunlop, some of the names she chose for dishes are a bit dubious. However, she doesn't go around using chinese phrases liberally within the text. And I think it must be much harder to find a bilingual chinese/english translator in the UK, then a french/english one. I don't complain about, but I can't help but feel a bit meh by it. (For example, I won't use the chinese name of the dish if they sound wrong or clumsy).

                            Edit: In contrast, Grace Young used quite a bit of chinese in the text of her book. But her usage and explanations are correct.

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                              delys77 RE: lilham Jun 4, 2014 09:34 AM

                              True, I think it would be far better to have things edited correctly, but I don't feel as strongly as Lagatta does that it detracts from the work. In the same line as your reasoning above I'm continuously presented with oddly translated Chinese on products I buy. I don't speak or read Chinese so I have to rely on the English translation of the product name on the bottle and figure out if the product I'm holding is in fact the correct one. This is less than ideal and in fact might prevent me from executing the recipe, but I take it in stride and use some deductive reasoning, them move on.

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                                lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 4, 2014 05:58 PM

                                Delya, isn't that because I work in this field? For me it is very important that a contract be done professionally, and to find someone who can adequately translate, edit or correct. It is a matter of pride.

                                I know that this won't have the dire consequences a mistranslation or sloppy edit of a medical text or a peace treaty might, but the same care must be given, even in "life and style" pieces.

                                Actually, the gross mistranslations of Chinese goods could cause problems, and I'm sure the same befall Chinese consumers of Western products. Some of these translations are then translated into other Western languages, for example "laver aimable bicyclette" (wash gentle cycle). And I'm sure Chinese translations get retranslated throughout much of Asia.

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                                  delys77 RE: lagatta Jun 4, 2014 09:53 PM

                                  I'm sure it is, your standards are doubtless different because of your profession, and I can respect that.

                                  Trust me I have been on the receiving end of customer complaints because of mis-translation. Just a few months ago someone in our web design group used google to translate a webpage where "parts and labour" got translated as "pièce et accouchement". In other words google translate thought we meant labour as in "give birth".

                                  Doubtless incorrect, but after I was done explaining to the client, I hung up the phone and had a good chuckle. That said, I didn't make the mistake and I'm not a translator.

                                  By the way all, we Canadians are often used to very long linguistic discussions given the demographic nature of our population, my apologies if this little aside has annoyed any of you. Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs!

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                                    lagatta RE: delys77 Jun 5, 2014 05:11 AM

                                    "Pièce et accouchement" is a classic!

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                            The Dairy Queen RE: lagatta Jun 4, 2014 03:22 AM

                            How ghastly to be let down by your editor this way. I'd be angry if I were him. (If, indeed, he is even aware).


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              dkennedy RE: delys77 Jun 3, 2014 05:47 AM

              Sardine Spread, p. 78
              Rillettes de Sardines

              Oh David, if only you and I lived closer. Or, if only I had friends who loved to sit down over bowl of caper berries, a glass of Lillet, and a jar of this rillette. I love, love love rillettes of all kinds so when I saw a rillette made from a can of sardines, I had to try it. Note that this recipe makes a lot of rillette. I halved the recipe and it still made enough to generously fill a glass canning jar, (the kind with the hinged lid). Since it only holds in the fridge for 4 days, I ended up throwing out all the leftovers which seems like a waste since we all enjoyed it.

              In terms of the recipe, it is nothing more than cream cheese, butter, canned sardines and some seasonings (scallions, capers, lime juice, s and p, cayenne).

              Pros: very quick to prepare and sardines are incredibly good for you, even the canned version.

              Cons: tasted overwhelmingly of sardines. I think next time I might opt for a can of smoked trout instead.

              Other things to note: serve it after it has been brought to room temperature so it maintains a spreadable consistence. I liked this better the second day so I would say the flavors need some time to marry. While I didn’t love this recipe, it was really well suited for when you need something to go with a cocktail and I would recommend it using canned smoked trout.

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              1. re: dkennedy
                LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 06:15 AM

                I wish I lived closer, I'd have been there in an instant for the caper berries, Lillet and sardine rillettes. Sounds good to me.

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                  lagatta RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 06:20 AM

                  I love sardines. Some have a more delicate flavour than others (you can get great ones in France). But smoked trout would work well too.

                  Definitely going to make this.

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                    LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 06:51 AM

                    Not sure if this was on Delys's original (and very impressive) list of recipes or not, but here it is in case it isn't: http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2009/07/...

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                      dkennedy RE: LulusMom Jun 3, 2014 06:53 AM

                      Wished you lived closer too - I'd like to think we would be good friends!

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                        JoanN RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 06:55 AM

                        PERFECT! auto-correct typo! One for the ages.

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                          LulusMom RE: JoanN Jun 3, 2014 07:08 AM

                          Oh my ... JoanN, I wouldn't have even noticed that without your comment. Fantastic.

                          And yes, dk, I like to think so too.

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                            dkennedy RE: JoanN Jun 3, 2014 07:21 AM

                            I'm mortified! But I corrected it.

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                              LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 07:25 AM

                              Don't be!

                              Once, I was hiking in Spain and after a long day on my feet had finally washed my clothes and had my shower and was sitting in a courtyard having a beer. I had my phone and typed to a friend "I am sitting here under sunny blue skies looking up at a castle on a hill on one side and a beautiful old couch on the other." It was, of course, a church. But I'm still amused at the idea that she could have thought I was impressed by some musty old couch sitting outside in the Spanish countryside.

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                                The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 07:58 AM

                                Darn missed the mortifying moment, whatever it was. I wish we all lived closer, darnit!


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                                  dkennedy RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 5, 2014 02:00 PM

                                  First one of us to win the lottery needs to buy a cooking cabin in some beautiful retreat area so we can have weekly COTM retreats.

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                          The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Jun 3, 2014 07:59 AM

                          Let us know if you try it with smoked trout! We get a ton of that here in MN!


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                            dkennedy RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 3, 2014 06:50 PM

                            will do!

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                            MelMM RE: dkennedy Jun 9, 2014 01:11 PM

                            Sardine Spread

                            Good stuff, this. DK has already described the minimal ingredients involved. I used lemon juice instead of lime (both are given as options). Ate with crackers.

                            I didn't feel it was overwhelmingly sardine-y. It may just depend upon your sardines. Or it may be that I've always liked sardines. Mine were fairly large and already boneless, so I could skip the step of pulling out the bones. The spread was incredibly easy, and we enjoyed it quite a bit.

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                            MelMM RE: delys77 Jun 4, 2014 09:16 AM

                            Spiced Meatballs with Sriracha Sauce (iPad ed.)

                            Who can resist a meatball? Not me, so this recipe leapt out at me as the first thing I wanted to try from this book. Lebovitz is calling this "merguez meatballs", and they do come out rather sausage-like in taste. The seasoning is a blend of fennel, coriander, and cumin seeds, which are toasted and ground, making the kitchen smell wonderful. These are supplemented with cilantro, garlic, sweet paprika, harissa or sriracha (I used harissa), salt, cinnamon, allspice, and sumac. All these seasonings are mixed with ground beef or lamb (I used beef), and formed into small meatballs. Several cooking options are given - I went with the option to bake in the oven for 15 minutes.

                            The sauce with the recipe is a sriracha mayonnaise, but there is a variation for a "cooling yogurt-tahini sauce", which is what I made. My thinking being that the sriracha sauce would be repeating the flavors in the meatballs, whereas the yogurt-tahini sauce would contrast.

                            The flavor of the meatballs was nice, but there were a bit salty for my taste (I used the amount of kosher salt called for). I was also using grass-fed beef, so even though he said not to use lean beef, it was pretty lean. That, and the fact that I had to hold the meatballs for longer than expected because Mr. MM was running late, all conspired to make these a bit overcooked and tough. That's not the recipe's fault however.

                            I would make these again, probably use lamb next time, and a bit less salt. I liked the tahini-yogurt sauce with the meatballs, and would probably use that option again, or a similar yogurt-based sauce.

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                              Sfspicegirl RE: MelMM Jun 10, 2014 03:39 PM

                              Thanks for the review-- I just did the spice combination with a mix of ground turkey and beef to stuff into peppers for dinner tonight--

                              Its on the stove and the house smells amazing-- i added some canned tomato to it--

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                                nomadchowwoman RE: MelMM Jun 21, 2014 09:00 PM

                                Spiced Meatballs with Sriracha Sauce, p. 74

                                I made a half-recipe, with lamb (harissa in the meat mixture), and opted to sauté them in a non-stick pan. The one I tasted, fresh out of the pan, was juicy and delicious, but like MelMM, I had to hold the others (in a warm oven) so they were a bit dried out upon serving.

                                Mayo fiend that I am, I served them with the sriracha mayo (what looks like mustard in my photo).

                                We enjoyed these very much, loved the spices, and, yes, they are very merguez-ish. Although they haven't supplanted my favorite lamb meatballs, they're much easier so there's a good chance I will revisit this recipe.

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                                  delys77 RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 21, 2014 09:20 PM

                                  What's your favourite if you don't mind me asking NMC.

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                                    nomadchowwoman RE: delys77 Jun 22, 2014 08:38 AM

                                    Not at all. These:


                                    I made these with the recipe-stipulated turkey once, and they were very good, but with lamb they are divine so it has been lamb ever since. But all the chopping of raisins and pine nuts (and they really need to be chopped finely or the meatballs fall apart) is a PITB. The last time I made these I subbed pistachios for the pine nuts and, while still requiring fine chopping, they were just as good as the pine nuts in these meatballs.

                                    A few years ago, I once brought these to a dinner at the home of some friends who often host casual get-togethers. Now every time they ask us over, the host asks me to bring these--and then adds how much his teenage daughter loves them. So they've become something of a curse. (And, wow, do those folks know how to play me.)

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                                      delys77 RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 22, 2014 11:16 AM

                                      Oh wow those look delicious, I'm sure the lamb is an excellent choice.

                                2. re: MelMM
                                  Westminstress RE: MelMM Jun 22, 2014 08:27 PM

                                  Would you (or someone) mind paraphrasing this one? I had to return my library copy of this book. I have 10 oz ground lamb in freezer in need of a good use.

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                                    JoanN RE: Westminstress Jun 23, 2014 06:28 AM

                                    Here's a link to it from Google's Inside the Book feature:


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                                    Gio RE: MelMM Jun 29, 2014 07:45 AM

                                    Spiced Meatballs with Sriracha Sauce, Pg. 74

                                    We made these last night But... served them as burgers in a delicious bakery soft roll (Iggy's in Boston), with a lettuce leaf, and Sriracha (TJ's) mayo as the condiment. A pound of ground lamb made four burgers. I reduced the salt to 1/2 teaspoon. Perfect. Loved every exotic bite. A tossed salad was the only accompaniment. There's a pound of ground dark meat turkey just waiting in the freezer to experience the joy of the spice mixture.

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                                    MelMM RE: delys77 Jun 5, 2014 01:53 PM

                                    Beet Hummus

                                    I like hummus, and I had some beets on hand, so why not? The recipe calls for cooked beets, and says you can use canned. I had raw beets, and I decided cubing them and then steaming them would be the most efficient way to get them cooked - my beets were large and roasting them would have taken too much time. Similarly, he allows for canned chickpeas, but I had some cooked ones in the freezer, so that's what I used. The other ingredients are garlic, tahini, lemon juice, salt, cayenne or smoked chile powder, and pomegranate molasses. You whiz it all up in a blender. I added the tahini last, after everything else was blended, because that's what I've found works best when making regular hummus.

                                    I made up a quick flatbread to go with this. The verdict? Well, beet hummus doesn't taste that much different from regular hummus. A little different, but not as much as you might think. Which is probably a good thing if you are one of those folks who don't like beets, and have a bunch in your CSA box. This recipe is for you. For me, I thought it was fine, but I think I might prefer to have my beets in a way that shows off the beets a bit more. Also the neon pink color of this dip wasn't really appealing to me. Still, it was tasty.

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                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: MelMM Jun 5, 2014 02:36 PM

                                      Glad to see your report, as this one had intrigued me. I am getting lots of beets in the CSA box lately, but I'm not looking for ways to mask their flavor, of which I am plenty fond. So perhaps I'll pass on this one.

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                                        greedygirl RE: MelMM Jun 26, 2014 10:38 AM

                                        I made this too, but without the pomegranate molasses because It was on a different page on my iPad and I missed it! Notwithstanding, I really like the sweet earthiness of this hummus. I used vacuum-packed, ready-cooked Beetroot which made this pretty much a store cupboard dish. And I like the colour!

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                                        MelMM RE: delys77 Jun 9, 2014 01:26 PM

                                        Onion Tart (Pissaladière)

                                        I had to improvise on the crust for this, as I have to eat gluten-free, so this is more about the topping.

                                        Sliced onions are cooked down until browned in some olive oil, along with some thyme, garlic, salt, sugar, and pepper. This forms the topping for the tart (really more of a flatbread, to me), along with some niçoise olives and anchovies. I used kalamata olives instead of niçoise, because I had them on hand, and DL gives that as an option.

                                        This was very tasty. Mr. MM probably would have preferred fewer anchovies, while I was fine with the amount I used. Served with the Baked Provençal Vegetables from the book, and some rosé.

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                                          dkennedy RE: MelMM Jun 9, 2014 01:32 PM

                                          What did you use for the crust (we r in the same GF boat).

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                                            MelMM RE: dkennedy Jun 9, 2014 01:42 PM

                                            I just made one up, spur of the moment. No yeast. 1 cup tapioca starch, 1 cup expandex, 1 cup flour of choice (quinoa, millet, etc). 1 tsp baking powder, 1/2 tsp baking soda, two eggs, 1 tsp salt, and some parmesan cheese grated in. 1 cup buttermilk, water as needed (about 2 Tbs) to get a pourable consistency. Poured out on parchment, spread thin. Then bake at 400 on a preheated pizza stone, about 10 minutes or so until it is firm enough to hold the topping. Then I put the onions, etc, on, then baked again for 15 min or so.

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                                              dkennedy RE: MelMM Jun 9, 2014 03:34 PM

                                              Once again, thanks again for sharing. I'm going to commadire this recipe and attempt to make it.

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                                                MelMM RE: dkennedy Jun 9, 2014 03:40 PM

                                                It works well for when you need a flatbread, fast. No rising time needed!

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                                            nomadchowwoman RE: MelMM Jun 11, 2014 09:15 AM

                                            Oh, how I love pissaladière! This is on my list (although DH does not share my enthusiasm). Yours looks lovely.

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                                              MelMM RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 11, 2014 09:24 AM

                                              I would have to say this is my favorite of the recipes from the book so far. Although my crust doesn't count.

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                                                nomadchowwoman RE: MelMM Jun 11, 2014 09:27 AM

                                                OK, moving up on the list!

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                                                  Gio RE: MelMM Jun 11, 2014 02:23 PM

                                                  I love pissaladière. This is on my list too. My mother used to make the exact same thing with the exact same ingredients but probably without sugar, but I forget what she called it. We used to beg her to make it. She made her own dough; I make it with puff pastry now.

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                                                    JoanN RE: Gio Jun 11, 2014 03:00 PM

                                                    Yes, I was surprised to see the sugar in the recipe, but otherwise it's very similar to my standard, a recipe from Bon Appetit in 2001. The recipe I use cooks the onions with both rosemary and bay leaves in addition to thyme, and I use a pate brisee crust.

                                                  2. re: MelMM
                                                    LulusMom RE: MelMM Jun 11, 2014 04:49 PM

                                                    I use the Simon Hopkinson recipe from an old COTM. My first time around was *such* a big deal for me - pastry!

                                              2. nomadchowwoman RE: delys77 Jun 13, 2014 07:18 AM

                                                Hummus, p. 60

                                                I made this to have with drinks before our rib-sticking rib dinner last night; had to double my workout this morning!

                                                The recipe is pretty standard: I started with a cup of dried chick peas, soaked all day. They cooked for two hours with a 1/2 tsp baking soda in 3X their volume of water at a "low boil," a tad too long as it was hard to pick out the skins after draining and rinsing the cooked peas.

                                                But the mushy peas, whizzed with 9 T tahini, 2 T fresh lemon juice (DL suggests 4 tsp; I like mine lemony), 2 garlic cloves (I used the microplane grater), 2 tsp salt (kosher), and a few T of cooking liquid, yielded a very smooth result. I was "unrestrained" pouring olive oil on top. I also tossed on toasted pine nuts and sprinkled the whole generously with sumac. I then made a little well in the middle for a mix of chopped roasted jalapeno and lemon juice, which I love.

                                                So, yes, this was delicious (and hearty). But every time I make my own hummus, I think that it's no better than the freshly made quart I can get for 5.99 (with toppings) at a Middle Eastern restaurant/market less than a mile from here. And since I went there anyway to buy their freshly baked pita to go with my hummus, making it seemed like an especially pointless exercise. But if you're not so lucky, this is perfectly nice.

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                                                  Sfspicegirl RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 13, 2014 10:08 AM

                                                  Looks beautiful-- and this cookbook is adding weight to my scale...

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                                                    lagatta RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 13, 2014 04:58 PM

                                                    Yes, the supermarket packaged stuff is ghastly, but I also have great sources nearby here in Montréal with the large Lebanese population. And I'll buy a little container then.

                                                    My Lebanese friends like bouth hummous and taboulé very lemony, and the taboulé with far less bulghur than is usual elsewhere.

                                                  2. nomadchowwoman RE: delys77 Jun 15, 2014 07:47 AM

                                                    Salted Olive Crisps (Croquet Salés aux Olives), p. 42

                                                    These intrigued me so I whipped up a batch. Very easy: 1/2 c ea AP flour and WW flour (I used white WW), 1 T sugar, 1/2 tsp ea dried thyme, sea salt, baking soda, and black pepper are whisked together; then 1 c of buttermilk is stirred in, followed by 1/3 c ea. coarsely chopped almonds and pitted olives (I used the Moroccan oil-cured, which I rolled around in paper towels to "dry").

                                                    Just after I dumped the dough into the loaf pan (it barely covered the bottom), I realized I'd left out the sugar, so I made a second batch with the sugar.

                                                    Both loaves, after baking for 30 minutes at 350F, came out as very flat loaves, but they looked about as they do in DL's photos. Once cooled, the loaves were sliced thinly, slices laid out on baking sheets and baked again at 325F for 30-35 minutes, flipping and turning midway through the baking. (BTW, I think freezing the loaves would make the slicing easier. I do that when making similar cranberry-hazelnut crisps.)

                                                    The crackers with the sugar did taste slightly better than those without, but the truth is, these were rather meh. Oddly, the olives weren't very pronounced. I can't imagine really enjoying these as they are with a glass of wine. I did spread them with some leftover herbed goat cheese (p.110), and that was tasty. And these would probably be delicious as the base of those crostini, spread with the cheese, and dabbed with some of the roasted cherry tomato. But without some kind of spread that goes with olives, I don't think these are all that enjoyable . . . .So I'm unlikely to make these again, easy as they are.

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                                                      dkennedy RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 15, 2014 01:44 PM

                                                      How disappointing. They sounded so intriguing!

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                                                        smtucker RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 15, 2014 06:58 PM

                                                        I agree with dkennedy. How can something with so many olives not taste of olives? They are so very lovely to look at.

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                                                          nomadchowwoman RE: smtucker Jun 16, 2014 08:48 AM

                                                          I wouldn't say you can't taste the olives, but they are not pronounced, which I was expecting. Maybe a more assertive olive would work better. Or maybe more than 1/3 cup? I used Moroccan oil-cured because I really like them, had them on hand, and also because they're not really wet/briny (DL says the olives should be somewhat "dry").

                                                          We had these with hummus last night, and they were fine vehicles for that. But, for me anyway, they're nothing special on their own.

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                                                            LulusMom RE: nomadchowwoman Jun 16, 2014 02:00 PM

                                                            I'm grateful that you told us. This is something I can see making, and it would have been a major disappointment for me and L if it wasn't overtly olivey.

                                                      2. Caitlin McGrath RE: delys77 Jun 16, 2014 08:58 PM

                                                        Egyptian spiced nut mix (Dukkah), p. 81

                                                        Simply a mixture of toasted, skinned hazelnuts (though he also suggests subbing peanuts, almonds, or cashews), and toasted sesame and pumpkin seeds, coriander, cumin and fennel seeds, black peppercorns, and salt all ground up together with mortar and pestle, spice grinder, or mini food processor. I switched the proportions of sesame and pumpkin seeds, using more of the latter, which suits my tastes but was also a necessity because I only had 1/4 cup sesame seeds on hand. I used a spice grinder (i.e., dedicated blade coffee grinder) and I definitely ended up with a mixture a bit finer than he intends - he says it should be like very coarse cornmeal, but not a powder, and as you can see I have nice beige powder - with just a few seconds of grinding. Oh, well. It's got great flavor, nutty and complex with a hit of black pepper heat, but is surprisingly salty given that my jarful only has 1 teaspoon of kosher salt. I think it's just that the salt ended up ground quite fine and well distributed, but because it has an outsized effect I'll be conservative about salting foods I'm pairing it with.

                                                        I used it for the dukkah-roasted cauliflower on p. 224, and I think it would also be good used this way with other vegetables or mixed into crumbs for topping baked fish and chicken. I know it's also traditional to use it with olive oil for dipping bread, and that's something I might try if entertaining (I don't really eat bread that way in other circumstanced).

                                                        1. greedygirl RE: delys77 Jun 18, 2014 04:59 AM

                                                          Artichoke tapenade with rosemary oil

                                                          I didn't bother with the rosemary oil as it was just for me. The tapenade was pretty good on its own. It's basically canned artichoke hearts, green olives, olive oil, capers, lemon juice, garlic, cayenne pepper and salt whizzed up in a food processor. I love this kind of thing, which is good as there was a lot of it! I will make it again this weekend as part of a mezze spread, maybe with the rosemary oil this time.

                                                          1. greedygirl RE: delys77 Jun 23, 2014 12:51 AM

                                                            Baba Ganoush (Moutabal)

                                                            Not the first time I've made baba ganoush. This is a tasty but pretty standard version which we enjoyed as part of a mezze spread.

                                                            As is usual for this dip, DL wants you to roast your aubergine either on a grill, or over a burner, to give that authentic, smoky taste. I've always been reluctant to use my hob, because of the mess. But then I had a brainwave! I got out my little used chestnut roasting pan, which is a thin, metal pan with holes in it and stuck it on my largest burner. Whacked up the heat, and put my aubergines in it to roast. Worked a treat, and no burnt skin to pick off the cooker. Genius (she says modestly). Am going to try with peppers too.

                                                            After the burning, the aubergines are cut in half and roasted in the oven until completely soft. When cooled, scrape out the flesh and purée with tahini, garlic, EVOO, cumin, cayenne, lemon juice, salt and parsley (which I'd forgotten to buy, so left out).

                                                            Delicious, as you'd expect, with a good smoky flavour. If you can find it, use a Lebanese or Egyptian tahini. So much better than the Greek ones usually found in supermarkets and whole food stores. The leftovers got better as the flavours melded together. 2.5 lbs of aubergine makes a lot of baba ganoush!

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                                                              smtucker RE: greedygirl Jun 23, 2014 05:04 AM

                                                              Yes. Chestnut Roasting Pan == Brilliant! I don't have such a pan [and am impressed that you do] but I bet it would also work for onions for Pho, and all kinds of other vegetables.

                                                              My inner McGuyver is thinking through all the various steaming and holed inserts that might work for me.

                                                              1. re: smtucker
                                                                qianning RE: smtucker Jun 23, 2014 07:10 AM

                                                                a heat disperser? if you don't have one already they go for short change in the knick-knack sections of Asian markets.

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                                                                  JoanN RE: qianning Jun 23, 2014 07:15 AM

                                                                  Yes. Exactly what I use. Doesn't work all that well as a heat disperser (maybe because I paid about two bucks for it?), but it's great for roasting veggies on my gas burner.

                                                                  1. re: qianning
                                                                    nomadchowwoman RE: qianning Jun 23, 2014 08:05 AM

                                                                    Yes--I have an old enamelled cast iron "flame tamer": it works great for such purposes.

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                                                                awanabiisa RE: delys77 Jun 23, 2014 11:56 AM

                                                                Don't you mean "Amuse Bouche" That's the little appetizers.
                                                                Maybe you have it mixed up with "Mise en Place?"

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                                                                1. re: awanabiisa
                                                                  smtucker RE: awanabiisa Jun 23, 2014 12:49 PM

                                                                  The author calls the chapter this..... take it up with David Lebovitz if you are offended.


                                                                  And is quite accurate if a less commonly used phrase. http://dictionary.reverso.net/english...

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