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May 27, 2014 11:06 AM

What's for Dinner #302 -- The Slide Towards Summer Edition! [through May 30, 2014]

Memorial Day usually marks the beginning of summer despite what the calendar says, and I can feel a bit of that summer vibe today -- it's kind of humid, and my dog is panting after the smallest exertion. I kind of feel that way too, though I don't pant, as far as I know.

Tonight it will be just me and the visiting Egyptian since rjbh20 will be off playing squash, and my son will be at CitiField watching a game courtesy of a member of the opposing team who used to be a student at my son's school. Pro athletes rarely come from his school! Given that it's just the two of us, my plan is to make burgers -- house ground very rich beef burgers for him, and a lighter turkey burger for me. With that will be a salad.

What's on your table as we slide towards summer?

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  1. :::bookmarking thread with this post:::: Leftovers for the next few nights, at least. :-)

    1. My SO is taking me to our favorite Italian restaurant for dinner to celebrate my one year anniversary of quitting smoking. I feel terrible that I was so mean to nice people here during the process but (and I am not making excuses) quitting smoking is unbelievably hard and brings out the worst in people.

      I apologize to everyone I was mean to this last year while going through the withdrawal. Trust me, it was not fun.

      55 Replies
      1. re: Fowler

        Woohoo, that's a great milestone! Congratulations to you! I've never smoked but I've read that quitting is harder than heroin. Be proud, you did a great thing for yourself :)

        1. re: fldhkybnva

          Thank you fldhkybnva.You are such a nice and supportive person. My Doctor told me the same thing and agrees quitting smoking is even tougher than quitting heroin and people get very unpleasant during the withdrawal process.

          It will be interesting to see how many people here accept my apology. Probably none, but that would speak more about their character than mine.

          1. re: Fowler

            1 year! Congratulations!

            Speaking only for myself, if someone's behavior seems out of character I just assume they have something stressful going on in "real life" and don't give it another thought.

            In my years posting on CH there have only been 3 people who were truly nasty in a very personal way to me. And you are not one of them!

            1. re: meatn3

              Thanks meatn3. I agree and also conclude that if someone is sort of nasty on the board maybe they just lost their job or are going through a divorce or going through any of the many difficulties people experience in life. I just forgive anything they may have said and move on rather than continuing to hold a grudge.

              1. re: Fowler

                Hang in there Fowler!!!.

                I smoked breifly as a teen and while in college but never took it up. I do now keep a humidor with cigars that seldom see use except during the summer months.

                At $5-6+ a pack, cigarettes get mega expensive mega fast.
                There's a LOT of good foodie food and cooking that can be done with that money. Keep on keepin'-on. <thumbsup>

                1. re: jjjrfoodie

                  Thank you very much for the great comment jjjrfoodie. I definitely know how expensive it was and something that got me through the ordeal was every Friday I would jot down on a slip of paper how much money I saved that week by not smoking. I put each slip in a box and now I am going to use that money I saved to buy gifts for the people that had to put up with me for the past year.

                  1. re: Fowler

                    And just imagine if you lived in NYC, where cigarettes are almost $15 a pack! Congratulations on your achievement!

                    1. re: Fowler

                      My mother is a head and neck surgeon with lots of very sick patients who smoke. She tells them to put that $5-$10 a week into a big jar in the kitchen that they're no longer spending on cigarettes. Then at the end of the year, take a nice vacation!

            2. re: fldhkybnva

              You were never mean to me so no apology neccessary in my direction. Big congratulations on your one year anniversary! As Field Hawk notes, I have always heard that it is worse than heroin, so hat is off to you for sure. Thank heavens my parents' cigarettes grossed me out so much as a kid that I never picked up the habit, as who knows if I would be strong enough to quit. Enjoy your celebratory meal!

              1. re: GretchenS

                Thank you, GretchenS and I really appreciate your kind comment.

            3. re: Fowler

              Hmmm... very interesting. and my answer is "yes".

                1. re: Fowler

                  Fowler - Congrats you should be proud and I am sure feel much better - at the end of this summer it will be 2 years for me - OMG I was MEAN when I quit(not on CH only because I was not here LOL) Have a good dinner and enjoy your freedom from that horrible habit.

                  1. re: JTPhilly

                    JTPhilly, I am so glad you quit and keep up your commitment to not smoking. You are right and I do feel much better and food tastes more fantastic as well.

                  2. re: Fowler

                    I noticed not a hint of anything weird and would like to offer my sincere congrats on your milestone. I've watched my best girlfriend and my own mother struggle and fail to quit but you DID it. That's huge.
                    I hope dinner is fantabulous. It is well deserved.

                    1. re: Fowler

                      While I've not experienced your "meanness" I have noticed it directed toward others. In spite if this I will offer my Congratulations on your One Year Anniversary. Well done. It's a tough struggle for many. For myself, I quit almost 30 years ago. Cold Turkey. I guess once I made up my mind to stop it was a "fait complete" and I never looked back. I thought I would the last person on the planet to be smoking and now I can smell second hand smoke a mile away. Ugh, and Ewwww.

                      1. re: Fowler

                        Fowler, I started smoking at 8 years old. Older family members insisted so I couldn't tell on them. I quit a few times and revisited it now and then but have been smoke free since I was 38 (5 years). I have to agree, it's a bitch and a half. Now if only I could get James on board. A thousand congratulations on quitting for a year. What a nice way to commemorate such a milestone. Have a great time.

                        1. re: suzigirl

                          suzigirl, I totally know what you are going through. Like James, my SO smokes and it is VERY difficult to remain smoke free and also sit next to a loved one who is smoking because then I want to smoke and also am the "bad person" that begs my SO to not smoke because I do not want them to die of lung cancer.

                          1. re: suzigirl

                            Wow, you started at only 8 years old! And here I thought I began early: around the tender age of 12, although my dad would let me 'start' his cigs as young as 7 -- the 70s were.... a different time, I guess.

                            I quit many times over the years, but thankfully never had to deal with the (supposed/alleged) "withdrawals" so many people mention, i.e. no migraines for me, no irritability, etc. pp., but perhaps one already has to have a bitchy side for it to come out in these situations '-D

                            I did gain a ridiculous amount of weight the first time around, tho (approx. 20 lbs. within 2 months!!!), which is why I ended up starting up again after 2 years. Naturally, the weight dropped almost immediately. Fer shame!

                            But we all react differently to things, amirite? I've been tobacco-free now since my birthday in September and haven't looked back.

                            Smoking cigarettes is a nasty habit, not to mention one of *the* most unhealthy things one can do to one's body.

                            Here's to healthy minds in healthy bodies!

                            1. re: linguafood

                              I quit way way way back in 1979 (on a dare from my youngest stepbrother - who still owes me the $50 bet [plus a LOT of interest!], and while I didn't lash out at people, I definitely had the weight gain as you did, lingua. Then again, that weight gain has continued to my 55th year as I continued to learn more about cooking and enjoying the eating of said cooking, so I think that's just me. :D

                              Quitting smoking is tough, but when I realized that food tasted so much better, it was a done deal that I would "stay quit" of cigarettes.

                              1. re: linguafood

                                The seventies were definitely a different time. I only had cravings from hell. Luckily no weight gain or bitchyness. But I started being able to smell cigarettes from long distances. I could get out of my car in a parking lot and smell a cigarette from a smoker in front of the store or at a traffic light with my windows closed. Crazy.

                                1. re: suzigirl

                                  I find it interesting how many 'hounds smoke or did smoke. Is there some correlation between foodies and cigarette smoking?? Or is it the booze and the smoking that go hand in hand?

                                  I'm a current smoker. Started at 12, quickly was a pack a day or more, and stayed that way. Quit once for a year and a half and I craved them every single day, then finally gave in and started again. So I guess I didn't quit.

                                  Recently the bf hounded me to quit again so I said sure, no prob, it's time. Didn't stress about it, we set a quit date. I loaded up on patches to get me through that awful first week (which I've had to do many times while in the hospital). D-day came and I woke up and went about my day, but the boyfriend came home around 11 AM and had already chainsmoked half a pack. He's no good at quitting things.

                                  Good to see all of you who have been able to quit and stay that way. I'm hoping to before 30, which is fast approaching.

                                  1. re: nothingswrong

                                    It is interesting, isn't it?
                                    I don't smoke and only have had a puff or two a small handful of times in my life. But, I do love me some fine food and beverage. I guess everyone in just hardwired in a certain way.
                                    Being around smokers doesn't bother me for whatever reason, but caring for my grandmother as she died from lung cancer did. A lot.
                                    Best to those who are staying quit and to those making the effort to stop.
                                    And who am I to judge if you do smoke? I drink. We're all just human.

                                    1. re: alliegator

                                      Smoking is a nasty habit. I always had high-stress jobs and relied on caffeine and nicotine. I quit smoking almost 20 years ago. I still have anxiety dreams.

                                    2. re: nothingswrong

                                      I was peer pressured into smoking. But I made the decision to start inhaling and continue to smoke. I can say for myself it became a booze/smoking thing once I started drinking.

                                      Just a thought. Some people aren't the cold turkey kind, me being one of them. It took me about a month to quit by giving up alcohol entirely for a while and restricting my smoking little by little. Today I can't have my first morning cigarette anymore. Next I can't smoke until noon. No more smoking after meals. No more smoking until evening time. eventually I cut down to one cigarette a day and then I quit. You might be more suited to this approach. And stick it out even if bf doesn't. I have for 5 years except a drag here and there when I drink which I ALWAYS regret because it just tastes like shit now.

                                      1. re: suzigirl

                                        When I was in my early 20s, I used to try and quit all the time just because I knew I was supposed to. It was like every couple months, I'd get all huffy about it and make a big stink to ex hubby (who smoked like a chimney). He'd just roll his eyes, sit back, and watch the chaos ensue. I could do 4 or 5 days each time, but I'd have to not drink any coffee. Coffee = nicotine cravings like nobody's business. So day 5 I'd wake up and get an espresso and as if in a blackout, I'd be standing in front of 7-11 ripping open a pack of smokes in no time.

                                        So I just stopped trying to quit all the time and it's been maybe 5 years since I've even considered it seriously. My dad the cardiologist tells me to quit by 40 and I'll have little risk of heart disease repercussions. I lost my grandmother to emphysema and my other grandmother is currently losing her battle to lung cancer (both smoked for many years, as was the fashion, but quit before I was born). My mother the head and neck surgeon has been trying to get me to quit from the moment she discovered my habit. She loathes cigarettes and alcohol and has never taken part in either. She once got members of my family to each offer up $1,000 for me to quit on the spot. I was 18 and would've made like $7,000 but I said no way. Lol.

                                        It's funny as you get older, you really start to feel like a smoker. It's strikingly unattractive now and I get winded too easily. My doctors have told me it's quite good for slow gastric motility though !!

                                        I'm sure I will quit the way you did Suzi. You don't hear people doing that often, but knowing me, that'll be the way to go. An abrupt change is too much to handle. With a patch and an e-cig I find I don't need to smoke any real cigarettes at all. I'm hoping to "taper" off to that, and then remove the patch and e-cig eventually too.

                                        1. re: nothingswrong

                                          My ex hubs insisted I quit and said he would follow suit and two years went by without him quitting. When we divorced I fell right back in the habit with my roommate. I can relate to the hubs smoking in front of you.

                                          Girl, I would have taken the money and ran. But I am sure I would have been a sneak and just not smoked around them until the money was gone.

                                          I hope you quit. It is a little easier if you wean yourself. It doesn't seem like you are losing a friend all at once. James tried the e-cigs and it just didn't last. The smokes crept back in slowly.I hope your grandmothers history will help you make the decision easier.

                                          1. re: nothingswrong

                                            When I quit smoking in 2006, I had to play a little mind-game with myself. I had one pack of cigarettes left, and I put it in the glove box of my car. The deal I made with myself was that if I got a craving, I'd wait five minutes and go out to the car and get a cigarette if I still wanted one after the five minutes. I never went out and got one. It wasn't easy, but knowing it was right there was a lot easier than craving a smoke and going crazy thinking I'd have to go to the store if I wanted one.

                                            The unopened pack stayed in the car for several months - until DH decided to quit, too. He succumbed to his cravings, went out to MY car a few times and smoked stale Virginia Slims Menthol Lights. Bleah. They were nasty enough that just a couple of those did the trick. We have both been smoke free since.

                                          2. re: suzigirl

                                            Word on your last 2 sentences. On two occasions I had a drag of a bud's cig, and it truly tasted like crap. I don't even miss the nicotine anymore.

                                            1. re: suzigirl

                                              after several failed attempts and a few long quits blown ultimately only cold turkey worked for me, but it really was not a choice - i waited until it actually just hurt too much to smoke after recurring bronchitis had met with a bad cold and left me hacking so much my throat was bruised - i just had to stop and after a week decided to make it for real this time, i was just too young to be taking little steps and gasping for breath at 36 - a internet support board was a critical help. My Dad is currently undergoing treatment for throat cancer - he quit 10 years ago - his treatment has gone well so far - thankfully he does not have to deal with quitting smoking AND surgery/chemo/radiation at the same time. After 20+ months I do not want to smoke - but I still have a sweet tooth - and what i can only call hypoglycemia - i get dizzy and confused if I don.t eat - and must eat breakfast/cant skip meals, where as a smoker i rarely ate breakfast and could run around all day on a weekend without eating - just puffing away. Only downside mosquitos bite me now and the dogs need front-line as they don't live in a toxic cloud of pesticide all day. I won't dare take a drag - i know where that goes for me.

                                              1. re: JTPhilly

                                                Are you saying you think that quitting smoking and the hypoglycemia are related?

                                                1. re: nothingswrong

                                                  chicken? egg? sugar addiction? IDK - smoking nicotine triggers release of fats and sugars - simulating a "snack" to your brain - much of the brain fog and confusion experienced when quitting smoking is due to hypoglycemia (this is my understanding and it makes sense but I am no Doctor) - did smoking cause it? am I just addicted to sugar? or was it pre-existing? who know but apparently I was always in poor temper as a kid if I was hungry. I just know that now I "hit a wall" and *need* sugar - nothing crazy - just eating breakfast and a piece of fruit in the afternoon keeps me level- right when I quit i devoured sugar candy that I had not eaten since I was a kid though.

                                                  1. re: JTPhilly

                                                    I didn't know that JT. Interesting. I've had hypoglycemia since I was a little kid. Mom had to safety pin notes to my clothes saying "Please allow NW to snack often or she will faint." All the other kids were jealous because mom would send me off with a bag of sweets from our corner European bakery every morning.

                                                    I guess that also partially explains why smokers eat so much when they quit, and consequently tend to gain so much weight. I've noticed a lot of people quit by sucking on hard candy or repeatedly eating Snickers bars.

                                              2. re: suzigirl

                                                I hardly drank any booze when I first quit, as that was (and continued to be) my biggest trigger.

                                                Even when I had become a very occasional, 'social' smoker, I would only feel like a smoke when I was drinking.

                                                Once they banned it in NYC, there was *no fucking way* I would stand out there in the cold, SANS drink (the idiotic open container laws) and freeze my butt off while sucking on that nasty, nasty stuff.

                                                So glad to be done with it :-)

                                              3. re: nothingswrong

                                                " Or is it the booze and the smoking that go hand in hand?"

                                                That was part of the issue with me. I traveled Monday through Friday for business and there often was not much better to do after work than sit at the hotel bar smoking and drinking. Oddly after college and grad school I never smoked during the day, but as soon as I sat down at the hotel bar and had a drink or went out on the weekends with friends the smokes came out.

                                                One of the key things for me being able to quit smoking was that for the first 3 months I literally did not have a drop to drink because I just knew that was a trigger. Also, and as crazy as it sounds when I committed to quit I purchased a pack of cigarettes. I still have it and know that if I ever open it I will not be able to have just one and will smoke off the entire pack and just be addicted again and have to go through the misery of quitting once again. No thanks.

                                                1. re: Fowler

                                                  Yeah I know quite a few people who smoke when they drink. They'll lecture me up and down about how filthy and disgusting it is, but get a few drinks in 'em and they're begging me for one.

                                                  I used to have a boss who'd pour a couple drinks every Friday night and have one cigarette. She'd been doing this for like 20+ years and never smoked or drank at other times. I was like 22 and in awe at her "restraint."

                                                  As a still active smoker, I understand the traveling and afterwork drink/smoke thing. I no longer drink alcohol but when I'm bored and waiting, nothing seems to kill time better than something to drink (coffee, soda, whatever) and a smoke. And don't get me started on sitting in traffic. I think if I'm going to quit, I'll have to move out of L.A. for a while.

                                                  1. re: Fowler

                                                    Congrats on the year Fowler. It's a tough thing to do and I think the first year is the hardest.

                                                    I had to avoid alcohol to give up smoking too. After several failed attempts I eventually spent a year as a social recluse and devoted myself to stripping wallpaper and painting my house rather than sitting in bars with workmates after work.

                                                    Ten years on I still have moments where I feel like a cigarette but like you pointed out, there's no way I want to put myself through the misery of quitting again. Well done to you!

                                          3. re: Fowler

                                            Congrats on one year and good on you for the apology. It's hard to both quit smoking AND apologize and you've managed to do both.

                                            I quit about 10 years ago and it was brutal. I decided the only thing that could keep me from smoking was either running or taking a shower as I couldn't imagine smoking during either of those activities. Suffice it to say I spent a lot of time in the shower for about 3 months.

                                            I hope all your taste buds have renewed themselves and that you have a great dinner.

                                            1. re: gini

                                              What a nice reply and thanks so much, gini. You are right that quitting is brutal. I spent most of my career on the road and at times there really was not much to do at night other than sit at the hotel bar drinking, smoking and talking with other business travelers. It became a habit and a very hard one to break.

                                              I am glad to hear you quit as well.

                                            2. re: Fowler

                                              I think it's great when someone achieves what they want to achieve in life. Giving up drugs, like nicotine and alcohol, is a tough decision and one that I still battle with daily, nearly 15 years after stopping.

                                              As for apologies to users of an internet discussion board - these are never needed. We are who we are. We choose what we write and, unlike in spoken conversation, we have the ability to consider what we're writing before we hit "send" (and can quickly edit if we want). We form views about folk, who we will never know, based on what they write - it may be their true persona, it may be a character they assume for a board. To me, it is as pointless worrying about whether I have been unpleasant to someone, or they have been unpleasant to me, as whether I worry that it gets dark at night.

                                              And, hey, Fowler - in writing my considered post, does that make me one of the people who, as you said upthread, if they don't accept your apology then it says more about their character than it does yours? Just asking.

                                              1. re: Harters

                                                Harters, Considering your explanation, my answer to your question is definitely no.

                                                I certainly appreciate your well thought out reply. I have at times during the last year been sharp with you and that is one of the reasons why I extended the apology.

                                                And good for you Harters for 15 years without nicotine!

                                                1. re: Fowler

                                                  Can't recall any particular undue sharpness towards me - possibly with the time difference between continents, the board moderators had deleted the worst excesses of your comments before I saw them.

                                                  I know that you have offended quite a number of folk who contribute to this and other threads by what I'm sure you would now regard as, erm, unfortunate remarks that you've made with some regularity. No doubt, they will appreciate your apology and, as I'm sure we all will, look forward to a "snide free Fowler".

                                                  On the nicotine free front, the first five years are the worst :-) My best wishes for continued abstinence.

                                                  1. re: Harters

                                                    >>>I know that you have offended quite a number of folk who contribute to this and other threads by what I'm sure you would now regard as, erm, unfortunate remarks that you've made with some regularity.<<<

                                                    The thing you left out, Harters, is that there are some people within this and other threads that I have never offended but go out of their way to try and offend or insult me. And it is not my imagination because posters I keep in touch with in person or via e-mail have mentioned that fact.

                                                    Regardless, I appreciate that you took the time to share your feelings. Thanks.

                                                    1. re: Fowler

                                                      Yes, I've read several of your posts when you've expressed this feeling of being persecuted by other board users.

                                                      I'm told that you expressed that about me on one thread but your comments had been deleted by the time I was able to try and read the thread. Perhaps for the best.

                                                      Anyway, let me repeat my wish that the past period of your life is now over and all can be "sweetness and light" on the WFD threads.

                                              2. re: Fowler

                                                Yesterday as we checked out our new membership at the "Wholesale Club" we almost fainted when we saw that a carton of Marlboro's was 80 bucks! Back in to 90's we were a two carton a week couple.

                                                1. re: Berheenia

                                                  Carton (10 pcks x 20) would set you back around £85 in the UK. Around $142.

                                                  1. re: Berheenia

                                                    I quit smoking @ 60 cents a pack. Paying $8.00 a pack or whatever they are now is insane!

                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                      In one of those weaker moments of years past, late at night somewhere in the Village, I had a drunken craving for a cigarette. One. Just one. Went to the next deli and thought, what the hell -- I'll buy a pack and give it to my smoking friends. Whatever the dude at the register said didn't make a goddamn bit of sense, so I asked him to repeat: "That'll be 14.37, ma'm". I told him to forget about it.

                                                      Like most ex-smokers, I cannot fathom living with a smoker or spending more time than absolutely necessary in a smoker's home. Ick.

                                                      1. re: linguafood

                                                        I am the exception to the rule. Cigarette smoke doesn't bother me. Watching James smoke bothers me but he is a grown man so I deal.

                                                        1. re: suzigirl

                                                          Love conquers much, suzi. Even smoke.

                                                          1. re: linguafood

                                                            You said it !! Love him and his bad habits.

                                                  2. re: Fowler

                                                    Congrats on the milestone!

                                                    I quit smoking what seems like a 100 years ago. I am cheap and vain so once they hit a $1.00 a pack I quit, plus I hated the way they made my hair smell. Not even "Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific" or "Body on Tap" could really get rid of the smell.

                                                    And remember not to rest on your laurels. I know many an addict that thought they could just have the occasional XYZ once enough time had past. Addiction is very insidious.

                                                    Lastly- I may be in the minority but I rarely remember rude/nasty posters unless their postings are consistently that way. So while you may have been mean to me it didn't stick with me. When people lash out at me I try to let it roll off my back-some days I am better at it than others.

                                                    There is only one poster I can think of off the top of my head that I identify as so negative, mean and nasty that I try to stay out of the fray when they post. Sometimes I am successful but on the times when I am not I ended up kicking myself. I often wonder what their real life must be like for them to be so negative and argumentative on daily basis, especially when this really is just a message board about food. It makes me pity them.

                                                    1. re: foodieX2

                                                      Maybe they come to the internetz since people in real life run from them?

                                                      That is so funny to read about cigarettes hitting the outrageous price of $1.00 a pack.

                                                      1. re: Fowler

                                                        Congratulations, Fowler. I know EXACTLY what you have gone through. I smoked for 40 years and have been "clean" now for over 6 years. And it is very hard, indeed. I am so happy now. I used Chantix and it made me throw up every day for 3 months (kind of like morning sickness). I swore if I got through that I would never pick up a cigarette again. So, that said, I am really PROUD for you. Keep up the good work. Sending many happy thoughts your way. And food does taste so much better!

                                                        And to all others who have quit, Congratulations to you too. To those who have not, keep trying. You'll be glad you did.

                                                      2. Some kind of chicken.... Ugh. I hate chicken. I have 3 BSCB that I need to do something with. I was thinking of grilling but we are supposed to have heavy thunderstorms between 4pm and midnight so I need a new plan. I'll probably do rice and steamed green beans to go with.

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                                                        1. re: Njchicaa

                                                          How about something with a mustard sauce? Quick and flavorful, even with SBCB

                                                          1. re: Njchicaa

                                                            What about a stir-fry, Njchicaa? You could still use the green beans - just add some garlic, ginger, soy sauce, dry sherry, carrot pennies, and a cornstarch or flour slurry and serve it over that same rice. Oh - and top it with peanuts and/or cashews if you're not allergic. :-)

                                                            1. re: Njchicaa

                                                              Maybe something from (or inspired by) COTM? Chicken with apricots or Chicken with Cashew gravy both got good reviews.

                                                              1. re: Njchicaa

                                                                I hate chicken too, unless it's butterflied and sauteed with capers.

                                                              2. it is getting to that time of year when I just don't want to heat up the house when I get home from work

                                                                put some chicken legs and thighs on a rack over beer in the slow cooker over night - have some nice roasted chicken and a tasty looking jus in the fridge- and some homemade mayo that I am wanting to use up + too many buns from the cookout - I am thinking dippable sammies

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                                                                1. re: JTPhilly

                                                                  It's already 89 in my kitchen so I figure turning on the oven really isn't going to make a difference in my comfort level at this point.

                                                                2. I've got some strip steaks defrosting. I think we'll sear those and serve with some stir-fried pea shoots and maybe a fennel-orange salad. I liked what I saw in the link to a carrot salad posted in the last thread.

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                                                                  1. re: ChristinaMason

                                                                    Yeah, steaks were definitely not thawed by dinnertime. Luckily, there was a flat iron in the back of the fridge that was ready, together with leftover braised green beans and some baby peas. It worked.