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Recommendations in/near the 7th Needed

We are a group of friends that have rented three apartments for a 4 night stay in Paris this November. They are located at 12 rue Malar in the 7th arrondissement and two of them have gourmet kitchens.

We do plan to take advantage of the local markets for a few meals and then dine out as well.

I am looking for recommendations for the following:
- Wine store with good selection and prices
- Fromagerie
- Boulangerie

I believe there is a Monoprix in this area to purchase the basics. Is this correct?

I am interested in bistros within a 30 minute walk or quick metro stop where we can eat well without breaking the bank. Fixed price menus of 16-10E lunch and 25-30E dinner would be ideal.

Also interested in a great steak tartare in the area and my husband a daily fix of creme brulee.

Suggestions appreciated!

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  1. The 7th is not a good place to find €16-10 lunches. Our favorites in the area for a bit more are Bistro Belhara on Rue Duvivier, the newly re-worked Le Florimond on Lamotte-Piquet, Reed on rue Amelie, the no reserve Constant duo on St. Dominique . If you want to bump up the price a bit, Restaurant David Toutain is excellent and La Cuisine and Chez Les Anges are all good.

    Probably the most highly regarded fromagerie close to you is Marie Cantin on Rue Champ de Mars. For wine, I think Rue Cler has a Nicolas and Repaire de Bacchus.

    There is no reason for you to go hungry or thirsty anywhere near
    Rue Malar.

    1. For me Cantin prices are scary, metro to Dubois at Maubert-Mutualite
      Belhara great suggestion as is L'Assiette in the northern 14th, not very far from you metro Mouton-Duvernet on the 4 ligne.
      Prices are a bit above your level but very worth it at both those places, L'Assiette has no prix fixe.

      1. There are two Monoprix not too far from you. The smaller one, food only, is on rue du Bac, a block north of St. Germain. It is on your bus route, the #69.

        1. manguer, thanks, I thought I remembered one from my last stay in the area. The one I frequented had a large wine selection.

          Thanks everyone.

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          1. re: caviargal

            When I France I always think it best to buy wine from a place that offers advice and guidance. Not certain Monoprix does.

            1. re: PhilD

              ... though the 3-for-1 deals assure that by the end of your final bottle you've discovered your new favourite wine.

              1. re: PhilD

                We are fairly familiar with French wine and would not be looking to the staff at Monoprix for recommendations. There is actually a wine store on the ground level of our apartment building but not sure of their hours. Monoprix is a good back up plan as we arrive on a Sunday and will need to stock up.

                1. re: caviargal

                  La Grande Epicerie has an excellent wine selection as well.

                  1. re: caviargal

                    I too am reasonably familiar with French wine - but I find it helpful to get advice. Most supermarkets carry wine from quite obscure producers so even if am confident about what is in the bottle I usually can't tell a good producer from an also ran.

                    La Derniere Goutte in the 6th is very good for advice especially if Juan is around. They do deliver but not certain if the trolley makes it to that end of the 7eme

              2. Your budget for restaurant meals is VERY challenging. Offhand, I can only think of Le P'tit Troquet on the rue de l'Exposition off the rue de Grenelle ... and La Laiterie Sainte-Clothilde on the rue Bellechasse in the Faubourg Saint-Germain side of the 7th.

                For shopping, the very expensive rue Cler is your neighbourhood's shopping street... includes a relatively large Franprix supermarket. The open-air street market on the avenue du Président Wilson between Alma-Marceau and Iéna on Wed and Sat mornings is also in easy reach thanks to the #63 bus to and from the Quai d'Orsay at the start of the rue Malar. .

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                  1. re: PhilD

                    Au Dernier Métro is indeed a good option (and the tartare-- especially aller-retour-- is quite good) but prices have gone up to slightly above the OP's budget.

                    1. re: Parnassien

                      Since we are traveling with a group, I want to be sensitive to various budgets.

                      I have found a few restaurants that a subset of us will be trying for lunch and dinner but they will not be affordable to everyone.

                      Will check out Au Dernier Métro - thanks!

                      1. re: caviargal

                        My empathy. It is awfully difficult to cater to the needs of all people in a group. If it's not cost, it's something else. My hat's off to your patience and willingness to try to have every member have the best possible time.

                        1. re: caviargal

                          "Au Dernier Métro"
                          How much farther is the Cantine de Troquet Dupleix?
                          180 meters it says. Both good bargains.

                  2. Since you have gourmet kitchens, whatever they are :) , is it possible for you to cook more at home but go out to fewer but better restaurants that call for a higher budget than what you indicate ? You seem to care about food. With that budget you can manage to find some ok-to-good meals. It would be regrettable if you deprived yourselves of some better restaurants (I am talking about averagely priced bistros, not starred places).

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                    1. re: Parigi

                      Continuing the thought of wringing some more dinner money out of your budget, you write that you are thinking of spending 16 to 10€ on lunch. If I were making the choice, i would scrimp on lunch and spend at dinner. Personally, I don't do large lunches. Ours usually cost under 10€ per person. At dinner, I never ask the price.

                      1. re: Parigi

                        A gourmet kitchen to me means a full size stove, good refrigerator, space to work and adequate cooking equipment. Some of the apartments we looked at were a hot plate and a microwave.

                        I do care about food quality and preparation but not everyone I am traveling with feels the same.

                        Averagely priced bistro recommendations are also appreciated.

                        1. re: caviargal

                          As such, you have good options. Why get steak and chicken at restaurants when you can cook it yourself at home, and buy premium meats from butchers for less than the cost of mediocre meats at a restaurant?

                          You can definitely splurge on lunches and save on dinners by cooking good quality products at home. If you're tempted to have an expensive roasted chicken, buy an expensive chicken and roast it yourself. Steak? Do it at home. If you swap the lunch prices for dinners, you could probably eat well eating lunch out and eating dinner at home.

                          1. re: yakionigiri

                            Its good advice - but unless I am in town for a long time I enjoy the nightlife and having someone else do the cooking and washing up - so I can see why people want to get out.

                            But, if that is what people want to do its wise to give accurate advice and its simple.

                            At €10 to 16 for lunch and €25 to 30 for dinner you will struggle. Given the cost of the trip is an extra €150 for meals (lunch to €30 and dinner to €50) over 4 days not a sensible investment...? When you look back on it it will be quickly forgotten.

                            1. re: PhilD

                              Or to paraphrase Phil's last sentence, will you remember what you spent your savings on?

                              I have to think that food is a rather important part of your trip experience or else you wouldn't have bothered to inquire on Chowhound.

                              Is it that some of your group are more hidebound than others? I remember traveling with a friend who refused to buy a few grams of ham at Bellota because it was "too expensive". We still "joke" about his refusal and my walking out of the shop on him, reminding him that a shroud has no pockets.

                              If so, lean on them!

                              1. re: mangeur

                                30€ at lunch, then transferring the lunch budget to dinner (cooked at home) seems the most reasonable way to get good food at this budget. If you're considering set menus, and not just à la carte, this makes the most sense to me...

                                Plus, "within 30 mins walk." For whom? The area isn't exactly reasonable for 10-15€...

                                1. re: yakionigiri

                                  I stated 30 minutes walk as that is a distance that my mother, who we are taking with us, can comfortably walk. The metro would be difficult for her to navigate due to steps.

                                  She is not a foodie and will be happy with a light meal nearby or something she can enjoy while sitting in the garden reading a book at the end of a day.

                                  We can easily navigate to other areas using the metro, and have on past visits, to seek out interesting dining experiences.

                                  1. re: caviargal

                                    For your mother's sake, get acquainted with the bus system... it's a godsend. And you will be much better situated for buses than for the métro... major bus routes on the quai d'Orsay, avenue Bosquet, rue Saint-Dominique, and boulevard de La Tour-Maubourg.

                                    More thoughts on dining in the 7th: if you can raise your budget just a bit, Philippe Excoffier on the rue de l'Exposition, FL Restaurant on the rue Augereau, and Afaria on the rue Malar, and Le Café de Mars on the rue Augereau are all great-value places... with careful choosing and maybe shared desserts, maybe 35 to 40 € for dinner and half that for a lunch "formule".

                                    1. re: Parnassien

                                      Thank you for that recommendation and I will research bus routes. The last time I took my mother to Paris was 9 years ago and I do not recall taking the bus other than the HOHO.

                                2. re: mangeur

                                  Yes, that is the situation. I want to have a list of options/suggestions to hand to everyone and then they can decide.

                                  Some in the group have no budget concerns whatsoever, and others will be using the kitchen to prepare most of their meals.

                                  There are a half dozen foodies among us who are looking forward to some special dining experiences. We go to Europe primarily for food, wine and the day and day pleasures, rather that sightseeing and the typical tourist attractions.

                                  For us, we will spend lots of time in the public markets and small specialty stores and pop into to enjoy a glass of wine and local specialties along the way.

                        2. The "Best Buy" in that part of the 7th is probably Le Bistrot du 7eme, with a 16E prix-fixe at lunch. Good selection and speedy service. Always full, so reserve.

                          1. Since one usually writes a price range starting with the lower number am I right to assume "16-10E" is a typo, and the OP (who's alias is caviargal... just sayin' ;) ) really meant 16-20E ?

                            If I'm right, then there are a few more options... especially if you can stretch it to 25E (for instance the prix fixe lunch at Semilla today was 23E - which according to Google Maps is 32minutes walk from your apartment).