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jesstifer May 19, 2014 11:31 AM

This from the Twitter machine:

@Jenn_Harris_ 10:26am via Web
Want to chat w @thejgold about his 101 best restaurants? Ask him questions using #jgold101 & he'll answer live at 12 http://t.co/NqGrfWJdcK

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    kevin RE: jesstifer May 19, 2014 01:50 PM

    Thanks man. Does he respond through Twitter (I'm like the eponymous chef in Chef who hasn't the darnedest clue about Twitters).

    Thanks.

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      jessejames RE: kevin May 19, 2014 02:18 PM

      Yes he has responded occasionally

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        chrishei RE: jessejames May 19, 2014 02:48 PM

        He's actually PM'd me a couple of times too, so I think he does respond to Twitter questions only a fairly regular basis.

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        set0312 RE: kevin May 19, 2014 09:17 PM

        He responded to me about Coni Seafood. The trick is to ask about a restaurant he likes or an obscure cuisine/specific dish so he can show off his knowledge!

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        set0312 RE: jesstifer May 19, 2014 11:22 PM

        To anybody who is thinking about watching this, I would say its not worth your time.

        Key notes/the only controversial thing he addressed is he said Bucato is low bc from a traditional sense the pasta-making may not be as good as the stuff at factory kitchen. Baco Man i hope you read this.

        Said Spago is really superb.

        He was a responding to twitter questions. In truth, there just weren't very many good questions. He was candid.

        For kids he recommends Sea Harbor and Chichen Itza.

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          BacoMan RE: set0312 May 19, 2014 11:49 PM

          So tradition wins out over flavor? Wtf?... Makes no sense. Angelini is down at 47, and that's more traditional than the Factory Kitchen...completely ridiculous.

          I don't know how to comprehend it really.

          If anything, the non-traditional place should be far higher when placed in Los Angeles. He, and all the stuck up conservatives can keep their traditions. Fuck 'em. I go by taste.

          I guess it's time to stop taking his reviews seriously.

          A sad day.

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            foodiemahoodie RE: BacoMan May 20, 2014 12:12 AM

            Don't try to comprehend it - it makes very little sense.

            There is a randomness to it that is almost like a dart board.

            I can say this - 101 restaurants in varying quality. I find myself slapping my forehead over some of these. And getting pissed off.

            He's a very good writer, but his taste leaves mucho to be desired.

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              BacoMan RE: foodiemahoodie May 20, 2014 02:12 AM

              The only way I could understand it is maybe if he is forced by the publications to come up with some ratings, so he literally tosses darts at a board with names for the list...

              Except for Providence I guess.

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                foodiemahoodie RE: BacoMan May 20, 2014 07:51 AM

                "Except for Providence" - agree.

                Note no mention of Urasawa. Or Mori sushi - Which according to Mr. Gold's list is not as good as, say, Musso & Frank's, or Park's BBQ, or the Superba snack bar? Or Langers for that matter.

                Langers is better than Gjelina? Great hand-sliced pastrami (which they don't even make themselves, they heat it up). But everything else is downright average, if not mediocre. Oh well, go figure!

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                  set0312 RE: foodiemahoodie May 20, 2014 10:14 AM

                  Gold did explain that he didn't put Urasawa on the list because he felt it was too expensive and was a disservice to LA Times readers to suggest it for the price.

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                    foodiemahoodie RE: set0312 May 20, 2014 11:15 AM

                    I missed this (it wasn't mentioned in the preamble to the big list). Where was it?

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                      set0312 RE: foodiemahoodie May 20, 2014 11:19 AM

                      This was in his video chat that the OP linked. Basically he said the food at Urasawa is as good as it was last year but 1300 dollars for two is just too much, and that its possible to have a btter experience at other places.

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                        Servorg RE: set0312 May 20, 2014 11:28 AM

                        Such as at Shunji...

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                          set0312 RE: Servorg May 20, 2014 11:52 AM

                          Exactly.

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                          BacoMan RE: set0312 May 20, 2014 03:45 PM

                          How hilarious that he would cut it for price, while he himself has begun a significant upward trend in the prices of the places he recommends...

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                  Servorg RE: foodiemahoodie May 20, 2014 07:06 AM

                  "He's a very good writer, but his taste leaves mucho to be desired"

                  Except, of course, by the one doing the tasting/opining. And in this case that would be Mr. Gold. No?

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                    foodiemahoodie RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 02:14 AM

                    I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

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                      Servorg RE: foodiemahoodie May 22, 2014 02:43 AM

                      You say his taste leaves a lot to be desired. I'm saying you can only tell that his taste is different from yours. But to Mr. Gold, his taste is spot on.

                      My logic meter always hits into the red zone when folks here set out to prove that someone else has poor taste in food. No, they have different taste. Not poor, or deficient or their taste leaves much to be desired.

                      They just have a different take on what taste profiles they find delicious. Some women (and men too) find Brad Pitt to be the best looking man on the planet. Some say Johnny Depp.

                      Some men (and women) find Jessica Alba absolutely the cats meow and some lust for Scarlett Johansson, or Halle Berry or Zoe Saldana or Lupita Nyong'o or...well you get the idea.

                      There is no wrong or deficient choice when it comes to what turns on your sex drive, or your taste buds.

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                        mc michael RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 10:24 AM

                        You're right. But McDonald's.

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                          Servorg RE: mc michael May 22, 2014 10:40 AM

                          One of our esteemed hounds (I won't say who exactly, but the first letters of his board user name are "ipse") has a thing for filet 'o fish sandwiches. Need I say more?

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                            mc michael RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 11:02 AM

                            Well, they are cheap on Fridays.

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                              kevin RE: mc michael May 22, 2014 11:56 AM

                              mc, only during the lenten period.

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                              kevin RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 11:56 AM

                              i have a serious affinity for those things too.

                              a few of those suckers and sex works quite perfectly.

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                                Servorg RE: kevin May 22, 2014 11:58 AM

                                Yeah...the right suckers definitely enhance sex.

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                                  kevin RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 12:00 PM

                                  junk food with junky sex, in a word: perfect.

                                  but you need to have at least three to send you into an enhance free-flowing stupor state of pastoral, bucolic bliss.

                                  but four is too many.

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                                    mc michael RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 12:04 PM

                                    They have that on the menu now?

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                                      Servorg RE: mc michael May 22, 2014 12:40 PM

                                      It's a "regional" thing below (blow?) the Mason-'Dicks'on Line.

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                                        kevin RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 01:11 PM

                                        Sevrog, I
                                        Just loudly cracked up.

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                                          mc michael RE: Servorg May 22, 2014 01:37 PM

                                          What's Burger King's cumback?

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                                            jessejames RE: mc michael May 22, 2014 02:18 PM

                                            Hold the special sauce

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                                              TheOffalo RE: jessejames May 22, 2014 02:39 PM

                                              Really?!? No references to In-n-Out yet?!

                                              Hey babe, would you like to see my Carl's Jr? Five Guys? Jack in the Box?

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                                                kevin RE: TheOffalo May 22, 2014 02:42 PM

                                                Do you guys like the special sauce on an in n out burger ?????

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                                                  jessejames RE: kevin May 22, 2014 02:44 PM

                                                  No mayo or friends of mayo for me

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                                                    TheOffalo RE: kevin May 22, 2014 02:44 PM

                                                    I like extra spread. But not on my burger.

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                                                      kevin RE: TheOffalo May 22, 2014 02:46 PM

                                                      or someone said the roast beef at top round was really great right ???? with the horseradish cream sauce.

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                                                        TheOffalo RE: kevin May 22, 2014 02:47 PM

                                                        Not the beef curtains again...

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                                                          jessejames RE: TheOffalo May 22, 2014 02:49 PM

                                                          Pork butt

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                                                        jessejames RE: TheOffalo May 22, 2014 02:46 PM

                                                        Take it in or eat out?

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                                                          kevin RE: jessejames May 22, 2014 02:53 PM

                                                          Eat out, obviously.

                                                          I don't cook. :)

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                                                      jessejames RE: TheOffalo May 22, 2014 02:44 PM

                                                      Or subway. Want the footlong?

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                              VenusCafe RE: BacoMan May 20, 2014 11:25 AM

                              I think that day was back when he left LAWeekly.

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                                BacoMan RE: VenusCafe May 20, 2014 03:44 PM

                                You're probably right. The writing he did at the Weekly was adventurous, chaotic, sometimes even savage.

                                Ever since he joined the times its been like reading an anesthetized version. The difference between seeing a lion in the wild, and seeing on in a zoo.

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                                  set0312 RE: BacoMan May 20, 2014 05:50 PM

                                  I wonder how much that has to do with reader base. I'm guessing the random eastside joints just don't appeal that much to typical readers.

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                                    BacoMan RE: set0312 May 20, 2014 05:57 PM

                                    I guess not...

                                    Places like Chengdu Taste and Hunan Mao are lucky to slip through I suppose.

                                    I thought Tasty Dining might've got in there from his review.

                                    Another place that I'm kind of surprised didn't make it at all was Scratch Bar, which he seemed to like quite a lot. not eastside...but...just another odd omission.

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                                      set0312 RE: BacoMan May 21, 2014 01:15 AM

                                      Have you been to Scratch Bar?

                                      I had the tasting menu. A few dishes were good. Some were okay. Others were poor. Nothing somewhat memorable. Too expensive. Arrogant waitstaff.

                                      I asked why they didn't carry Coke and got a three minute lecture on how they care about what people put in their bodies and don't believe in corn syrup and all that shit.

                                      Gold did LA Times readers a serious service by not including Scratch Bar. Perhaps he was "forced" to review it.

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                                        jessejames RE: set0312 May 21, 2014 04:14 PM

                                        as eddie murphy told bill cosby, have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up...

                                        I love coke.

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                                          BacoMan RE: set0312 May 21, 2014 04:31 PM

                                          Actually, I haven't yet. I was going off of his review of the place. I wasn't really thinking of going before his review. He seemed to really like the Squid in a Box and Smoking Goat's Milk Cheese.

                                          Glad I never actually made it now...

                                          Based on your reviews, it seems like we have pretty similar tastes (except maybe for the fact that I don't drink soda), so you're more reliable of a source than Gold at this point.

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                                            set0312 RE: BacoMan May 21, 2014 06:32 PM

                                            I think we do have very similar tastes. I'm gonna check out Jagerhaus this weekend based on your suggestion.

                                            But ya Scratch Bar was no good. Imagine the "misses" from places like Alma and Allummette and even Trois Mec and make a menu out of them. Then throw in a "modernist" flair and you have Scratch Bar.

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                                              BacoMan RE: set0312 May 21, 2014 06:58 PM

                                              If you do go to Jägerhaus, be sure to order the Bratwurst plate, and the Wiener Schnitzel (assuming you aren't eating alone). Get as much sauerkraut as you possibly can (even if you don't like sauerkraut, the stuff there is so good it might change your mind). Also don't miss: potato pancake (don't forget to ask for sour cream), and spaetzle (get it with the gravy!) Also, be sure you ask for a pot of their mustard.

                                              And a slice of their German chocolate cake to finish things off.

                                              Hopefully you enjoy it as much as I do. You're in for a great meal I think.

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                                                running pig RE: BacoMan Jun 23, 2014 11:16 AM

                                                Glad to see a Jagerhaus nod! This is one place that my whole family agrees on. Breakfasts and sandwiches are unique and tasty. And call me a cheeseball, but I like the over-the-top Bavarian decor. Nice folks running the place.

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                                                  BacoMan RE: running pig Jun 24, 2014 03:15 AM

                                                  Better people could not be running the place. It's basically the house kitchen of an old German grandmother, literally. It's completely ridiculous that they don't get more attention from the food media. The only reason is the location, and maybe the decor I guess.

                                                  What are their breakfasts like though? Never been for that meal.

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                                                seanwlee RE: set0312 Jun 23, 2014 10:12 AM

                                                Ehh...I wouldn't merit Scratch Bar no good/poor. There was a mix of poor-average dishes, but really outstanding dishes as well. There were some flaws and OBVIOUS flaws, (not opinionated flaws) such as super salty tomatoes on the hanger steak ruining the flavor of the steak and the home-made ice cream cone being way too sweet... but ultimately my palate was enhanced by treats such as cauliflower 4 ways and the cured pig's head so I would argue that Scratch Bar is not a complete waste of time...it's nice to perk your taste buds with new enhancements

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                                                  BacoMan RE: seanwlee Jun 24, 2014 03:15 AM

                                                  How was the squid in a box? Or smoking Goat's milk cheese?

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