BYOB-Anathema or a Possibility
- Delucacheesemonger May 15, 2014 01:19 AM
As have never seen it here, wonder if l walk with a bottle or two into a restaurant in Paris or France in general, would l be tarred and feathered or perhaps charged some corkage fee and all would be happy,
Would it matter if l cleared it with the restaurant when reservation was made ?
You should clear it first with the restaurant, and the answer would probably be no, followed by secret spitting on your food in the kitchen before serving.
I knew of two restaurants where I was allowed to bring my own bottles. Both Chinese, both whose owners I know well. As for all - all - the other restaurants I frequent, their wine list ranges from good to insane. A lot of the times I prefer certain bottles from my own "cave" - like Les Creisses, - but I am not going to bring a bottle to restaurants when it is part of their business to sell theirs to me.
In other countries or cultures where the restaurants or restaurant genres do not have readily available good wine or wine period, BYOB is a much better accepted option.
'You should clear it first with the restaurant, and the answer would probably be no, followed by secret spitting on your food in the kitchen before serving.'
'In other countries or cultures where the restaurants or restaurant genres do not have readily available good wine or wine period, BYOB is a much better accepted option.'
In many of the US States, it is often if not always done.
Cali, NY, PA ,NJ, Florida, Nevada, and many others all allow it many times without corkage charge. This is whether or not they sell wine in the restaurant.
I have done it once when eating Coucou de Rennes at Daniel Rose's old Spring, I bought a bottle of wine I knew my guest that day would like and announced I had brought it upon entering; Josh Adler and Daniel and my friend polished it off quickly; Josh pronouncing it like "old athletic socks." No charge but that was my last attempt.
re: John Talbott
Also at old Spring I remember a couple seated next to us arriving with a special bottle. It was reviewed and discussed by Daniel et al, considered quite interesting, maybe even a treat. Definitely more of a "show and tell" or sharing experience. I doubt the couple wound up with more than a glass each.
(It's my hunch that the wine-bearer is a poster on this forum.)
If you have a bottle, and reason to drink it, that has extra-ordinary personal or oenological importance, and plead your case well when reserving, I think you would seldom be refused. I'd be prepared to share much of it with the house. The corkage charged will probably depend on how well you charmed the birds out of the trees (something you usually ace).
I realize that it depends on one's level of wine experience, but I really enjoy the opportunity to sample wines that I might not otherwise come across, to be introduced to a new terroir or producer, even have my convictions overturned about a wine I had not enjoyed in the past.
I am not interested in the most expensive bottles on any list, so I don't find that it costs a lot to order off a carte.
If you or someone in the party know the proprietor well it can be arranged in advance. I have done this on several occasions mostly in the distant past when one could bring wine in a carry-on. The most recent, however, was just last year.
Things are changing rapidly. If you can get to the right person what harm can there be in asking, in advance of course. The worst that can happen is they say no. If they say yes be prepared to share.