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Discount for well-behaved kids on restaurant bill

Interesting. Considering the number of threads there have been on CH about kids in restaurants (mostly poorly behaved kids) this is a nice touch on the restaurant's part. Especially on Mother's Day, a notoriously busy day in restaurants.

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  1. I'm torn on this. It is a nice touch, but it shouldn't be necessary, sadly. I think I feel the same way about my coworkers who pay their teens for good grades ($20 per A, etc). Interesting comments on the link, too. Thanks for sharing LindaWhi.

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    1. re: pinehurst

      I completely agree it shouldn't be necessary, pinehurst. Sad that it's even comes into play. It was the norm for me growing up - we behaved, or we got dragged out of the restaurant (and probably got a sharp pop on the butt once we were out in the car!). We knew dining out was a *privilege*, not a right.

      Nor should kids get money for good grades. (Lord, I would have made out like a bandit as compared to my brother and sister if that were the case when I was in school! LOL)

      1. re: LindaWhit

        Kids shouldn't be given money for good grades because you didn't?

        I receive a monetary bonus for good work. Not much different than my grandmother sending a tenner for getting straight As.

        1. re: LeoLioness

          I'm glad you were able to pocket money, LeoLioness, for your good grades. My parents expected me to do my best to get good grades. But there was no monetization or bribery applied to it. A special dinner or dessert on rare occasion, but - $20 for an A? No. I earned money for the chores I did around the house. Not for grades.

          1. re: LindaWhit

            That's great but many aspects of child-rearing aren't really a "right" or "wrong" (or "should" and "shouldn't") thing.

            1. re: LindaWhit

              It's funny you say this bc modern parenting "rules" would say not to reward children with food for what is now a fairly obvious reason. They would suggest money/toy as a positive reinforcement

              1. re: Siegal

                Well, the special dinner out was always a surprise and, as I said - a rare occasion.

                It wasn't put out there as a carrot on a stick for us kids. And it didn't happen every single time. More often than not, we got a hug and a "We're so proud of you - good going!" That's more positive reinforcement than money/toy/food ever could be.

              2. re: LindaWhit

                Heck, we didn't get paid for specific chores, but we did get an allowance when in grade school. This is going to make me sound much older than I am, but we got .50¢/week as our allowance.

                We did not get paid for grades either. Our allowance got bumped up to $5/week in the 7th grade. That was actually school lunch money, but I did not eat in the cafeteria.

                1. re: John E.

                  We all got 25 cents a week IF we did all our chores, but it wasn't really tied in with the money. School grades were assumed to be something you wanted to be good, and the praise after bringing the report card home was all we lived for. Better than money to me.

                  I think I got bumped up to 50 cents at one point when I was a preteen but then I started babysitting like crazy and it wasn't really necessary anymore.

                2. re: LindaWhit

                  Lucky you.

                  I never saw a dime until I started babysitting on my own outside the house around 10 yrs. old.
                  Doing chores in my family was expected…not rewarded.

                  1. re: latindancer

                    My allowance was $2.00 a week. I wasn't getting rewarded for doing my chores. It was also to help me learn money management. If I wanted a record album, I saved to buy it myself. Babysitting outside the house didn't happen until I was 12 or 13. And that was at $2.00 or $2.50/hour.

                    1. re: LindaWhit

                      We were, essentially, raised the same way and I look back and love it.
                      The allowance at the end of the week wasn't for anything other than some money in my bag to make sure I had a little so I wasn't without if I needed anything.
                      Like you, it helped me to learn how to budget my money until the next week. All valuable object lessons.
                      I must be older…I earned 50 cents an hour and I fed, bathed and cleaned for that hard earned money.

                      1. re: latindancer

                        It could have been less for the babysitting money (early to mid-70s). I vaguely remember getting $10 one babysitting job and being over the moon! (4-1/2 hours plus a big "tip"- so $1.50/hr might make more sense).

                        Now, as I understand it, it can be $8 to $12/hour for babysitting. And the likelihood of a 14yo girl babysitting young kids is probably nil.

                        1. re: LindaWhit

                          Used to be 25 cents an hour base in the 1960s when I was in that field, although some would give me lots more. I had one couple that owned a race horse, and when he won that night, oh boy!

                          1. re: LindaWhit

                            <the likelihood of a 14 yo girl babysitting young kids is probably nil>

                            I'm hoping, somewhere in this country because I've never heard of it happening where I live, there are young girls given the opportunity to babysit young kids.
                            I had a full-time job, during the summer, babysitting 3 young children in my neighborhood while both parents worked…this was during the 60's and I was young, about 12. All for 50 cents/hour. I made meals all throughout the day, cleaned the house and took care of them like they were my own…bathing them and playing with them. There is so much value in doing so, many object lessons learned, and I hope it still exists somewhere in our society.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              I remember babysitting exactly one time when I was a 12 year old boy. The neighbors two houses down had a 4 year old boy. All I really remember is the kid would not go to bed. The parents probably came home by 11pm. I was worried they would be angry because of this. They were not as I recall. I think they inquired about hiring me again but my mother told them I was not cut out for babysitting. I did a lot of farmwork in my jr. high years like baling and stacking hay and straw, walking beans, and detassling corn. I wonder how many CHers have any idea what those last to chores entail?

                        2. re: latindancer

                          Same for me - and also working in the family store! It wasn't until I got my first job outside of the family when I was 15-16 that I got paid!
                          It was just a given that we were all in this together, and everyone had to pitch in and do their part. Getting good grades in school was my full-time job, and helping out around the house and in the store was my second job. No $ ever changed hands, but my mum did take me book shopping every month!

                          1. re: khh1138

                            I'm surrounded by kids who're given cars, phones, money and everything else under the sun *just* because they're part of the family. They don't have to work for anything.
                            I'm appalled at the parents who think they're doing the right thing by giving their 10 yo children iPhones and using the excuse it's because they need to reach their children if need be. After the iPhone what's next for a 10 yo? How high does the bar go?
                            Yes…book shopping and the library were huge outings for me too.
                            Great post, khh.

                          2. re: latindancer

                            Ditto my family. No allowance. Just do what is expected.

                            In terms of grades, straight A's supposedly earned you a steak dinner out with Dad. But he never really followed up on it. It became a running joke. I had my sixth grade teacher put a steak house menu in my report card envelope as a joke.

                        3. re: LeoLioness

                          No, kids shouldn't be given money for good grades because one should do one's best all the time because it's the right thing to do....not because of a cash incentive. My parents--neither of whom went to college--were great proponents of the idea that education was a reward in itself.

                          Of course, that was only the culture in my home. I had evil, old-fashioned parents. I didn't get an allowance, either--had to do chores because everyone was expected in around the house, including the kid.

                          1. re: pinehurst

                            Ahhh, those evil old-fashioned parents, pinehurst. Yup, had 'em too.

                            And LeoLioness - bribing kids shouldn't be done, IMO.

                            "Ohh, little Johnny, I'll give you some candy if you just let Mommy finish the food shopping without having a meltdown in the cereal aisle!"

                            "Little Johnny, if you get all A's and B's on your report card this semester, we'll get you that new Playstation game you've been whining for!"

                            Ummm, no. Not IMO, anyway.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              You don't seem to understand the difference between bribery and a reward.

                              1. re: LeoLioness

                                Oh, I completely understand the difference. I just don't believe that kids should be rewarded for doing they're supposed to do - go to school and earn good grades.

                            2. re: pinehurst

                              No one is saying your parents were evil, except you.

                              I just find these "that's just how I was raised" posts end up sounding so..... smug, as if anyone who was raised differently is basically wrong and was raised terribly.

                              Kids these days.

                              1. re: LeoLioness

                                I know ;-). They weren't truullly evil; just strict!

                                And I'm just saying it to highlight that not too long ago, rewards weren't offered for kids doing what kids do...going to school, trying hard, working around the house.

                                1. re: pinehurst

                                  But they were. I have not been a child in a long time.

                                  Just because your parents didn't give them doesn't mean it wasn't done, or that it's a bad thing.

                                  1. re: LeoLioness

                                    Oh absolutely....I remember it being done even back in the day...it started to become common when I was started high school in the mid eighties, I think.

                                    I wonder what started the mindset of kids getting paid for good grades? My husband, for example, had undiagnosed dyslexia until 10th grade; though he was very bright, he rarely broke a B-, and he worked his a*s off. I'm glad his parents weren't "rewarding" good grades since his "Irish twin" would have cleared a tidy sum with every report card for investing 1/4 of the time in her studies.

                                    I'll admit my bias about reinforcing good behavior (whether it's academic behavior, sports achievements, being polite at your cousin's bar mitzvah or mowing the lawn) with money. I don't like the idea. OH MY GOD I'VE TURNED INTO MY PARENTS!

                                    :-)

                                    1. re: pinehurst

                                      I sent my my friend's daughter a check for graduation high school, which is arguably a reward for doing what was "expected of her". I guess I've turned into mine.

                                      1. re: LeoLioness

                                        Graduation is a life event though, or a milestone; 9th grade report cards, not so much.

                                        Regardless of our tomayto/tomahto upthread, your generosity was kind--and my parents would have done the same thing. :-)

                                        1. re: pinehurst

                                          Right.

                                          If I receive a graduation announcement a check is sent off.
                                          To me, it's no different than a birthday or bar/bat mitzvah.

                                2. re: LeoLioness

                                  <Kids these days>

                                  For me it's more 'parents these days'.
                                  I happen to be a firm believer that even though we humans have 'evolved' it doesn't necessarily mean contemporary parents are doing things better with their children.
                                  I was raised to have a very dedicated work ethic. I wasn't rewarded for it, it was expected from me. I was praised for it, thanked for it and respected for it with no money involved. In turn, I learned to appreciate what I was physically and mentally capable of. I challenged myself and good grades and good friendships were my reward. I wasn't doing it for my parents. I was doing it for me.
                                  I never received any monetary reward for grades, good behavior or anything else.
                                  Today I hear of children being rewarded with money for everything they do. What, really, is it teaching them?

                                3. re: LeoLioness

                                  Yup, got a bonus for a good report card too. But it was never even a thought in my mind when I was studying. It was just a bonus. In the end it all went to pay for post-secondary.

                                  1. re: Sooeygun

                                    I like paying for grades. I think it teaches an important life lesson -- that results matter.

                                    With all of this touchy feely everyone gets a trophy parenting going on, I like having tangible reward for kids. I really believe it helps prepare them for the real world. I work in sales, if i don't have a good year, then my bonus goes down significantly. Kids need to learn this as early as possible

                                4. re: LindaWhit

                                  We always went out to dinner for a good report card.

                                  Probably started by Pizza Hut and the three A personal pan pizza if you showed your report card. Although we did graduate to finer dining as we got older.

                                5. re: pinehurst

                                  I begged my parents for money for grades for 13 years and I never received a cent. Nor would I be rewarded for behaving well in a restaurant, it was expected.

                                6. It's a marketing ploy and evidently, a successful one.

                                  I haven't read comments about this story on other sites, but I've no doubt there are cries about how it's "unfair" to some other parents. Oh well.

                                  1. I know plenty of servers who would like to add a surcharge for the bratty kids ... see how far THAT would fly....

                                    1. We get the "old ladies" from neighboring tables stopping by on their way out to compliment us on our childrens behaviour all the time. It's nice, if a bit intrusive. I prefer the discount.

                                      It SHOULN'T be necessary to discount for the well behaved kids, but today it might be necessary. I can just imagine what a family that DOESN'T get the discount would say or do if they are aware it exists in a place... and how insulted they would be about the 'well behaved' brats that were causing a ruckus in Applebees...............................

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                                      1. re: Gastronomos

                                        This is the reason I think it is going to backfire. The very parents who *don't* know how to parent are going to think their "spirited" children merit the good-behavior discount. Who is going to draw the line? I picture it turning into just another "kids eat free" enticement - bring your kid, get $5 off no matter what.

                                      2. I once took a large group of young children out for pizza. The owner of the restaurant was so impressed with their behavior he gave us all an ice cream on the house. I expect young adults to be just that, young ADULTS! We thanked him for his generosity.