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Discount for well-behaved kids on restaurant bill

LindaWhit May 14, 2014 08:12 AM

Interesting. Considering the number of threads there have been on CH about kids in restaurants (mostly poorly behaved kids) this is a nice touch on the restaurant's part. Especially on Mother's Day, a notoriously busy day in restaurants.

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  1. pinehurst RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 08:15 AM

    I'm torn on this. It is a nice touch, but it shouldn't be necessary, sadly. I think I feel the same way about my coworkers who pay their teens for good grades ($20 per A, etc). Interesting comments on the link, too. Thanks for sharing LindaWhi.

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      LindaWhit RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 08:23 AM

      I completely agree it shouldn't be necessary, pinehurst. Sad that it's even comes into play. It was the norm for me growing up - we behaved, or we got dragged out of the restaurant (and probably got a sharp pop on the butt once we were out in the car!). We knew dining out was a *privilege*, not a right.

      Nor should kids get money for good grades. (Lord, I would have made out like a bandit as compared to my brother and sister if that were the case when I was in school! LOL)

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        LeoLioness RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 08:28 AM

        Kids shouldn't be given money for good grades because you didn't?

        I receive a monetary bonus for good work. Not much different than my grandmother sending a tenner for getting straight As.

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          LindaWhit RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 09:00 AM

          I'm glad you were able to pocket money, LeoLioness, for your good grades. My parents expected me to do my best to get good grades. But there was no monetization or bribery applied to it. A special dinner or dessert on rare occasion, but - $20 for an A? No. I earned money for the chores I did around the house. Not for grades.

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            LeoLioness RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:13 AM

            That's great but many aspects of child-rearing aren't really a "right" or "wrong" (or "should" and "shouldn't") thing.

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              Siegal RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:35 AM

              It's funny you say this bc modern parenting "rules" would say not to reward children with food for what is now a fairly obvious reason. They would suggest money/toy as a positive reinforcement

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                LindaWhit RE: Siegal May 14, 2014 09:38 AM

                Well, the special dinner out was always a surprise and, as I said - a rare occasion.

                It wasn't put out there as a carrot on a stick for us kids. And it didn't happen every single time. More often than not, we got a hug and a "We're so proud of you - good going!" That's more positive reinforcement than money/toy/food ever could be.

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                John E. RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 12:30 PM

                Heck, we didn't get paid for specific chores, but we did get an allowance when in grade school. This is going to make me sound much older than I am, but we got .50¢/week as our allowance.

                We did not get paid for grades either. Our allowance got bumped up to $5/week in the 7th grade. That was actually school lunch money, but I did not eat in the cafeteria.

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                  coll RE: John E. May 15, 2014 06:18 AM

                  We all got 25 cents a week IF we did all our chores, but it wasn't really tied in with the money. School grades were assumed to be something you wanted to be good, and the praise after bringing the report card home was all we lived for. Better than money to me.

                  I think I got bumped up to 50 cents at one point when I was a preteen but then I started babysitting like crazy and it wasn't really necessary anymore.

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                  latindancer RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 03:12 PM

                  Lucky you.

                  I never saw a dime until I started babysitting on my own outside the house around 10 yrs. old.
                  Doing chores in my family was expected…not rewarded.

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                    LindaWhit RE: latindancer May 14, 2014 07:22 PM

                    My allowance was $2.00 a week. I wasn't getting rewarded for doing my chores. It was also to help me learn money management. If I wanted a record album, I saved to buy it myself. Babysitting outside the house didn't happen until I was 12 or 13. And that was at $2.00 or $2.50/hour.

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                      latindancer RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:17 PM

                      We were, essentially, raised the same way and I look back and love it.
                      The allowance at the end of the week wasn't for anything other than some money in my bag to make sure I had a little so I wasn't without if I needed anything.
                      Like you, it helped me to learn how to budget my money until the next week. All valuable object lessons.
                      I must be older…I earned 50 cents an hour and I fed, bathed and cleaned for that hard earned money.

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                        LindaWhit RE: latindancer May 15, 2014 06:03 AM

                        It could have been less for the babysitting money (early to mid-70s). I vaguely remember getting $10 one babysitting job and being over the moon! (4-1/2 hours plus a big "tip"- so $1.50/hr might make more sense).

                        Now, as I understand it, it can be $8 to $12/hour for babysitting. And the likelihood of a 14yo girl babysitting young kids is probably nil.

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                          coll RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 06:21 AM

                          Used to be 25 cents an hour base in the 1960s when I was in that field, although some would give me lots more. I had one couple that owned a race horse, and when he won that night, oh boy!

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                            latindancer RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 11:22 AM

                            <the likelihood of a 14 yo girl babysitting young kids is probably nil>

                            I'm hoping, somewhere in this country because I've never heard of it happening where I live, there are young girls given the opportunity to babysit young kids.
                            I had a full-time job, during the summer, babysitting 3 young children in my neighborhood while both parents worked…this was during the 60's and I was young, about 12. All for 50 cents/hour. I made meals all throughout the day, cleaned the house and took care of them like they were my own…bathing them and playing with them. There is so much value in doing so, many object lessons learned, and I hope it still exists somewhere in our society.

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                              John E. RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 08:58 PM

                              I remember babysitting exactly one time when I was a 12 year old boy. The neighbors two houses down had a 4 year old boy. All I really remember is the kid would not go to bed. The parents probably came home by 11pm. I was worried they would be angry because of this. They were not as I recall. I think they inquired about hiring me again but my mother told them I was not cut out for babysitting. I did a lot of farmwork in my jr. high years like baling and stacking hay and straw, walking beans, and detassling corn. I wonder how many CHers have any idea what those last to chores entail?

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                          khh1138 RE: latindancer May 15, 2014 10:18 AM

                          Same for me - and also working in the family store! It wasn't until I got my first job outside of the family when I was 15-16 that I got paid!
                          It was just a given that we were all in this together, and everyone had to pitch in and do their part. Getting good grades in school was my full-time job, and helping out around the house and in the store was my second job. No $ ever changed hands, but my mum did take me book shopping every month!

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                            latindancer RE: khh1138 May 15, 2014 11:29 AM

                            I'm surrounded by kids who're given cars, phones, money and everything else under the sun *just* because they're part of the family. They don't have to work for anything.
                            I'm appalled at the parents who think they're doing the right thing by giving their 10 yo children iPhones and using the excuse it's because they need to reach their children if need be. After the iPhone what's next for a 10 yo? How high does the bar go?
                            Yes…book shopping and the library were huge outings for me too.
                            Great post, khh.

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                            debbiel RE: latindancer May 15, 2014 05:43 PM

                            Ditto my family. No allowance. Just do what is expected.

                            In terms of grades, straight A's supposedly earned you a steak dinner out with Dad. But he never really followed up on it. It became a running joke. I had my sixth grade teacher put a steak house menu in my report card envelope as a joke.

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                          pinehurst RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 09:21 AM

                          No, kids shouldn't be given money for good grades because one should do one's best all the time because it's the right thing to do....not because of a cash incentive. My parents--neither of whom went to college--were great proponents of the idea that education was a reward in itself.

                          Of course, that was only the culture in my home. I had evil, old-fashioned parents. I didn't get an allowance, either--had to do chores because everyone was expected in around the house, including the kid.

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                            LindaWhit RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 09:36 AM

                            Ahhh, those evil old-fashioned parents, pinehurst. Yup, had 'em too.

                            And LeoLioness - bribing kids shouldn't be done, IMO.

                            "Ohh, little Johnny, I'll give you some candy if you just let Mommy finish the food shopping without having a meltdown in the cereal aisle!"

                            "Little Johnny, if you get all A's and B's on your report card this semester, we'll get you that new Playstation game you've been whining for!"

                            Ummm, no. Not IMO, anyway.

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                              LeoLioness RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:57 AM

                              You don't seem to understand the difference between bribery and a reward.

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                                LindaWhit RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 10:13 AM

                                Oh, I completely understand the difference. I just don't believe that kids should be rewarded for doing they're supposed to do - go to school and earn good grades.

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                              LeoLioness RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 09:56 AM

                              No one is saying your parents were evil, except you.

                              I just find these "that's just how I was raised" posts end up sounding so..... smug, as if anyone who was raised differently is basically wrong and was raised terribly.

                              Kids these days.

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                                pinehurst RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 10:01 AM

                                I know ;-). They weren't truullly evil; just strict!

                                And I'm just saying it to highlight that not too long ago, rewards weren't offered for kids doing what kids do...going to school, trying hard, working around the house.

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                                  LeoLioness RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 10:13 AM

                                  But they were. I have not been a child in a long time.

                                  Just because your parents didn't give them doesn't mean it wasn't done, or that it's a bad thing.

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                                    pinehurst RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 12:12 PM

                                    Oh absolutely....I remember it being done even back in the day...it started to become common when I was started high school in the mid eighties, I think.

                                    I wonder what started the mindset of kids getting paid for good grades? My husband, for example, had undiagnosed dyslexia until 10th grade; though he was very bright, he rarely broke a B-, and he worked his a*s off. I'm glad his parents weren't "rewarding" good grades since his "Irish twin" would have cleared a tidy sum with every report card for investing 1/4 of the time in her studies.

                                    I'll admit my bias about reinforcing good behavior (whether it's academic behavior, sports achievements, being polite at your cousin's bar mitzvah or mowing the lawn) with money. I don't like the idea. OH MY GOD I'VE TURNED INTO MY PARENTS!

                                    :-)

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                                      LeoLioness RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 12:22 PM

                                      I sent my my friend's daughter a check for graduation high school, which is arguably a reward for doing what was "expected of her". I guess I've turned into mine.

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                                        pinehurst RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 03:49 PM

                                        Graduation is a life event though, or a milestone; 9th grade report cards, not so much.

                                        Regardless of our tomayto/tomahto upthread, your generosity was kind--and my parents would have done the same thing. :-)

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                                          latindancer RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 04:01 PM

                                          Right.

                                          If I receive a graduation announcement a check is sent off.
                                          To me, it's no different than a birthday or bar/bat mitzvah.

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                                  latindancer RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 03:55 PM

                                  <Kids these days>

                                  For me it's more 'parents these days'.
                                  I happen to be a firm believer that even though we humans have 'evolved' it doesn't necessarily mean contemporary parents are doing things better with their children.
                                  I was raised to have a very dedicated work ethic. I wasn't rewarded for it, it was expected from me. I was praised for it, thanked for it and respected for it with no money involved. In turn, I learned to appreciate what I was physically and mentally capable of. I challenged myself and good grades and good friendships were my reward. I wasn't doing it for my parents. I was doing it for me.
                                  I never received any monetary reward for grades, good behavior or anything else.
                                  Today I hear of children being rewarded with money for everything they do. What, really, is it teaching them?

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                                    latindancer RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 03:59 PM

                                    edit.

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                                  Sooeygun RE: LeoLioness May 14, 2014 09:39 AM

                                  Yup, got a bonus for a good report card too. But it was never even a thought in my mind when I was studying. It was just a bonus. In the end it all went to pay for post-secondary.

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                                    DukeFan RE: Sooeygun May 15, 2014 05:38 AM

                                    I like paying for grades. I think it teaches an important life lesson -- that results matter.

                                    With all of this touchy feely everyone gets a trophy parenting going on, I like having tangible reward for kids. I really believe it helps prepare them for the real world. I work in sales, if i don't have a good year, then my bonus goes down significantly. Kids need to learn this as early as possible

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                                  melpy RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 08:41 AM

                                  We always went out to dinner for a good report card.

                                  Probably started by Pizza Hut and the three A personal pan pizza if you showed your report card. Although we did graduate to finer dining as we got older.

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                                  fldhkybnva RE: pinehurst May 14, 2014 02:48 PM

                                  I begged my parents for money for grades for 13 years and I never received a cent. Nor would I be rewarded for behaving well in a restaurant, it was expected.

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                                  LeoLioness RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 08:17 AM

                                  It's a marketing ploy and evidently, a successful one.

                                  I haven't read comments about this story on other sites, but I've no doubt there are cries about how it's "unfair" to some other parents. Oh well.

                                  1. Cheflambo RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:17 AM

                                    I know plenty of servers who would like to add a surcharge for the bratty kids ... see how far THAT would fly....

                                    1. Gastronomos RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:18 AM

                                      We get the "old ladies" from neighboring tables stopping by on their way out to compliment us on our childrens behaviour all the time. It's nice, if a bit intrusive. I prefer the discount.

                                      It SHOULN'T be necessary to discount for the well behaved kids, but today it might be necessary. I can just imagine what a family that DOESN'T get the discount would say or do if they are aware it exists in a place... and how insulted they would be about the 'well behaved' brats that were causing a ruckus in Applebees...............................

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                                        khh1138 RE: Gastronomos May 14, 2014 10:07 AM

                                        This is the reason I think it is going to backfire. The very parents who *don't* know how to parent are going to think their "spirited" children merit the good-behavior discount. Who is going to draw the line? I picture it turning into just another "kids eat free" enticement - bring your kid, get $5 off no matter what.

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                                        treb RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:27 AM

                                        I once took a large group of young children out for pizza. The owner of the restaurant was so impressed with their behavior he gave us all an ice cream on the house. I expect young adults to be just that, young ADULTS! We thanked him for his generosity.

                                        1. ttoommyy RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 10:34 AM

                                          I'd like a discount for my good behavior when I go to a restaurant. I look around and see/hear idiots at other tables and my heart goes out to the poor server having to wait on them. I, on the other hand, am always on my best behavior. Where's my discount? :)

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                                            Hobbert RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 10:47 AM

                                            If I bring my cats and they're well behaved, do I get a discount?

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                                              treb RE: Hobbert May 14, 2014 11:11 AM

                                              Only if they're trained to clean the food scraps on the floor.

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                                                Hobbert RE: treb May 14, 2014 11:13 AM

                                                Eh, they're pretty picky. I've been trying to get them to eat bugs but they refuse. Bums.

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                                                BiscuitBoy RE: Hobbert May 14, 2014 01:09 PM

                                                Not to a Chinese place

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                                                thingmaker RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 11:25 AM

                                                From reading the article I think this was a 1 time thing, not a marketing gimmick. Awesome!

                                                A nice family story to tell when the kids are getting rowdy. ;)

                                                1. PHREDDY RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 01:04 PM

                                                  Ok...I saw this too, and shook my head...my brother has a special need child...she was really difficult in those settings...but we all went anyway...most servers/establishments were tolerant...
                                                  Trust me there will be some a--hole who will file a claim for discrimination...it will happen...
                                                  You try to be nice but they naysayers take it to the gutter!!!

                                                  1. jrvedivici RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 01:21 PM

                                                    While I agree with the over all sentiment or good will of this idea, I think it should actually be reversed. I think that people with children behaving well, as they should in a restaurant shouldn't be rewarded for doing the "right thing". However I do think that a family who has children who are acting up, and not being parented or corrected by their parents, the parents should pay a penalty for everyone else's inconvenience.

                                                    So instead of the house giving a discount, the offensive family get's charged an extra $5.00 for every table within a 20ft circumference of them. Then the $5.00 is credited to the diners within 20ft who were affected by the lil misbehaving bastards!

                                                    That's how it would work in Jr's world.

                                                    (Please note, I know kids are kids and might act up etc. That's only natural but it's up to the parents to do something about it, I'm not trying to chastise children for being children, but for parents not being parents and letting their child run wild)

                                                    1. steve h. RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 04:00 PM

                                                      Sounds like restaurant management/staff are rewarding parents who have raised well-mannered children.

                                                      Nothing wrong with that.

                                                      1. emglow101 RE: LindaWhit May 14, 2014 09:29 PM

                                                        So if I brought my seventeen year old daughter to this restaurant I would get a discount, for her well behavior and etiquette. She's still a kid.

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                                                          Uncle Yabai RE: emglow101 May 15, 2014 01:12 AM

                                                          Does your daughter agree with your assessment?

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                                                            PHREDDY RE: emglow101 May 15, 2014 04:13 AM

                                                            And if my mom brought me to the restaurant and I was good, would she get the reward? I am almost 60 she is 84...

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                                                              LindaWhit RE: emglow101 May 15, 2014 06:35 AM

                                                              I would suspect there's an age limit.

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                                                              rockycat RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 04:40 AM

                                                              I don't get drunk, talk overly loudly, and annoy the cr*p out of other diners. Can I get a discount, too?

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                                                                Harters RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 05:01 AM

                                                                It'd never happen here in Europe, where there's a general expectation that children will behave "properly", on the one hand, and as children on the other hand.

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                                                                  LindaWhit RE: Harters May 15, 2014 06:35 AM

                                                                  When you expect children to behave, and there are consequences if they don't, they usually behave. Funny how that happens.

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                                                                    jrvedivici RE: LindaWhit May 15, 2014 07:45 AM

                                                                    You are 100% correct, I personally cannot stand this "I'm my child's best friend" mentality a lot of parents have. My kids (daughter 18 son 16) have asked me why I won't be their "friend" on Facebook, my response; "Because I'm not your friend, I'm your father".

                                                                    Do I want my kids to see me as approachable and come to me when they have problems etc. of course, and thus far they do come to me or their mother, but there are consequences and there are lines that are drawn. They are my children, not my contemporary, not my "friend".

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