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May 9, 2014 10:24 AM

ISO: high quality Old Fashioned cocktail (2014 edition)

ISO Old Fashioned cocktail. Had a stellar version at Littlefork last night, think I'm in love now.

Where else can I find excellent renditions of this cocktail in LA right now?

NoHo/Studio City/Universal City/Hollywood/DTLA preferred.

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  1. you'll be spending $35 and up but ten pound above scarpettas makes amazing old fashioneds and similar drinks using all sorts of cool stuff. money worth it for the location (outside private balconies), fine crystal, ice and water selection, and yes, a super hot hostess.... or just get the 10k / shot whisky....

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    1. re: jessejames

      they have a 64 y/o macallan @ 64g's O_O

      thx for the link but I really can't justify a $30 old fashioned O_O unless it's the famed PVW old fashioned (lol)

      1. re: ns1

        well you get a nice array of free aps incl. nuts, dry gouda, and bacon ... but yeah the shit's expensive...but as far as the best whiskey cocktails I've had in town, no place comes close to this spot...fantastic bartending.

      2. re: jessejames

        Not sure I wanna spend quite that much for a cocktail (but maybe the gratis munchies makes it palatable [pun not entirely intended]), but I drink at the Scarpetta bar after work semi-often and was ignorant of a bar upstairs (much less the presence of a super hot hostess). Not wanting to miss out on any of those experiences, where is this upstairs bar and how is it accessed? Is ten pound the name?

        1. re: Wayno

          here's all the info with the phone number...I think they open at 5pm. not for everyday drinking but a splurge....ask them to show you the ice selection too incl. from Japanese volcanos, Scotland, and frozen soap stone (no melt), to spheres, and other stuff....drinking out of lalique crystal ain't shabby either....but make a reservation and ask for the private balcony which is better than inside...I tend to ask the bartender to recommend a whisky cocktail and they can spell out the options including a wide array of bitters and other stuff.

          1. re: jessejames

            what the hell is this "ice selection" you speak of?

            btw, here are pics of menu and stuff


            1. re: ns1

              you really gotta see it to believe it, but different water, different shapes, some not even ice at all (ie soapstone), for the old fashioned you can get a completely clear large sphere of some kind of subvolcanic Japanese water...point of large single sphere is less melt than bunch of cubes...for single malts, get some fresh water from Scotland...just ask the bartender to show you the ice selection...they prepare and make the drinks tableside (actually sofa and coffeetable) side on the balcony.

              non surprisingly, this is a place where if you tip nicely, and remember the name of the bartender you will be rewarded on your return

              1. re: jessejames


                it actually seems like a really cool place to drop a c note or two. You simply need to buy a drink (or two) to get access to the balcony?

                I saw a cigar on one of those pics, so do they sell cigars too or did that person just bring a cigar there?

                1. re: ns1

                  or three or four or five (ie, bugs bunny, one lump or two?)

                  I love it. makes for a special occasion. amazing drinks. I still think you're best (value wise) asking for a special whisky cocktail using some rare bourbon or rye than getting into the single malts.

      3. If you are willing to travel west, I'll bet you will find a great Old Fashioned at Bar Toscana. They make the best Manhattan I have ever tasted. Bartender told me he also makes a wickedly wonderful Old Fashioned.

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        1. re: maudies5

          As you and I have agreed with each other on this point previously, that IS a really good bar. (And I actually like the fact that my lovely SO can be unabashedly taken by the good looking, as well as skilled, bartenders, and vocalize her admiration for them, as it gives me dispensation when I am similarly infatuated.)

          1. re: Wayno

            I wish that place was not so loud. But the drinks are great and the staff, and clientele, indeed, provide retinal gratification.

            Wayno - I would say your comment (about your SO and the hunk-tenders at BT) is a minority view (but a fascinating one) on something most others would take umbrage at. It reminds me a bit of something my college roommate's brother imparted to me 3 decades ago:
            "Bob, do you know what the greatest compliment a woman can ever give you in bed?" he asked.
            "Uhhh, no, Eddie, I don't. What?"
            "She can moan out another dude's name when she's with you!"
            Shocked, I replied, "C'mon Eddie, how can THAT be good?"
            "Because it means your so f*#@ing great, she has no idea who the f#@k she's with!"

            1. re: Ciao Bob

              LOL, Bob. Your anecdote could lead me to several of my own, but it would be inappropriate for this venue. But, as for BT, I also like the food, especially when peas are in season and they offer their fresh pea salad. One of my favorite salads ever.

              1. re: Ciao Bob

                see how that works when you pay your lady the same kind of compliment!

            2. re: maudies5

              How have I never been here for drink?! Just checked out the cocktail menu, and it looks awesome! I'll have to go here soon for classic cocktails and grilled calamari.

              1. re: maudies5

                Just tried and agree! Bar Toscana makes a great Old Fashioned, Manhattan, Martini, and Sazerac. Knowledgeable bartenders. Pricey though. Found plenty of free parking on Bringham Ave around the corner (where San Vicente curves) on Saturday night around 8 pm.

                1. re: phamschottler

                  find me one person in LA besides 10 Pound that can make a good sazerac please!

              2. also ISO old fashioned near the greek theater.

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                1. re: ns1

                  I've had nice drinks at yee rustic inn and the drawing room. Gourmet stuff? No. Messhall may have what you are looking for.

                  1. re: jessejames

                    yeah I've dined at Messhall before around the time they first opened up and enjoyed my meal; if I can't find anything else I'll probably return.

                    Have you been lately?

                    1. re: ns1

                      Not in a while either but I liked it too. I'm a wing nut so when I'm around there I usually hit up ye rustic. I like the casual scene and proximity to the Greek. Good show coming up?

                      1. re: jessejames

                        MJK's 50th birthday (A Perfect Circle / Puscifer / Failure) tmr night at the greek! Haven't been back there in a while. The only question is if I'm feeling baller enough for the $90 bottle of Moet to last me the night.

                        I guess that's what, 2 cocktails @ ten pound? haha.

                        1. re: ns1

                          Or less than one depending on what u get!

                          Nothing says Moët better than a tool (right?) concert!

                          Have fun!

                  2. re: ns1

                    Near the Greek, go to Mess Hall.

                    1. re: ns1


                      little dom's has surprisingly good drinks, pretty well made. i'm sure they could hook you up with an old fashioned.

                      the morrison's cocktails are hit and miss. little dom's is better.

                      downtown, you cannot go wrong with an old fashioned at cole's, or inside at the varnish.

                      acabar, hollywoodish, has very, very good drinks. no reason to think they couldn't do an excellent old fashioned.

                      1. re: ns1

                        Mess Hall will have an accomodating Old Fashioned.

                        The one at the Tam O' Shanter is even better, though.

                      2. Best rendition I've had is at NEAT in Glendale.

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                        1. re: revets2

                          Isn't that kind of self defeating? Making a cocktail at a neat bar?

                            1. re: ns1

                              neat is an odd duck. when they opened, they had this
                              whole philosophy about neat whiskey and house made chasers.

                              when i went, about a year ago, that had gone by the wayside, and it was just a "regular" kinda bar.
                              that said, i had really good bartender, and he made
                              a high quality drink.

                          1. £10 (@ Montage)

                            Seven Grand