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Some have posted that the place is to die for, but it's not on JT's "Best Ten" list for 2014..................

Did I miss the memo?

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  1. My Best Ten for each year is Year by Year (I thought that made sense) but I did do one from 2006-2011 where it's #5
    http://johntalbottsparis.typepad.com/...
    I do think "its to die for, still, after all these years."
    Which reminds me I gotta do 2014 to present.

    1. ....and some don't think its that good.

      1. Hmmmmmmmmm................

        1. Is this a rhetorical question or are you trying to decide whether or not a visit is still in order? John's lists tend to be those he considers the best of the new kids on the block during any given time-frame. He doesn't necessarily suggest that previously "bests of" should not still be considered. Since I think ZKG is still on his beat, I would think of it as grandfathered into his hall of fame until he tells us otherwise.

          But as Phil suggests, YMMV.

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          1. re: mangeur

            "I think ZKG is still on his beat, I would think of it as grandfathered into his hall of fame until he tells us otherwise."
            I go every three months and am constantly pleased and amazed.
            I will post a list of all time favorites 2006-present as soon as get a break from peddling publications.

            1. re: John Talbott

              And I don't mind at all that you always like ZKG. It's groovy.

            2. re: mangeur

              I read in JT's review of BAT that several of the staff were ZKG grads and also noticed ZKG does not appear on JT's 2014 BEST Ten list and thought, JT thinks all the good guys left! Plus there's the PhilD factor.
              That's why I asked if I had missed the memo.

            3. So much for ZKG!

              Although I replied to their email asking about our intentions, they cancelled us....
              I'll think twice before reserving here again. I have guests and need to scramble for a reservation.......

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              1. re: hychka

                Uh, were your intentions not honorable ?
                Sorriest about the joke.
                Why doesn't it just tell you it is full the first time? Not good service.
                Which day of the week are you now scrambling for a table ?

                1. re: hychka

                  Oooh, sorry! While I have no idea what happened at ZKG, I will warn diners that it is mandatory to confirm many hot restaurants either the day before or day of your reservation. If you have left a number with them, many will call the afternoon of to reconfirm. They wash out unreconfirmed reservations, often at noon.

                  Sad for the losing parties, but we have picked up several hard to book tables at the last minute because of this practice.

                  1. re: mangeur

                    We replied to their email YESTERDAY! They cancelled today. I noticed it three hours before we were to be there. Now we'll have pizza or Chinese.

                    1. re: hychka

                      For tonight ?
                      Try Les Canailles, Encore, the Chaméléon in the 10th, Bistro Bellet.
                      Even Dans les Landes.
                      (goes without saying: call first.)

                      And re Ze, was it a negative reply to your reservation request? Or was it a cancellation, which means it had first confirmed your reservation, then canceled it?

                      1. re: Parigi

                        We had Chinese.

                  2. re: hychka

                    Maybe the lesson to learn is that the phone is your friend in Paris. Most restaurants book via the phone and thus email is secondary and therefore it will be less reliable. I see a lot more internet based booking forms these days - but it will be interesting to see how reliable these are.

                    You say you emailed them, but it sounds like they had not emailed back to confirm, and the reply you got was to say they had no space. Thus rather than them accepting a reservation and then cancelling it could be that there was actually never a confirmed reservation to start with.

                    It would be good to understand this as at the moment it sounds like poor form from the restaurant but was it?

                    1. re: PhilD

                      Not so. My iPad shows a very complete back and forth including an in Paris confirmation of our intentions to make good on our reservations when asked a full day in advance. As to will text and email over take the telephone...they have already just as paper has overtaken chiseled rock.

                      1. re: hychka

                        So just to be clear - they sent you an email to cancel your reservation and they had written to you with a confirmed time and date or at least a clear confirmation of your reservation of the date you requested.

                        I am sorry this seems pedantic but it really isn't that clear from your description of events.

                        1. re: PhilD

                          I reserved by through their web page.
                          They confirmed.
                          I thanked them via email.
                          They asked for re confirmation a day before our date by email.
                          I replied in the affirmative by email reply.
                          The next day they tried to reach me , again! Asking for confirmation, while we were off enjoying the city. I realized we had been cancelled less than three hours before sit down time.
                          I had two guests to apologize to.
                          We scrambled for Chinese.
                          Is that clear enough?

                          1. re: hychka

                            "As to will text and email over take the telephone...they have already just as paper has overtaken chiseled rock." - are you certain they have got this level of maturity in Paris? I thought internet based reservations were fairly new and most people still used the phone.

                            So back to my first comment: "Maybe the lesson to learn is that the phone is your friend in Paris."

                  3. So much for ZKG!

                    Although I replied to their email asking about our intentions, they cancelled us....
                    I think twice before reserving here again. I have guests and need to scramble for a reservation.......

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                    1. re: hychka

                      Wow just the opposite of my experiences. Sorry.

                      1. re: John Talbott

                        Not your fault. They are just too busy. I'm over being angry. Chinese was good Chinese plus we had Ben and Jerry's at home.

                        1. re: hychka

                          No, of course not; did you think of wrangling a substitute rez at KGB.

                          1. re: John Talbott

                            HA!

                            1. re: John Talbott

                              If someone messes up my reservation, I eat else where...especially with as many choices as we have here.

                        2. re: hychka

                          Although not applicable to most gotta-plan-it-all tourists, I rarely book more than a day or two in advance and usually get a table... I call it cancellation vulturing. And no need to re-confirm. But not, of course, advisable at weekends.

                          But the real lesson is to always have a plan B in your back pocket in case things do go wrong. With such an abundance of great restaurants in Paris, improvisations are easy.

                          1. re: Parnassien

                            Yes, and I'm thinking this mad chase for the finest experience is over the top. We have had three last minute meals due to Metro break down, heavy rain, and now a botched reservation and all is well...the substitutes were disappointing only in that our plans weren't kept and those missed experiences have now slipped past. Paris is laced with fine food.

                            1. re: Parnassien

                              Yes Parnassian but people like you & I have the luxury of Plan B or C and can try the next day, indeed, if the place has no room today, I'll sometimes ask about tmrw.