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Apr 30, 2014 07:08 AM

would you guys help me set up my new kitchen?

thanks to you all for all of your advice (cab height, toaster ovens, microwaves, spice storage....). it was so helpful, and i was hoping to ask your help with one more thing. setting up. I have a lot of cabs to work with, and i know that my last kitchen set up wasn't ideal. I can't put my finger on how....was it that there were fewer, which we have remedied? or the size and shape of them, which has improved vastly? or did i just put stuff in stupid places? i'd appreciate all suggestions as to how I should go about deciding what goes where? I think that i may actually be able to fit every single kitchen item i own in my actual kitchen. right now baking stuff is out in the back hallway. linens are in a closet or two, serving stuff is in a dining room cab, and extra dishes and glassware for large events are stored in storage thingies in the basement and in the dining room cab. maybe the cookbooks could even find a home....

all the bottom cabs are drawers except for the corner which is a lazy susan. i have a couple of spice rack pull out thingies built in, too.

i think i'd like all the food to go near the fridge....and then i'd like a baking station in the far left corner by the second oven. put all the pans and kitchen aid and mixing bowls and measuring cups there, and baking ingredients in the cabinet. but i don't know if i should separate that from the rest of the food. and i'd like to have the coffee to the counter to the left of the fridge (counters are coming the day after tomorrow). and the trash can is going in the far right island cab.

how do you set up your kitchens?

Again, i know i've asked more than i've given recently, but i really am grateful for your help.

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  1. Oooh. Pretty. Really beautiful.

    For me, I would set up basics close to the appliance.

    Flatware - top drawer in between dw and range.
    Everyday dishes, in the cabinets above the dishwasher. Maybe the daily cups as well. This way, when you empty the dishwasher, everything is right there.

    For the baking stuff, maybe the island? When I bake, I like to spread out more and put everything on the counter before I start. That counter to the left of the second oven looks small and too cramped for me to work.

    Spices, Do you have two spice racks? I would put most of them on the upper spice rack. I hated bending over to look for the spices.

    ETA: I love the pendant lights. I was trying to convince my husband for one pendant light, in between the two upper cabinets where the sink is. I even bought one very similar. He nixed it and I didn't care all that much. I still think it would have looked quite nice though.

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    1. re: beetlebug

      great! this is why i asked. never even thought about the dishwasher when deciding where to put plates. before plates were where you suggested, but cups were way the hell by the fridge.

      yes, two spice racks. and i thought about putting most up top only because they'd be farther from a heat source. didn't even consider the bending.

      The "baking counter" goes all the way from the wall over the first oven up to the range. more than 60 inches. still too small in your opinion?

      1. re: eLizard

        Wow, 60 inches. That's 5 feet! (I'm in awe). Actually, I forgot about the counter space over the oven. I don't think it's too small, it just looked smaller in the picture as well as my miscalculation. But, will you feel cramped with the wall to your left?

        Also, I don't have an island so my brain didn't quite comprehend organization with it. But, another thought about flatware and dishes is to place them in the island so that you turn around to put the dishes away. And, dishes in the drawer may be easier for your kid to access. To me, the key is to not have to carry the stuff more then a few steps to put it away.

        1. re: beetlebug

          the island is a hair over 8 feet by a hair over 3 feet.

          and dishes in the island is a brilliant idea. i could also put the oils in the spice racks by removing a shelf or two.

          i don't know if i'd feel cramped. i'm a righty, so i don't think so, but who knows?

        2. re: eLizard

          Now I WOULDN'T have those over the DW :) I have coffee mugs and everyday glassware there and it's a pain when the DW door is down to reach around it. I never thought about changing it but now I have :)

      2. For the cabinets above the second oven, I would put the daily used oils and sauces. For me, it would be peanut oil, the soy sauces, sesame oil, etc. I use those constantly and want them close to the stove for instant access.

        I'm really amazed at how much space you have in the kitchen, especially since you are live in an urban area. I'm a wee bit jealous of the space even though I am really happy with my kitchen as well.

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        1. re: beetlebug

          thank you. i live in the dorchester neighborhood in boston, 3 t stops from south station. we got very lucky with the kitchen.

          and now to talk about form over function, i would only hesitate to put the the oils and such in the cabinet you mentioned because it's glass front and and i thought my pretty white dishes would look good there. but i have so many oils and vinegars, they used to go above the sink, IIRC. i hope i didn't paint myself into a corner with those glass cabs. the electrician is coming today for the hardwired lighting.

          1. re: eLizard

            Maybe the oils and vinegars can go into the lower spice rack? The pretty white dishes, if they aren't used daily can also go into that beautiful hutch you have.

            Maybe I should just pop over from the other side of the river to help you organize...

            1. re: beetlebug

              that hutch is all smoke and mirrors. they're all wall cabinets stacked up on top of eachother! and i was thinking the very same thing. all my plates, good china, everyday, and entertaining catering stuff is all white. so i think putting them in that hutch is a good idea. thanks. i hope that the linens will fit in the drawers. which are shallow. very shallow.

              you're in the people's republic of cambridge? is your passport in order?

              1. re: eLizard

                Passport is updated and ready to go. I leave the republic all the time for Somerville and Allston.

                If you put the flatware in the island, you can then use the drawer to the right of the range for (aargh, can't think of what it's called), the glove you wear to take hot stuff out of the oven. And, the square things to put hot pans on. That way you can easily grab one to throw on your hand or counter. Total brain block on the terminology right now.

                The glass cabinets (formally suggested for oils) - maybe everyday serving dishes for easy access.

                I keep all my baking ingredients in the same drawer. All the flours, sugars, chocolates, etc. Although baking spices (cinnamon, vanilla, baking powder) I keep with the rest of my spices. This way, I take out everything I need and put it right on my counter so I'm ready to go.

                1. re: beetlebug

                  oven mits. lmao.

                  and i used to live in allston/brighton.

        2. Pretty! Of course it all depends on how and what you cook but for me, it is important to have dishes as close to the dishwasher as possible for easy emptying. In addition, I like to have kitchen utensils - wooden spoons, tongs, spatulas, etc. to be to the right of the stovetop. Mine are in metal cans and I can easily reach them while in front of the stove. I also want herbs and spices not far from the stove as I'm often adding them last minute to dishes and, basically, suck at mise en place.

          Cans and jars can be a little further from the main cooking action as I generally pull those out before I start cooking.

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          1. Do spend some time thinking about what will go where. Having gone through a few moves and kitchen remodels. My experience is when you unpack and put things away. Where you put them tends to be where they stay forever. I know, you can rearrange later. But it tends not to happen.

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            1. re: mike0989

              agreed. thank you. i did do a rearrange in my last kitchen. it was still unsatisfactory.

            2. Hello, Gorgeous! Classic and classy, and so timeless. Great kitchen!

              +1 to flatware everything Beetlebug said about flatware and everyday dishes in the island. That's my current flatware setup and I love it. In my last rental I had dishes under the flatware drawer and it was ideal.

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              1. re: DuffyH

                never even considered flatware in island! hmmmm. great idea. plates definitely by dishwasher. where to put the glasses? i'll think about that.

                thank you so much for the compliments. it means a lot to me that you've said that. you've been so helpful. and that is EXACTLY the aesthetic that i was going for.... timeless, classic. tasteful.

                1. re: eLizard

                  With the coffee bar next to the fridge, how about the glassware in the upper corner cab or the one to it's left? They'll be near the fridge for drinks, only a few steps from the DW, yet out of the way of the main cooking/cleaning area giving guests and kids easy access without getting underfoot.

                  1. re: DuffyH

                    that's an excellent idea. i forgot all about that cabinet to the left of the corner above the sink.

                  2. re: eLizard

                    If the island is the seating area for meals, then flatware and dishes in the island make sense. We have a separate eat-in area with a table and have our dishes and flatware near there.

                    I'd put your glasses in the mullioned (glass-fronted) cabinets. It's what we've done. You want those cabinets to contain "pretty items."

                    1. re: masha

                      yes, the island is where we will eat. i'm liking the plates and flatware in the island more and more.

                      i'm all for glass cabs having the pretty things. i'd just like them to be pretty useful..... and my daily glasses are probably not the best to go there. but my extra white plates and stemware would look nice. it's just not that useful..... oh well. first world problems.

                      1. re: eLizard

                        Whatever works for you. One other advantage of putting glasses in the glass cabinets is that it makes it easy for guests to find them. Guests often seem to be in hunt for glasses when I am busy with something else (e.g., early stages of a dinner party, when I am putting out apps or finishing up prep of the main course). So putting your stemware may be a good idea.

                        1. re: masha

                          again, another thing i never thought of. i'm so glad i asked. thanks for your input.