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jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 12:02 PM

Good for a laugh: http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/guy-fi...

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  1. linguafood RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 12:15 PM

    Oh. My. God.

    Thank you for this!!

    Some choice quotes:

    "If there's one thing I'm learning from this menu, it's that Guy Fieri's brain pretty much has three settings: smother, smear, and drench. I don't even want to think about what that implies about his sex life.

    You're welcome for that mental image."

    "If the words "smeared with Guy's famous donkey sauce" don't insta-dry your lady parts/cause your balls to ascend into your man treehouse, there is something deeply wrong with you."

    1. Veggo RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 12:16 PM

      Highest price item is $17. If you can get a cheapo meal and a brew on the strip for a green chip, that's not too bad.

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        JeremyEG RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 12:51 PM

        Amazing.
        JeremyEG
        HomeCookLocavore.com

        1. c oliver RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 12:53 PM

          I think somehow the "person" was never told that Vegas' rep is now fine food not crap like this. And whoever wrote that menu should be fired. For under $10/pp you can go to one of these places and probably even be able to figure out in advance just WTF you're going to be eating:

          http://www.examiner.com/article/twent...

          Or you can go to the Cafe at the Bellagio, spend less, the same or a little more and get some really good food:

          https://www.bellagio.com/files/restau...

          I think this quote from the article describes him and his food:

          "It takes a truly special human being to combine pretension and douchebro-ed-ness into something that, when you take a step back, starts to look like elaborate, brilliant performance art. Guy Fieri is that human, except that nothing he does is intended as satire."

          Shiver :(

          1. Veggo RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 01:26 PM

            I have a special admiration for overachievers, and I hope some day to be one.

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              LongIslandChef RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 02:39 PM

              I can't stop laughing after reading this review. Reminds me of when the New York Times destroyed his Times Square place last year. Amzing that he gets away with putting out pure crap food and can still draw people in droves.

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                c oliver RE: LongIslandChef Apr 24, 2014 02:50 PM

                As I mentioned on another thread, we were in Europe recently and I overheard an American couple who said their first meal out when they got home was going to be Olive Garden. At least you know what you're getting there. At Times Square and Vegas there are still going to be that LCD (lowest common denominator) crowd. And despite how he claims otherwise on that tv show, I'm willing to be that a Sysco-esque type truck pulls up out back regularly :) It certainly does at those DDD places.

              2. ellenost RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 03:00 PM

                This was the funniest thing I've read all week (maybe the whole month). Not a chance it makes it to my top 4 restaurants (actually it's probably dead last).

                1. Veggo RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 03:28 PM

                  It 's working class bar food. They arrive in busses by the thousands every day with dreams of hitting a $400 jackpot. Notice how much gaming floor space in Vegas is allocated to low cost slots. They have to eat somewhere. Think of it as McD's without the arches. He is not competing with Joel Robuchon for the 1%ers.

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                    ellenost RE: Veggo Apr 24, 2014 03:33 PM

                    Comparing Guy to McD is an insult to McD.

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                      Veggo RE: ellenost Apr 24, 2014 03:41 PM

                      I haven't tried both. I did thoroughly enjoy one of his featured restos in Ft. Worth. I'm a bit turned off by the traveling hairdresser and the Lamborghini he drove in real life until it was stolen. Not as humble as Pope Francis.

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                      FattyDumplin RE: Veggo Apr 24, 2014 03:48 PM

                      I'm with you Veggo. More power to him. I don't begrudge people who are fortunate enough to find a way to legally make vast amounts of money. All about supply and demand and clearly there is enough demand for his schtick and food.

                      That being said, not sure there is too much on his menu I want to try and its definitely not McD's priced. But most of it sounds fairly innocuous (ridiculous descriptions aside) and hell, I'd be interested in the Mac&Cheese Burger.

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                        c oliver RE: FattyDumplin Apr 24, 2014 04:10 PM

                        Mac and Cheese burgers are one of those trendy things that has gotten down to chain level. And for those prices you can get 'real' food with normal names. That place just seems like a joke - a joke on the suckers who eat there. BTW, I've eaten at three (that I know of) places on that show. The first two aren't DDorDs and the third one sucks and has for decades.

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                          FattyDumplin RE: c oliver Apr 24, 2014 04:16 PM

                          Hey, I totally hear you. I haven't been to any of his restaurants (no interest at those prices, as you said), but have tried a couple of his DDDs in NorCal and they were pretty good, especially The Refuge, which I really enjoy. Yeah, he's clearly preying on the LCD, but lots of people / businesses do, so I don't hold that against him.

                    3. c oliver RE: jbsiegel Apr 24, 2014 04:32 PM

                      Oh my, I just saw that Yelp - yes, YELP! - only gave the NYC branch 2-1/2 stars. Don't fast food chains do better than that? :)

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                        uhockey RE: c oliver Apr 24, 2014 06:22 PM

                        Yet the Yelpers here lined up (80+ people on the list of people trying to get 20 spots) for it.

                        sickening.

                        ....so, anyone wanna meet up for some Donkey Sauce?

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                          c oliver RE: uhockey Apr 24, 2014 06:28 PM

                          I'll pass but thanks for your oh-so-kind offer :)

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                            QAW RE: uhockey Apr 24, 2014 10:42 PM

                            At some point, a few of us really should go over and "take one for the team". I did walk by tonight before having something at a slightly higher level of culinary sophistication (the Roman-style Porchetta Pizza, with Sicilian Pistachios, Crucolo cheese and caramelized onions at Lavo), and there was a fairly long line of people waiting to get in. Perhaps that should not come as a surprise. Is there anything on the menu that is a magnet? Not really (OK, I'll admit that the onion rings look good in photos; while at the same time $12 for an order of onion rings is uniquely disturbing). But perhaps it is our Chowhound obligation to at least give it a try and make an honest appraisal.

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                              LVI RE: QAW Apr 25, 2014 03:26 AM

                              I will be going in about 40 days when I am down there. I'd be happy meet a few people for a lunch. Lunch only as I would hate to "waste" one of my dinners there. I guess I am one of the few that actually enjoys and appreciates what he does. I do not know if anyone saw the piece that was done on him (I honestly can't remember if it was a TV Food Network piece or another) that chronicled his pre-career and current. He truly seems to be a nice guy, pardon the pun, family man, and all the undue criticism of him is to be expected because he is so brash. I don't recall him trying to open a Joel Robuchon type of restaurant. He's in THE QUAD! And if people want to compare it to other Chow type places, that is their choice. But to bash him for making Mac and cheese burgers and other bar food seems a bit silly. And QAW, I certainly agree that $12 for onion rings is a bit crazy, and I MUCH prefer onion strings to thick cut (LOVE the ones at Smash Burger). However, the pictures I have seen of them will undoubtedly make me order them. Bring on the donkey sauce.

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                                ellenost RE: LVI Apr 25, 2014 03:49 AM

                                I enjoy watching Guy Fieri's TV shows on the Food Network. He seems to be a more capable chef than the food that gets produced at his restaurants. That's a shame.

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                                  uhockey RE: ellenost Apr 25, 2014 06:58 AM

                                  I disagree entirely, but I do think he has done a LOT for the mom n' pop places he features. It just seems incredibly disingenuous to me for him to come into a community (any community) with his asinine menu and steal business from the places he pretends to promote.

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                                  jbsiegel RE: LVI Apr 25, 2014 04:14 AM

                                  I'll be in Vegas in July. I might have to sacrifice my husband for the team!

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                                    uhockey RE: LVI Apr 25, 2014 07:01 AM

                                    If you go on a weekend I'll come out and give it an honest go. So sue me, I like insane desserts - the fried ice cream boulder and cheesecake seem amusing as hell.

                                    I don't know that Fieri is a great person, but I know he isn't a great chef. He is a smart businessman, no more and no less. I think he is stealing thunder from the same mom n' pop spots he has benefitted on DDD, but so-be-it - he just rubs me the wrong way and makes some rather unfortunate comments on occasion that make him seem anti-Semitic and sexist.

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                                      c oliver RE: uhockey Apr 25, 2014 07:51 AM

                                      And don't forget homophobic.

                                      uhockey, I think you've nailed what my problem with him is.

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                                        FattyDumplin RE: c oliver Apr 25, 2014 08:35 AM

                                        wow, i had not idea about that stuff. some of those comments are just painful and sad to read.

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                                          Veggo RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 09:00 AM

                                          I have watched quite a few episodes and I haven't seen evidence to support numerous of the negative characterizations about him on this thread. I have posted my limited criticisms above.

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                                            FattyDumplin RE: Veggo Apr 25, 2014 09:20 AM

                                            yeah, i don't think it comes across in his show. where he's sort of douche-y but in a good natured sort of way. i think what others are referring to, which i wasn't aware of, is the october 2011 allegations from his former producer about his views on homosexuality, race, and sex. while it certainly sounds bad, i think its worth noting the allegations came from the former producer who he had a falling out with. and far as i can tell, there really hasn't been much said about the issue since then, so one can imagine it may have been false or exaggerated allegations. i'm reserving judgement until i find the inclination and time to dig deeper.

                                            as for the view that his food / food views are substandard, my view is that its the other way around... the chowhounders food views are way above standard. not in a bad way, just different. and in fact, his food / views are way more in line with mainstream america.

                                            for example, i have to admit to chuckling when i read QAWs post about eating the "Roman-style Porchetta Pizza, with Sicilian Pistachios, Crucolo cheese and caramelized onions" Probably sounds pretty good to most people on this board, but you put that choice up against "Smashed M&C Burger with Rojo Rings slathered in Donkey Sauce" and run it past 1,000 random people on the streets and the overwhelming choice is the latter. In that sense, he's giving the "the people" what they want and getting filthy (12 lamborghinis) rich at the same time and seems to be having fun. ain't nothing wrong with that.

                                            edit: one last thought... this guy was a nobody and i still remember him watching on the next food network star and thinking, interesting schtick, clearly the most differentiated of the bunch. and here he is, a bunch of years later, hitting it big. isn't that the american dream? how is that any different from the immigrant kid who works his way through college and runs a business or the kid who dreams of playing sports and making it to the NBA / NFL / MLB? it's what makes america a great country - there are so many ways to succeed, if you're willing to bust your ass, which i'm sure guy fieri has done.

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                                              c oliver RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 09:34 AM

                                              I appreciate your comments. Since I haven't watched a cooking show in at least several years, I don't know if they're all as LCD as his. His restaurants, not surprisingly, follow the format. The restaurants he visits may be good but they're not (necessarily) cooking from scratch, they're not (necessarily mom and pop) so, IMO, it's just for a show and now for feeding the masses. And, sure, they deserve to be fed and to be fed what they want. But I sure don't think that kind of person/food needs to be praised on THIS site. And as I said above, Yelpers don't even like it :)

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                                                FattyDumplin RE: c oliver Apr 25, 2014 09:42 AM

                                                haha. totally... i mean, his shows are sometimes entertaining, especially when he hits towns i am familiar with. but, his schtick is a bit much for me and i have no intent of ever stepping foot into his restaurant as the menu seems too over the top and more importantly, way overpriced.

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                                                uhockey RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 05:57 PM

                                                So catering to the lowest common denominator should be the goal of "Chefs."

                                                ...If they want to be rich.

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                                                  c oliver RE: uhockey Apr 25, 2014 06:03 PM

                                                  That's got to be part of my aversion also. Sure, let the masses eat there and I honestly don't have a problem in the world with that. But Chowhounds? Seems just wrong somehow.

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                                              c oliver RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 09:20 AM

                                              http://www.realityblurred.com/reality...

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                                                FattyDumplin RE: c oliver Apr 25, 2014 09:33 AM

                                                i saw a similar article as well, all from october '11. clearly the relationship with that former producer was strained (probably an significant understatement). just feels like your typical disgruntled worker decides to take down his old boss type of story. i was just surprised that the furor died down so quickly and that the story never went anywhere. so either there wasn't much fire behind the smoke or the GF publicity team did an amazing job suppressing the story.

                                                like i said though, haven't dug into this much. and all this said, it's one thing to ding him for these allegations (which is totally fair), it's another to slam him for his shows / food views / schtick... in the grand scheme of things, none of that is too bad and its what people want and willing to pay for.

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                                                  c oliver RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 09:38 AM

                                                  I have some of the same opinions as you. I just don't know why anyone on CH would praise him, his food and his shows. IMO he's cut out of the same bolt of cloth as Rachel Ray who doesn't seem to get nearly/any love here.

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                                                    FattyDumplin RE: c oliver Apr 25, 2014 09:45 AM

                                                    i think both of them take their fair share of criticism on CH :) that being said, no one takes more wrath than Sandra Lee!!! my only comment there is, GF's and RR's food may not appeal to me, but i can see how it appeals to the masses. SL's food definitely has no appeal to me but i also have a difficult time understanding how anyone can find it appealing, despite trying to give her the benefit of the doubt... some of her "recipes" seem downright crazy and disgusting, even if i put my LCD hat on.

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                                                      jbsiegel RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 10:01 AM

                                                      I just can't stand his voice!

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                                                        FattyDumplin RE: jbsiegel Apr 25, 2014 01:32 PM

                                                        I can't stand RR's smoker voice!

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                                                          jbsiegel RE: FattyDumplin Apr 25, 2014 04:41 PM

                                                          ...don't even get me started about Michael Symon's laugh!

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                                            VegasGourmet RE: uhockey Apr 29, 2014 10:19 PM

                                            Mike.....as I was going to add to this forum and you stated it first....Guy Fieri is, not only, not a great chef; he is, by all accounts no longer a chef at all....strictly a personality that is marketed by William Morris, et al to a crowd of mid-Americans. He might have started on Food Network as a chef; but through his lack of culinary advances, has become a brand...nothing more, nothing less....a "poor man's Wolfang Puck.

                                  2. ellenost RE: jbsiegel Apr 25, 2014 07:59 AM

                                    Sorry, didn't realize he was that much of a jerk. Thank you for pointing these things out to me. Now I definitely won't patronize his restaurants.

                                    In my prior post I was referring to a cooking program he used to have on the Food Network that didn't seem too bad. The Triple D show and some supermarket contest show may be what is left. Guess there's more $ in it to be a "celebrity" than a real chef. Glad to see Bobby Flay is back in the kitchen in NYC at his new restaurant Gato which is receiving very good reports.

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                                      c oliver RE: ellenost Apr 25, 2014 08:19 AM

                                      I find myself unable to separate a person or company's "ethics" from the rest of who/what they are. Hence, my current attitude about Chic Fil A. And Guy Fieri. And other people and things.

                                    2. c oliver RE: jbsiegel Apr 25, 2014 04:56 PM

                                      Here's a report on the "cocktails."

                                      http://vegas.eater.com/archives/2014/...

                                      1. uhockey RE: jbsiegel Jul 15, 2014 06:27 AM

                                        So, anyone want to throw themselves on this grenade with me for the sake of the collective chowhound consciousness once the brunch service starts on 8/1/14? If I'm going to eat absurd food, it is going to be breakfast. A group of 4 would probably be enough...

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                                          ellenost RE: uhockey Jul 15, 2014 06:54 AM

                                          Wow! Talk about "taking one for the team"!

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                                            kagemusha49 RE: uhockey Jul 15, 2014 09:28 AM

                                            I christen thee Donkey Hotay! (Assuming you're going to take a tilt at the donkey sauce)

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                                              uhockey RE: kagemusha49 Jul 15, 2014 06:27 PM

                                              I gather it'd be easier to find people for this foray on Yelp. ;)

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