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  1. Oh. My. God.

    Thank you for this!!

    Some choice quotes:

    "If there's one thing I'm learning from this menu, it's that Guy Fieri's brain pretty much has three settings: smother, smear, and drench. I don't even want to think about what that implies about his sex life.

    You're welcome for that mental image."

    "If the words "smeared with Guy's famous donkey sauce" don't insta-dry your lady parts/cause your balls to ascend into your man treehouse, there is something deeply wrong with you."

    1. Highest price item is $17. If you can get a cheapo meal and a brew on the strip for a green chip, that's not too bad.

      1. Amazing.
        JeremyEG
        HomeCookLocavore.com

        1. I think somehow the "person" was never told that Vegas' rep is now fine food not crap like this. And whoever wrote that menu should be fired. For under $10/pp you can go to one of these places and probably even be able to figure out in advance just WTF you're going to be eating:

          http://www.examiner.com/article/twent...

          Or you can go to the Cafe at the Bellagio, spend less, the same or a little more and get some really good food:

          https://www.bellagio.com/files/restau...

          I think this quote from the article describes him and his food:

          "It takes a truly special human being to combine pretension and douchebro-ed-ness into something that, when you take a step back, starts to look like elaborate, brilliant performance art. Guy Fieri is that human, except that nothing he does is intended as satire."

          Shiver :(

          1. I have a special admiration for overachievers, and I hope some day to be one.

            1. I can't stop laughing after reading this review. Reminds me of when the New York Times destroyed his Times Square place last year. Amzing that he gets away with putting out pure crap food and can still draw people in droves.

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              1. re: LongIslandChef

                As I mentioned on another thread, we were in Europe recently and I overheard an American couple who said their first meal out when they got home was going to be Olive Garden. At least you know what you're getting there. At Times Square and Vegas there are still going to be that LCD (lowest common denominator) crowd. And despite how he claims otherwise on that tv show, I'm willing to be that a Sysco-esque type truck pulls up out back regularly :) It certainly does at those DDD places.

              2. This was the funniest thing I've read all week (maybe the whole month). Not a chance it makes it to my top 4 restaurants (actually it's probably dead last).

                1. It 's working class bar food. They arrive in busses by the thousands every day with dreams of hitting a $400 jackpot. Notice how much gaming floor space in Vegas is allocated to low cost slots. They have to eat somewhere. Think of it as McD's without the arches. He is not competing with Joel Robuchon for the 1%ers.

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                  1. re: Veggo

                    Comparing Guy to McD is an insult to McD.

                    1. re: ellenost

                      I haven't tried both. I did thoroughly enjoy one of his featured restos in Ft. Worth. I'm a bit turned off by the traveling hairdresser and the Lamborghini he drove in real life until it was stolen. Not as humble as Pope Francis.

                    2. re: Veggo

                      I'm with you Veggo. More power to him. I don't begrudge people who are fortunate enough to find a way to legally make vast amounts of money. All about supply and demand and clearly there is enough demand for his schtick and food.

                      That being said, not sure there is too much on his menu I want to try and its definitely not McD's priced. But most of it sounds fairly innocuous (ridiculous descriptions aside) and hell, I'd be interested in the Mac&Cheese Burger.

                      1. re: FattyDumplin

                        Mac and Cheese burgers are one of those trendy things that has gotten down to chain level. And for those prices you can get 'real' food with normal names. That place just seems like a joke - a joke on the suckers who eat there. BTW, I've eaten at three (that I know of) places on that show. The first two aren't DDorDs and the third one sucks and has for decades.

                        1. re: c oliver

                          Hey, I totally hear you. I haven't been to any of his restaurants (no interest at those prices, as you said), but have tried a couple of his DDDs in NorCal and they were pretty good, especially The Refuge, which I really enjoy. Yeah, he's clearly preying on the LCD, but lots of people / businesses do, so I don't hold that against him.

                    3. Oh my, I just saw that Yelp - yes, YELP! - only gave the NYC branch 2-1/2 stars. Don't fast food chains do better than that? :)

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                      1. re: c oliver

                        Yet the Yelpers here lined up (80+ people on the list of people trying to get 20 spots) for it.

                        sickening.

                        ....so, anyone wanna meet up for some Donkey Sauce?

                        1. re: uhockey

                          I'll pass but thanks for your oh-so-kind offer :)

                          1. re: uhockey

                            At some point, a few of us really should go over and "take one for the team". I did walk by tonight before having something at a slightly higher level of culinary sophistication (the Roman-style Porchetta Pizza, with Sicilian Pistachios, Crucolo cheese and caramelized onions at Lavo), and there was a fairly long line of people waiting to get in. Perhaps that should not come as a surprise. Is there anything on the menu that is a magnet? Not really (OK, I'll admit that the onion rings look good in photos; while at the same time $12 for an order of onion rings is uniquely disturbing). But perhaps it is our Chowhound obligation to at least give it a try and make an honest appraisal.

                            1. re: QAW

                              I will be going in about 40 days when I am down there. I'd be happy meet a few people for a lunch. Lunch only as I would hate to "waste" one of my dinners there. I guess I am one of the few that actually enjoys and appreciates what he does. I do not know if anyone saw the piece that was done on him (I honestly can't remember if it was a TV Food Network piece or another) that chronicled his pre-career and current. He truly seems to be a nice guy, pardon the pun, family man, and all the undue criticism of him is to be expected because he is so brash. I don't recall him trying to open a Joel Robuchon type of restaurant. He's in THE QUAD! And if people want to compare it to other Chow type places, that is their choice. But to bash him for making Mac and cheese burgers and other bar food seems a bit silly. And QAW, I certainly agree that $12 for onion rings is a bit crazy, and I MUCH prefer onion strings to thick cut (LOVE the ones at Smash Burger). However, the pictures I have seen of them will undoubtedly make me order them. Bring on the donkey sauce.

                              1. re: LVI

                                I enjoy watching Guy Fieri's TV shows on the Food Network. He seems to be a more capable chef than the food that gets produced at his restaurants. That's a shame.

                                1. re: ellenost

                                  I disagree entirely, but I do think he has done a LOT for the mom n' pop places he features. It just seems incredibly disingenuous to me for him to come into a community (any community) with his asinine menu and steal business from the places he pretends to promote.

                                2. re: LVI

                                  I'll be in Vegas in July. I might have to sacrifice my husband for the team!

                                  1. re: LVI

                                    If you go on a weekend I'll come out and give it an honest go. So sue me, I like insane desserts - the fried ice cream boulder and cheesecake seem amusing as hell.

                                    I don't know that Fieri is a great person, but I know he isn't a great chef. He is a smart businessman, no more and no less. I think he is stealing thunder from the same mom n' pop spots he has benefitted on DDD, but so-be-it - he just rubs me the wrong way and makes some rather unfortunate comments on occasion that make him seem anti-Semitic and sexist.

                                    1. re: uhockey

                                      And don't forget homophobic.

                                      uhockey, I think you've nailed what my problem with him is.

                                      1. re: c oliver

                                        wow, i had not idea about that stuff. some of those comments are just painful and sad to read.

                                        1. re: FattyDumplin

                                          I have watched quite a few episodes and I haven't seen evidence to support numerous of the negative characterizations about him on this thread. I have posted my limited criticisms above.

                                          1. re: Veggo

                                            yeah, i don't think it comes across in his show. where he's sort of douche-y but in a good natured sort of way. i think what others are referring to, which i wasn't aware of, is the october 2011 allegations from his former producer about his views on homosexuality, race, and sex. while it certainly sounds bad, i think its worth noting the allegations came from the former producer who he had a falling out with. and far as i can tell, there really hasn't been much said about the issue since then, so one can imagine it may have been false or exaggerated allegations. i'm reserving judgement until i find the inclination and time to dig deeper.

                                            as for the view that his food / food views are substandard, my view is that its the other way around... the chowhounders food views are way above standard. not in a bad way, just different. and in fact, his food / views are way more in line with mainstream america.

                                            for example, i have to admit to chuckling when i read QAWs post about eating the "Roman-style Porchetta Pizza, with Sicilian Pistachios, Crucolo cheese and caramelized onions" Probably sounds pretty good to most people on this board, but you put that choice up against "Smashed M&C Burger with Rojo Rings slathered in Donkey Sauce" and run it past 1,000 random people on the streets and the overwhelming choice is the latter. In that sense, he's giving the "the people" what they want and getting filthy (12 lamborghinis) rich at the same time and seems to be having fun. ain't nothing wrong with that.

                                            edit: one last thought... this guy was a nobody and i still remember him watching on the next food network star and thinking, interesting schtick, clearly the most differentiated of the bunch. and here he is, a bunch of years later, hitting it big. isn't that the american dream? how is that any different from the immigrant kid who works his way through college and runs a business or the kid who dreams of playing sports and making it to the NBA / NFL / MLB? it's what makes america a great country - there are so many ways to succeed, if you're willing to bust your ass, which i'm sure guy fieri has done.

                                            1. re: FattyDumplin

                                              I appreciate your comments. Since I haven't watched a cooking show in at least several years, I don't know if they're all as LCD as his. His restaurants, not surprisingly, follow the format. The restaurants he visits may be good but they're not (necessarily) cooking from scratch, they're not (necessarily mom and pop) so, IMO, it's just for a show and now for feeding the masses. And, sure, they deserve to be fed and to be fed what they want. But I sure don't think that kind of person/food needs to be praised on THIS site. And as I said above, Yelpers don't even like it :)

                                              1. re: c oliver

                                                haha. totally... i mean, his shows are sometimes entertaining, especially when he hits towns i am familiar with. but, his schtick is a bit much for me and i have no intent of ever stepping foot into his restaurant as the menu seems too over the top and more importantly, way overpriced.

                                              2. re: FattyDumplin

                                                So catering to the lowest common denominator should be the goal of "Chefs."

                                                ...If they want to be rich.

                                                1. re: uhockey

                                                  That's got to be part of my aversion also. Sure, let the masses eat there and I honestly don't have a problem in the world with that. But Chowhounds? Seems just wrong somehow.

                                            2. re: FattyDumplin

                                              http://www.realityblurred.com/reality...

                                              1. re: c oliver

                                                i saw a similar article as well, all from october '11. clearly the relationship with that former producer was strained (probably an significant understatement). just feels like your typical disgruntled worker decides to take down his old boss type of story. i was just surprised that the furor died down so quickly and that the story never went anywhere. so either there wasn't much fire behind the smoke or the GF publicity team did an amazing job suppressing the story.

                                                like i said though, haven't dug into this much. and all this said, it's one thing to ding him for these allegations (which is totally fair), it's another to slam him for his shows / food views / schtick... in the grand scheme of things, none of that is too bad and its what people want and willing to pay for.

                                                1. re: FattyDumplin

                                                  I have some of the same opinions as you. I just don't know why anyone on CH would praise him, his food and his shows. IMO he's cut out of the same bolt of cloth as Rachel Ray who doesn't seem to get nearly/any love here.

                                                  1. re: c oliver

                                                    i think both of them take their fair share of criticism on CH :) that being said, no one takes more wrath than Sandra Lee!!! my only comment there is, GF's and RR's food may not appeal to me, but i can see how it appeals to the masses. SL's food definitely has no appeal to me but i also have a difficult time understanding how anyone can find it appealing, despite trying to give her the benefit of the doubt... some of her "recipes" seem downright crazy and disgusting, even if i put my LCD hat on.

                                                    1. re: FattyDumplin

                                                      I just can't stand his voice!

                                                      1. re: jbsiegel

                                                        I can't stand RR's smoker voice!

                                                        1. re: FattyDumplin

                                                          ...don't even get me started about Michael Symon's laugh!

                                          2. re: uhockey

                                            Mike.....as I was going to add to this forum and you stated it first....Guy Fieri is, not only, not a great chef; he is, by all accounts no longer a chef at all....strictly a personality that is marketed by William Morris, et al to a crowd of mid-Americans. He might have started on Food Network as a chef; but through his lack of culinary advances, has become a brand...nothing more, nothing less....a "poor man's Wolfang Puck.

                                        2. re: QAW

                                          Come on QAW - you suggested it - I'm down for it this weekend if you are. :)

                                          1. re: uhockey

                                            It is tempting, especially since a friend with an experienced palate brought back a concise but meaningful review - "better than it needed to be" - which actually speaks volumes through the brevity. But unfortunately at this time of the year, weekend mornings find me "on the clock" vocationally.

                                            1. re: QAW

                                              Would noon work better? ;)

                                              1. re: uhockey

                                                This will probably divulge a little "vocational" info, but Sunday does not really open up until around 1:30ish, since there are four MLB games that do not go to first pitch until the 1 - 1:10 cycle. It might not have been the best day for Fieri anyway - I have to meet an acquaintance from the east coast for an evening of old stories (mostly lies, but they are holding up well over time) with Giants/Bills in the background that evening, and I get the feeling that if one does Guy's menu for brunch, calories might not be needed again until Monday.

                                                1. re: QAW

                                                  Understood - but the plan was this Saturday. No matter. Trying to recruit some people, but if I fail its not like I'm missing out on Robuchon here. ;)

                                            2. re: uhockey

                                              I'd love to join you both if you can hold off until Oct 2-6 when I'm back. Not with big group so I can make a solid commitment (that's for you u).

                                              1. re: LVI

                                                I will be picking up my usual Lotus of Siam basket on the 3rd. But there is an outside chance that your first night here could work.

                                                1. re: LVI

                                                  That is a long way off. :) We'll see. I'd definitely like to get together for a bite somewhere, though.

                                                  1. re: LVI

                                                    I'll also be in town on October 2nd. I arrive on Sept 24th and leave Oct 3rd. Maybe I can join you all as well :)

                                                    1. re: LongIslandChef

                                                      Ahh LIC would be great. Well maybe DF will be in town and it could be a party. QAW, Thurs could be great. Maybe even pick your brain, if you'd allow!?

                                                      1. re: LVI

                                                        As long as you understand the relative odds of finding something useful are in the "needle/haystack" range on some (others might say "most") days.

                                                        By October 2nd, Bazaar Meat (Jose Andres) at the SLS will have been open long enough to work out the early kinks. Just thinking out loud...

                                                        1. re: QAW

                                                          My OCD kicked in and for good measure I booked a table 7:30pm, 6 people (I will be three, one of whom you met) leaving you and two others...just in case, of course.

                                                          If it doesn't work out no biggie. If it does, great. Look forward to it.

                                                          1. re: LVI

                                                            Game on...

                                                            (of course, this does prevent me from stopping over there throughout September, which may actually prove to be a bit difficult).

                                                            1. re: QAW

                                                              I cannot WAIT to hear your report!!!

                                                            2. re: LVI

                                                              LIC you game?

                                                              1. re: LVI

                                                                I think I could handle that. Would actually be a perfect night for it. I'll have to cancel my res for Bazaar meat late Friday the 26th, Which will take all of two seconds. Maybe(since its my last night in town) I'll go to an early show before our dinner. Or just skip a show. Wasn't sure what to see that night anyway.

                                                                1. re: LongIslandChef

                                                                  Ahem.

                                                                  So now we know the truth. You were going to sneak into Bazaar Meat the previous Friday without us.

                                                                  Thank you for graciously canceling your first reservation, and at the same time volunteering to pay for the first round of drinks, while we peruse the menu, as your penance. It will be much appreciated.

                                                                  The sixth seat is yours Michael, and you can take it knowing that at least the first cocktail is generously being paid for by a fellow Chowhound (I hope that Andres brings a decent sherry list, something far too difficult to find on the Strip these days).

                                                                  1. re: QAW

                                                                    No problem on the first round ;-)
                                                                    The real reason I had the reservation? It was one of the only interesting places taking a reservation at 11:15pm. Seeing Bill Cosby at 8 and wanted a good late dinner. Might end up at Yusho instead that night.

                                                                    Also, you know me by now. When I'm dining alone, I usually cancel my reservation the night of and go with what I'm in the mood for.

                                                                    1. re: QAW

                                                                      What day/time is this?

                                              2. Sorry, didn't realize he was that much of a jerk. Thank you for pointing these things out to me. Now I definitely won't patronize his restaurants.

                                                In my prior post I was referring to a cooking program he used to have on the Food Network that didn't seem too bad. The Triple D show and some supermarket contest show may be what is left. Guess there's more $ in it to be a "celebrity" than a real chef. Glad to see Bobby Flay is back in the kitchen in NYC at his new restaurant Gato which is receiving very good reports.

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                                                1. re: ellenost

                                                  I find myself unable to separate a person or company's "ethics" from the rest of who/what they are. Hence, my current attitude about Chic Fil A. And Guy Fieri. And other people and things.

                                                2. Here's a report on the "cocktails."

                                                  http://vegas.eater.com/archives/2014/...

                                                  1. So, anyone want to throw themselves on this grenade with me for the sake of the collective chowhound consciousness once the brunch service starts on 8/1/14? If I'm going to eat absurd food, it is going to be breakfast. A group of 4 would probably be enough...

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                                                    1. re: uhockey

                                                      Wow! Talk about "taking one for the team"!

                                                      1. re: uhockey

                                                        I christen thee Donkey Hotay! (Assuming you're going to take a tilt at the donkey sauce)

                                                        1. re: kagemusha49

                                                          I gather it'd be easier to find people for this foray on Yelp. ;)