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Game changer? Newport Seafood -> Beverly HIlls

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ns1 Apr 23, 2014 01:47 PM

yowza!

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    ilysla RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 01:54 PM

    WHOA.

    Hope the food doesn't get watered down. My impression is that there are many more wealthy Chinese immigrants on the westside now, so perhaps there's a market for this.

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      Dommy RE: ilysla Apr 23, 2014 08:37 PM

      That and the tourists on Rodeo Drive... this is NEEDED.

      --Dommy!

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        jessejames RE: Dommy Apr 23, 2014 08:54 PM

        A nice boost to restaurant row w matsuhisa fogo and lawrys. Decisions...

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        Ciao Bob RE: ilysla Apr 24, 2014 10:47 AM

        More REAL Chinese food on the Westside is GREAT.
        Meizho Dongpo - which seems to get little love here at CH-LA has a few dumbed down dishes but is the real deal,IMHO. It is a great trend.

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        jessejames RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 01:56 PM

        Bet the price of lobster is going up !

        1. raytamsgv RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 02:24 PM

          I hope they succeed there.

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            TailbackU RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 02:43 PM

            wow this is great...i think. But will be really surprised if the prices aren't inflated in this new location.

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              ns1 RE: TailbackU Apr 23, 2014 02:47 PM

              if it's more than sgv but less than the rest of BH, I think that would be reasonable.

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                TailbackU RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 04:09 PM

                what would you consider "less than the rest of BH" given that there really is no fair comparison to the food that they put out?

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                  ns1 RE: TailbackU Apr 23, 2014 04:12 PM

                  less than hakkasan/chi lin/whatever.

                  IOW for an average meal, $20-30pp would be ideal. $40pp would be stretching it, and $50pp would be WTF I'll just drive to the SGV.

                  and if you guys claim to drop more than 30pp on average at the SGV Newport Seafood outpost, then jesus christ I need to eat with you fucking whales.

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                    chrishei RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 09:25 PM

                    I've spent ~$50/person last few visits (all special occasions).

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                      ns1 RE: chrishei Apr 23, 2014 09:56 PM

                      see previous note regarding whales.

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                        TheOffalo RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 10:01 PM

                        Don't hate the playa...

                        (and I don't mean beach)

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                          kevin RE: TheOffalo Apr 24, 2014 08:28 AM

                          I thought Playa closed ??????

                          Isn't it Petty Cash now ???????

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                            Servorg RE: kevin Apr 24, 2014 08:30 AM

                            Didn't Bill & Hinoki take it over? Or was that the Stinking Bird Finger?

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                              kevin RE: Servorg Apr 24, 2014 08:34 AM

                              Hmm. I don't know. I sure hope so.

                              But research on both topics and then get back to us on the double.

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                          chrishei RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 10:02 PM

                          My only correlation w/ whales are looking like a beached one and working for some.

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                  Servorg RE: TailbackU Apr 23, 2014 02:58 PM

                  How dare they pass along the higher cost of doing business...and make a profit. Why the nerve of some people!

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                    TailbackU RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2014 04:10 PM

                    they charge ~$18/lb for their special lobster in SGV. Would you still be ok if they charged $35/lb in BH because of the higher rents?

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                      Servorg RE: TailbackU Apr 23, 2014 04:25 PM

                      Time is money. And the prices reflect the cost of doing business. I don't expect them to sell food at a loss.

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                        Mr Taster RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2014 04:48 PM

                        But would you still be OK paying those prices knowing that you could get the same dish for half the price?

                        I wouldn't. And the after dinner massage in BH would be a helluva lot more than $15.

                        Mr Taster

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                          ns1 RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 04:52 PM

                          Time or money; both are valuable, it's up to the diner to decide which one they have more of ^_^

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                            Servorg RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 04:54 PM

                            It strongly depends on which one you have more of, and which less. Not entirely, but it can be the deciding factor, all other factors being equal.

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                              ns1 RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2014 04:55 PM

                              Exactly.

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                                Servorg RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 04:58 PM

                                It just causes my hackles to go up when folks who don't have a clue, not even an inkling of a clue, want to criticize pricing based on what they have in their bank account. To hell with anyone making a profit on their risk and hard work.

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                                  Mr Taster RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2014 05:25 PM

                                  You still haven't said, "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because the restaurateur has a right to earn a profit."

                                  Mr Taster

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                                    ns1 RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 05:29 PM

                                    I would not personally pay double. My boss who makes 3x as much as me? He'd undoubtedly pay it to avoid the 2-3 hour round-trip drive + wait @ SGV Newport Seafood.

                                    I mean really now, higher prices = less lines = less riff raff = less wait.

                                    win/win/win for people with money.

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                                      Servorg RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 05:29 PM

                                      I replied in a way that makes sense to me. Time vs Money. It all depends on which is more important to me at the moment I'm hungry for what the restaurant has to offer.

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                                        ipsedixit RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 05:32 PM

                                        "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because the restaurateur has a right to earn a profit."

                                        I do it at airports and ballparks quite often.

                                        Location, location, location.

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                                          Mr Taster RE: ipsedixit Apr 23, 2014 05:37 PM

                                          With re: to ballparks and airports, don't you mean to say, "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because I'm hungry and there are no other viable options."?

                                          Mr Taster

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                                            ipsedixit RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 05:40 PM

                                            Exactly.

                                            If you're stuck west of La Cienega, and want Newport (or the equivalent), then "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because I'm hungry and there are no other viable options."

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                                              jessejames RE: ipsedixit Apr 23, 2014 07:25 PM

                                              For the price of urasawa fly to japan

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                                                ipsedixit RE: jessejames Apr 24, 2014 08:11 AM

                                                An Urasawa-type kaiseki meal would actually be more expensive in Tokyo.

                                                And then factor in the approx. 20k for a roundtrip flight ...

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                                                  jessejames RE: ipsedixit Apr 24, 2014 08:17 AM

                                                  We flew 1200 per person rt coach but not shabby on Asian airlines. Hard to justify the splurge for urasawa for me given what u can do with the money.

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                                          Ciao Bob RE: Mr Taster Apr 24, 2014 10:50 AM

                                          Can I say
                                          ""yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because [it is closer]?"

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                                            Mr Taster RE: Ciao Bob Apr 24, 2014 11:14 AM

                                            You can say whatever you like, Bob :) Thanks for the Meizho Dongpo rec. I hadn't heard of it before. Dongpo pork in Culver City is big news-- as big as Newport in BH. Not sure why that info hasn't been glommed on to.

                                            Mr Taster

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                                              Ciao Bob RE: Mr Taster Apr 24, 2014 11:52 AM

                                              Hope you like it. Many but not all the dishes are as authentic as you can find in in the homeland (the Big C) , as well as the hinterland (SGV).

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                                                revets2 RE: Mr Taster Apr 24, 2014 02:38 PM

                                                I think Meizho Dongpo is in Century City, not Culver City lest you make your plans to visit.

                                                Not enough high-end branding in Culver City for Chinese shoppers flush with cash.

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                                                  Ciao Bob RE: revets2 Apr 24, 2014 03:03 PM

                                                  Maybe not YET!

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                                    kevin RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 06:02 PM

                                    Yes. Happy endings in the bountiful hills of Beverly can get beyond pricey.

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                                      Mr Taster RE: kevin Apr 23, 2014 06:35 PM

                                      Wow. Your Chinese foot massages sound a lot different than mine.

                                      Mr Taster

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                                      Mattapoisett in LA RE: Mr Taster Apr 23, 2014 07:59 PM

                                      Should Newport Seafood not open a place in BH? If they do, the rent is double, Taxes are double, the work force costs double, etc, which add to the price of said dish. So unless the owners want to eat that cost of doing business in BH, there is no way you can have the Special Lobster for $18

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                                        Dirtywextraolives RE: Mattapoisett in LA Apr 23, 2014 08:06 PM

                                        How are taxes double? Beverly Hills has it's own city tax?

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                                          Mattapoisett in LA RE: Dirtywextraolives Apr 23, 2014 08:13 PM

                                          I'm presuming the Licensing and Business taxes in BH are more than in the SGV Plus if you are paying higher wages your payroll taxes are higher. Also, higher property taxes are rolled into your lease.

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                                            Dirtywextraolives RE: Mattapoisett in LA Apr 24, 2014 09:51 AM

                                            LA L&B taxes are extreme and oppressive.... Hard to imagine BH taxes being worse, but not impossible.....

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                                        khh1138 RE: Mr Taster May 1, 2014 08:27 PM

                                        We always do the $15 massage _before_ dinner so we aren't uncomfotably full while getting poked and prodded.

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                                          kevin RE: khh1138 May 1, 2014 11:10 PM

                                          Happy ending for $15?????

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                                            Servorg RE: kevin May 7, 2014 01:44 PM

                                            kev - smart phone lost some I.Q, points or you out of town or did your ISP yank your connection? (last CH posts as of 5/01/14)

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                                              ns1 RE: Servorg May 7, 2014 04:53 PM

                                              #BanHammer
                                              #FreeKevin

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                                                Servorg RE: ns1 May 7, 2014 05:03 PM

                                                #GulagKevin ?

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                                                  Dirtywextraolives RE: ns1 May 7, 2014 06:07 PM

                                                  Who's Hammer?

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                                                    JAB RE: Dirtywextraolives May 7, 2014 06:37 PM

                                                    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banhammer

                                                    #freekevin

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                                      SWISSAIRE RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2014 05:29 PM

                                      A 30-45 % increase in price comes with the Zip code.

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                                    Clyde RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 03:16 PM

                                    I'm so excited about this... crab and lobster for LUNCH!!! yeah! SGV was a bit of a drive for me but this is totally do-able during work.

                                    1. wienermobile RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 03:22 PM

                                      Does anyone know how long it will take them to open? This year?

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                                        TonyC RE: wienermobile Apr 23, 2014 03:59 PM

                                        "I don't know, I don't know, stop asking me" was the response.

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                                        Thor123 RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 03:47 PM

                                        Great news.

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                                          kevin RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 04:03 PM

                                          Wow.

                                          And Dirty you now may hit it up and its Wstside friendly.

                                          Just wow.

                                          I never thought I'd see the proverbial day.

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                                            Dirtywextraolives RE: kevin Apr 23, 2014 07:40 PM

                                            We going for opening night????

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                                            kevin RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 04:11 PM

                                            It would be ironic or fill in the word if they set up shoppe right beside crustacean.

                                            1. J.L. RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 05:31 PM

                                              I think this is an auspicious move, assuming the quality of the food doesn't get diluted.

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                                                ipsedixit RE: J.L. Apr 23, 2014 05:34 PM

                                                I'm more worried about the quality of the clientele.

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                                                  kevin RE: ipsedixit Apr 23, 2014 06:03 PM

                                                  Just some different eye candy.

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                                                    TheOffalo RE: ipsedixit Apr 23, 2014 06:03 PM

                                                    Let's install kevin as doorman.

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                                                      kevin RE: TheOffalo Apr 23, 2014 06:04 PM

                                                      I'm down.

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                                                        Servorg RE: kevin Apr 23, 2014 06:15 PM

                                                        "I'm down."

                                                        That would make you a sill man.

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                                                        jessejames RE: TheOffalo Apr 24, 2014 09:33 AM

                                                        doorman to the lobster tank would be better!

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                                                        Ernie RE: ipsedixit Apr 24, 2014 09:01 AM

                                                        Why are you worried? I'm sure there will be less spitting and public nose picking compared to the clientele at the SGV location

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                                                          raytamsgv RE: Ernie Apr 24, 2014 10:31 AM

                                                          But there will be more people trying to bring their tiny dogs into the eating area.

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                                                            jessejames RE: raytamsgv Apr 24, 2014 10:36 AM

                                                            on the plus side, lots of hot chicks have tiny dogs.

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                                                              Servorg RE: jessejames Apr 24, 2014 10:38 AM

                                                              lots of guys with expensive cars do too...

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                                                                jessejames RE: Servorg Apr 24, 2014 10:41 AM

                                                                well, better than ferrets i suppose and they don't eat much or take up much space...i like our big old dogs and they've come with me to many restaurants...fond memories of buster being served on a silver platter in carmel...i don't think he would turn his nose up at horse thief either.

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                                                                  Servorg RE: jessejames Apr 24, 2014 10:53 AM

                                                                  I was thinking more along the lines of guys with expensive and over powered cars and their little "wieners" (big cars as an overcompensation mechanism).

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                                                                    jessejames RE: Servorg Apr 24, 2014 10:56 AM

                                                                    you're right...i guess they are easier on the corinthian leather than large terriers

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                                                                TailbackU RE: jessejames Apr 24, 2014 10:43 AM

                                                                lol I like your thinking

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                                                                  kevin RE: jessejames Apr 24, 2014 11:13 AM

                                                                  plus one here.

                                                                  hence door man duties if you will.

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                                                                  Ernie RE: raytamsgv Apr 24, 2014 10:40 AM

                                                                  Under California law, only service dogs are allowed to enter restaurants

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                                                                    jessejames RE: Ernie Apr 24, 2014 10:42 AM

                                                                    patios---i guess not an issue at newport tan cang...was confusing this with the bit about the patio at GCM

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                                                            revets2 RE: ns1 Apr 23, 2014 10:47 PM

                                                            Wonder if this a move by the City of BH similar to the sea changes occuring at the Americana and South Coast Plaza with the introduction of Din Tai Fung and soon to be arriving reputable Chinese restaurants. It may not be that there so many more westside Chinese, but that BH is trying to attract the Chinese to live and/or shop in BH.

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                                                              J.L. RE: revets2 Apr 23, 2014 11:05 PM

                                                              It may be in anticipation to the new wave, ...er make that tsunami of Chinese tourists projected to visit BH in the next few years.

                                                              Same reason why Westfield brought in Meizhou Dongpo to Century City mall...

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                                                                revets2 RE: J.L. Apr 24, 2014 12:10 AM

                                                                Exactamundo. Good example. Had forgotten about that one.

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                                                                  Ciao Bob RE: J.L. Apr 24, 2014 10:51 AM

                                                                  'zactly

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                                                                    A5 KOBE RE: Ciao Bob Apr 24, 2014 11:57 AM

                                                                    Beverly Hills next?
                                                                    http://www.asiamchild.com/

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                                                                Lau RE: ns1 Apr 24, 2014 08:29 AM

                                                                wow

                                                                1. wienermobile RE: ns1 Apr 24, 2014 05:14 PM

                                                                  Just In from LA Eater:
                                                                  the real estate firm responsible for leasing out short lived Greek restaurant Xandros on La Cienega's restaurant row, confirms that Newport Seafood is the venue's next tenant

                                                                   
                                                                  1. Chandavkl RE: ns1 Apr 30, 2014 07:27 PM

                                                                    My next generation Chowhound, a big Newport Seafood fan, is surprisingly negative about this development. She's afraid they'll double the price of lobster and dumb down the food. And before you dismiss the thought, can you say "Mon Kee Seafood"?

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                                                                      ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Apr 30, 2014 07:29 PM

                                                                      If they don't "dumb down the food" they won't have enough (any?) customers.

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                                                                        polldeldiablo RE: ipsedixit May 2, 2014 07:38 PM

                                                                        I think they will be authentic upon opening but as soon as the traffic dies down, they'll sell out for their own livelihood which would be understandable. This restaurant opening in this location reminds me of a horrible choice of eating in 'noodles' in the Bellagio casino after seeing the 'O' where the restaurant was stunningly beautiful with stunning prices and authentic dishes with american tastes in mind(like beef chow fun with kikkoman packets on the side)

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                                                                          Chandavkl RE: polldeldiablo May 2, 2014 08:05 PM

                                                                          Reminds me of the won ton soup I had in El Paso 50 years ago. Came with a packet of saltine crackers.

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                                                                            ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl May 2, 2014 08:07 PM

                                                                            No BBQ sauce?

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                                                                            Chandavkl RE: polldeldiablo May 7, 2014 01:53 PM

                                                                            I just thought of a horrible analog--Sea Harbour's ill fated location at Caesar's Palace. Terrible food at high prices.

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                                                                          Ciao Bob RE: Chandavkl May 1, 2014 09:26 AM

                                                                          Blast from the past - Mon Kee - did they once move to a tonier zip code and dumb things down? Like a mall, maybe the Century City mall?
                                                                          This is tickling neurons that have not been touched in decades.

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                                                                            Chandavkl RE: Ciao Bob May 1, 2014 11:30 AM

                                                                            Yes and yes. They were on restaurant row on La Cienega probably in the mid-1980s. I think their spot became Woo Lae Oak and then Genwa.

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                                                                              Ciao Bob RE: Chandavkl May 1, 2014 12:44 PM

                                                                              Thanks Dave: mid-eighties is nothing but a temperature reading for most reading this!

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                                                                                J.L. RE: Ciao Bob May 1, 2014 05:59 PM

                                                                                Ah, I am listening to Band Aid (ca.1984-85) as I type!

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                                                                                  kevin RE: J.L. May 1, 2014 11:12 PM

                                                                                  What is that ?????????

                                                                                  Of course referencing my inner mr bacon bits.

                                                                                  Thanks.

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