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  1. WHOA.

    Hope the food doesn't get watered down. My impression is that there are many more wealthy Chinese immigrants on the westside now, so perhaps there's a market for this.

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    1. re: ilysla

      That and the tourists on Rodeo Drive... this is NEEDED.

      --Dommy!

      1. re: Dommy

        A nice boost to restaurant row w matsuhisa fogo and lawrys. Decisions...

      2. re: ilysla

        More REAL Chinese food on the Westside is GREAT.
        Meizho Dongpo - which seems to get little love here at CH-LA has a few dumbed down dishes but is the real deal,IMHO. It is a great trend.

      3. Bet the price of lobster is going up !

        1. I hope they succeed there.

          1. wow this is great...i think. But will be really surprised if the prices aren't inflated in this new location.

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            1. re: TailbackU

              if it's more than sgv but less than the rest of BH, I think that would be reasonable.

              1. re: ns1

                what would you consider "less than the rest of BH" given that there really is no fair comparison to the food that they put out?

                1. re: TailbackU

                  less than hakkasan/chi lin/whatever.

                  IOW for an average meal, $20-30pp would be ideal. $40pp would be stretching it, and $50pp would be WTF I'll just drive to the SGV.

                  and if you guys claim to drop more than 30pp on average at the SGV Newport Seafood outpost, then jesus christ I need to eat with you fucking whales.

                  1. re: ns1

                    I've spent ~$50/person last few visits (all special occasions).

                    1. re: chrishei

                      see previous note regarding whales.

                      1. re: ns1

                        Don't hate the playa...

                        (and I don't mean beach)

                        1. re: TheOffalo

                          I thought Playa closed ??????

                          Isn't it Petty Cash now ???????

                          1. re: kevin

                            Didn't Bill & Hinoki take it over? Or was that the Stinking Bird Finger?

                            1. re: Servorg

                              Hmm. I don't know. I sure hope so.

                              But research on both topics and then get back to us on the double.

                        2. re: ns1

                          My only correlation w/ whales are looking like a beached one and working for some.

                2. re: TailbackU

                  How dare they pass along the higher cost of doing business...and make a profit. Why the nerve of some people!

                  1. re: Servorg

                    they charge ~$18/lb for their special lobster in SGV. Would you still be ok if they charged $35/lb in BH because of the higher rents?

                    1. re: TailbackU

                      Time is money. And the prices reflect the cost of doing business. I don't expect them to sell food at a loss.

                      1. re: Servorg

                        But would you still be OK paying those prices knowing that you could get the same dish for half the price?

                        I wouldn't. And the after dinner massage in BH would be a helluva lot more than $15.

                        Mr Taster

                        1. re: Mr Taster

                          Time or money; both are valuable, it's up to the diner to decide which one they have more of ^_^

                          1. re: ns1

                            It strongly depends on which one you have more of, and which less. Not entirely, but it can be the deciding factor, all other factors being equal.

                              1. re: ns1

                                It just causes my hackles to go up when folks who don't have a clue, not even an inkling of a clue, want to criticize pricing based on what they have in their bank account. To hell with anyone making a profit on their risk and hard work.

                                1. re: Servorg

                                  You still haven't said, "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because the restaurateur has a right to earn a profit."

                                  Mr Taster

                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                    I would not personally pay double. My boss who makes 3x as much as me? He'd undoubtedly pay it to avoid the 2-3 hour round-trip drive + wait @ SGV Newport Seafood.

                                    I mean really now, higher prices = less lines = less riff raff = less wait.

                                    win/win/win for people with money.

                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                      I replied in a way that makes sense to me. Time vs Money. It all depends on which is more important to me at the moment I'm hungry for what the restaurant has to offer.

                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                        "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because the restaurateur has a right to earn a profit."

                                        I do it at airports and ballparks quite often.

                                        Location, location, location.

                                        1. re: ipsedixit

                                          With re: to ballparks and airports, don't you mean to say, "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because I'm hungry and there are no other viable options."?

                                          Mr Taster

                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                            Exactly.

                                            If you're stuck west of La Cienega, and want Newport (or the equivalent), then "yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because I'm hungry and there are no other viable options."

                                            1. re: ipsedixit

                                              For the price of urasawa fly to japan

                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                An Urasawa-type kaiseki meal would actually be more expensive in Tokyo.

                                                And then factor in the approx. 20k for a roundtrip flight ...

                                                1. re: ipsedixit

                                                  We flew 1200 per person rt coach but not shabby on Asian airlines. Hard to justify the splurge for urasawa for me given what u can do with the money.

                                        2. re: Mr Taster

                                          Can I say
                                          ""yes, Mr Taster, I would gladly pay double for the same dish because [it is closer]?"

                                          1. re: Ciao Bob

                                            You can say whatever you like, Bob :) Thanks for the Meizho Dongpo rec. I hadn't heard of it before. Dongpo pork in Culver City is big news-- as big as Newport in BH. Not sure why that info hasn't been glommed on to.

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                              Hope you like it. Many but not all the dishes are as authentic as you can find in in the homeland (the Big C) , as well as the hinterland (SGV).

                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                I think Meizho Dongpo is in Century City, not Culver City lest you make your plans to visit.

                                                Not enough high-end branding in Culver City for Chinese shoppers flush with cash.

                                  2. re: Mr Taster

                                    Yes. Happy endings in the bountiful hills of Beverly can get beyond pricey.

                                    1. re: kevin

                                      Wow. Your Chinese foot massages sound a lot different than mine.

                                      Mr Taster

                                    2. re: Mr Taster

                                      Should Newport Seafood not open a place in BH? If they do, the rent is double, Taxes are double, the work force costs double, etc, which add to the price of said dish. So unless the owners want to eat that cost of doing business in BH, there is no way you can have the Special Lobster for $18

                                      1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                        How are taxes double? Beverly Hills has it's own city tax?

                                        1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                          I'm presuming the Licensing and Business taxes in BH are more than in the SGV Plus if you are paying higher wages your payroll taxes are higher. Also, higher property taxes are rolled into your lease.

                                          1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                            LA L&B taxes are extreme and oppressive.... Hard to imagine BH taxes being worse, but not impossible.....

                                      2. re: Mr Taster

                                        We always do the $15 massage _before_ dinner so we aren't uncomfotably full while getting poked and prodded.

                                          1. re: kevin

                                            kev - smart phone lost some I.Q, points or you out of town or did your ISP yank your connection? (last CH posts as of 5/01/14)

                                    3. re: Servorg

                                      A 30-45 % increase in price comes with the Zip code.

                                  3. I'm so excited about this... crab and lobster for LUNCH!!! yeah! SGV was a bit of a drive for me but this is totally do-able during work.

                                    1. Does anyone know how long it will take them to open? This year?

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                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                        "I don't know, I don't know, stop asking me" was the response.

                                        1. Wow.

                                          And Dirty you now may hit it up and its Wstside friendly.

                                          Just wow.

                                          I never thought I'd see the proverbial day.

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                                          1. It would be ironic or fill in the word if they set up shoppe right beside crustacean.

                                            1. I think this is an auspicious move, assuming the quality of the food doesn't get diluted.

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                                              1. re: J.L.

                                                I'm more worried about the quality of the clientele.

                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                        "I'm down."

                                                        That would make you a sill man.

                                                      2. re: TheOffalo

                                                        doorman to the lobster tank would be better!

                                                      3. re: ipsedixit

                                                        Why are you worried? I'm sure there will be less spitting and public nose picking compared to the clientele at the SGV location

                                                        1. re: Ernie

                                                          But there will be more people trying to bring their tiny dogs into the eating area.

                                                          1. re: raytamsgv

                                                            on the plus side, lots of hot chicks have tiny dogs.

                                                            1. re: jessejames

                                                              lots of guys with expensive cars do too...

                                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                                well, better than ferrets i suppose and they don't eat much or take up much space...i like our big old dogs and they've come with me to many restaurants...fond memories of buster being served on a silver platter in carmel...i don't think he would turn his nose up at horse thief either.

                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                  I was thinking more along the lines of guys with expensive and over powered cars and their little "wieners" (big cars as an overcompensation mechanism).

                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                    you're right...i guess they are easier on the corinthian leather than large terriers

                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                  plus one here.

                                                                  hence door man duties if you will.

                                                                2. re: raytamsgv

                                                                  Under California law, only service dogs are allowed to enter restaurants

                                                                  1. re: Ernie

                                                                    patios---i guess not an issue at newport tan cang...was confusing this with the bit about the patio at GCM

                                                          2. Wonder if this a move by the City of BH similar to the sea changes occuring at the Americana and South Coast Plaza with the introduction of Din Tai Fung and soon to be arriving reputable Chinese restaurants. It may not be that there so many more westside Chinese, but that BH is trying to attract the Chinese to live and/or shop in BH.

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                                                            1. re: revets2

                                                              It may be in anticipation to the new wave, ...er make that tsunami of Chinese tourists projected to visit BH in the next few years.

                                                              Same reason why Westfield brought in Meizhou Dongpo to Century City mall...

                                                              1. re: J.L.

                                                                Exactamundo. Good example. Had forgotten about that one.

                                                                1. Just In from LA Eater:
                                                                  the real estate firm responsible for leasing out short lived Greek restaurant Xandros on La Cienega's restaurant row, confirms that Newport Seafood is the venue's next tenant

                                                                   
                                                                  1. My next generation Chowhound, a big Newport Seafood fan, is surprisingly negative about this development. She's afraid they'll double the price of lobster and dumb down the food. And before you dismiss the thought, can you say "Mon Kee Seafood"?

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                                                                    1. re: Chandavkl

                                                                      If they don't "dumb down the food" they won't have enough (any?) customers.

                                                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                        I think they will be authentic upon opening but as soon as the traffic dies down, they'll sell out for their own livelihood which would be understandable. This restaurant opening in this location reminds me of a horrible choice of eating in 'noodles' in the Bellagio casino after seeing the 'O' where the restaurant was stunningly beautiful with stunning prices and authentic dishes with american tastes in mind(like beef chow fun with kikkoman packets on the side)

                                                                        1. re: polldeldiablo

                                                                          Reminds me of the won ton soup I had in El Paso 50 years ago. Came with a packet of saltine crackers.

                                                                          1. re: polldeldiablo

                                                                            I just thought of a horrible analog--Sea Harbour's ill fated location at Caesar's Palace. Terrible food at high prices.

                                                                        2. re: Chandavkl

                                                                          Blast from the past - Mon Kee - did they once move to a tonier zip code and dumb things down? Like a mall, maybe the Century City mall?
                                                                          This is tickling neurons that have not been touched in decades.

                                                                          1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                            Yes and yes. They were on restaurant row on La Cienega probably in the mid-1980s. I think their spot became Woo Lae Oak and then Genwa.

                                                                            1. re: Chandavkl

                                                                              Thanks Dave: mid-eighties is nothing but a temperature reading for most reading this!

                                                                              1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                Ah, I am listening to Band Aid (ca.1984-85) as I type!

                                                                                1. re: J.L.

                                                                                  What is that ?????????

                                                                                  Of course referencing my inner mr bacon bits.

                                                                                  Thanks.