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Apr 23, 2014 10:15 AM
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Recent closures - surprised ?

Max's Burger (W.8th) - not surprised.

Cafe Regalade (W. 4th) - surprised

Judas Goat Taberna (Gastown) - SURPRISED ! :-(

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  1. agree with Max's; only had brekky once at C. Reg -- it was okay. Never made it to Judas but it is part of Heather Hospitality Group and is being made over into a Mexican resto called Gringo's :-(. It made it for four years, anyway.

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    1. re: grayelf

      What is the implication of it being part of Heather Hospitality Group? Does it suck?

      1. re: brokentelephone

        Not at all -- Sean Heather is a savvy businessperson, and I'm guessing there's a reason he switched concepts, despite a lot of love for JG. I'm always a bit suspicious of Mexican restos in Vancouver, and the name isn't helping, however.

        1. re: grayelf

          " I'm always a bit suspicious of Mexican restos in Vancouver, and the name isn't helping, however."

          +1. If intended to be sardonic, it ain't gonna work on me.

      2. re: grayelf

        Regarding Gringos: It's not Mexican nor Tex-Mex. The tacos try to be more traditional but there are some fast food tex-mex elements in their food.

        They are kinda of stuck in no man's land. For traditional Mexican , La Taqueria is much better. If you looking for like Taco Time Tex-Mex, you'll find the tacos weird and expensive.

        I was looking for a quick lunch and the food was passable but if you going to judge by authenticity by either cuisine then it's not going to make you happy.

      3. Cafe Regalade was a weird one. It morphed from a vanity project pastry shop by the son into the Cafe and then a few months ago the son (who was running that location and fairly successfully it seemed) simply walked out one day without telling his father in West Van and left the place unopened for a few days until Dad scrambled in some new managing staff and reopened. Now it's closed for good it looks.

        Somewhat cursed location that must be "destination" to work as it's impossible to see driving towards MacDonald on 4th.

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        1. re: eatrustic

          Some family dynamics in there for sure. Brigitte & Alain split up a few years ago, and AFAIK she went to start up Cafe Regalade with son Steeve. Then she started up Cigale after taking Bistrot Bistro's space, and having younger son Kevin run the kitchen. Steeve stayed on with Cafe R and now ...... who knows ?

          http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/01...

        2. I'll be good as long as Yamato's and Vera's burgers stay open

          1. Liberty Bakery on Main St papered up but not sure if closed or renovating? (and where do I go now for brandy snaps?)

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            1. re: J and V

              Saw that too, forgot to mention it here. They've been declining badly for the past few years and is a far cry from their heyday:

              http://chowtimes.com/2007/06/28/liber...

              My most recent time there (February 2014) was rather awkward. I've not seen the owner couple Liberty & Gunnar Gustafson there for a long time, and most of the time the bakery is just operated by staff. The day I was there the staff (young Japanese girl and older Latina-looking lady) were quiet and somber. No background music in the room. Not a single customer in the room except my son and I. Perhaps they already knew the shop was about to close (?) but the whole ambiance felt as if someone had just died.

              I feel bad Liberty is no longer, because for many years it was a cheerful cozy sanctuary to stop by and take a reprieve from the busy world. But I admit with their essence lacking these past 2-3 years (and prices gone up very noticeably) I no longer felt compelled to give regular patronage.

              1. re: LotusRapper

                any advice on good brandy snaps on the west side :)?

                1. re: J and V

                  Broadmoor Bakery in Richmond has 'em.

                  West side Vancouver ..... dunno. Maybe Nottes Bon Ton ?

                2. re: LotusRapper

                  Read that Liberty is being made over and will be reopened as a more "indie" café serving Matchstick, with new owners. No ETA that I could find.

                3. re: J and V

                  Oh, I wish I'd known in advance! My freezer would be full of their lemon tarts and brandy snaps. Makes me sad to hear.

                4. Galloways -- both stores? Surprised!

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                    1. re: Scoffier

                      Given it's location at the end of an out-of-the-way and hard to get to mall, I'm not surprised

                      1. re: repartee

                        Kits Daily is for sale. (ie soon to be closed)

                          1. re: quddous

                            I heard over the weekend that he is moving to a bigger location, hopefully with a patio.

                      2. re: KarenDW

                        Galloways Richmond is definitely closing. Price of remaining inventory is reduced by 50%

                        1. re: KarenDW

                          I thought they were clearing out the Burnaby stock at the Richmond location. Did you read/hear specifically that they are closing Richmond, or inferring that from the sale?

                          1. re: kinnickinnik

                            The story that Scoffier linked to (above) has been updated to say the Richmond Galloways is closing as well as the one in Burnaby..

                            1. re: Anne M

                              Oh, that's sucky news indeed! Thanks for pointing out the update though.

                              1. re: kinnickinnik

                                At the risk of being attacked by a relative of yet another failed.....yes the word is failed restro in Van let me make some obvious observations/and questions:
                                Bottom line is 'bums in seats'. Right? Who are the potential customers for these 'hipster'.....yes hipster restros? (They don't cater to mom and dad and their three kids under five.)
                                Hipsters who imagine themselves 'grazing' in Madrid or San Remo or Manhattan.
                                These people are simply not inclined to go to one or two favorite restros. "The White Moose is SOOOOO last week".
                                They want dozens to choose from.
                                They are as fickle as the only pretty girl on prom night.
                                The time and hassle and money it takes to try out 'The Yardstick' on W.Broadway, last week known as the 'Stickyard' simply isn't worth the effort. Especially during the workweek.
                                So that's strike one.
                                Strike two are the silly amateurs who are vain enough to believe they can buck the tidal wave of failing restros.
                                "My wife's cousin needs a job. He has just graduated from the Malaspina Cooking College in Nanaimo.
                                He has some snowboarding buddies who say they'll work for minimum wage for the first two years. Mom and dad aren't quite 'tapped out' of their life savings and we don't need to trade the 'M5' this year. And as soon as our second baby is born Linda will come back to work part time".
                                Any of this sound familiar?
                                Strike three is not having literal cash in the pocket to pay the purveyors when they phone and offer you a hundred pounds of live Dungeness crab at half wholesale price if you pay cash when the truck pulls up in fifteen minutes.
                                If you don't the crabs will go to your asian competition across the street which for some reason has stayed in business in the same location for fifteen years.
                                Strike........what is it now? Four? No liquor license no makey money.

                                1. re: Puffin3

                                  Your posts > all others on this site

                                    1. re: brokentelephone

                                      But you never actually posted anything.
                                      Something specific you'd like to address?
                                      Where am I going wrong?
                                      There are simply TOO many very good ethnic restros now.
                                      When you see a restro that has changed menus/focus twice a year you KNOW something is wrong. Usually the bank manager is the first person to let these 'wanna-be' Daniel Bouluds the games up.

                                        1. re: brokentelephone

                                          Sorry for my misunderstanding.
                                          I feel I can post about this topic having succumbed to my own hubris having opened one of these restaurants.
                                          After a couple of years of working 14/7 I only escaped with the shirt on my back financially.......and that was only b/c some budding restaurateurs insisted on buying my place. I still think I was 'smarter' at running the business than many. If only I'd been able to borrow another 50K! LOL

                                          1. re: Puffin3

                                            What did you own?

                                            My Dad has probably opened 20 restaurants over the years, and only one (in Vancouver) stood the test of time (until he sold it and then, obviously, the new owner changed the recipes and it was closed within a year).

                                            1. re: brokentelephone

                                              A very small one in a then booming tourist town in BC. I couldn't lose!
                                              Until one day the buses stopped bringing the tourists. The weather turned 'rainy'.
                                              My chef had a fight with his girlfriend, my head waitress and he quit.
                                              One day there's a lunch hour line up. The next day it's like the place had a sign in front warning people there may be MAD COW in the burgers.