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27 foods you can find in Tulsa but NOT New York. Am I wrong?

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Someone dared me to come up with any Tulsa food, dish or restaurant that you can't also find in New York. After a bit of thought I came up with 27 food things we have in Tulsa that New Yorkers can only dream about. But am I right? Sadly it has been many years since I walked under the train tracks of Roosevelt Ave in search for the perfect Ecuadorian or trolled the basements of Flushing office buildings hoping to find food stalls from a new region of China. (Oh how I miss those days!) That's why I'm posting this here. So if there are things on my list that you now can get in NYC, tell me and I'll put a note at the end of the article. Here's the list. I'm also including a photo of one of these foods, Sichuan-style pig brains with tofu.
http://tulsafood.com/reviews/27-food-...
(Need I add that there are 27 million things in NYC that you can't find in Tulsa.)

 
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  1. They make a mighty fine Jaeger schnitzel at Lomyznianka. I've ordered it many times. I think its on the menu of a lot of the Polish places in Greenpoint.

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    1. re: MVNYC

      I never thought of trying that at the Polish places. But Polish food is one thing Tulsa lacks, and people are so envious here when I tell them about all the sausage stores like W-Nassau on Manhattan Ave with sausages hanging on the ceiling and no one speaking anything but Polish.

    2. Why not share your list here, instead of forcing readers to click on your link and leave Chowhound to read it?

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      1. re: squid kun

        because of the photos. The list doesn't make as much sense without the photos. Plus I'd have to reprint the whole list and that will be really long, because again without the whole explanatory text it won't make sense.

        1. re: Brian S

          Words do make sense without photos, especially when chosen by a good writer like yourself. Just give us the dish names and short descriptions, please; anyone who wants to see them can click through.

          1. re: squid kun

            I've loved brian's contributions on chowhound for years, but this post title is misleading. the link actually leads to a list of good food items in Tulsa -- most of which, save tex-mex and a couple others -- are available here, many in superior renditions.

            Heidelberg also offers up an excellent jager schnitzel, by the way

            1. re: debinqueens

              I meant it to have only things which are not available in NYC. But as I said it's been 5 years and I could have got it wrong.

              1. re: debinqueens

                Of course NYC has a few German restaurants. I wonder if the Schlitz, deep in the South Bronx at the corner of 137 and Willow, is still around. Anyone know? But what I said in the article was that unlike any of those, Siegi's in Tulsa makes its own sausages (which are sold throughout the city). By the way in my article I referred to the 1905 boat disaster that decimated the German community, and my 83 year old neighbor said, "my grandparents died on that boat."

                1. re: Brian S

                  No more Schlitz in da Bronx...What a cool place it 'twas.

                  I was just reading about he General Slocum disaster today. Decimated the German Lower East Side community...many remaining moved uptown to Yorkville and opened up the Bavarian Inn, Heidelberg, Ideal Lunch & Bar, Lorelei, Kleine Konditorei, Elk Candy Marzipan and so many other historic places on East 86th Street. Aside from Schaller & Weber and Heidelberg, all gone.

            2. re: Brian S

              Having the photos appear embedded in the text makes a lot of sense. That's how on line newspapers and magazines do it. Invision message boards too.

              BrianS - welcome back.

              1. re: Bob Martinez

                You have no idea how much I miss you guys... and miss the restaurants of New York. Maybe I'll write a list of 2700 food things NYC has but Tulsa doesn't. Still, the Tulsa restaurant scene has taken off dramatically in the past 3 years.

                1. re: Brian S

                  good to hear that, about Tulsa. I spent some time in Omaha about a year ago and I was pleasantly surprised at some of the finds there. great steaks, I expected, but there were some outstanding Czech/Slovak places and an Indian place that really blew me away -- went in with a definite 'show me' attitude, and I was shown. spice levels in the heat-packing dishes were impressive, flavors not dumbed down in the least, which is what I expected from a place in a strip mall.....

            3. re: squid kun

              It doesn't really "force" you to leave Chowhound, squid kun. It simply opens the article in another window. And Chowhound discourages posting lengthy quotes or articles in their entirety from other websites or publications. They prefer users to post a link.

              Love the pictures, Brian S.

              1. re: ninrn

                >Chowhound discourages posting lengthy quotes or articles in their entirety from other websites or publications. They prefer users to post a link.

                Actually the site discourages users from linking their blogs without including the gist of their blog content here on Chowhound. As the site's guidelines say: "make sure your post would be useful even without the blog link and includes both what your suggestion or opinion is and some specifics on why you feel that way."

                A post like Brian's, which teases a list of 27 dishes but shares only one of them with Chowhound readers—forcing them to become TulsaFood readers to see the rest—violates that guideline.

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3676...

                1. re: squid kun

                  When he was living in NY Brian posted *tons* of detailed recommendations. Personally I'd cut him a little slack but it's your call.

                  1. re: Bob Martinez

                    >Personally I'd cut him a little slack but it's your call.

                    That may have been the thinking of the mods. Sure, Brian's posted great reports here. This wasn't one of them. And as I noted earlier, it would've been easy to provide a short version here, including the full list, for those who don't have time to read the whole thing.

                    1. re: Bob Martinez

                      Thanks, Bob!!! I was hoping to get feedback on the article, feedback such as "you're wrong about that Sichuan dish, you can get it at Spicy & Tasty" (although this wouldn't happen, since I checked Spicy & Tasty's online menu). And the best way of doing this was to post a link to the article.

                      1. re: Brian S

                        also the guy who owns and runs TulsaFood.com (it's not me, it's not my blog!) wouldn't be thrilled if I put a lengthy recap of my article on another website, such as this one.

                    2. re: squid kun

                      You know, you may be right in many cases, but in this case i disagree. I think the OP provided enough description in the text so that someone, if they were interested could click and get more info. You get the gist of the article. The article isn't just a list of stuff anyway, there is lengthy description which is necessary. So, yeah, as Bob says, cut the dude some slack.
                      It not at all like my pet peeve, which is a headline saying:
                      "What do you think of this?" followed by
                      http://linktonowherefoodarticle.com

                2. Disagree with most, save for the cajun. Why can't we have good cajun here? Huntsville, AL, has two cajun restaurants that are 10x better than anything here (and a third that's on par or better). Sure, it's geographically closer, but ...

                  And we have tons of Dominican, it's just our emphasis is slightly different ;)

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                  1. re: lambretta76

                    yeah. we had good Cajun a couple of times. Cajun, the restaurant, had good moments before sliding into mediocrity. Mara's got next to no support before giving up and moving to Long Island.

                    1. re: lambretta76

                      I meant food from the island of Dominica and not the Dominican Republic. I don't think you'll find food from Dominica in Brooklyn, I searched this message board before I put it on the list.

                      1. re: Brian S

                        sorry for the Dominican misunderstanding....as far as I know, you're correct about the cuisine of Dominica being absent here.....it is good to see/read your posts again.

                        1. re: debinqueens

                          I was just trying to make a joke about the pronunciation (and emphasis) of dah-mah-NEE-kan versus dah-MINH-ah-can. I failed. Misérable. ;) (I swear I'm done.)

                          Nope, no food from Dominica hear that I know of. (We do have some from their neighbor Guadeloupe, but not the same.)

                          I think Acadia Parish in Brooklyn had at one time been good, but by the time I got here in the late 90s it was on a downhill slide and I believe closed shortly thereafter. Heard good about Jacques-Imo's when it first opened, but never made it before it, too, went downhill and closed.

                        2. re: Brian S

                          A stand flying the flag of Dominica has appeared more than once at the West Indian Day Parade. The proprietors served curry shrimp, stew chicken, lo mein -- street-fair food, that is, nothing a match for the best at Sisserou's, by the looks of your report.

                          I've seen that same flag -- the parrot in the center is hard to miss -- hanging outside a bar in Larchmont, New York, a town I pass through on train rides back to Connecticut. The U.S. flag, and several Irish flags, are displayed outside, too. One day I made time to stop by. Many folks of evident Caribbean descent, said the bartender, had stopped by over the years on a similar mission, to ask (more or less), "Why are you flying the flag of my country?"

                          Those folks must have been more disappointed than I was to learn that the owner (not present during my visit) is a big fan of the singer Jimmy Buffett, whose fans have long been known as "Parrot Heads." To little surprise, only one of the world's national flags features a parrot; the owner displays it, as well as assorted parrot-phernalia inside the bar, solely out of devotion to Buffett. Alas, no chow is involved.

                          Dave Cook
                          www.EatingInTranslation.com

                          1. re: DaveCook

                            Dave, what bar is that? The past 6-7 months I have worked with several places in Larchmont and never noticed any place like that.

                            1. re: JMF

                              JMF, it's The Cellar Bar, 8 Railroad Way. If not from a passing train, my original vantage point, you'd probably never spot it except from the station parking lot.

                              Dave Cook
                              www.EatingInTranslation.com

                              1. re: DaveCook

                                Thanks. By the way, good hanging out with you the other day.

                        3. re: lambretta76

                          We had good cajun in Queens, Cooking With Jazz but they closed for lack of business.

                        4. brian, it was just wonderful to read your post, you are missed! As for your list, it looks like you've being doing some serious "investigative work" :)

                          Mostly, I'd agree with others that the list doesn't really hold water. Does something like steak really pass the smell test?

                          btw, since you moved away the bbq scene is NYC has improved. I couldn't say which city has better bbq but I can state with some authority, having judged over 20 bbq contests around the country, that NYC BBQ is very credible at this point.

                          Best,

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                          1. re: vinouspleasure

                            Thank you for remembering me! What I meant about the steak... of course Peter Luger has better steaks. But Frank Bruni wrote this in 2000, or to be more accurate quoted it from another writer: “There’s not a single restaurant where I found every one of the ingredients that make up a Perfect Steak Experience: memorable meat, stellar accompaniments, an inviting setting, distinctive wine service. Each place I visited had its hits and misses.” And I said that if he visited Prhyme in Tulsa, he would find every one of these ingredients of the Perfect Steak Experience even though Luger's steak might be better.

                            1. re: Brian S

                              that's a pretty fine distinction and, while I'm sure it's meaningful for you, I think it's lost on most of us with access to not just luger's but good french, chinese, japanese, italian, Argentinian, Korean (etc) preparations,

                          2. Come back here and try Dhaulagiri Kitchen. 10 seats. Good goat. Block off the Roosevelt el.

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                            1. re: wewwew

                              Wow the Nepali scene has really improved! I'd bet it's better than anything I found in Nepal (not counting the pie shops near Freak Street). Tulsa doesn't have anything than that. If there are any Nepalis here they probably would work in an Indian restaurant, just as our Hmong people (which NYC does not have) cook, if they work in restaurants, Thai food.

                            2. Calvin Trillin led off his classic "American Fried" with the bald statement, "The best restaurants in the world, of course, are in Kansas City. Not all of them, only the top four or five." But maybe they're in Tulsa instead? :-)

                              From the headline I thought this was about foods, i.e. dishes and ingredients, that can't be found in New York at all. Instead, it's about Tulsa restaurants that you believe are better than some comparable places in New York. I'm sure this is valuable information for people in Tulsa - I would have liked to have it for my few visits there. But really, this kind of opinion piece is pointless to dispute, like Trillin's. Especially if one hasn't eaten at the Tulsa places oneself.

                              Just for the information, there are quite a few places in New York where you can get cajun food and chicken fried steak. How they compare with your Tulsa favorites, I couldn't say. Jacques-Imo's New York place had the best cajun and creole in town but he closed it a while ago. Restaurants here come and go.

                              Supermarkets? Who needs them with their acres of standard national brands? Within a couple of blocks of where I live there are a standard food store, a Trader Joe's, a Korean produce store, two middle eastern food stores and a middle eastern bakery, and a small upscale store featuring organic and artisanal foods. A little further away are a butcher and fishmonger. It's Brooklyn and the livin' is easy.

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                              1. re: John Francis

                                How scary, I know every place in your post.

                              2. I spent a week in Tulsa one night! ;)
                                Now I need to go back.
                                Thanks for a great post, Brian.
                                (btw, I was just in Taqueria Coatzingo. As good as always.)

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                                1. re: el jefe

                                  Well there's nothing like Coatzingo here though there are a ton of Mexican restaurants. Though a few restaurants have entrees served in moljacetes, which I never saw in NYC. Also Tex-Mex of course.

                                2. I haven't been to Tulsa in many years and now I want to go again. Stay gold, Ponyboy....

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                                  1. re: ratgirlagogo

                                    "nothing gold can stay," said Robert Frost, but I do my best. So many new excellent restaurants you won't recognize Tulsa anymore. We truly have fine dining.

                                    1. re: Brian S

                                      Over the years I thought about you when old threads you posted on pop up to the surface. I'd wondered how you were getting on in Tulsa. It looks like you're doing just fine. That's great news.

                                      We miss you here.

                                  2. I just linked to your list and it kinda looks like Houston junior, a good thing, but without taco trucks on every corner. You folks must have some, we have them in droves, a great thing. I like that Tex-Mex! Every time I see someone in Toledo or Toronto or anywhere other than Texas or Oklahoma dismiss food as just being Tex-Mex I google the menu and it nowhere resembles it in any shape or form. Those ribs looked mighty fine as well, no stinking baby backs.

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                                    1. re: James Cristinian

                                      Tulsa has taco trucks all over the place, and tons of Mexican restaurants, some surprisingly good. But I could not put that in my list because New York has more and better, on Roosevelt Avenue. Similarly, I didn't list Tulsa's fine Lebanese restaurants because you can also find Lebanese restaurants in Astoria around 30 Street west of the elevated subway tracks.

                                      1. re: Brian S

                                        Not to mention Bay Ridge ... http://www.chow.com/food-news/149489/...

                                    2. Also it was way the other side of Queens. The only time I went out there was for a place Jim Leff recommended, Mississippi Barbecue.

                                      1. Yeah I actually made the trip to Bay Ridge to eat at Tanoreen Restaurant. Food was so good I went back again a few weeks later.

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                                        1. re: Brian S

                                          And of course there is now Au Za'atar for Lebanese food in Manhattan.

                                        2. Nice article, but most of it is through the lens of someone who doesn't know NYC's current food scene.

                                          For example, there are indeed Cajun restaurants here, certainly not as good as in New Orleans, or even perhaps yours in Tulsa. But right up the street from me in Astoria is Sugarfreak. In Hell's Kitchen there is Delta Grill, and Bourbon Street, as well (the latter not being very good).

                                          BBQ is all the rage. While perhaps not up to your standards in OK, there are a couple serious ones in Astoria, and Mighty Quinn's (in the EV?) is considered very good.

                                          We certainly do have Iranian food -- usually referred to as Persian here -- and I bet you could get those Sichuan pig brains with tofu if you knew where to go in Flushing.

                                          The German food -- that we do need more and better of.

                                          1. Just wanted to add that over the past 3 or 4 years, Tulsa's top chefs have incredibly improved their game. They could compete in New York, and if you don't believe me -- and if you'd told me this 5 years ago I would have fallen off my chair I'd be laughing so hard -- check out the photos here.
                                            http://tulsafood.com/reviews/battle-o...