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LA Weekly 20 Best Restaurants in LA. I know "Not another list"

wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:06 AM

Ludo is their #1. What was left out and who doesn't belong?
20. Kogi
19. Melisse
18. Chengdu Taste
17. Spago
16. Mozza
15. Tsujita LA
14. Hinoki and the Bird
13. Lukshon
12. Rivera
11. Guisados
10. Red Medicine
9. Sqirl
8. n/naka
7. Shunji
6. Night + Market
5. Animal
4. Baco Mercat
3. Lucques
2. Providence
1. Trois Mec

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  1. wienermobile RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:07 AM

    Maybe Maude is too new but it didn't make the cut.

    1. orythedog RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:35 AM

      Perhaps not quite an apples to apples comparison, but at least in Dish of the Month, there is a voting thread. I always wonder what the criteria are for articles like this. Also, the piece begins with a picture of something at Baco Mercat, which doesn't seem to be liked by many people and it ranks #4.

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        BacoMan RE: orythedog Apr 18, 2014 12:45 AM

        Yes indeed. A restaurant that is literally packed to capacity every day of the week is not liked by many people.

        I am sure most restauranteurs and chefs would kill to have their restaurants not liked in such a way.

      2. Servorg RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:45 AM

        No Chi Spacca. Which I agree with. No Coni' Seafood. Which I don't agree with.

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          Thor123 RE: Servorg Apr 16, 2014 11:30 AM

          Surprised you are not a Chi Spacca fan. Why not?

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            Servorg RE: Thor123 Apr 16, 2014 12:08 PM

            My dinner there was pretty disappointing. That said we didn't have the tomahawk pork chop or the bistecca alla Fiorentina. We did have the Focaccia De Recco, the roasted cauliflower - crushed lemon bagna cauda and the Marrow and beef cheek pie. The food just didn't thrill me, and the crust on the pie was so dense and thick it was not pleasant. We both really liked the banana crostata for dessert. I also didn't find the room charming in any way.

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              Thor123 RE: Servorg Apr 16, 2014 12:55 PM

              We had very different menus. If you like pork, try the tomahawk and cured meat platter. Really good. There was no way I could ever eat desert there so cant comment on that. I dont know that the room is overly charming, but I thought it was not unlike Picca or Sotto and certainly much nicer than Salt's Cure.

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                BacoMan RE: Thor123 Apr 18, 2014 12:44 AM

                No, it's fine. It's getting crowded enough as it is.

                Leave the tables open for those of us desperate for a dining room with proper lighting, and decent music!

                As for why they aren't on this list...seems to me like it purposefully is ignoring restaurants younger than a year, hence why Bucato, Maude, Bestia, Alma, Chi Spacca, etc... aren't there.

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                omotosando RE: Servorg Apr 20, 2014 08:59 PM

                Wow, different strokes for different folks. I love the room at Chi Spacca. Reminds me of a New York hole in the wall.

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                  Servorg RE: omotosando Apr 21, 2014 03:32 AM

                  To me the room (energy, vibe, ambiance) at Angelini Osteria offers up the type of NY, hole in the wall type of room much more than Chi Spacca does.

                  Never mind the food at Angelini blows Chi Spacca's offerings into the weeds by my estimation. No contest. Ali (Clay) over Liston. Jets over Colts, Super Bowl III.

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                    BacoMan RE: Servorg Apr 21, 2014 11:08 AM

                    Sent a couple from Oklahoma that was dining at Chi Spacca next to me last week to Angelini for their second meal in LA.

                    I wonder how they ended up liking it.

                    Haven't been back there in a while actually. As much as I liked the tripe and cuttlefish, I don't really recall being blown away by meals there.

                    It is way more of an NYC hole-in-the-wall though.

          2. wienermobile RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:49 AM

            Animal definitely belongs on this list.

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              carter RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:55 AM

              It is #5

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                wienermobile RE: carter Apr 16, 2014 09:03 AM

                i know i was agreeing .

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                  carter RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 10:55 AM

                  Funny, I have never had a desire to eat there, regardless of most of the glowing accolades.
                  And I am hardly a vegetarian!

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              carter RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:54 AM

              A couple of random observations that makes lists like this one so difficult to relate to:
              I mean, come on, Sqirl, Baco Mercat, Guisados or Kogi, on the same list as Trois Mec, Providence, Shunji or Lucques?!
              Talk about apples & peacocks.

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                ns1 RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 08:59 AM

                Lol @kogi

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                  Dirtywextraolives RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 09:00 AM

                  Kogi isn't even a restaurant?!

                  1. The Oracle RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 10:09 AM

                    Craft should be on the list!

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                      omotosando RE: The Oracle Apr 20, 2014 09:01 PM

                      Craft? Why? I always want to love it because the room is so civilized and the service so good, but I'm always astonished by how high the bill is versus the pleasure I received from the meal and how nothing is ever memorable.

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                      nosh RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 10:54 AM

                      Gjelina should be on the list.

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                        wienermobile RE: nosh Apr 16, 2014 10:55 AM

                        Gjelina does belongs on the list. Son of A Gun and MB Post also.

                      2. wienermobile RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 11:12 AM

                        Stinking Rose?

                        1. A5 KOBE RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 12:19 PM

                          Must...not...click...link.

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                            a213b RE: A5 KOBE Apr 16, 2014 01:19 PM

                            I get an out-of-proportion sense of satisfaction from never clicking the link when this type of thread pops up.

                            Suffice to say, I maybe (MAYBE) agree with half of the list.

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                              ns1 RE: a213b Apr 16, 2014 01:44 PM

                              Same. I just wait until someone posts it on CH.

                              Can't keep rewarding this behavior!

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                            ilysla RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 03:00 PM

                            I'm thinking I gotta try Guisados! I've already been to the Stinking Rose.... ;)

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                              Thor123 RE: ilysla Apr 16, 2014 03:17 PM

                              We should never have got started with the Stinking Rose.

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                                ns1 RE: Thor123 Apr 16, 2014 03:28 PM

                                lol

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                                  JAB RE: Thor123 Apr 16, 2014 04:17 PM

                                  Think anyone was actually steered there?

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                                    The Oracle RE: JAB Apr 16, 2014 04:26 PM

                                    probably!!!!

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                                      JAB RE: The Oracle Apr 16, 2014 04:37 PM

                                      Nah, they would have come back and cussed us out.

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                                        ilysla RE: JAB Apr 16, 2014 05:52 PM

                                        Or maybe they enjoyed it so much that....

                              2. J.L. RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 05:42 PM

                                Not another list

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                                  Servorg RE: J.L. Apr 16, 2014 06:05 PM

                                  Strange when you actually want to feel listless...

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                                  foodiemahoodie RE: wienermobile Apr 16, 2014 06:36 PM

                                  Night + Market I like, have been a few times, look forward to going back, but I don't think it would make my top 20.

                                  Angelini Osteria would however.

                                  Probably not Red Medicine either (sorry, I know some people love it - I gave it a second try and found it to be good, just not great).

                                  Also missing.

                                  Alma.

                                  Urasawa.

                                  Craft

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                                    set0312 RE: foodiemahoodie Apr 17, 2014 01:33 PM

                                    It seems Alma has been trendy to rate on the low side since the best new restaurant thing.

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                                    BacoMan RE: wienermobile Apr 17, 2014 01:00 PM

                                    B├Ąco beats out almost everywhere.

                                    Beautiful.

                                    =D

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                                      ns1 RE: BacoMan Apr 17, 2014 01:08 PM

                                      yeah but kogi is on the same list. how do you reconcile THAT.

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                                        BacoMan RE: ns1 Apr 18, 2014 12:39 AM

                                        Does Kogi suck?

                                        Last time I ate there it was pretty great.

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                                          foodiemahoodie RE: BacoMan Apr 19, 2014 08:23 PM

                                          Kogi is great, but not top 20.

                                          Melisse one spot higher than Kogi? Insulting. And wildly ignorant. Punished for being posh? Really?

                                    2. Porthos RE: wienermobile Apr 17, 2014 01:48 PM

                                      Missing the 2 hardest to make reservations in town right now: Bestia and Maude.

                                      Also, Bucato should be on there.

                                      Thanks for copying the list so I don't have to click and so they don't get credit for it.

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                                        ns1 RE: Porthos Apr 17, 2014 02:01 PM

                                        "Thanks for copying the list so I don't have to click and so they don't get credit for it."

                                        that should be a new rule for anyone posting a list.

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                                          BacoMan RE: Porthos Apr 18, 2014 12:46 AM

                                          Has Bestia improved or something?...

                                          Maude is understandable, but what is making Bestia that difficult of a reservation?

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                                          ronsilverado RE: wienermobile Apr 19, 2014 10:50 AM

                                          My last few visits to Rustic Canyon would certainly qualify it for this list, at least more than several places that did make it.

                                          I think one needs to define the criteria a little bit more clearly than "the best" when making a list like this, but I guess that wouldn't have the same click-bait appeal to it. There is a case to be made that places like Sqirl and Kogi are quintessential LA restaurants, but not necessarily "the best" in LA. Lord knows Langer's is my favorite restaurant in the city, but even so I would not put it on a list with Providence, Melisse, etc.

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                                            Servorg RE: ronsilverado Apr 19, 2014 10:53 AM

                                            "Lord knows Langer's is my favorite restaurant in the city, but even so I would not put it on a list with Providence, Melisse, etc."

                                            I think that's why I always like J Gold's "essential" list. A good word that allows the Langer's to be lumped in with the Melisse's of the world.

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                                              maudies5 RE: Servorg Apr 19, 2014 10:58 AM

                                              Good point, Servorg. I also would have included The Grill On The Alley in B.H. on that list. Had lunch there yesterday and everything was A+

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                                                foodiemahoodie RE: Servorg Apr 19, 2014 08:24 PM

                                                Very much in agreement on all points

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                                                BacoMan RE: ronsilverado Apr 20, 2014 04:17 AM

                                                "Lord knows Langer's is my favorite restaurant in the city, but even so I would not put it on a list with Providence, Melisse, etc."

                                                Why not?

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                                                  bulavinaka RE: BacoMan Apr 20, 2014 07:15 AM

                                                  Why?

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                                                    wienermobile RE: bulavinaka Apr 20, 2014 09:25 AM

                                                    Food should be judged by the food it self and not by it's price. Your stomach doesn't know how much a meal costs.

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                                                      ns1 RE: wienermobile Apr 20, 2014 10:03 AM

                                                      Counterpoint: langers isn't a best restaurant, it's a best pastrami sandwich.

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                                                        BacoMan RE: ns1 Apr 21, 2014 11:03 AM

                                                        What's the difference? Restaurants are just places that attempt to serve the best food possible...aren't they?

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                                                          ns1 RE: BacoMan Apr 21, 2014 02:55 PM

                                                          That's true for the pastrami, not necessarily true about everything else on the menu.

                                                          Id expect a "best restaurant" to have top notch everything.

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                                                            bulavinaka RE: ns1 Apr 21, 2014 04:03 PM

                                                            Yup. If the list were for the best dishes, I could understand. I would totally concur on Langer's pastrami. But this list is about the best restaurant - to me, one needs to consider the totality of the place - not one dish.

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