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Apr 14, 2014 02:41 PM

BROTH: Searching for flavor

Does anyone know where I can purchase the best, deeply flavored broth? Lamb, beef, chicken or whatever.. I use this broth to eat on it's own or to cook with at home like in a dumpling soup. The stronger the broth flavor the better! I don't care if it's mexican broth or asian or whatever.. I can cook with it all the same.
I would appreciate any suggestions you may have and that includes restaurants, markets, butcher shops or anywhere one may purchase broth thats worthy of such an effort.
I suppose an alternative would be anywhere I could purchase good bones for making broth but I need a source that is not too expensive if i'm going to put the work in it myself. For that matter if you only have a recipe suggestion for how to make the best broth I would gladly utilize this information.
I have bought my bones from Rudolph's Meat Market before and it was very good but they seemed quite expensive considering they are simply bones.
I realize i have asked about soups in the past but I thought this would warrant a new posting.
Thanks for the help

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  1. First Chinese BBQ in Richardson makes a delicious, very deeply flavored broth using pig neck bones. Among other uses, this broth is used primarily for their great, shrimp won-ton soup.
    Arguably, the best in town.

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    1. re: twinwillow

      In addition to my above comment, I wanted to also suggest some of the Hispanic supermarkets in Dallas such as Fiesta and El Ranchito, etc. for meat bones. Great selections at much lower cost than Rudolf's. And, I would imagine the larger Asian markets such as 99 Ranch Market, etc. would also have the meat bones you're looking for as well at very low prices.

      1. re: twinwillow

        Is 99 Ranch Market better than my usual spots like H-mart or Hong Kong Market?
        On google maps it says Hmart underneath 99 Ranch market so now i'm a little confused by that.

        1. re: neiladammcginnis

          I've been to the Hong Kong market to buy lobsters and sometimes I'll go to the Asian market down the strip from Jeng Chi after eating there. However, I don't usually shop at those larger Asian markets primarily because I live too far away in the Uptown area close to downtown Dallas.
          But from what I have gathered on these pages, 99 Ranch Market is THE Asian market to shop at.

          1. re: twinwillow

            I went to 99 Ranch Market which was really cool. It seemed like they have a better selection of fresh herbs and whatnot. I will definitely go back but unfortunately I still had to go by HMart to get frozen dumplings because at 99RM there were only like 3 types of frozen dumplings whereas in HM they have like 40 different types. So I thought that was odd. The other thing I missed was at HM they have a store that sells fruit smoothies and whatnot and I love to get their honeydew melon smoothie it's amazing.
            I still have yet to try Hiep Thai so that will be next.

            1. re: neiladammcginnis

              You can go about 1/2 mile north of 99 Ranch to Asia World Market on Legacy to get your dumplings and there is a food court outside the actual store at the west end of the center.

              1. re: LewisvilleHounder

                Ok i will check that out next time. And I like asian food courts so that sounds good. I see something on Yelp about a asia world market that closed..? Is that a different one? Trying to save the location on my google maps.

      2. re: twinwillow

        Thanks for the help I will check that out. Not the first time I have heard that place referenced for having good food.

        Do you think I can just buy a bunch of broth from them or will it not be that simple? I once tried to buy thai chilis from royal sichuan and they said no way as if i was trying to figure out their secret or something. lol

        1. re: neiladammcginnis

          I know you'll have no trouble at all buying just the broth used for their won-ton soup at First Chinese BBQ.
          Just tell the serving lady you want to order "soup broth" only for takeout. Tell her just how big a container(s) you want.
          I would also suggest you order a bowl of shrimp won-ton soup to eat there just so there will be no surprises. If you're alone, just have them package the leftovers to take home.
          You should enjoy their roast duck as well while you're there. It's the best you'll ever get.

          1. re: twinwillow

            sweet. will probably do that right before going to 99 ranch market on saturday then. Yea i don't mind having leftovers to take home, in fact i love that.

            1. re: neiladammcginnis

              I'm eager to hear what you have to say about your meal at First Chinese BBQ. Be sure you go to the original location at the N/E corner of Polk and Greenville Ave. in Richardson. Ask for Mae to serve you. Tell her you were referred by one of the men who eat lunch there every Thursday at the large round table. Enjoy!

        2. re: twinwillow

          Ok we went to First Chinese BBQ..
          First, the food was probably the best chinese food I have ever had.
          -Shredded pork and fried noodles was a random item a picked that I was disappointed once I saw all the noodles were crispy as it looked too heavy and greasy (don't ask me what i was expecting. lol) but after tasting the flavors were great.
          -Orange beef I saw at someones table and it looked good so I went for it. Very tasty and reminiscent of the chinese food I grew up with except much better.
          -Marinated pork was super juicy and the duck skin was perfectly thin and crispy.
          -You recommended shrimp wonton soup which was delicious and perfectly cooked although I imagine I would prefer pork dumplings. I also saw there was a duck wonton soup that sounded interesting but I did not try.
          -On the topic of getting broth, I was unable to. We spent 5 minutes trying to explain what we wanted until giving up. There is no possible way to explain anything to the waitress we had unless you spoke chinese. It seemed as if we had gotten the worst waitress in the building because I saw and spoke to others that seemed much better.
          **I had forgot my print out so I did not remember that you said to ask for Mae to serve me.. that would probably have helped. lol

          1. re: neiladammcginnis

            I'm very pleased that you had an (overall) excellent first experience at FCBBQ.

            Yes, next time, do ask for Mae.

            Also next time, say you want soup-no noodles-no won-ton. Just soup! It is possible!

            Btw, the shrimp won-tons contain both shrimp and minced pork. "Dumplings" are more of a Szechuan style dish. If you like that style, I heartily recommend you also try King Noodle across the street from FCBBQ. Their beef dumpling soup is just about the best in town.

            If you are available, I invite you to join us (5-7) men for lunch any Thursday at 1:00PM.

            We've been meeting there every Thursday for lunch for almost 25 years!

            1. re: twinwillow

              Thanks for the offer that is really cool. Of course living so far away I will not be able to make it for lunch unfortunately. I would love more suggestions on what i should order from there though because there are SO many options.
              We did have a great experience overall.
              That waitress couldn't even grasp the concept that we wanted one soup for here and one to go, that alone blew her mind. It was comical somewhat. The to go soup contains very little soup so that's why I did not order a bunch of them and trying to explain to her that I wanted more of it in a larger container proved impossible. I will be asking for Mae next time for sure. It seemed more like a cup of soup instead of the usual bowl size that i'm accustomed to which is fine just not what I was expecting.

              1. re: neiladammcginnis

                I've already told Mae to expect you. You need to tell her you want the LARGEST container of soup ONLY. I'll tell Mae what you want when I see her Thursday.

                I would have loved for you too join us but, I understand about the distance thing.

                We like both won-ton soup and chicken with sweet corn soup, clams in green onion sauce, fried pork chops, "football" tofu (only Mae will understand that), BBQ pork egg fu yung, shrimp with candied walnuts and broccoli, roast duck (dry, without sauce) trust me. Crispy oyster with ginger green onion sauce, beef with flat noodle, cheese shrimp, Hong Kong shrimp, and much more. Peruse the menu and ask Mae for descriptions. She understands English and speaks it well, too.

                1. re: twinwillow

                  Making me hungry. Must go back this weekend for sure.
                  I will be sure to print that list although I will remember most of those because it sounds very good. Crispy oyster sounds the best.
                  Thanks for the help I will certainly take the advice

                  1. re: neiladammcginnis

                    Crispy oysters w/ ginger green onion sauce: Noted. Remember, FCBBQ is a Cantonese style restaurant and thus does not serve the sort of "exotic" dishes you seem to enjoy. However, peruse the menus with scrutiny and ask Mae for suggestions based on your palate.

                    And as I mentioned previously, I think you might also enjoy King's Noodle (Taiwanese) across the street.
                    Note: You might be the only Caucasian in the restaurant. Always a good sign.

                    1. re: twinwillow

                      I guess I just like "exotic" dishes because I think i'm guaranteed a new food experience unlike anything I have had before. But the styles in which they prepare these dishes are new to me so I'm happy to experiment there. I'm already planning to drag my family there at my next birthday. I get much excitement in trying something new, especially when it ends up being delicious.
                      I also saved the King's Noodle to my google maps as well.
                      On a slightly related note I have never had russian food is the Russian Banya worth checking out for that? I have no intention of using the bathhouse aspect. lol

                      1. re: neiladammcginnis

                        I've never been to the Russian Banya. Sounds like fun, though. But, not the steam bath!

                    2. re: neiladammcginnis

                      I met my buddies for lunch today at FCBBQ but Mae had taken the day off so I could not tell her about you and your soup needs.
                      I did find out she is usually off on Friday and Sunday.

                      1. re: twinwillow

                        Well Saturday is usually when I go to Dallas so that works out well i think. From what you say she should be easy enough for me to communicate with so it probably won't be an issue this time.

                        1. re: twinwillow

                          I was unable to go to FCBBQ last weekend and this weekend I'm taking my wife to Austin to celebrate her birthday.
                          The weekend after that i am going, without a doubt. Just thought I would let you know in case you were asking Mae.

                          1. re: neiladammcginnis

                            I'll see her Thursday at lunch and I will inform her of your impending visit the weekend following this weekend.

                            1. re: twinwillow

                              I spoke to Mae today and she understands exactly what you want.

            2. Neil,

              I will have to scan through my mental notes on all the broth places and will get back to you.

              On the topic of bones and such you need for broth, I would assume your immediate area around Milford would have some small butcher/processing shops. I know due northwest of you is Grandview and I know Buugundy Pasture Beef is there. Might try inquiring about any extra bones they have. Also try some of the small towns around your area. The further south you go from your location the better the butchers will be, most of them of Czech or German heritage. I am sure there is a butcher in Waxahachie as well. Maybe a Mexican one, La Michoacana?

              You have it better than we do with access to veggies and meats out your way. We are dependant on a small farm/ranch bringing what they have to us.

     - Corsicana

     - Grandview - Jon or Wendy

     - Balch Springs - Ask for Marie


              Search is for Milford^^

              Two farms in Milford -

              Rafter D Ranch (Grass Fed Beef

              Abba Ranch

              Steakburger from the Johnson Ranch

              Also ask some of these ranchers/beef suppliers what they do with bones or left overs after processing. The more questions you ask the more likely they are to help you out get to your end goal. They might even know some places for broth that even we don't know about.

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              1. re: LewisvilleHounder

                Very useful information. There is a la michoacana in Ennis that I could hit up. As far as I'm aware there is nothing like that in Waxahachie, but I wish there was because I drive through there often.

                I just emailed inquiries to all those local places you suggested. Hopefully one of them works out.
                I see what you mean about having many small farms down here but the few I have talked to in the past aren't interested in selling to local public because there is no market down here. I'm the only person I know around here that actually cares about good food. Seems like everyone eats fast food every day here and are content with that sadly.

                1. re: neiladammcginnis

                  Nothing against you about trying to get their products but if I were said farmer, you were down the road and you could drive to me, I would sell you as much as you wanted. Odd business practice they have if they are only holding products for Dallas and not everyone including their closest neighbors.

                  Just a suggestion - Not sure a posting on would work in your area but you might try posting a contact sheet, flyer or business card at your local coffee shop/post office, which ever is busier. I am pretty sure some of those farmers and folks of an older generation would be more inclined to join you for a meal. I wouldn't necessarily dismiss your neighbors as many might not have the opportunity financially or know how to find you on the internet. I am sure there are others just like you in your area that seek out the best ingredients possible and others have them at their fingertips but limited culinary skill/research to expand their offerings.

              2. Never been to Russian Banya but ti has been on the radar for several years. The only thing holding me back is a gun store next to a Russian Banya....the whole Russian mafia could come into play with close proximity to weapons. Just a thought I have always had.

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                1. re: LewisvilleHounder

                  lol. Not sure there is enough Russians in Texas for that to be a concern but it's never a good sign when there is a gun store next door, usually that means you are in the 'ghetto'. The food looked weird but very unique on Bizarre Foods. The guy who started it got money from his kid who won it from a reality show.

                  1. re: LewisvilleHounder

                    The gun store is long gone, shut down over a year ago and now there is a speciality chocolate shop next to where it used to be.