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If you could change the restaurant/bar scene in SD. .

What would you do?

First of all, I would bring Piret's back!!
Huge honkin' (no reference to Herr Honk) Piret's..

I would make it mandatory for the Gaslamp to power wash their sidewalks every damn day!
I would limit the permits on burger joints.

I would expand on the trolley and transit system.
I would have more water taxi's service...served with some mussel bisque..hee hee

Every resto has to have a damn good Quinoa burger and other veggie alternatives.
More French bistros.

Happy hours would extend everyday.
Water fountains with SD finest craft beer..
; )

I would give huge tax incentives to the likes of Starlite, Café Chloe, Tender Greens, Super Sergio's, George's, Blue Ribbon.. to open up more locations.

I would make it a felony to use Ranch dressing on fish tacos in the greater SD area.

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  1. Well, that about sums it up.

    1. More French Bistros - FTW!

      1. Ranch dressing on fish tacos? Forget the felony; the punishment should be banishment to International Falls, Minnesota.

        1. I would move all my favorite places to East County.

          And bring back foie gras.

          Cheesecake Factory? CLOSED.

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          1. re: Dagney

            I would make more room for sidewalk seating, then create outdoor eating spaces like Cafe Calabria did.
            I would require by law all restaurants with a view of the water to serve outstanding food.

          2. OK, here's my fantasy change: I would reduce Convoy to two lanes with no median, put in broad sidewalks and lots of trees and other landscaping, and build a big free underground parking lot with free continuous back and forth shuttle service along the street. And change the name from Convoy to something that's not so atrocious.

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            1. re: DoctorChow

              Dude..
              I thought your fantasy change would be to wipe out Petco Park and the Gaslamp in one big ol' swoop..

              I bet your wearing your Padre shirt and SD ball cap backward looking over the Pads schedule now...hee hee

              1. re: Beach Chick

                Hmmm...now that you mention it...

                Naw, not wipe out Petco Park. Just pick the whole thing up and move it six blocks further east.

                The Gaslamp would then instantly transform into a utopian dining district, chock full of sophisticated, interesting restaurants.

                1. re: Beach Chick

                  Why not burn down San Diego and start from scratch ?

                  1. re: honkman

                    "Why not burn down San Diego and start from scratch?"

                    That's not a bad idea - it worked for Berlin.

                    [I'm really sorry, Honkman - but you threw a hanging curve.]

                    1. re: RB Hound

                      Why feel sorry - I was also thinking about Berlin

                    2. re: honkman

                      Just the fabric places.

                      1. re: cstr

                        Burn the Muslin Terrace down to the swatches too!

                        1. re: Beach Chick

                          ...and ban fedora hats while you're at it.

                  2. re: DoctorChow

                    Don't spoil a good thing, maybe a re-name to AsianTown.

                  3. How about some great seafood shacks, run by families that care, that serve up fresh stuff. Don't need any pinky finger in the air crap.

                    Some great Italian would be a nice surprise.

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                    1. re: cstr

                      Can I get a hallelujah for the seafood shacks like the ones in Maine...what I wouldn't do for a bucket of clams with the belly's, lobster roll and a cold Allagash right about now!

                      About that pinky finger..you still wearing that gold nugget jewelry on your pinky's with the matching nugget encrusted choker necklace and bracelet.
                      Goes well with the Gold Lame Members Only Jacket..

                      1. re: Beach Chick

                        Lame Members... how unsavoury!

                        1. re: Beach Chick

                          @BC: Hear hear (vis-à-vis the seafood shacks in Maine, not the pinky thingies)

                          1. re: Beach Chick

                            All that gold goes well with my polyester leisure suit!

                            1. re: cstr

                              Here you go Sledge. .

                              www.membersonlyoriginal.com/collectio...

                          2. re: cstr

                            I remember when I first moved here thinking that coastal San Diego would be like I'd experienced along the coast north of Boston, with tons of creaky no-frills family-run seafood shacks up and down, and I was really really disappointed, disillusioned, saddened and shocked when I wasn't able to find a single one. I understand the economic realities and yada yada, but that sucks (pardon my French). Yeah, that would be a terrific change in the food scene here.

                          3. Better dining clientele.

                            1. I'd like to see...

                              * more outside dining options

                              * more interesting/creative menu options, i.e. does everyone need a short rib entree, salmon du jour, safe pasta plate, or Berkshire pork cop? If you dine out frequently enough, or look through local menus they tend to have a numbing sameness. I understand the dynamic, restaurants have to stay in business, therefore they sell what people will order, I just wish we could having something other than the same old/same old

                              * I love a good burger, but do we need to be the burger capital of the United States? I think not.

                              * ditto for taquerias. Could we please have a place or two that does "real" Mexican? Squash blossoms, pozoles, pipianes, alta cocina D.F. style?

                              * San Diego has some great local produce, could we have dedicated tasting menus of local produce a la Charlie Trotter (meaning they aren't necessarily vegetarian, but prepared in ways that highlight how good they can be)

                              * I wish we could have the variety of Baja wines that are being produced without having to go south or mortgage the house.

                              * I wish the East County (i.e. anything east of SDSU) had something other than chain dining

                              * I wish I didn't have to go to south county to get a decent jugo or licuado

                              * I wish some of our taquerias served good sopes and/or gorditas

                              * I wish someone would open up a good, centrally located, pie shop

                              * I'd like for the wait staff not to refer to the table as "you guys"

                              * I'd like fellow diners not to bring small children to adult restaurants after 8 pm, they tend to be cranky and disruptive and put the restaurant in the awkward (and unfair) position of having to manage a customers' poor choice.

                              * I wish restaurants would realize that excessive noise does not equal trendy or pleasant dining.

                              * I wish the Allied Gardens/Del Cerro/San Carlos area had 2 or 3 solid places to go for dinner. Del Cerro has nothing (KnB doesn't count), Allied Gardens has the dreadful Brothers and San Carlos has The Trails, Nicolosi's and McCarters which is also pretty dreadful. Comeon, suburbia needs some decent places to eat too...help!

                              * I wish some restaurants had easier/better parking

                              * I wish SD had some place like LA's Lemonade or SF's Bi-Rite

                              * I wish the prices at the local farmers markets were a little bit lower so I could shop them every week instead of every other week.

                              * I'm kind of on the same page with everyone else on seafood places, but maybe not the seafood shack genre. I'd like to see something like Erizo, or more casual fish dining. Maybe a palapa-style place where you can go, suck down some clams, oysters, shrimp cocktails, order a whole fish grilled or roasted in a choice of various preparations and spend the entire afternoon with family or friends eating, drinking beer and generally having a relaxing good time.

                              * I'd like to see the Marine Room get a face life and modernization. It's the best ocean view, but it's tired and it's age is showing, from the furnishings to the menu. I'd also like them to bring back brunch. I'm not normally a big brunch person, but I always like the one there.

                              * I wish parking was easier in La Jolla and I'd trek out to dine there more frequently

                              I'm sure there's more, just give me some time ;-)

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                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                You don't wish for much, DD. ;-)

                                I'll have to re-read your bullet points a few times to absorb!

                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                  "more outside dining options"
                                  ...Absolutely agree.

                                  ---

                                  "I love a good burger, but do we need to be the burger capital of the United States? I think not."

                                  ...No, we don't, and I hope that's not how people in the rest of the US think of us.

                                  ---

                                  "ditto for taquerias. Could we please have a place or two that does "real" Mexican? Squash blossoms, pozoles, pipianes, alta cocina D.F. style?"

                                  ...There used to be a place on Garnet, by the church, that had real Mex. City food. Slow service, great food. Long gone.

                                  -------

                                  "I wish we could have the variety of Baja wines that are being produced without having to go south or mortgage the house."

                                  ...Me too, and so does a close friend of mine who was trying to establish a Baja wine tasting, wine tour, and import business. It's just not economical for the vinyards.

                                  -----

                                  "I wish someone would open up a good, centrally located, pie shop"

                                  ..There used to be a Marie Calendars near me on Balboa. Yeah, yeah, I know. But I liked it a lot. They closed and eventually tore it down.

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                                  "I'd like for the wait staff not to refer to the table as "you guys"

                                  ...Where I live there are a lot of kids, ages 6 - 12. Their parents yell at them all (girls and boys) as "guys". And that's what they call each other: "You guys". Times and meanings have changed...

                                  -------

                                  "I'd like fellow diners not to bring small children to adult restaurants after 8 pm, they tend to be cranky and disruptive and put the restaurant in the awkward (and unfair) position of having to manage a customers' poor choice."

                                  ...YES!!! Sheese, what are these people thinking when they bring their screaming kidlets into a restaurant?? Completely destroys the pleasure of dining.

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                                  "I wish restaurants would realize that excessive noise does not equal trendy or pleasant dining."

                                  ...Totally agree. And with my screwed up hearing, all the worse. I do tolerate the places that have exceptional food, though, like Cucina Urbana, but would really prefer a little more acoustic conditioning.

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                                  "I wish some restaurants had easier/better parking"

                                  ...No shishkabob. That was part of my fantasy about Convoy St.

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                                  "I'm kind of on the same page with everyone else on seafood places, but maybe not the seafood shack genre."

                                  ...I think cities/towns with an abundance of seafood shacks near the water create a way of life, one that I'd love to be able to live here.

                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                    Ding, Ding, Ding! Dining Diva for SD Mayor of Dining.

                                    Only thing I disagree with...parking is EZ in LJ. The problem is nobody wants to pay 3-5 bucks to park in a lot.

                                    1. re: foodiechick

                                      Or get their car stuck in a garage with no attendant and a broken ticken/credit card machine. That's happened to me a number of times in La Jolla.

                                    2. re: DiningDiva

                                      Just one thing I want to point out: if a restaurant has excessive noise, then bringing kids after 8 PM isn't an issue. :)

                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                        SOLID. .

                                        There's a new Mayor in town and it's DD!

                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                          You forgot one.

                                          * Discover cure for cancer.

                                          There, now your list is complete.

                                        2. I want the original Whaling Bar at La Valencia back, with Gregory Peck sending over a Shirley Temple drink to celebrate my birthday, which is today.

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                                          1. re: Gypsy Jan

                                            Happy B-Day GJ, enjoy!

                                            1. re: cstr

                                              Thank You! Brunch at Slash/1 tiommorow - Fried oysers, Clams Casino and...othther yumms.

                                              There might be some champagne, but sadly, no uni or ikura.

                                              1. re: Gypsy Jan

                                                Clams Casino!

                                                Made some at home last night from Chocolate Clams (they're not chocolate, just colored that way).