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Eating pizza or burger w/ knife and fork

How many people eat pizza or burgers with a knife and fork and what does it say about them?
Seems to me a little pretentious to eat pizza with a knife and fork.

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  1. I say it's just how they were raised and it's no skin off your ass if they use utensils.

    the better question is: what it does it say about you to even notice or give a shit?

    we can surely find better things to worry about and I can push this one to such a point of absurdity I can earn a REALLY hard smackdown.

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    1. re: hill food

      Remember that episode of seinfeld where george starts eating his candy bars on a plate with a knife and fork???

      ETA:
      Grampart beat me to it....

    2. You may not realize this but people do judge us on our manners. Poor table manners are something that other people are usually repulsed by and unfortunately people judge harshly. I have eaten pizza and burgers many times utilizing flatware in lieu of my hands. I do so because I find it neater in many cases for me to do so. Have you noticed how huge the *mega food* is that is served in many pizza and burger venues? I can not say that I actually spear the burger onto the fork but I have had to cut it into pieces that I am able to manage and then eat the small pieces. Nothing pretentious about eating efficiently.

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      1. re: MamasCooking

        "Nothing pretentious about eating efficiently."

        Using a knife and fork is actually less efficient, and when it is done to force the judgments of others, it's pretty pretentious.

        As to those who "do judge us on our manners", I reiterate my response to the OP. After all, the world spins. Fashions change. I mean, now, we even let women express opinions on the issues of the day.

        1. re: MGZ

          <As to those who "do judge us on our manners">

          Why were manners developed?
          I put myself out there with good manners, opposed to the schmuck who uses caveman manners in front of others and couldn't care less about the once/week shower he/she takes and how bad they smell to others.
          Yes, the world spins, and we all have to live with each other…sometimes closer than we'd like. I'd rather be next to a person who takes the time to make sure they're not smacking their food and licking their dirty fingers than the one who's cutting up their food with a knife and fork. At least they're thoughtful. Nothing wrong with that.

          1. re: latindancer

            So, you're saying Aunt Sally needs a bath?

            1. re: latindancer

              Manners were developed to differentiate us from the lower classes, dear.

              If you remembered your courses on manners, you would remember not to throw the bones across the table at the dogs, but merely drop them at your side.

              Believe I've read more about the subject than you have, and I do believe that manners are inherently undemocratic.

            2. re: MGZ

              There is also the point that if you haven't had a chance to wash your hands and you have been riding the public subway all day hanging onto bars and straps, you might prefer not to touch your food.

              1. re: Querencia

                I wouldn't want to eat a meal with utensils in that case, either. I carry wet wipes if I can't easily wash up in a rest room.

                1. re: mcf

                  Truth be told mcf, you wouldn't be eating a bun-laden burger or a slice of pizza anyway. Ammaraight? ;)

                  1. re: lynnlato

                    In the old days in England the Cornish Pasty was invented for tin miners as a way to take their lunch down the mine. The pasty is meat, potatoes and vegetables encased in pastry. The pastry is pulled up over the meat and sealed with a single, quite thick, rolled edge across the top.

                    You traditionally ate the pasty by holding the rolled edge, and then throw it away when finished - no need to wash your hands. The original handheld portable lunch (predating sandwiches etc by many years).

                    1. re: PhilD

                      The no doubt apochryphal addition to the pasty story is that one end was savoury, while the other was sweet, with a pastry divider.

                      1. re: PhilD

                        You don't throw it away--you toss it over your shoulder to feed the tommyknockers. If they get hungry, they get cranky, and you might bump your head or lose your tools.

                      2. re: lynnlato

                        I said that upthread, I don't eat the bun. I do eat the topping off of pizza.

                        If I ever find out I'm terminal, I'll eat a slice with the crust. Then an everything bagel chaser before I croak. :-)

                        1. re: mcf

                          Ha! I'm with you... if I'm terminal, I don't want sweets, bring me pizza please.

                          my kids eat pizza on occasion and it's the lovely large-sliced NY style and I actually drool when I see and smell it. That crust is evil but so damned delicious.

                          1. re: lynnlato

                            I will occasionally break off one bite of a bubbly, crust, especially if it has sesame seeds on it, or a cornmeal crisped bottom. But just one.

                            It's been so many years, I can't recall the last tiem I ate a slice with the crust.

                            I never crave them or drool when others eat them around me any more, but if I think about it, it amazes me, because no one ever loved that first hot, melty bite of pizza more than I!

                            1. re: mcf

                              "I never crave them or drool when others eat them around me any more, but if I think about it, it amazes me, because no one ever loved that first hot, melty bite of pizza more than I!"

                              That is truly impressive. My kids ate pizza last night. There were two pieces left over and everyone was off doing their thang and I was alone with them. I couldn't resist a bite... and then I was angry that I gave in. Ha! I threw the rest in the garbage.

                    2. re: Querencia

                      OK, if there's no bathroom to wash up, otherwise, I always wash up, pizza or whatever.
                      Who would eat without washing up?

                2. my goal is to get the food to my mouth. and to try to avoid spilling it onto my clothes. that has very little to do with being pretentious. mostly, it has to do with being hungry. and, with any luck, stain free.
                  so....if a knife and fork will help accomplish the task....then that's what i do.

                  1. Seems to me that often when we see problems outside of ourselves, we should take some time to look inside of ourselves.

                    1. Apizza>by hand,
                      Burger>knife and fork, BUT I don't eat the bun. It would be tacky and greasy to pick uo the burger patty in my hand

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                      1. re: bagelman01

                        People do eat wings without using a knife and fork, so I guess tackiness varies...

                        1. re: Chowrin

                          wings are only tacky when prepared with a sauce........................