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frustrated search for baking pan

rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 08:53 AM

my 9 x 13 ceramic rectangular baking pan broke the other day and i am having a heck of a time finding a replacement. can anyone offer a suggestion?
must be:
red, white, or natural color
stoneware
under $60 ($30 would be great, $50 + shipping if it's the right pan)
not made in china!!! (france, portugal, america, canada, etc. all ok)
9x13
rectangular

i am searching ebay, etsy, provisions from food 52, and amazon. so far i've found a french emile henry (price tag = ouch!), and le creuset (still pricey). i've found very little vintage (mostly enamel and still expensive). most of these things are made in china now and i am trying very hard not to buy from china. i have also looked in home goods (but will keep trying there as their product shifts frequently). thanks for any leads: i just never thought this would be so difficult!!!!

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  1. Locutus RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 09:04 AM

    http://www.williams-sonoma.com/produc...

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      foodieX2 RE: Locutus Mar 22, 2014 09:10 AM

      I was going to suggest Staub as well but I believe all their ceramics are now made in china.

      ETA- just checked the WS link and indeed they are are

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        rmarisco RE: foodieX2 Mar 22, 2014 09:15 AM

        see..... exactly what i'm talking about.

        when did this get so difficult????
        the pan i broke i've had for about 5-10 years and i THOUGHT that was a french brand but, no, after i broke it i looked at the bottom and it, too, was made in china!

        BTW i love my staub ECI dutch oven!

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          foodieX2 RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 09:20 AM

          Maybe try Etsy? I bet you can find someone to make you one.

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            rmarisco RE: foodieX2 Mar 22, 2014 09:22 AM

            yes - i was hoping. etsy is mentioned in my original post.

            unfortunately, i COULD find someone to make it.. but not in my price range. the price range seems to be the final blow - i could find several from france, but they are all pricey in that size

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            c oliver RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 09:24 AM

            Are you assuming all things made in China are poor quality? Cause that's just not so.

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              Candy RE: c oliver Mar 23, 2014 11:16 AM

              I agree. Sometimes if you don't want something made in China you are going to have to do without. Especially true with small electrics, appliances.

              The only problem I have with "Made in China" is china (bone, fine, porcelain etc.) When Lenox first out sourced to China, some of their decorative items I received a shipment. It just looked not quite right. It bothered me, I finally noticed it was the eyes on one piece. I ordered 4 soup plates from Spode in the Christmas Tree pattern for my own use. When it arrived there was something not right about it. I looked on the back and it said Made in China and back it went. What is odd is that the Christmas Tree pattern is a decal so it really should not matter. In the Lenox pieces some of them had to be hand decorated.

              Like C. Oliver, I find many things made in China to be beautiful and well made.

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                c oliver RE: Candy Mar 23, 2014 11:18 AM

                Bob worked for a major apparel company who was having things made in China. This was over 20 years ago. Their standards for both the product and the working conditions were TOE (Terms of Engagement) and were quite strict.

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                gfr1111 RE: c oliver Mar 23, 2014 12:47 PM

                C Oliver,

                All I have to say is: baby formula, the paint on toys, pet food, drywall that emits poison gas and disintegrates, prescription drugs, etc. All of these have been put into the marketplace by Chinese companies. All of them have had serious quality problems which resulted in harm to the consumer.

                Now, despite this, I buy Chinese stuff because I can't avoid it. Their goods are ubiquitous and their inexpensive prices have driven competitors who make higher quality goods out of the market. This is sad, but sometimes I have no choice but to buy the crappy Chinese stuff. And certainly, some of the Chinese stuff is good. If you have a country with 1.3 billion people, it is bound to produce some quality items. BUT OBVIOUSLY, based on China's track record, quality control is a joke in China.

                Until China can get its act together, give me French, Japanese, Germany, British, Thai, Taiwanese, and American, etc. products any day. I'll pay more--much more.

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                  rmarisco RE: gfr1111 Mar 23, 2014 08:43 PM

                  i think that about covers it. thank you for saying it well, gfr111.

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                    c oliver RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 08:48 PM

                    To each his/her own. I'd just rather not see anything painted with such a broad brush.

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                    Jerseygirl111 RE: gfr1111 Mar 30, 2014 03:02 PM

                    Not many people have problems with iphones or ipads.

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                  CaliforniaJoseph RE: rmarisco Mar 24, 2014 09:12 AM

                  You loved what you had from China before but now you wouldn't replace with the same?

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                    rmarisco RE: CaliforniaJoseph Mar 25, 2014 08:14 PM

                    um.. did i say i loved it? i owned it, and used it, but, it broke so now i have to replace it. in doing so, i'd prefer to get something nicer

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                      c oliver RE: rmarisco Mar 25, 2014 08:18 PM

                      Did it break on its own or was it dropped or something? How do you define "nicer"? More expensive? I just ask because my criteria are based on usage. Plain and simple.

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                        CaliforniaJoseph RE: rmarisco Mar 25, 2014 11:43 PM

                        Um, my mistake. Curious about your contra-Sino standards I guess.

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                          ChillyDog RE: CaliforniaJoseph Mar 26, 2014 04:48 PM

                          Did you see Gfr1111's post a few above? I thought that covered it.

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                souvenir RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 09:22 AM

                This one caught my eye because it was made in Portugal. Not exactly 9x13, but the large version is close:

                http://www.crateandbarrel.com/kitchen...

                No handles, but the sides are 3 inches high.

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                  rmarisco RE: souvenir Mar 22, 2014 09:25 AM

                  genius! thank you souvenir!

                  now i feel silly: i pass crate and barrel on the way to work all the time... never thought to go check out their kitchenware. i also see a natural terracotta on the site that i will look for as well.

                  my search is over!~

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                    souvenir RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 09:51 AM

                    You are very welcome! Glad I remembered seeing it.

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                  rasputina RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 11:22 AM

                  Emile Henry
                  Pillivuyt
                  Fiestaware
                  Le Creuset

                  They all make ceramic pans in that size

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                    FlyerFan RE: rasputina Mar 22, 2014 12:20 PM

                    Fiestaware was going to be my suggestion. Great bakeware and made in the USA.

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                      rmarisco RE: FlyerFan Mar 23, 2014 08:44 PM

                      i will check on the fiestaware.
                      all the others were beyond the price range i mentioned for that size pan...

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                    masha RE: rmarisco Mar 22, 2014 01:02 PM

                    Sur la table carries a lot of ceramic bakeware and virtually none of it is made in China. I just went on their website and specifically noted the following, made in Italy and on special for 11.99. It is 12x8-1/2 so slightly smaller than the one you want to replace.

                    http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO...

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                      masha RE: masha Mar 23, 2014 12:49 PM

                      In reading the customer reviews on this product, I realize that it seems awfully prone to cracking. Bit if you search on the SLT site you will find a number of other ceramic baking dishes

                    2. Sid Post RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 11:37 AM

                      HIC Porcelain is working well for me and has a good price when you 'deal spot' on Amazon.

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                        ellabee RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 12:20 PM

                        Not stoneware, but IMO better than stoneware because of its ability to withstand temperature changes (really will go freezer to oven without breaking): CorningWare (the original Pyroceram, not the stoneware now being sold under the name CorningWare).

                        The A-21-BN is available in white (without the retro patterns): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Corni...

                        There's also the slightly shallower 9x13 A-21, not as easily found in plain white, but they're out there.

                        Generally these go between $20 and $30, and should last a looooong time.

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                          rmarisco RE: ellabee Mar 23, 2014 08:46 PM

                          i have some vintage corning ware pans, not the size i'm looking for though. i find them to be a bit shallow, so didn't even consider them.. i checked out the ebay listing - too big, but thank you! i will look further on ebay

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                          cutipie721 RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 01:18 PM

                          http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_0...

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                            happybaker RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 08:48 PM

                            Just wondering - why not pyrex?

                            Or anchor hocking baking pans?

                            Just a wondering...

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                              masha RE: happybaker Mar 24, 2014 08:51 AM

                              OP can address this in terms of his/her own needs but they are not flameproof, so you should not use them for something that starts on the stovetop or gets finished under the broiler.

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                                rmarisco RE: masha Mar 25, 2014 08:16 PM

                                have a pyrex - want something a little more showy, plus i just don't like using it for some reason... prefer the ceramic.

                                plus, my pyrex has slightly more sloped sides and rounded corners than i like: the one that broke was a bit deeper and had less of a slope on the walls.

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                                Jerseygirl111 RE: happybaker Mar 30, 2014 03:04 PM

                                Just fyi, there are those pesky issues with shattering. There are a couple threads on here about exploding pyrex.

                              3. daislander RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 10:49 PM

                                HomeSense or Winners. Changes weekly. They have a lot of glazed terracotta in right now. To brittle for me. Also just got in some nice porcelain and Spode 9x13's. Every store is different tho.

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                                  rmarisco RE: daislander Mar 25, 2014 08:17 PM

                                  i've never seen winners. was just at home goods but i don't think we have homeSense in my area. thanks though!

                                2. daislander RE: rmarisco Mar 23, 2014 10:51 PM

                                  Ive been on the look out for a 9x13 or bigger glass or such but deeeep like 6-7 inch dish for years now. (in case anyone spots one!?..) always metal... or not quite deep enough

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                                    c oliver RE: daislander Mar 24, 2014 08:48 AM

                                    I'm curious what you would use that for please.

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                                      daislander RE: c oliver Mar 25, 2014 10:12 PM

                                      I made really thick lasagne and pasticho. Both have a layer of béchamel on the top. This bakes on like crazy (and cheese of course) and I like to be able to scrub my dish with steel wool and not mark it. Also like it not to bubble over in the oven which mine always just seem to do.

                                      There lots of nice pans but lots have deep scalloped edges with make it not as deep as it would seem. and always not quite deep like the metal pans you can get. I also prefer a dish I can take to a potluck etc.

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                                        c oliver RE: daislander Mar 26, 2014 05:18 PM

                                        I wasn't clear or being critical at all. Just wondered what you'd bake in something that deep. And you answered :) Thanks.

                                  2. Antilope RE: rmarisco Mar 24, 2014 08:54 AM

                                    Amazon open box dept - Warehouse Deals

                                    http://www.amazon.com/HIC-Ceramic-13-...

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                                      rmarisco RE: Antilope Mar 25, 2014 08:23 PM

                                      any idea where these are made? can't seem to find any info

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                                      laraffinee RE: rmarisco Mar 30, 2014 12:09 PM

                                      Sierra Trading Post has some nice Apilco on sale - if you have one of their 35% off coupons - it 's a steal. I just picked up some soufflé dishes today. They have a rectangular baking that seems just like what you are looking for:

                                      http://www.sierratradingpost.com/apil...

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                                        rmarisco RE: laraffinee Mar 31, 2014 09:30 AM

                                        i really like apilco, and they do look just perfect.. except for the sizes.

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                                        foiegras RE: rmarisco Mar 31, 2014 08:26 PM

                                        Maybe your budget needs to be adjusted? It costs more to make stuff in the first world.

                                        I have found some good cookware at the thrift store before, but I don't think that's the answer because what you want is so very specific. I think the answer is to save up a bit more.

                                        I pay your budget and more for vintage refrigerator dishes all the time (and they are smaller than 9x13).

                                        1. Chocolatechipkt RE: rmarisco Apr 1, 2014 07:05 AM

                                          What about something like this?

                                          http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO...

                                          1. DuffyH RE: rmarisco Apr 1, 2014 08:46 PM

                                            Hi rmarisco,

                                            I found the Emile Henry pan for $42 on Amazon Warehouse, but it's in Figue (fig or purple to you and me). Not one of your colors, but the price rocks. If you've got Prime, it'll ship for free.

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                                              Muddirtt RE: rmarisco Apr 2, 2014 10:07 PM

                                              I realize that I'm disregarding a few of your wants for a baking pan but these two from Lodge are on my wish list:

                                              12 x 15 inch Jumbo Chef's Platter:
                                              http://www.lodgemfg.com/seasoned-cast...

                                              14 inch round baking pan:
                                              http://www.lodgemfg.com/seasoned-cast...

                                              For a deeper dish baking cookware, I'd use a 8 - 17 inch cast iron skillet.

                                              Have you ever considered cast iron? Sorry if I went way off subject from your post.

                                              I've never done it before but cast iron seems perfect for baking dessert goodies since you usually coat the pan with butter or oil or shortening prior.

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