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Mar 22, 2014 08:28 AM

Alsatian resto's with deep wine list

Any advice from Alsatian locals regarding restaurants with extensive wine lists? I am especially looking for older Riesling and Gewurz vintages, SGNs VTs.
Not interested in Mich 2 and 3 stars just good cooking and great wine lists. Any advice is much appreciated as always.

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  1. I wonder if any non-michelin stared places will have big lists with old wines. My memory of Alsace was of great small local restaurants serving simple local food but with modest lists. Then the grand old multi-starred dames like Auberge de I'Ill with large extensive lists with old local wines (they are the ones that can afford the cellarage and have diners who can afford the older wines).

    One way if accessing old vintages may be via the wineries cellar doors, some of which IIRC sell museum releases - Hugel springs to mind and I see they have '88's on their web site. Maybe you can find a simple restaurant that will do BYO.

    1. Thanks PhilD, I like the BYO idea...I've eaten throughout EU and occasionally I'll stumble on a non-Mich. that has a deep wine list. Just looking for the same in Alsace. Like a winstub that just happens to have a great old cellar...My issue is we are traveling with a 5 year old so Auberge is out...unless you know of a trustworthy sitter !

      1. Restaurant De la Gare in Guewenheim is very well known for its wine list. I haven’t been there, so I can’t vouch for the quality of food, but the wine list is the reason a lot of people go there.
        Personally, I really like Taverne Alsacienne in Ingersheim, near Colmar. It has much smaller wine list by comparison, but a nice selection of rieslings. Not really fancy, but great local food: http://www.tavernealsacienne-familleg... .

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        1. re: Bigos

          What a wonderful list, thanks
          Both vast selection and pricing way more than fair.

          1. re: Delucacheesemonger

            It does look very good doesn't it - I found some good reviews of the wine list on some wine sites - although the focus seemed not to be Alsace wines. Did you find their list on line?

              1. re: Delucacheesemonger

                Sorry meant the Restaurant De La Gare which is reputed to have an even better list - renowned for both its breadth and friendly prices.

                1. re: PhilD

                  Also sorry, found nothing for RDL Gare

          2. re: Bigos

            Oh my goodness, what a menu! I could stay there for a week to go through their menus - both food and wine. :D

          3. Bigos, thanks. I was looking at Taverne Alsacienne but La Gare is new to me. Michelin boasts it has one the the best wine lists in the country! Praise indeed. Thanks

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            1. re: Compleat Eater

              @ ChefJune,

              It looks like a wonderful menu except for the "Parmesan risotto" served with the fish.

              When will the French learn that risotto is not served as a side dish or in place of a vegetable?

              1. re: allende

                In fact that cheese and fish don't work at all together...except lobster thermidor but then again that's not a fish

                1. re: Compleat Eater

                  heheheh I so agree about cheese and fish!

                  1. re: ChefJune

                    @ Compleat Eater and ChefJune

                    Didn't want to mention the cheese and fish problem because I once mentioned it on this board and was attacked from all sides.

                    Here in Italy, as you both so well said, cheese and fish are almost never seen together.

                    1. re: allende

                      Its the same with Bacon...seems we can put it on anything and justify it. Don't get me wrong I love cheese a bacon but there are certain things that don't need and shouldn't be smothered by either (or even worse both)..unless of course you don't want to taste the food product that was smothered

                    2. re: ChefJune

                      You have obviously never had a really good British fish pie - a little cheese in the sauce can be very good (but never too much).

                      1. re: PhilD

                        You've got a point PhilD. Having grown up in London i do like a good fish pie....with cheese. OK, that's 1 exception...I know there are 2 or 3 others but I'm not saying....

                  2. re: allende

                    Isn't Risotto alla milanese the traditional accompaniment to Ossobuco?

                    1. re: PhilD

                      It is. But what does that have to do with cheese and fish?

                      1. re: ChefJune

                        Nothing, as it was a reply to this statement from Allende: "When will the French learn that risotto is not served as a side dish or in place of a vegetable?"

                        1. re: PhilD

                          PhilD and ChefJune,

                          With all due respect to you, risotto alla milanese is not the "traditional" accompaniment to ossobuco. There are many ways to serve osso buco. Alla Milanese is but one. There is no one "traditional way."

                          Risotto, in Italy, is almost never served as an accompaniment. It is a separate course, served by itself.

                          1. re: allende

                            But that means it is still served sometimes as an accompaniment.....not always but sometimes.

                            1. re: PhilD

                              I know Allende from other boards I know his expertise regarding Italian food is very high and his veracity notable. :) Lets move on. As OP, I'd like to hear about Alsatian restaurants....Just received Pudlo's book in the mail...English translation of his 2008-9 Alsace book. Any opinion on Pudlo. Upon a quick scan i already like him better than Mich.

                              1. re: Compleat Eater

                                I like his blog for its ample photos of the meal described in the text, which I find quite helpful for figuring out the style and ambition of the restaurant being reviewed (a lot of other French restaurant reviews are accompanied only by a [management-provided] pic of the empty resto). The blog also very generous with its old/ new/ regional content, to the point that I've never felt the need to buy his books (I'm fine to read in French). Do try it out - there's probably more updated info on Alsace than what's in your 2008/ 9 book.

                                On the minus side, you will need to be calibrate your expectations against the fact that these are not anonymous reviews - Pudlo himself is very recognizable in France and is identified as and treated like a celebrity in many restaurants he reviews. I also find he skews conservative in the style of place he tends to review eg. in Paris, lots of coverage of the 8th and 16th, rarer to find coverage of the 11th and 12th.

                                1. re: shakti2

                                  I use Pudlo's blog for practical information and maps.
                                  The reviews should not be taken too seriously since the reviewer is never anonymous.