HOME > Chowhound > Site Talk >

Discussion

The problem with Chowhound

LOCKED DISCUSSION

When I ask a question on CH , the local "experts" always say read the previous posts first. Although the other posts have different restrictions on their posts. CHers should just answer the questions being asked and leave their egos at he door.

Also, dont waste my time telling me to read every past posts on a city, just summarize it or me.

  1. Believe it or not people who post here don't work for you- they are volunteers who love sharing knowledge.

    Consider that you do have the option of starting your own forum with like minded people.

    3 Replies
    1. re: Sam Salmon

      If you need parameters, you dont know your area.

      1. re: albatruffles

        There's a current thread on the SF board where someone is coming in and wants really great Chinese food. I believe the poster has gotten FOUR replies and those suggest that he read some threads, narrow down his search and come back with specific questions. If you need parameters, I consider that you actually MAY know your area.

        1. re: c oliver

          yeah Chinese in SF is a good basis to illustrate the question, OK, so is it Hunan, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tawan, Fujian, Hainan, Peking, Szechwan, Guangdong? the foods of Chinese expats in areas that have long had Chinese influence like oh, most of coastal Asia? and that's not even including disputed areas like Tibet or Mongolia.

    2. Summarize? 140 characters or less, I presume ?

      1 Reply
      1. When people tell you about the wealth of information already here about your topic, they're offering you a pointer to a valuable resource.

        They've already had or read the discussions and it's generous of them to make the effort to direct you to it.

        1. Look, Waleed, I am nothin' but a loyal, thoughtful, and over-educated 'hound. I dig this Site, what it does, who does it (on all levels), and what it provides. I offered an arguably rough, albeit perfectly contemplated, response to your OP (which, in retrospect, was, probably, rightfully deleted, given the stir it caused). So, with the benefit of the doubt, I hereby offer to rewrite your inquiry in a way that does not seem like it came from a blogger who has been constipated for the past three-plus years, OK?

          "When I come to Chowhound to ask a question, it seems like many of the local "experts" on any given Board, always post links to previous discussions on a similar topic. I have found that the other threads usually have different restrictions contained within, with regard to the question asked. I think, inn the future, it would help those asking specific issues if the other 'hounds would just provide answers the particular questions being asked. It's not to say that the links are not usually helpful. It's just that sometimes, I feel like there is a lot of "ego" being introduced.

          "Also, I admit, that given my circumstances, I will find it difficult to find the time to read every past post on a subject in any given city. I know there is a lot of really useful information "out there", but it's often hard to figure out where to look on long threads whose links are posted. I know it's too much to ask that you just actually summarize it all for me, but, if I ask something with some specificity, it might be nice if you explain the link you're providing, or, maybe, a bullet point or two? Moreover, I'm open to answering any clarifying questions, but there are times when I feel like you have sorta abandoned the reason you contribute to the local Boards."

          I invite you to "flag" your OP, ask for its deletion, and feel free to take the the foregoing, in spirit, totality, or modified into your own words, and start over. Otherwise, you are simply reinforcing the notion that I was right with my initial, deliberately thought out, wrestled-with written response. You should know, if you don't, I do little (besides drink) without contemplation.

          1 Reply
          1. re: MGZ

            Your normally like a duck with well oiled feathers counselor. What happened? :-)

          2. "CHers should just answer the questions being asked and leave their egos at he door. "

            There's something to this point. Most threads have far more heat than light. Reading through all the crap to find the nugget can be tiresome. Just answering the question is not an unreasonable request.

            Could've been asked more nicely though.

            1 Reply
            1. "Also, dont waste my time telling me to read every past posts on a city, just summarize it or me."

              Sheesh, how can anyone refuse your request since you worded it so kindly?

              6 Replies
              1. re: grampart

                The must visits in any city should be a given. It should be the first thing that appears when i go to a city board. And when i ask a question about must visits I'm constantly met with stupidity.

                  1. re: albatruffles

                    "The must visits in any city should be a given...should be the first thing that appears":

                    and this fits into say LA or NYC how? do you have a year or a day? is budget an issue? sorry to request these unreasonably burdensome parameters, so just do us all a favor and never leave the airport eating at Sbarro's and Sushi Boy. you'll save yourself the annoyance of a cab ride.

                    1. re: hill food

                      Same applies in Chicago, my home board. Inquiries like the OP's are invariably greeted with a request for more specific information, including budget and type of cuisine.

                      1. re: masha

                        But many times these questions include things like, "anything between a 3 star michelin, to a bistro, to a greasy spoon to a food truck" And again how hard is it to toss out a few favorites without the condescending - '"

                        we need more information, and until you provide it you are not worthy of my time, but this rude reply offering nothing useful other then telling you google is your friend, and come back when you have properly researched ~ is worth my time"

                        1. re: Bellachefa

                          The variant that you posit at least helps us understand that the OP has a very broad taste and budget. Even then, it's nice to get an inquiry that reflects that the OP has done his/her homework. E.g., indicates that he/ she plans to do one high end 3 star resto and would like opinions, as between resto A and B, which is better.

                1. hey man, just be happy someone at least responded! take a look thru some of the sleepier regional boards like "mountain states" which now my home board. there are plenty of questions that just simply go unanswered.

                  1. I took a minute to read a few of the threads you posted and on several of them you got some very good responses.

                    Suggesting that someone read past posts is hardly a waste of time---many people (including myself) find it helpful to see the names of places that come up often and who is asking/recommending these places. Often, new posters will simple ask for "the best" or "can't miss" places, which, in a large city like NYC or LA, can be a very hard question to answer.

                    Posting nothing but links to past threads does come across as a bit rude... I include some context in those that I post links to, such as whether the posts are recent, have a particular piece of info that's relevant, or maybe just because they are generally informative.

                    If you see these as problems, well, I don't know what to tell you.

                    4 Replies
                    1. re: iluvcookies

                      iluv~
                      I posted a link to someone yesterday. nothing more just the link because it would be all they need. I was helping somebody out that had a question and they needed nothing more than the link. if there is a little something to add/explain I do that too.
                      greygarious recently posted a link for me nothing else needed. > I could easily go from there.

                      1. re: iL Divo

                        Don't even wade in here, you are too nice of a person ;-) Not that I'm keeping tabs on you or anything.....

                        1. re: coll

                          oh coll blessings your way-
                          you're too kind and precisely correct BTW
                          I'm no fool and being in here I've learned to say nothing (not comment) or I get scolded demeaned or put down.

                          also been sent a link and on occasion thought 'how hard would it have been to remark' mostly though > I get the point.

                        2. re: iL Divo

                          It's all about context. If a poster I was familiar with posted just a link then I might not think anything of it, except oh cool what I needed! But if I was a new poster I might not know how to react.

                          I have read many of your posts and I don't think you have anything to worry about :)

                        1. My girlfriend posted this:

                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/968826

                          8 replies so far and 1 recommendation. You are not an expert if you cant answer a question. This is one of the downfall of this website.

                          28 Replies
                          1. re: albatruffles

                            I saw that post and had the same reaction that you got in response. I mainly lurk on France as I get there every couple of years -- often enough to follow the Board but not often enough to be a local expert. If you read the prior threads and they were of limited value, then you should say so in the initial post and explain why. E.g., " I note that there is a consensus that resto X in city Y is supposed to be excellent. Unfortunately we will be there on a Sunday when they are closed. Any alternate suggestions?"

                            1. re: albatruffles

                              It's a completely subjective question with no parameters. Hoping for a recommendation that's perfect for you won't happen if we don't know anything about you.

                              1. re: Hobbert

                                You miss the point, I'm asking what you think is the best food, once I get a few replies I can do more research and narrow from there.

                                How does any publication write about the best restaurants in an area. Do they know about all their readers preferences/parameters. No they just write. CHers should follow suit.

                                1. re: albatruffles

                                  Why not shoot for recommendations that suit you? Narrowing down a type of food, price point, general area, etc is a great way to do that. The cool thing about CH is that we can do that unlike a national magazine.

                                  1. re: Hobbert

                                    Yeah, and don't recommend Per Se to me unless I've qualified by telling you that I'm willing to spend a grand for dinner. I've found generally that I don't love Mediterrean'ish food so, even it's YOUR best, I need to qualify. And I probably shouldn't say "I'm not going to answer any more of your questions."

                                    1. re: c oliver

                                      I'll give you the benefit of doubt when you said the OP should know better on how to phase or word a post better.....but unfortunately, like myself, most of the people in the world are not very bright and are not aware of much beyond their immediate self or proximity ....even the ones who recommend or query about Per Se.

                                      My favorite questions on Chowhound....

                                      What should I eat at Per Se, EMP and etc.....and who has the cheapest Beluga

                                      Really,

                                      1. re: fourunder

                                        Sorry if I didn't explain that well. I wasn't talking about the ability to write but rather just plain old fashioned politeness. And being practical. If you want help, a little humility goes a LONG way :)

                                      2. re: c oliver

                                        Yeah, if I get a bunch of replies for sushi, a dish I dislike, extremely expensive restaurants, or a place that's inaccessible without a car, that doesn't help me. But, it's on me if I haven't given provided any parameters. I'm lazy- I want info that's specific to me that I can go out and act on so I take an extra minute and give some details.

                                        I've got a trip to New Orleans coming up and I've read loads of threads and have a plan about where to go but, if I hadn't, I wouldn't say "where should I eat in NO?" Rather, I'd say "I'll be in NO for 3 days- looking for an upscale dinner and casual lunches in the French Quarter for $100/person max. I like seafood, anything spicy, and I'd love to try Vietnamese and traditional NO fare. Any recommendations?"

                                        For me, it's about maximizing results for myself. That's all.

                                        1. re: Hobbert

                                          Yep. This isn't the time for a crystal ball. Nobody wins and everybody gets frustrated.

                                2. re: albatruffles

                                  sounds like the people on the France board maybe just don't know but want to put in their 2 cents bc they're bored. I wish this happened on Mountain States. I see what you're saying now. it's a weird one. I haven't gotten this ever.

                                  1. re: trolley

                                    I only glanced at that thread but recognized at least one name of someone who sure as hell does know a ton and is always quite generous with his/her knowledge. But when asked an unanswerable question, what's one to do.

                                    1. re: c oliver

                                      By nature, some are helpful in life and others like to complain and argue.

                                      If I had any knowledge, I would just make a few recs and move on. it's a lot easier.

                                      This thread in particular is full of the latter.

                                      1. re: fourunder

                                        completely agree, I appreciate the support

                                        1. re: albatruffles

                                          In fourunder's reply to me I didn't read that as support for you.

                                          1. re: c oliver

                                            In reading the thread though, i agree completely with what (a) was trying to convey. The 7 who did not offer any advice decided to give lengthy admonishments instead.

                                            Some went at length to nitpick each and every line of the request or query right down to counting the number of cities.

                                            I don't think a's girlfriend was expecting each and every responder to to give recommendations for each city.....just if they had any experience and could provide information for places they liked...if only for one recommendation for one city.

                                            1. re: fourunder

                                              I'm not talking about the girlfriend's post but rather this one...you know, the

                                              "CHers should just answer the questions being asked and leave their egos at he door.

                                              Also, dont waste my time telling me to read every past posts on a city, just summarize it or me."

                                              You're not an asshole for asking or answering but rather HOW it's done.

                                              1. re: c oliver

                                                First off, I give you permission to call me an asshole anytime....

                                                Second, I can sympathize with the frustration of the OP... a small part of me agrees with his impression of others, especially the ones who think they are being smart and subversive to avoid being deleted

                                                1. re: fourunder

                                                  I gotta stay on your good side if you're going to be my next husband :)

                                                  If OP had come in being remotely nice then perhaps. But to wade in with comments like "don't waste my time," etc. isn't going to win any friends. Most of us spend considerable time helping just about anyone. I read the thread that prompted this and don't find it mean at all. And certainly not worthy of OPs rants.

                                                  I live in an area without a ton of restaurants so if someone asks I can give a few of MY faves. But in places like France for goodness sake, I do think it takes some narrowing down. And I thought that's what those posters were attempting to do.

                                                  Let me give this example when parigi, who was one who replied on that other thread, replied to someone who gave a concise version of what they were looking for in Barcelona.

                                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/924102

                                                  I found him/her very helpful when we were planning our Barcelona trip.

                                                  OP has been on CH (as a poster) for five years and I'd think would be able to structure questions in a way to get the best responses. And if not happy with the replies, coming stomping into Site Talk is probably pretty unproductive.

                                              2. re: fourunder

                                                you hit the nail on the head. My girlfriend is nodding in agreement.

                                            2. re: albatruffles

                                              I'm with you brother.

                                              While you are not an expert if you can't answer a question... apparently, you're a lazy asshole if you ask one.

                                              1. re: fourunder

                                                while there's no such thing as a dumb question, there is such a thing as an idle and unconsidered one.

                                      2. re: albatruffles

                                        I thought it was a legitimate question and the responses rude It certainly seemed easy for the last poster to toss out of couple of places that stand out in the experience. I have no experience in that part of the world, but ask me any special places to put on your list when you're vacationing from Boston, with stops in Portsmouht, Ogunquit, Portland, Freeport, Camden and Bar Harbor, I could certainly toss out of few standouts I've visited over the years. It was a very simple question that should have had some more kind responses like, if you happen to be in X village, this bakery makes the best pastry I've had in my life, if you like truffles, this place in town Y does a version of fresh pasta that will knock your socks off etc etc etc.

                                        I think it is a growing problem on the boards. Awhile back I asked if anyone had any favorite road food on the 95 corridor between NYC and Boston. Many posters chose to ignore the question and badger me that I was driving the wrong route even though I have been driving the various routes for 45 years, and know what route works best for me. It really was disconcerting how many people posted about my route being wrong, and how few people offered an answer to my question.

                                        1. re: Bellachefa

                                          I also think there's a lot of "overthinking it" that happens here. unless the OP says I have dietary restrictions or I don't want to go to paris and eat american food it should just be suggestions based on personal opinions. really who cares if you're from zimbabwe or wisconsin? it's the OP's responsibility to say "i'm coming from wisconsin to LA so i'm not interested in eating cheddar cheese". the OP asked what are some great restaurants? the answers should be as simple as "i loved eating at joe schmoe's and chez whitey's".

                                        2. re: albatruffles

                                          I think you got a number of really thoughtful responses.

                                          1. re: albatruffles

                                            The issue with your girlfriend's post is that it is incredibly broad and suggests that she did no research whatsoever before posting the question. Had she been more specific with her preferences or at least prefaced her post with something along the lines of "I tried doing a search but don't know where to start", she might have gotten more useful responses.

                                            Have you responded to the generic "What should I eat in X city" posts on Chowhound yourself? Personally I ignore those. I have no idea if my recommendations would be useful at all to this type of poster and I would rather not waste my time.

                                            1. re: churros

                                              I would argue she did provide enough details to receive some recommendations

                                              "We are interested in the must visit best restaurants from a food perspective, anything from Michelin 3* to casual bistros and bakeries."

                                              I have no history traveling to France, but using NYC as an example, if asked for must visits in Manhattan,even though none are 3*, bistos or bakeries....I would recommend Katz's Delicatessen and Jung's Dried Beef. If asked for Brooklyn, then I would say Peter Luger much to the disdain of naysayers. It's really not that hard to provide a quick and easy answer.

                                              ....but if you think she did not, then both a and the GF both came back and provided further details outlining their preferences., but still no responses, only more admonishment.

                                              There are always people requesting information for the best, the cheapest and etc....and most often, those requests are honored and answered but the community. The issues and concerns of the France thread and the OP here though bring out all those who choose not to help.

                                              Why is it that when a future bride asks for the best or cheapest wedding venue, others are willing to help. when someone asks for the best and cheapest place to buy vegetables or other food items, others are willing to help.....but if you ask for the best restaurant in France or a local board, you're told to do a search. Is there a correlation to answering or not due to social status...or more precisely financial status whether or not you can be bothered to answer or not?

                                              1. re: fourunder

                                                The way that France thread reads currently, I don't see major issues. I think the initial post was too broad, then someone asked for additional information, and finally we see some constructive dialogue. Seems okay to me.

                                                As I said, I normally ignore these types of posts myself. I like to feel that my advice may be of some value (don't we all?), and there's a good chance I'll be wasting my time with these types of posts. Do you actually respond to the "Where to get the best food in NYC" posts yourself? I see some regulars respond with links or requests for additional information. The exact thing that the OP seems to be complaining about.

                                                1. re: churros

                                                  I rarely participate in any thread asking for the best of anything....and I rarely attach the moniker *best* to anything, but two exceptions for me are:

                                                  Katz's Pastrami.....and Ping's/Jung's Dried Beef & Pork

                                                  I also do not participate on threads asking for the Cheapest of anything.

                                          2. My issue with CH is the presence of "Lexington, KY CHer visiting Manhattan"-type threads. I don't adversely comment on threads in which I have no interest, but what exactly is the purpose of those?

                                            For instance, I chose Lexington because two distinct pizza places there served me slices with cheddar. Does that mean visitors from Kentucky are only eager about NY pizza that reminds them of home? If that's the case, why create a thread?

                                            3 Replies
                                            1. re: BuildingMyBento

                                              Perhaps that's less helpful in NYC, since you can get pretty much anything there and it's going to be better than you can get it wherever you're from. But in other cities, if the OP doesn't specify, often the first question is "where are you from?" so that the locals can target recommendations and offer things the OP can't get at home. If a Torontonian is visiting Chicago, I'm not going to try to find them a peameal sandwich (or assume that's what they want to find), but I will probably recommend my favorite places for Mexican food before I toss dim sum, ramen, or Portuguese at them. Likewise, I'm not going to tell someone from BBQ country about my favorite BBQ shack in Michigan...but I might point them to my favorite source for smoked whitefish.

                                              1. re: BuildingMyBento

                                                I apologize for the cheddar cheese on behalf of all Kentuckians. That's so wrong.

                                                1. re: BuildingMyBento

                                                  What I often see on the Seattle board is: 'I'm visiting from SF/NY/Boston and want the most unique/best/etc Seattle dining experience.'

                                                  Right now there are 3 threads in the top ten that fall in that 'recommendations for visitor' category. If locals are slow to respond, or give 'read past threads' responses, it's likely due to burnout.

                                                2. This thread reminds me of a life lesson a learned many, many years ago.

                                                  "The problem with Chowhound"

                                                  Anytime you are trying to solve a problem, the first step should be to the nearest mirror, take a look at it, and start with what you see. Fact is pointing fingers to others for what is wrong with a situation rarely achieves as much as making the changes you need to yourself, to change the things you don't like.

                                                  This thread has already been moderated and several comments removed, simply because your original question was.......well is rather obnoxious. This isn't a subscription site, nobody is here to serve YOUR needs. This is a community of like minded individuals to share information. It's not about any one of us "just summarize it or me" (typo intentionally copied). I'm not here to take dictation for you or to summarize anything, the burden of responsibility is yours to find what you are looking for on here.

                                                  This thread as well as the example you provided about your trip are both very poorly structured to receive any constructive feedback. Instead you are getting questions from people trying to find away to help/answer you and you are not satisfied with their attempts. Here your post reeks of arrogance and your point of trying to get people to be more responsive or specific is lost in the perceived insult you are throwing out towards the community.

                                                  You want to realize the changes you are seeking my friend I suggest you look in the mirror and change the way you go about asking about the information you are looking for. To me the problem seems to be more with you than with Chow.

                                                  Be well and better luck with your experiences.

                                                  6 Replies
                                                  1. re: jrvedivici

                                                    Your comment doesn't add much value, you should post more on CH.

                                                        1. re: mcf

                                                          That's my thinking too. I think albatruffles would probably find Yelp more helpful for the kind of instant gratification he's looking for.

                                                        2. re: jrvedivici

                                                          "Anytime you are trying to solve a problem, the first step should be to the nearest mirror, take a look at it, and start with what you see. Fact is pointing fingers to others for what is wrong with a situation rarely achieves as much as making the changes you need to yourself, to change the things you don't like."

                                                          MGMT 101......Pretty much sums it up JR, Nice!

                                                        3. simple solution to your problem - just copy and paste your preamble before any question you or your gf posts:

                                                          * CHers should just answer the questions being asked and leave their egos at (t)he door. Also, don't waste my time telling me to read every past posts on a city, just summarize it (f)or me. *

                                                          I'm sure you will get only the best replies for the best places to dine with the best wine lists that contain the best wines...

                                                          1. What goes around, comes around.

                                                            1. I am one of those who, on my regional board, will often suggest posters use the "search" facility. It is the best advice that one can give a poster who is asking the often vague "where shall I eat" question. It's why there's a search facility.

                                                              The OP doesnt like that? Then the OP can go find a response elsewhere. Bye now.

                                                              As for time wasting.....erm, why am I bothering to respond to this thread?

                                                              1. Smh at this whole thread! I only got 3 posts in and I'm out! Happy Sunday to all! :)

                                                                1. Because coming in to ask questions that people may have already answered in other posts without doing a search first is rude. They likely have already taken time out of their day to provide that information once or twice or even more before

                                                                  I've always liked the rule that TWOP forums have had (Television Without Pity) about reading the last 15 pages or 15 days of a thread before posting (back in the day, it was read the whole thread, but as their popularity grew and the threads got longer they changed it). I'm not sure if their Rules say the reason behind the rule anymore, but my memory of it from the old days was:
                                                                  1) To ensure you're not rehashing something that has come up in the recent past, thus annoying everyone else participating because it makes it blatantly clear you couldn't be bothered to read what everyone else wrote, and
                                                                  2) Because it basically announces to everyone "I'm a rude jerk who thinks my time is more valuable than the time of everyone else who has already contributed here and provided valuable information."

                                                                  I think back in the day, their rule was also if you were going to be a rude jerk and not follow the rule by reading before posting, then at least don't be dumb enough to post things like "I haven't read the last few pages, but..." or "I don't have time to look it up, so can someone just tell me..."

                                                                  3 Replies
                                                                  1. re: amishangst

                                                                    On the question of being rude....

                                                                    1. the search feature on this site is not the best.

                                                                    2. often, what does come up is outdated information

                                                                    3. often, those who do not offer advice will often come back after the OP has posted, or posted follow-up and criticize...now that's rude.

                                                                    1. re: fourunder

                                                                      The search feature is easily customizable by date...last 12 months, last 30 days, or any time period desired.

                                                                      1. re: fourunder

                                                                        1. I'm not sure what "not the best" means, or why that excuses people from at least making an attempt? Or even just scrolling through the first couple pages of posts on a particular board to see if there has been something in the recent past?

                                                                        I've never had a problem finding information I've wanted using the search feature on this site. In my experience, when people tell me "the search feature sucks" or "I tried and couldn't find it" (anywhere, not just here), it actually means "I suck at knowing what to search on" because I can usually find the information in under 60 seconds searching on my own after that.

                                                                        2. Even if it's outdated information, then at least that gives the opportunity to ask a better question or get a little bit more involved beyond hit and run "answer my question" posting. "I did a search to see what the best options are in Podunk City, and the last post was in 2010. Is this still the best option? Has there been anything new in the last 4 years?" However, in my experience on the boards that get more traffic (larger metropolitan areas, non-location boards), the information doesn't get that outdated.

                                                                        3. I don't see that a lot, but I also don't have a tendency to follow up on those types of threads unless one of the recommendations is a place I'm interested in myself and haven't been to and want to see their thoughts on it. The times I have, I guess I haven't seen all that much "criticism". That said, I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. So there are two separate types of rudeness that occurs here...

                                                                    2. Here's another thread that shows similarities to this one:

                                                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9050...

                                                                      1. "Looking for some great Chinese in Boston's Chinatown on our upcoming visit."

                                                                        What kind of chinese?
                                                                        Where are you from?
                                                                        Where are you staying?
                                                                        What's your price point?
                                                                        Do you want tiawanese? cantonese? shangdon? hunan? szechuan? malaysian?
                                                                        Boston chinese food sucks.
                                                                        I hope you're not looking for lobster sauce because that is repulsive.
                                                                        American chinese food is crap.
                                                                        Where are you staying?
                                                                        What's your price point?
                                                                        Are you looking for lunch or dinner?
                                                                        Where are you travelling from?
                                                                        How many are in your party?
                                                                        You should rent a car and go to Billerica.
                                                                        We can't help you unless you explain to us what region of chinese cooking you are looking for?

                                                                        "Um, I just want to try a nice interesting restaurant in chinatown while I'm in town on a conference."

                                                                        Well do a frickin search. Have you never heard of google? We can't offer any help unless you tell us which style of chinese you are looking for, where you are staying, where you live, your likes and dislikes and your social security number.

                                                                        13 Replies
                                                                        1. re: Bellachefa

                                                                          I think a price point and American vs authentic Chinese are helpful to give the poster a recommendation they'll enjoy, though.

                                                                          Some posters do go overboard, I'll agree with you there.

                                                                          I don't know, it's kinda like saying "I need a dress for a thing I'm going to. Where should I buy one?" Well...how much? what event? what kind of dresses do you like? It doesn't help me if I get 59 recommendations for ugly dresses but it's my own fault.

                                                                          Just my 2ยข.

                                                                          1. re: Hobbert

                                                                            How about this.

                                                                            "I'm going to Bankok for the first time next month for business. Is there any place, be it 5 star or a street vendor that has knocked your socks off that I should try to hit?"

                                                                            No need for 29 questions. Just toss out a couple of places that knocked your socks off. This joe shmoe has no idea what he is looking for. No need to barrage him with inane questions, put him thru the ringer and offer no help three paragraphs later after telling him to google and get a guide book and report back with a more detailed question.

                                                                            1. re: Bellachefa

                                                                              But the OP is going to get a better answer if it's qualified just a bit. Not 29 questions.

                                                                              1. re: c oliver

                                                                                And, as Boston Hounds have learned, at least for Chinese food, the more specific the answers, the better we can direct the person. In the past, there have been complaints on the Boston board because of this. For example, someone wanted the best chinese food. At the time, Peach Farm was a darling of the board. But, PF is really only great if you want Cantonese seafood from the tanks. The poster was looking for american chinese food and didn't like it at PF. As a side, PF is delicious and great. But the fresh seafood from the tanks does get pricey (live fish, live shrimp, Conch). If someone wanted to eat there, they have to be aware of that fact so budget does matter.

                                                                                To me, for chinese food especially, it's like a flow chart. What the question and answer is, will lead to a different restaurant. And, that's within Chinatown proper. The restaurants are so region specific. I wouldn't send someone who wanted soup dumplings to New Shanghai, which specializes in Sichuan cuisine. Just like I wouldn't send a solo diner to the three course Peking Duck special at China King. It gets more complicated with the number of diners and whether or not you have a car.

                                                                                Lastly, that chinese food thread, if memory serves, that poster asked the same question within a period of a month. On the original thread, there were a fare amount of responses already so this second thread was really only going to repeat the original thread.

                                                                                1. re: beetlebug

                                                                                  Exactly! When you ask people who are obsessed with food about food, we want to help. Help us help you!

                                                                                  1. re: beetlebug

                                                                                    I wasn't sighting a particular thread, just the general tone that is often found on many threads.

                                                                                2. re: Bellachefa

                                                                                  Sure, you could ask whatever works for you. It's been my experience that when I narrow it down, I get more useful tips for myself. In your example, I'd name the area I was going to since Bangkok is huge and chaotic with traffic problems that make DC look like Mayberry :) Ultimately, if you're the one asking the question and you like the answers you get, then you're all set and it really doesn't matter what I think. Heck, I'll chime in with a recommendation or 2! (I'll just secretly wish I could be more helpful if I knew a bit more about what you wanted.)

                                                                                  1. re: Hobbert

                                                                                    When you demonstrate that you have done your homework and asked focused questions, you get better answers and more respect. This is not unique to CH but true of many areas in life.

                                                                                  2. re: Bellachefa

                                                                                    "5 star or a street vendor that has knocked your socks off that I should try to hit?"

                                                                                    that is a valid question yet wasn't how it was asked.

                                                                                    otherwise the response is what? oh you have to drive 15 miles out of town, stop at the 2nd red house and ask if Ruby is cooking today and get directions from there.

                                                                                    as "best" can mean just too many things.

                                                                                  1. re: c oliver

                                                                                    Yes... Hard for folks to meet your needs if you don't say what they are.

                                                                                    1. re: c oliver

                                                                                      oh there you go with the hated links.

                                                                                    2. re: Bellachefa

                                                                                      Your continued extreme hyperbole does nothing to help your argument.

                                                                                    3. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/969085

                                                                                      Another post that asks some qualifying questions of an OP visiting Toronto.

                                                                                      1. Just wanted to jump in before this gets locked.

                                                                                        You get what you give. You give details, you get details. You give attitude, you get attitude. Sometimes you get the drunk philosophical hound, sometimes you get the cheerleader hound, or sometimes the belligerent hound responding. If you don't like it there is always yelp, trip advisor, Zagats, etc.

                                                                                        5 Replies
                                                                                        1. re: viperlush

                                                                                          Just trying to improve CH...while it's around.

                                                                                          1. re: albatruffles

                                                                                            And how are you trying to improve the site please?

                                                                                            1. re: albatruffles

                                                                                              ===============

                                                                                              albatruffles 23 minutes ago

                                                                                              Just trying to improve CH...while it's around.

                                                                                              =================

                                                                                              Hahahahahahaha.

                                                                                              The "hits" just keep on comin' as they say.

                                                                                              Wow.

                                                                                              Just wow.

                                                                                              Glad this is a food site and I;m a foodie. I've damn near eaten a 5 gallon pail of popcorn just following this thread.

                                                                                              And I help Moderate/Admin three non-food public web forums.

                                                                                              Okay.
                                                                                              Yep--I'm the problem. I will take the blame.
                                                                                              Full and total blame. For ALL of Chowhound and even, 'cause I feel nice, for CBS creating it.

                                                                                              :-)

                                                                                              Happy now?

                                                                                              Oi vey.

                                                                                            2. re: viperlush

                                                                                              Viper
                                                                                              I'm not hitting recommend however I would if only .....

                                                                                              but you're exactly right

                                                                                              I've written comments that have never been in a post because I'm angry&done

                                                                                              1. re: iL Divo

                                                                                                I'm really not understanding what you're saying :(

                                                                                            3. This thread has deteriorated into name-calling and worse. The OP has made his point; we're locking the thread now.