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Hi all:

we are a family of 3. all of us (including the 4 year old) have big appetites. I like to cook and entertain. and i'm installing a second oven and a 6 burner range.

could i ask your opinion on two fridges. the counterdepth one is very nice and pretty and of good quality, but it is small. i really think 21 cubic feet is going to feel tight.

http://www.yaleappliance.com/Refriger...

I really like this one, and it only sticks out 3 more inches than the counter depth one. but it gives me 7 cubic feet more of space.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-...

i do have a chest freezer, too. any thoughts? i'm happy with the quality of both items. and the carpenter can build something around the bigger fridge to make it look more "built in."

I really appreciate all of your thoughtful advice.

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  1. eLizard, we have a counterdepth side-by-side fridge. I strongly urge against getting one unless you have no options in terms of space for a standard size.

    We used to have a standard fridge but when it died after 15 years, we had significant problems in finding a replacement standard size fridge that would fit the "hole." It ends up that refrigerators had gotten taller in the intervening years. Our kitchen design included cabinets above the refrigerator so that the refrigerator had a "built-in" look. The only refrigerator that would fit that space without ripping out the cabinets was a counterdepth.

    There are only 2 of us at home and 90% of the time, we can manage with the c-depth fridge. However, whenever we are entertaining or have a lot of leftovers, there's lots of maneuvering involved to get everything to fit. And, I am speaking of the refrigerator compartment, not the freezer. Fortunately, we have a small, under-counter refrigerator in our basement as part of a wet bar arrangement so it is available for overflow items.

    1. Where will the fridge be located? I've found that to be the biggest factor in determining what depth to use. If it sits in the middle of a cabinet run, you may find yourself extremely unhappy with the deeper unit. At 33" it will stick out 8" from your cabinets/counters, assuming 25" for counters and also assuming the fridge is flush against the back wall, which it won't be. That's a lot. Visually, it will look like it's sitting in the middle of the room. I speak from experience. :(

      OTOH, if it's at the end of a run, go for the deep one. I've got exactly that situation now and my deep fridge looks perfectly normal.

      FWIW, looking at all the depth measurements, it appears the Samsung is about 5.5 inches deeper than the Jenn-Air. Samsung has the same measurement for depth with and without handles. I believe it's 33" without handles. The Jenn-Air is ~27.5".

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      1. re: DuffyH

        Even if the fridge is part of a "cabinet run," the cabinets can be pulled out from the wall and deeper countertops installed so that the full depth fridge is flush with the cabinets. I don't know that I'd want to do this if the fridge were literally in the middle of a long run of cabinets. However, it is what we did with the fridge placed on the end of short run - i.e., next to a single base & top cabinet. As mentioned upthread, we also had 2 cabinets placed over the fridge, which we use for storage of infrequently used items.

        1. re: masha

          That is exactly what we did when we remolded our kitchen at camp. The only difference was we had extra deep cabinets made, both uppers and lowers...great storage and the extra deep counter is wonderful!

          We installed a gas reefer also, and they only come in full depth in the width we wanted.

      2. Another vote for a regular depth fridge. I have the French door Jenn Air regular depth and recently put a counter depth one in for a church kitchen remodel. At the church, it works just fine but the capacity is surprisingly limited.

        1. here is the link to the kitchen...... thanks for your input.

          http://kitchenplanner.ikea.com/US/UI/...

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          1. re: eLizard

            That link goes to the main page for the kitchen planner, not to your design. :(

            If you're installing new cabinets, 30" deep cabs will look right at home with the deeper fridge. We had them in one house and loved the added storage.

            If you have room, a second fridge in the garage is an excellent option, and one we used in our last house. Look for a used one on Craigslist, or pick up a new freezerless model for $400-500.

            Yet a third option is to look for the counter depth model with the most fridge space, since you have an extra freezer. We had a cab depth model once, for a family of 3 (one was a teenage boy) and had no problems with space. Different strokes, I guess.

            1. re: DuffyH

              city dweller. no driveway/garage. on street parking.

              i looked into a freezerless counter depth fridge. prohibitively expensive. and surprisingly not much more space.

              damn link. no idea how to make it work. when i put it in it goes to the home page and then a few seconds later the design populates.

              http://kitchenplanner.ikea.com/US/UI/...

              1. re: eLizard

                Look for the Electrolux Icon, it's pricy but not all that bad, I think it was around $2,000. Very nice unit.

              2. re: DuffyH

                We remodeled and put in a counter depth fridge that's all fridge. Plenty of space with this set up. The second fridge is about 3 steps away in the laundry room and it has the top freezer. I can't say enough about this set up. The old fridge was so deep that stuff was constantly getting lost on the lower shelves in the back. By the same token, my dughter has a counter depth side by side and there is no room for anything. It's alwys jamed. She has a second fridge now. A side by side counter depth just isn't enough room for a family unless you have another unit.

                1. re: mikie

                  that is exactly what our designer said. with a counter depth, we'd need another fridge....

                2. re: DuffyH

                  We're presently in the middle of a kitchen remodel and we've had 30" deep cabinets built to accommodate a full-depth fridge. The base cabinets/drawers are great and do provide lots of extra storage space.

              3. I think those "counter top depth" fridges work well design-wise for people who are squeezing them into existing cabinets/kitchens.

                Since you have a carpenter, I agree with the other posters. Get the fridge that works for you and your family and let your cabinet maker/carpenter build a surround.

                Like the poster below, mine is at the end of a short run of cabinets and I really enjoy the deeper counter-tops.

                1. Counter depth is awesome with plenty of space. Not much less than standard depth. If your in the north east you might want to look at solidwoodcabinets.com I did my entire kitchen for under $7K with appliances. Twice the quality of ikea.

                   
                   
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                  1. re: VeganVick

                    thank you so much. i am in the northeast, but the ikea ship has sailed, i think. so i'm going with that. how many cubic feet is that fridge??

                    1. re: eLizard

                      I'll have to check when I get home I will try to give you all the specs of the kitchen and appliances

                      1. re: eLizard

                        Side by SideTotal Capacity22.6 Cubic Feet Total CapacityFresh Food Capacity14.2 Cubic Feet Fresh Food CapacityFreezer Capacity8.4 Cubic Feet Frozen Food CapacityDefrost TypeFrost FreeDispenserIce and Water Dispenser with FilterInterior Shelf TypeSpill Proof Glass ShelvesDeep Door StorageAdjustable Door ShelvingCrisper Drawer Type2 Humidity Controlled CrispersMeat Storage BinStandard Deli DrawerIce MakerFactory Installed Ice Maker with FilterFreezer Shelves3 Wire Freezer ShelvesFreezer Storage Baskets2 Freezer Storage BasketsFreezer Door Shelves4 Freezer Door ShelvesEnergy Star CompliantMeets Energy Star RequirementsCounter DepthYesEnergy Star Tier LevelEnergy Star Tier Level 3Replacement Water FilterULTRAWFDimensions35.6(w) X 69.8(h) X 26.8(d)Shipping Weight310 lbsWarranty Terms - Parts12 MonthsWarranty Terms - Labor12 Months

                          1. re: eLizard

                            My mom has standard depth version of this refrigerator not a big difference. But for the life of me I can't understand why hers was lower in price.

                            1. re: VeganVick

                              Becuse they sell more standard depth refrigerators. Odd, but simple and true.

                    2. I'm in the greater Boston area and just finished a kitchen renovation this past December. For the fridge, I debated between the counter depth and regular size. I ended up going for the regular size, not only for the significantly more cubic feet of space but because of price. The two cost the same and I refused to pay the same price when I would lose about 6 cubic feet of space.

                      I did have a brief panic moment thinking that the fridge would be too big. And, yes, the fridge is big but what eased my mind were the vegetable bins. The veg bins on the counter depth fridge were just so small and since that's our most used space, I didn't change the order. I went with the GE Cafe French door fridge and I love it. I'm amazed at the shelf life of my vegetables. They stay fresher longer and they don't get weird ice marks (like my old fridge).

                      FWIW, I'm also a city dweller and also have a small kitchen but the fridge stands alone. The contractor built a cabinet around it.

                      Lastly, I bought all my appliances at Beach Sales in Revere. I was really happy with them. No up selling, willing to negotiate and super knowledgeable. I would highly recommend them.

                      http://www.beachsalesinc.com

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                      1. re: beetlebug

                        The small size of the 2 produce bins in my counter-depth fridge is one of my absolute pet peeves about the appliance. I do my shopping once/week (over the weekend) for the entire upcoming week. Especially in the summer when I buy bulky items like ears of corn from the farmers' market, my fridge is bursting with produce -- not just in the veg. bins but also on other shelves. And, with the exception of lemons, limes, berries and cut-up melon or pineapple, I leave my fruit out on the counter in a bowl. And, we are only 2 people.

                        1. re: beetlebug

                          thanks! i'm in dorchester. my kitchen is a pretty good size. ~250 sf. not bad for the city. i was going to yale for the hood, thermador range, and the dishwasher. getting quotes from beach now! thanks.!!!

                          1. re: eLizard

                            I'm in Cambridge and would drive by Beach Sales on the way back from Nahant Beach. It looks sketchy on the outside but it's really great on the inside. Like I said earlier, no up sales and no pressure and the sales people really know their appliances.

                            If you are flexible on the dishwasher, I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Bosch 800 series dishwasher. The most impressive thing is that it washed out the brown coffee stains out of my white mugs. We couldn't believe it. Plus, the configuration of that dishwasher is very flexible and it has a upper third rack that is great for measuring spoons, spatulas, etc.

                            1. re: beetlebug

                              with the thermador from yale, they're throwing in a bosch. but i'm still calling Beach!

                              1. re: eLizard

                                My friend with the viking fridge regrets the viking stove she chose. In hindsight she would have gone with a 6 burner rather then the center griddle, which is hardly used and a pain to clean. Just something to consider, depending on your cooking style and if you have an outdoor grill.

                                1. re: Bellachefa

                                  going with a 6 burner. we have a gas grill outside on our deck. thanks so much for all of your insight.

                                  1. re: eLizard

                                    Make sure it's a self cleaning oven

                                    1. re: VeganVick

                                      THANKS. getting 2 ovens. both self cleaning.

                              2. re: beetlebug

                                I had that Bosch dishwasher installed in my new kitchen just last week. My first impression is that it takes a rocket scientist to understand how to load it, with all the options. I've been especially intimidated by the diagram showing how to load the silverware into the baskets. Is it REALLY that complicated? I haven't run it yet -- when I have an hour or two, I'll sit down with the manual and try to understand which cycle to run.

                                1. re: CindyJ

                                  Did you get the top/third row utensil rack?

                                  1. re: monavano

                                    Yes. It's clear I'll need to change my usual dishwasher loading habits. One thing I'm eager to try that I couldn't do in my old dishwasher is load in my everyday stemware.

                                  2. re: CindyJ

                                    I saw the silverware in baskets diagram and promptly ignored it. Instead, I took the top seperators off the baskets and just put my silverware in them. But, we have always grouped our flatware, meaning all knives go in one section, forks in another, etc. we've found that it doesn't take any more time washing up but it does save time unloading.

                                    I think we just run the standard cycle. We don't do anything fancy and the dishes come out really clean.

                                    1. re: beetlebug

                                      I read where the top covers of the silverware baskets can be removed and snapped onto the sides of the baskets, but that's another task-in-waiting for when I'm ready to sit down with the manual. It really ought to be more intuitive, I think. Or maybe it IS intuitive and I just lack the intuition. :)

                                      1. re: CindyJ

                                        Yes! That's what we did with the tops. They are just hanging flat on the sides.

                                        To be honest, we didn't really look at the manual. Well, we looked at it to figure out the soap and finish situation and that's it. It's worked well for us so far.

                                        You don't lack intuition, you are just thinking too much. ;-)

                                        1. re: beetlebug

                                          Tell me about it!!! I've been overthinking EVERYTHING having to do with this kitchen remodeling project. I'm my own worst enemy. :)

                                          1. re: CindyJ

                                            I try not to overthink renovations. After research, I'll make my decision. For me, I don't think I will get more enjoyment out of the first handle I like v one I found after weeks of research. For the kitchen, I spent the most time looking into the stove, then fridge and dishwasher.

                                            1. re: CindyJ

                                              You should see my kitchen notebook.
                                              The ramblings of a lunatic!

                                          2. re: CindyJ

                                            In ours, all flatware goes into the 3rd (extra) top rack. Baskets are a waste of space with that rack installed. I also place pinch bowls and small ramekins in it, and my butter dish bases. Plus measuring spoons, etc...

                                            In the 2nd rack, there's a good spot to place more miss en place bowls, vertically. It's to the left of the center section. I put coffee cups on the far left, small bowls next to them, then cereal bowls, then finally larger bowls all the way to the right. I've got a system! LOL

                                            1. re: DuffyH

                                              Do you arrange the flatware in the slots, or do you just lay it on the rack? And do you ever use that extra showerhead?

                                              1. re: CindyJ

                                                We arrange it by item and size. It saves space and allows for maximum water flow, plus makes emptying a snap. We just grab a bunch of whatever and stick it in the drawer.

                                                Extra shower head?

                                                1. re: CindyJ

                                                  I've never used the extra shower head. I vaguely remember the sales woman telling me about it and its specific purpose. Of course, if I read the manual I would probably know when to use it.

                                                  1. re: beetlebug

                                                    i'm starting to get really confused by this dishwasher! i hope i know what i bargained for

                                                    1. re: eLizard

                                                      It will be more then fine. I find with any new to me dishwasher, there is a learning curve to efficient space usage. And, this Bosch 800 has a lot of space so even with inefficient placement of dish ware, you can still fit a lot in it. And, it will get it super clean to boot.

                                                2. re: DuffyH

                                                  That's how we use our second rack as well.

                                                  Bottom rack, plates and larger platters/bowls just fit right in.

                                                  1. re: beetlebug

                                                    I do love the bottom rack. I can fit a lot of plates in front, and fold down the rear tines to hold a couple of 4 quart saucepans or large bowls with room for platters, too. So much space!

                                        2. re: eLizard

                                          Oh, I bought my bosch dishwasher from yale and have loved it. Priced it at Sears in Braintree, but they required all sorts of fees for delivery including an unnecessary plumbing and electric permit on top of the delivery fee. Yale installed it and took the old one away at no cost. That was years ago, and both the Bosch and the Samsung fridge have proved great choices. I chose the Stainless Platinum rather the the Stainless steel and happy with it. And you really can't tell the difference between the Bosch SS and the Samsung SP

                                          1. re: Bellachefa

                                            how big is your kitchen, Bella? are you in Boston?

                                            1. re: eLizard

                                              old yankee bungalow, southish of boston
                                              12.6 x 19.6 with the stove and cabinets making a few feet on one end 8ft

                                              hence we chose not to replumb for water feature so have no experience there.

                                              1. re: Bellachefa

                                                so roughly the same size as mine. 18.6 x 13.7

                                                1. re: eLizard

                                                  around 26 cubic feet

                                                  good luck with your shopping and look at the tiny details when pricing store to store. Originally I thought I wanted the inside door water feature, but decided not. That was a couple of hundred dollars. Delivery etc. You'd be amazed at the differential.

                                                  The days of having single brand appliances is over in my world.

                                                  Good luck, glad I could offer an opinion.

                                      2. I have the 25.7 cubic foot samsung and LOVE it. We are a couple. My best friend has a counter depth Viking, and we both HATE it. (and the on door ice machine has never functioned well)

                                        We actually make our own ice and have foregone the ice machine in the freezer, and didn't get the inside door water dispenser feature.

                                        I love the space. I love to dry out a chicken or turkey or steak for 24 hours before roasting. I love how the veggies and fruits last so much longer in crisper. I love not spending time moving things around to make room. I love that I can easily put prepared platters in for entertaining. I love being able to place a cooled down braising pot on a towel to defat and reheat the next day.

                                        For years we had an apartment sized fridge waiting for it to die. My mother thought I was crazy to buy such a big fridge. My mother was wrong. It is a joy!

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                                        1. re: Bellachefa

                                          it appears to have the same dimenstions as the 28 cf one

                                        2. We put in a CD fridge for our redo. Love it. But, we have a freezer and another refrigerator.
                                          There is a big difference in capacity, but I love the look- we previously had a built-in, and we got a similar look for thousands less.

                                          Here's our KA French door DC fridge:
                                          http://www.flickr.com/photos/11055869...

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                                          1. re: monavano

                                            so pretty. and i'm going for virtually the same cabinets and drawer pulls.

                                            1. re: eLizard

                                              I love my cabinets- the Shaker style is so simple, yet elegant.
                                              Have fun with your kitchen!

                                              1. re: eLizard

                                                I just had a thought. Is there a kitchen wall the backs to a staircase? We had one like that and moved the fridge to that wall. We were able to buy a really big French door model and stick it under the stairs with room to spare behind it. It sat flush with the wall and appeared to be built in.

                                                That's the same fridge we have today, on the end of a cabinet run.

                                                1. re: DuffyH

                                                  stairs at the front, kitchen in the back

                                              2. re: monavano

                                                In my book, "form follows function." It may be a good look but the OP has stated that her home does not provide space for a second refrigerator. If it's the only fridge that she has, I would strongly urge a full depth fridge. As stated upthread, I say that based on 10 years of experience with a counter-depth fridge, which was itself a replacement for 15+ years with a full-depth. I've had both and the c-depth is a serious sacrifice of space even for our empty-nest household of 2

                                                1. re: masha

                                                  The OP is free to do whatever she wants. I related my experience, that is all.
                                                  I gave NO advice.
                                                  Calm down. No need to push back on my post and hijack the thread. It was going nicely all by itself.

                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                    Sorry if I seemed a bit strident. We all want our kitchens to look fantastic when we redo them. Based on the space constraints that the OP indicated limit her to a single fridge, the size of her family (including a young child whose appetite will increase as he/she ages), and the fact that she recognized that her carpenter should be able to create a "built in" look if she goes with the full size fridge, it just seems obvious to me that she would be better off doing so. Once the cabinets are installed and the carpenter finishes his work, it will be difficult for her to swap out a c-d fridge for a full-size, if she regrets her initial choice, so this is a decision that she should strive to get "right" the first time. Of course, it's her decision, not mine.

                                                    1. re: masha

                                                      You must pick out your appliance and stick to it. Bad things happen when you change your mind.
                                                      Neighbors down the road (same designer and contractor) decided to take advantage of a Sears Kenmore deal AFTER the cabinetry went to shop.
                                                      Their fridge and one drawer do not completely open.
                                                      Can you imagine?
                                                      I'd be kicking myself in the ass for doing that.
                                                      I knew how important it was to make a decision and stick to it, which is why picking out the appliances was the most mentally exhausting part of the kitchen redo.

                                                      OP, if you do do a CD, I'd go with the French door. I'll never have another side by side again!
                                                      Our CD is 21.8 cf, so on the higher end of CD.

                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                        Pick your appliance and stick with it. But also do good research up front. We thought we had good appliances picked out on our last kitchen remodel. It was only after everything was installed that we found out the hood we'd been sold was not up to the task. As the cabinets were in, the only option we had was a model with the blower mounted on the roof. Between the new hood, HVAC crew to put in the new ducting, and a roofer, we were out an additional $2500

                                                        1. re: mike0989

                                                          our range and hood are our big splurges. i cook and bake a lot. hubs wants to be able to get a good sear on a steak without setting off smoke alarms. right now we basically have the equivalent of a box fan over the range. our hood is going on an external wall and venting outside.

                                                          http://www.yaleappliance.com/Ventilat...

                                                          1. re: mike0989

                                                            Funny, we decided to take out our range hood after it was installed.
                                                            It was the first appliance choice I made- from Costco- so it seemed like a great deal.
                                                            We hated it.
                                                            Fortunately, and I mean very fortunately, we were able to get our contractor to take it out and put in our Vent A Hood with no problems at all.
                                                            Cost us minimal labor and we were able to roll it back into Costco and get a refund!

                                                          2. re: monavano

                                                            the jen-air i'm looking at is 21.8.

                                                              1. re: Bellachefa

                                                                mind your own business.

                                                                but really, i appreciate every response regardless if it lines up exactly with all of my requirements. thank you all

                                                      2. re: monavano

                                                        We did something similar, but we pulled forward the cabinets and extended the countertop to fit a full-size refrigerator.

                                                        1. re: calumin

                                                          We had the Amish build our cabinets, very high end, the extra depth cost was only for materials...nice to deal with ppl with honesty...or should I say Mennonite?

                                                          1. re: Raffles

                                                            Yes, honesty is so very refreshing.

                                                            1. re: Raffles

                                                              Why would you say Mennonite if they were Amish?

                                                            2. re: calumin

                                                              Fantastic idea- our space constrictions couldn't handle that, but that IS brilliant.

                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                Monovano, that was the solution I was referring to in our discussion in which I said that her carpenter could provide the aesthetics of a built-in look for a full depth fridge. I did not go into that detail in my most recent posts because I'd made that point upthread in my first 2 posts (describing that this is how we redid our kitchen but when the full depth fridge died after 15 years we ended up with a c-depth because fridges had generally become taller in the intervening years, we found a c-depth fridge that was shorter, and we did not want to tear out the cabinets installed above the fridge).

                                                              2. re: calumin

                                                                we're going to have the over fridge cabinet and flanking cabinets pulled out as much as possible to make it appear more builtin

                                                                1. re: eLizard

                                                                  If you are putting a cabinet over a full size fridge, I recommend slide out shelves. My fridge is so tall and deep that there would be no way I could access the back of the cabinet if they didn't slide out. As it is, I don't have a lot up there bc I have to get a taller step stool.

                                                                  1. re: beetlebug

                                                                    Oh -- what a great idea! Why didn't I think of that? Maybe it's not too late for me to get slide-out shelves for my 30"-deep over-fridge and over-oven cabinets. It feels like those cabinets are MILES deep.

                                                                    1. re: CindyJ

                                                                      I bet you can add them now. I think you can just buy rev a shelf components and install them.

                                                                      1. re: beetlebug

                                                                        Funny -- I've got a tab open right now to a rev-a-shelf trash can.

                                                                    2. re: beetlebug

                                                                      We put our baking sheets, racks and paddles over the fridge. It was good use of the space,

                                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                                        I thought about that but the cabinet is just a bit too tall (and deep) to access on a regular basis. I use my baking sheets and racks more frequently then that, although maybe not a bad idea to bake less often. :)

                                                                        1. re: beetlebug

                                                                          Being on the taller side made that possible for us- we don't need step stools to access everything in there.

                                                                      2. re: beetlebug

                                                                        Yes, the back part of our 2 over-fridge cabinets (especially the upper one) are reserved for items that we don't use much -- the extra large roasting pan that we only use at Thanksgiving, the 2 fondue pots (we use them, but not often). But the front portion of the lower cabinet holds things that we use more often. It still is nice having the extra storage in the kitchen. Dragging out a step stool is still easier than running down to the basement store room, which is where this stuff would otherwise be.

                                                                    3. re: calumin

                                                                      We did the same thing, which had the added benefit of having 30"-deep base cabinets.

                                                                  2. In our last house, we had a bottom freezer fridge that stuck out a few inches, similar to the Samsung. We loved it. In our current house, it came with a counter depth side by side. It doesn't hold as much as our old fridge, and we do notice this. Additionally, being a side by side, it's awkward getting the most use out of the space it has. We kept the garage fridge from our last house and it's saving right now.

                                                                    1. I have been surprised at how much my sub zero side x side seems to hold... It seems much more efficient than the similarly sized whirlpool side by side I have in a different house.

                                                                      That said, how much space you need on a day to day basis depends on how you shop, how much you cook, and how many liquid refreshments are necessary. We typically don't have soda, juice, or more than a 1/2 gallon of milk, and limit beer to one six pack or so. We have a shelf set just the right height for a carton of eggs and a few bottles of white wine and this leaves plenty of room for food, including epic trips to the farmers market.

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                                                                      1. re: firecooked

                                                                        we don't put any liquids in our fridge except for dairy. and very little dairy at that. our soft drinks are on a shelf in a hallway outside our unit. we do go thru a tremendous amount of ice.

                                                                        we make room for alcohol on an as needed basis. we are not big drinkers. maybe a bottle of chardonnay on the weekends. so for parties we just ice down a bunch in a pretty metal tub.

                                                                      2. Three bits from our kitchen remodel (albeit 5 years ago):

                                                                        1. Counter-depth fridge: there's only 2 of us, but I find the reduced cubic footage annoying. I sometimes stack stuff on top of each other just to make space. (Maybe I need to re-read that "condementia" thread.)
                                                                        2. 'Cause of the plumbing for the ice-maker, I don't fully shove the 'fridge back as far to make it truly "counter level," so I've lost a little of that feature.
                                                                        3. When you're having custom cabinetry built around any appliance, consider the future: we did that for the 2 built-in wall ovens. Now we may need to replace 1 of the units, only to find that the cabinetry, built for that specific unit, may not fit the ovens we can find now, 5 years on. We haven't a clue what we'll do about that.

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                                                                          1. re: pine time

                                                                            thank you for the points on the cabinetry! also, we took delivery of our standard depth fridge, and i believe that was the right choice for our family. thanks so much to everyone for her advice.

                                                                          2. We were fortunate, when we redid our kitchen I had the contractor move the wall behind our fridge in about 6 to 8 inches so now it looks cabinet depth but is a full size. This was cheaper to do than the difference in prices on the fridge.

                                                                            1. We have a regular depth reefer on a wall of cabinets. I took out the wallboard behind the reefer and then turned the studs sideways. The board at the bottom was left the same as the reefer slid over that. The wallboard was not replaced. That will gain about 2 1/2 inches using 2X4's and, as with us, 4 1/2 inches when using 2X6's. That was all the room we needed to make a regular depth reefer look like a counter depth one. Easiest solution I know of.