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Business Dinner near Ritz Carlton [San Francisco]

jrgkittredge Mar 10, 2014 02:42 PM

I am taking a small group, 5-6, of colleagues out for dinner during the week. We will be staying at the Ritz and would like to walk to a nearby restaurant if possible.

We'd like a place where we can chat, so not too noisy, but a lively, nice atmosphere would be fun. We'd prefer not to be overly formal or stuffy.

We're very eclectic eaters, and some of the group travels quite a bit, so something a little different would be nice, i.e. no Italian or a steak places.

Price range moderate, preferably entrees in the 20's to 30's.

Suggestions welcome.


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  1. bbulkow RE: jrgkittredge Mar 10, 2014 02:49 PM

    Gitane and Sons and Daughters are two commonly recommended places within walking distance. Gitane should meet spec for fun, reasonably loud but not too much, interesting. I haven't been to S&D.

    There is a large hill surrounding the Ritz, so walking to any restaurant will be reasonable, and walking back will be more difficult.

    If you expand to "5 minute cab ride" you'll get a much larger selection.

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    1. re: bbulkow
      monfrancisco RE: bbulkow Mar 10, 2014 03:07 PM

      The Sutter/Stockton Garage is helpful here; you can (carefully) walk on the auto ramp that lets out on Bush & Stockton, thus avoiding the Pee Stairs in the tunnel, and walk up the one steep block to the hotel. Once in the garage, you get on the elevator and exit either on Stockton or Bush, depending.

      1. re: monfrancisco
        hill food RE: monfrancisco Mar 11, 2014 10:34 AM

        mon - the 'pee stairs' heh I used to live at 510 Stockton and dealt with those on a daily basis. even on the days DPW hosed them down, they'd be all nasty again in a few hours. somedays I'd stop at the top and see who was snoozing down on the landing and change my path.

        the garage was a good shortcut from almost Grant and Sutter up to Stockton and Bush in rainy weather.

      2. re: bbulkow
        pamf RE: bbulkow Mar 10, 2014 03:22 PM

        Gitane can be tricky for a group of 6 because it is a very small place. Sister restaurants Cafe Claude and Claudine on the same street might also work.

        A block of so further east is Belden Place with quite a few restaurants to choose from including Plouf (french featuring mussels) and B44 Spanish cuisine.

        1. re: bbulkow
          goldangl95 RE: bbulkow Mar 10, 2014 06:01 PM

          Walking distance there isn't much of interest (except for Gitane and the others already mentioned). The House is a bit further afield and is satisfying (though nothing groundbreaking) Asian Fusion.

          It's just not the hippest/most creative area for food around that area.

        2. Robert Lauriston RE: jrgkittredge Mar 10, 2014 07:47 PM

          Jai Yun, R&G Lounge, Wayfare Tavern, Wexler's, B44, Cafe Claude, Gitane, and Aquitaine are all within six blocks.

          So are Perbacco and Barbacco, which while Italian do not have your typical menus.

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          1. re: Robert Lauriston
            goldangl95 RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 10, 2014 08:38 PM

            I would not want to walk all the way back from Perbacco to the Ritz (but that may be my laziness talking)

            I think for East Coasters Perbacco, Wayfare Tavern, and Cafe Claude are all rather typical.

            R & G lounge and Jai Yun are not "hip" if that's a concern. Jai Yun will only appeal to a specific type of crowd, I'd research it thoroughly before committing co-workers to it.

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              Ruth Lafler RE: goldangl95 Mar 10, 2014 09:37 PM

              My first thought was Perbacco as well. The atmosphere is well-suited to a business dinner and the food is good and interesting without being challenging. You can certainly walk there from the R-C (although if any of your colleagues are of a persuasion that wears high heels, walking down can be challenging as well). As noted, it's a steep walk up hill on the way back (but then, almost any place is).

              1. re: goldangl95
                Robert Lauriston RE: goldangl95 Mar 11, 2014 08:39 AM

                They could always take the California St. cable car back up the hill.

                Jai Yun is not lively.

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                  Ruth Lafler RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 11, 2014 10:20 AM

                  The cable car is really expensive! Great if you want the experience, not great if you just want transportation.

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                    Robert Lauriston RE: Ruth Lafler Mar 11, 2014 10:23 AM

                    It's $6.

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                      Ruth Lafler RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 11, 2014 10:25 AM

                      $6 for 5-6 people is $30+ for what would be a $5 cab ride.

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                        Robert Lauriston RE: Ruth Lafler Mar 11, 2014 10:50 AM

                        I always think the cable car is $6 worth of fun.

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                          Ruth Lafler RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 11, 2014 10:55 AM

                          That's what I said, right? "Great if you want the experience, not great if you just want transportation."

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