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Ate lunch today at the counter at White Dog in Philadelphia. While enjoying conversation with friend, I choked on dregs in my glass.

Server removed cost of wine from the check, if not memory from my throat. She apologized for "overpouring."

I was still appalled. Thoughts??

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  1. It was removed from the check and apologized for. Justice was done, all is well.

    1. Oh, the humanity! ;-)

      1. What is it that you think they should do -- they've already removed it from your bill and apologised -- I'm sure they'd remove the memory from your throat if they could, but it's simply not possible.

        You were unharmed -- it's not pleasant, but not really traumatic...but you pretty obviously feel there's something else they should do -- what should they do?

        1. Choked? That sounds very serious. Did you require medical attention?

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          1. re: Fowler

            No medical attention required, although I am under the care of an ENT for throat issues. Before ordering anything, I had told the bartender (server) that I could not tolerate anything acidic.

            I had ordered carefully. Omitted onions and most cheddar cheese from mushroom omelet and fries. Made side of greens into full plate replacement for fries with light dressing.

            1. re: Seeker19104

              "I had told the bartender (server) that I could not tolerate anything acidic."

              I am just trying to understand the situation because it sounds serious.

              You told the bartender that you could not tolerate anything acidic yet they gave you a glass of wine?

              1. re: Fowler

                and they probably didn't bring a glass of wine unless it had been, um, *ordered*

                and fries are acidic? More acidic than greens with light dressing?

                You're contradicting yourself pretty badly....what exactly was the problem with the wine -- why exactly was it more or less egregious than anything else -- and what exactly do you think the restaurant should have done?

                1. re: sunshine842

                  "and fries are acidic? More acidic than greens with light dressing?"

                  Yep, that is like saying...for dessert I decided against the vanilla ice cream and opted for a cup of black coffee and a slice of lemon merengue pie because the ice cream would have been too acidic. :-)

                  1. re: Fowler

                    It's a complicated situation both to limit acid going down my throat and food that might come up. Fried foods are nixed because of the latter as is eating within four hours of going to bed.

                    As for acid, I am not supposed to have anything with a pH below 5.5 (4.4 was the initial benchmark). Following these guidelines, and making other lifestyle changes since last July, I have gotten my laryngeal reflux under control.

                    So I can have red wine and not white wine, one cup of coffee a day, and a tablespoon of vinaigrette.

                    Yes, it's a tough row to hoe when one loves good food...

                    1. re: Seeker19104

                      okay..but the dregs are still the same pH as the wine that they were in...

                      ...and I still don't know why you're so put-out at the restaurant, nor what it is that you think that they should do for you.

                      Don't get me wrong -- getting a mouthful of dregs isn't all that great, just as getting a mouthful of coffee grounds isn't that great.

                      But while it's unpleasant, it's certainly not harmful -- and having dregs/must in your wine is one of those things that just happens sometimes, and isn't related to a bad restaurant, a bad server, or even a bad wine. It's just life.

          2. Red wine has dregs, if you weren't buying an expensive glass I wouldn't expect it to be decanted. Found some unexpected residue in my home glass recently, maybe weather?

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            1. re: Bigley9

              Who knows? I probably should have been paying more attention to my food and drink than my conversation.

              The dregs were way beyond a residue. I tipped the glass and they were visible from the base to the rim all around the bowl even after I'd swallowed enough to make me gag.

              1. re: Seeker19104

                I truly don't understand how you could order wine if you know you can't "tolerate anything acidic."
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acids_in...

                1. re: Seeker19104

                  and dregs are not any more acidic than the wine -- dregs are just the solid crud that settles to the bottom of the bottle.

                  Unpleasant, but not harmful, either.

                  1. re: Seeker19104

                    In view of your medical condition, perhaps you should look into the glass before your first swallow.

                2. But now the days grow short
                  I'm in the autumn of the year
                  And now I think of my life as vintage wine
                  from fine old kegs
                  from the brim to the dregs
                  And it poured sweet and clear
                  It was a very good year

                  Frank Sinatra – It Was A Very Good Year

                  1. If a restaurant is going to be so cheap as to pour the dregs from a bottle (hope it was even opened today), they should do what I just did and decant the last glass though a coffee filter.

                    An no, it's not too early to be drinking, thank you very much.

                     
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                    1. re: PhillyBestBYOB

                      I read in The Wine Enthusiast a few years ago that one should not filter wine through a coffee filter because many standard coffee filters have been treated with bleach or other chemicals that will adversely affect the taste of the wine.

                      I do not use coffee filters for anything and thus do not know what is on the market, so maybe there are some out there that have not been chemically treated.

                      1. re: Fowler

                        (yes, there are -- they're brown)

                        1. re: Fowler

                          Yes, I use unbleached coffee filters (brown). Coffee fanatics (not me) have gotten as bad a wine geeks!

                          1. re: PhillyBestBYOB

                            It's the same chemical used to manufacture hair bleach...it could taste like heaven on earth, but I'm still really not all that willing to sit down to a big steaming cup of it.