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  1. So, rode by Nicky Rottens last night, doors were shut and butcher paper covered the windows. Apparently they are remodeling. Hope they are truly remodeling, not "closed for remodeling."

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    1. re: Dagney

      I'm pretty sure I read an article about that somewhere, but I'm drawing a blank. In the interview, they stated that they were definitely remodeling, vamping things up a bit.

      1. re: Dagney

        Yes, they are remodeling and changing the menu up a bit. I have also heard that they have bought Anthology and it will be reopening in June.

        1. re: Dagney

          It's been what, 6 months now? Last time I was in the gaslamp (late July) JR was still not back open. Any new word on this?

          1. re: mig0sd

            None here...our team has been wondering the same thing. I kind of suspect they "closed for remodeling" as a way to exit gracefully.

            1. re: Dagney

              Ahh. Suspect, you say.

              In that case, maybe when you guys are having a quiet evening sometime you could raid the place?! ;)

              1. re: DoctorChow

                ha! well, I'll peek at the window tomorrow night.

        2. Not that I've gone, but Juan Chou in South Park has closed. http://sandiego.eater.com/archives/20...

          A good Chinese restaurant would be a fantastic addition to the area, but that seems unlikely. Still, one can hope.

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          1. re: jmtreg

            I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. That location seems to struggle. I'd like to see a ramen/noodle shop go in. Not sure how South Park would receive that but it'd be a nice addition.

            1. re: globocity

              A parking lot would be a welcome addition to the area as well.

              1. re: MrKrispy

                Really ? We never have problems to find parking in this area, e.g. Juniper west of 30th

                1. re: honkman

                  Yes, either there or a couple blocks north on Laurel and environs.

                  But as MrK says, more parking would be welcome, and I'm sure the people who live close by would appreciate the reduced street parking.

                  1. re: globocity

                    Agree. If an underground/aboveground lot were to be built somewhere in that area, further south, say somewhere along Fern, would definitely work better. I think there's an existing lot around Fern and Hawthorn.

            2. Kasi in Hillcrest is done. No more Indian delivery for me.

              1. The Blarney Stone at 5th Avenue and Island Avenue? huh? Please someone tell me it's just for remodeling.

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                1. re: Dagney

                  Do you know if this is/was owned by the same people who have the Blarney Stone in Clairemont?

                  Seems like it doesn't/didn't have the draw that other restaurants on 5th do. At least when I've walked by at night (which is not on weekends these days), the place looks pretty dead. Just a very casual observation.

                  1. re: DoctorChow

                    I don't know if it's the same chain....

                2. Not a restaurant, but Jonathan's Grocery Store in La Jolla is closing on June 1st. It was my go to place for Brandt Beef.

                  Rumblings of a new single screen movie theater going in as the tenant.

                  Grumble.

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                  1. re: foodiechick

                    Harvest Ranch Markets, same owner, same inventory, slightly better prices (this past Wednesday, the El Cajon location had 20% off all meat and seafood; I didn't receive the same sale notice from the other locations).

                    http://www.harvestranchmarkets.com

                    1. re: Cathy

                      Live right around the corner from the Encinitas location, I got the email about the sale from them. Its too bad because they are local, and the managers will do special orders for me. I don't know if Whole Foods is cutting into their business. I guess with the RSF crowd, the Encinitas location will do ok.

                    2. re: foodiechick

                      Wow. .
                      That is a huge loss.
                      Love love love Jonathan's and have been shopping there for many many years.

                      Movie theater business has been in decline for a decade..
                      I think a bowling alley would be a riot and bring some blue collar fun into a white collar world.

                        1. re: foodiechick

                          Was just there and talked with them. You know they actually own that building, so they aren't being forced out. They are leasing it long term to a movie theater outfit. They told me it just made more economic sense for them to dump the location. They are moving all their key employees who want it to their other stores.

                          1. re: Wino

                            I am aware of the reasoning, which makes economic sense for the family. It still sucks for the local clients that love it. My favorite memory of the place: In December of 1990, the day before I got married (to my first, and only husband), a lame bridal shower was held at our condo by the person we now refer to as the "maid of dishonor". My betrothed, his best friend from childhood, my brother, Stepfather, Father and his best friend descended on Jonathan's - gathering pantyhose, cigars, beer and a single knife (to cut the pantyhose into robber type masks). I still have the video they shot of themselves shopping at the market and then quietly letting themselves in our condo wearing hosiery masks to scare all the ladies at the shower.

                            As much as I would support a movie theater in the community, I highly doubt there is enough local traffic to sustain it. Even though there will be a better parking situation than the old Cove Theater had (none), it would need to have a sufficient amount of traffic from outside of La Jolla (and we all know what a pain-in-the-ass that in and out trip is). Color me doubtful.

                            1. re: foodiechick

                              Two words for that space: Cheesecake Factory.

                              Seriously, though - that might have made more sense for Richard Walker's. Or maybe the Cottage could have changed their name to the "old Grocery" and moved there.

                              1. re: foodiechick

                                Hi foodiechick,

                                I finally figured out how to get to the main menu of topics and this is one thread I wanted to read. That is a super funny story you shared, thanks. I can picture it now, I am crying with laughter... Are we allowed to tell off topic stories now and then? This time it is really worth it.

                                On that street, there is an old Fire House that they now rent out for private parties, or did. I don't remember the name of it, you probably do, since it seems you know this neighborhood. I have a true and hilarous (sp?) short story for you.

                                Right across the street from that large fire house:
                                How many people does it take to park a car in La Jolla?
                                Four
                                One to stand in the parking spot farthest away from the curb as soon as the car leaves so no one else can pull in (this was me)
                                Second person to stand in the street and stop and block traffic coming from the west
                                Third person to stand in the west bound lane and direct our friend into the spot
                                Fourth to drive in the car

                                Now I am laughing and cannot stop. Exactly 18 years ago my son had a birthday party to go to at that fire station. The rest is history and it is true.

                                Night, Lindy

                          2. I don't know if anyone's heard of this place because it was a hole in the wall, but AJ's subs in sorrento valley has closed down. Their sandwiches were alright, nothing too special and the restaurant was just an old submarina that had been converted since the owner was trying to make it an independently owned sandwich shop.

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                            1. re: Superstorm

                              hehe I think it has been at least a year since that place closed

                            2. Randy Jones Sports Grill in Hazard Center is closing down on 5/31/2014. Hazard Center can't seem to get a win.

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                              1. re: MrKrispy

                                Not really shocked. We used to stay at that Red Lion 20+ years ago, before we moved down here, and it was so dead at night save for the movie theaters that were there. I think now it might even be worse with Fashion Valley being so much more the destination place than it was back then. They probably got a decent lunch crowd, but after that... Also I wonder if the sports grill/bar thing is now on its way out.

                                1. re: littlestevie

                                  "Also I wonder if the sports grill/bar thing is now on its way out."

                                  Sort of - Tilted Kilt is scraping up all the remains.

                                  1. re: RB Hound

                                    Yeah there aren't too many sports bars in SD. Seau's seemed to be popular. No idea how the chicken wing restaurant in its place is doing.

                                    1. re: globocity

                                      Hi globocity,

                                      I read they turned Seau's Restaurant into a church? Are you talking about Seau's in Mission Valley?

                                      Lindy

                                2. re: MrKrispy

                                  There's a big sports bar that just opened there in the space that used to be a (pretty good) Italian restaurant at Hazard Center some years back. The Ut says this was the Waterloo for Randy Jones. I don't think there's a shortage of people looking for a sports bar in that area.

                                  1. re: DoctorChow

                                    BJ's opened in the space that was originally Prego's and then became Carlos Santana's Maria Maria.

                                    BJ's is easily visible from Friars Rd. and Hazard Center Dr. The space that Randy Jones is in was tucked back into a far corner of the complex and unless you know there is a restaurant there, you won't see it very well or know it's there.

                                    1. re: DiningDiva

                                      Thanks for filling in the blanks, DD.

                                      Ahh yes, Pregos. I liked the food there and the service was terrific.

                                      Never went into Maria Maria, and was not thrilled to see it become BJ's either.

                                      1. re: DoctorChow

                                        To be specific, BJs razed what was the Prego's/Maria Maria building and put up something new. BJs isn't really a sports bar as much as a "sports restaurant". Though they do have some bar seating, for the most part it is dining tables.

                                        I fondly remember Prego's of 13 years ago, but near its end it got very average quickly, with the service slipping as well.

                                        1. re: RB Hound

                                          Yes, you are quite correct, BJs pretty much tore down the old structure and started over.

                                    2. re: DoctorChow

                                      Hi Doc,

                                      I finally figured out how to get to another thread.

                                      You and Diva and BeachChick and Krispy and Foodie and Fake Name and so many others. You are everywhere. You are the Gods of Chow!! Thanks all of you, this is so fun.

                                      That Italian place was Prego, I think. Big restaurant right when you pulled into the shopping center.

                                      EDIT: Ah, now I am reading further down and I see it was already answered. Sorry..

                                      Night, Lindy

                                  2. The Cohn Group's La Jolla Strip Club (sister restaurant of the Gaslamp Strip Club) - grill your own steak places (not burlesque entertainment), will be closed. Apparently the concept wasn't working too well in the UTC, which shocks me little. A casual place with a "craft beer focus" will likely replace it. Sounds sort of like...Eureka Burger...

                                    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/a...

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                                    1. re: RB Hound

                                      RB, were you being facetious about the craft beer and burger joint or is that what is really going in?

                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                        From the article:

                                        "While the company is still working on the specifics of what will replace the space, Cohn did reveal that it would have a casual vibe, a craft beer focus and a new menu, but no 'grilling your own steaks.'"

                                        Probably a little more upscale than a Eureka, but having a varied draft/craft selection is par for the course these days.

                                        1. re: RB Hound

                                          And here is their new menu:

                                          Starters:

                                          - Some kind of fries
                                          - Some kind of poutine
                                          - Some kind of sliders
                                          - Some kind of beet and goat salad
                                          - Some kind of "Caesars Salad"
                                          - Some kind of steak salad
                                          - Some kind of wings
                                          - Some kind of shrimps
                                          - Some kind of mussels
                                          - 1-2 soups (including chowder)
                                          - Some kind of flatbread

                                          Entrees:

                                          - Multiple variations on burgers (including vegan burger)
                                          - Some variation on ahi sandwich
                                          - Some variation on sesame crusted ahi
                                          - Some variation on tacos
                                          - Fish and Chips
                                          - Some variation on meatloaf
                                          - Some variation on braised short ribs
                                          - Some variation on grilled cheese
                                          - Some variation on hot dog
                                          - Some variation on steak and frites

                                          And multiple, multiple variations of beers from our local breweries

                                          Time to take a rope and look for the next tree

                                          1. re: honkman

                                            I cannot imagine you are that disappointed; for some odd reason, I don't see the Costa Verde plaza being your type of place. Even so, not to worry - you can always go to Roy's, 5 Guys, Sammy's, Chipotle Express, the Greek place, or the Bristol Farms cafeteria.

                                            1. re: RB Hound

                                              My disappointment is more that it seems that this menu seems to be the starting point for >90% of all restaurants in SD

                                            2. re: honkman

                                              Sadly, that does seem to be the menu template for nearly every restaurant in town :-(

                                            3. re: RB Hound

                                              Hi,

                                              Is Debra going to be their chef there? I just read today or yesterday her brie is going to be in our local Coscos now for a while. The Santee one was not on the list, however.

                                              L

                                        2. Wet Willies. Closed. Tragic.

                                            1. re: Dagney

                                              That's too bad, but I can see how they might not have been the best fit for the Gaslamp as it is. In many ways, I'm surprised they held on as long as they did.

                                              I am completely drawing a blank - where were they before moving to the Gaslamp?

                                              1. re: RB Hound

                                                Before the Gaslamp? Not sure....their most recent space was on 6th Avenue, just south of F Street.

                                                I know rent had something to do with it's demise, which is heartbreaking. Chopahn was one of the few restaurants in the Gaslamp that was truly a small business. The owner was the host EVERY night, and sometimes he was your waiter to, depending on the day of the week. He kept a high standard of a classy, polite dining experience with excellent food.

                                                Ah well....I'm sure there is a "small plates" room lurking in the waters....bring on the craft cocktails for the babies who can't handle a scotch neat.

                                                1. re: Dagney

                                                  Of course, the Eater answers the question for me. It was in the UTC area (which was why I was probably so familiar with it), in the Renaissance Towne Center. I think they were in the spot now occupied by Villa Capri (which I believe was occupied by Barola Ristorante many years before that).

                                                  1. re: RB Hound

                                                    A friend told me the owner is in Italy with family right now, so hopefully he will start a new venture when he returns. I vote for something in East County. sigh.....like THAT's gonna happen.

                                            2. The Steakhouse Azul in La Jolla is no more:

                                              http://sandiego.eater.com/archives/20...

                                              Bought out by Donovan's, giving them a relatively short distance to move when they lose their UTC lease.

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                                                1. re: foodiechick

                                                  I'm thinking of David Byrne telling us "same as it ever was..."

                                                2. re: RB Hound

                                                  Is somebody going blow out that UTC space?

                                                  1. re: littlestevie

                                                    Maybe Rusty Pelican will return. [Yeah, right.] It's where I met my companion -- in 1988.

                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                      WOW. Rusty Pelican. An epic blast from the past. So 80's. So...Golden Triangle.

                                                      1. re: Dagney

                                                        Maybe they can bring back the laser beams, too.

                                                        1. re: Dagney

                                                          There was a Rusty Pelican in PB in the 90s as well. When I had family come out from the midwest they saw it thinking it screamed "fresh seafood!"....instead it was a Red Lobster in TGIF clothing.

                                                          1. re: MrKrispy

                                                            Wow, you lit up another memory. Next to Crystal Pier, right? I remember going there for a holiday brunch with out of town visitors and thinking that it was a waste of a view, but strangely apropos there.

                                                            1. re: beantowntitletown

                                                              Yup, that was it. I took them to the original PB Alehouse (where Skechers is now) and that salvaged the night.

                                                        2. re: DoctorChow

                                                          Rusty Pelican...wow, haven't thought of them in years!

                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                            Is that a chain? I seem to remember a Rusty Pelican in Phoenix when I lived there in the 90's.

                                                            1. re: Saabiar

                                                              Yes, I think it was. I seem to recall on in Marina del Rey

                                                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                Yes, it was. There was one in Mission Valley where Lazy Dog Cafe is now. I remember going there in the late 90's.

                                                          2. re: DoctorChow

                                                            Thanks for the memory jog, DoctorChow. I worked across the way in the Emerald City for 5 yrs in the 90s and have been racking my puny brain lately trying to remember what wss in that space before Donovan's.

                                                            1. re: DoctorChow

                                                              Hi Doc,

                                                              Right after Rusty Pelican MV closed (boy did they have a good weekend brunch), Cesear's opened there. The origional was where City deli is now. My mom ate there when she was a girl. One of my 5 favorite all time restaurants. Really. Then they opened at Grossmont Center where Red Lobster is now, then they took over where the MV Rusty Pelican was. I was a HAPPY camper. I ate there since I was 3 and I can remember.(at the origional one) Probably longer, but I can only remember back to when I was 3. In my late teens and early 20's, I ate there 2 or 3 times a week, at the Grossmont one. When they all closed that was a sad sad day for me. I would pay $100 for a plate of their spag. today. Anybody have any idea how to duplicate that delicious brownish spag. sauce they had?

                                                              Sadly, Lindy

                                                        3. Ciro's in Pacific Beach closed this past weekend. The soon-to-open Iron Pig Alehouse has the same owner, so perhaps the closure is related to that.

                                                          Ciro's had a new ownership posting on the door for a while with a the business name "Crushed". I found this website:

                                                          http://barcrushed.com

                                                          No idea on the status, or whether it is even still happening, though.

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                                                            1. re: Fake Name

                                                              Ciro's was sort of a craft beer place, so this is a zero sum gain. They're just trading in pizza for BBQ in the long run.

                                                            2. re: menuinprogress

                                                              Looking at the website, they really out to just call it "Crashed" since the concept is essentially early 2000s.

                                                              Besides, "Crushed" gives every impression of wine.

                                                            3. Not necessarily closed but, I saw a permit sign up at the Night Owl,in PB, stating 'new owners'. I hope they don't ruin the ambiance. Got and info BC.

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                                                              1. re: cstr

                                                                Sledgie dearest. .
                                                                Why would I have a smidgen of info on the Night Owl in PB?
                                                                I haven't been there since Pete Wilson was GOV of CA!
                                                                It does rock the dive bar meter but will never live up to Pac Shores in OB.

                                                                Plus, whatcha doing slumming in that part of PB?

                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                  I gravitate to the comfort of a good draft PBR in a dark environment. Wilson, my that's like it was just yesterday. Slumming is my life!

                                                                  1. re: cstr

                                                                    'Slumming is my life'. .somehow Sledge, I don't see you as a slumming kind of guy.
                                                                    The socio-economic meter is in your 1% wheelhouse but that is when you can enjoy and embrace the slum..

                                                                    I love a dark environment with burgundy naugahyde booths to enjoy a good draft but I would prefer a Primo/Stella/Modelo...also, a chilled relish tray of crudités too.

                                                                    Now, I want to go to some place like Bully's and have a cheeseburger, medium rare and a cold beer!

                                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                      Bully's, definitely old school but, far from slumming. Ah, it's an OK burger, I like that they give you an option for a salad. And yes, I can certainly tip a Dom with imported Stilton on a toast point anytme in my well adorned wheelhouse! I will never forget my roots.

                                                                      1. re: cstr

                                                                        When you lose sight of where you came from, you lose sight of where you’re going.

                                                                        LOVE that you haven't lost sight of your heritage and it has molded you into a wonderful soul of a man that you've become.

                                                                        You're lucky you know where your roots are. .I'm adopted and I would give anything, to know where my roots are planted.

                                                                        1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                          +1 on that first sentence.

                                                                          Not growing up with your parents is tough. My companion of 26 years never knew her dad and was orphaned at age 9. Still, she's very proud of her Mexican roots. I guess what I'm trying to say (and having a horrible time trying to express it) is that I can empathize with you, at least in a limited and indirect way.

                                                                          1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                            Hi Doc,

                                                                            I agree and disagree with you on that first sentence. If we know who WE are, then we will never lose sight of where we are going.
                                                                            Not growing up with your parents is REAL tough. Very tough.

                                                                            Best, Lindy

                                                                          2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                            Hi Chick,

                                                                            I am not adopted and would love to know where my roots are planted. The whole history of both my parents (still together) has been hidden and dismissed from me my whole life. I would give anything too. I know very little, some, not anything that matters. I know the names of their parents, nothing else. I am sorry you didn't get the info you so desire.

                                                                            L

                                                                  2. re: cstr

                                                                    When I came out here in the summer of 1999 to look for a place to live, I stayed at what is now the La Quinta on Balboa at De Sota (it was a Best Western back then). The first bar that I visited in San Diego, ever, was the Night Owl. I also visited what is now Dave's Tavern (can't remember if it was called that back then) and the Silver Fox.

                                                                  3. Hi,

                                                                    My favorite Chinese Restaurant up and closed, La China in Tierrasanta. They had just celebrated their 19 anniversary. Every year in November they had a special 3 night buffet to celebrate their anniversary. Something we looked forward to every year. It was the best. I knew the owner, all the waiters thru the years. La China had great food, very fresh veggies, and they would accomadate you in any way they could. No MSG ever. Great sauces. So right after the buffet, they just closed the doors on Dec.1 2013. The next day the place was empty, no booths, no tables, no anything, gone. No notice, even the employees didn't know. There is another La China in El Cajon but it has a different owner and the food quality is bad, no comparison.

                                                                    Lindy

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                                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                                      John T. Tarantino's.......Lubauc's.......the OG butcher shop in Chula Vista ,,,where everything was for sale...... And yes pernicanos, now those 4 places help build this city. What I mean is more deals were made at these places then in city hall.

                                                                      1. re: bluefin2na

                                                                        Hi, The Butcher Shop is Chula Vista. Ah yes, those red booths. Sure must have taken a long time to make those. And the steaks. YUM. I would like one right now. Filet, med. rare please.
                                                                        L

                                                                    2. Amici's in Hillcrest is gone. Their prices were high for ordinary pizza and stiff competition nearby (Bronx, Project Pie, East Coast Pizza, etc.). If a restaurant wants to survive on that part of Fifth Ave, they need to offer something unique at a good price point (look at the wait for Snooze on weekends).

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                                                                      1. re: Green_Turtle

                                                                        Wow, that was fast! Not that surprised that it failed, still scratch my head that the LJ location has hung in there for so long.

                                                                        1. re: Green_Turtle

                                                                          Hi Turtle,

                                                                          I don't thing bronx is everything everybody is wowing about. Never understood.

                                                                          L

                                                                          1. re: Green_Turtle

                                                                            I wouldn't say Snooz has a good price point- unless you're an investor. I like the place, but it's no bargain.

                                                                            1. re: Fake Name

                                                                              Hi Guys,

                                                                              Okay, Here's another. Cotton Patch right off Rosecrans. By what is now the post office, across the street. I wrote about this once, but that was before I knew what I was doing and I think I deleted it.

                                                                              It was big, and very, very, dark. I was taken there when I was about 10 the first time. It was a 'grown up restaurant' I couldn't understand why it was so dark. The dressing on the salad was amazing. Garlic!!! I guess that is really all I have to say, creamy garlic. Boy, I would love to have that again. Large restaurant. Great steaks. Anybody remember this place?

                                                                              L

                                                                              1. re: LindyN

                                                                                Yes.

                                                                                Rumor was Boll Weevil started by grinding the trim from the steaks and chops at Cotton Patch.

                                                                                But you know rumor.

                                                                                1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                  Hey Name,

                                                                                  Are you pulling my leg? What are you really saying, sorry, I don't speak code. Did you ever eat at Cotton Patch?

                                                                                  L

                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                    FN is a master of wry humor, Lindy.

                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                      Thanks Doc,

                                                                                      I didn't get it : )
                                                                                      My son is like that but I know that in advance. Hey Name, I'm ready for you now, Just give me your best steak..........

                                                                                      L

                                                                                        1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                          Hi, I'll take the rye any day. Thanks doc. And how does Ms. name put up with you. You are quite a character. Thanks for the smiles.
                                                                                          Have a great day, Lindy

                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                        FN is not pulling your leg. He has very deep SD roots too.

                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                          Hi Diva,

                                                                                          Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well. He is pulling my leg. Let's just see. This is all so fun.

                                                                                          Bye, Lindy

                                                                                        2. re: LindyN

                                                                                          Chains may be yanked, but legs are never pulled.

                                                                                          But seriously folks, YES that was the urban lore- Boll Weevil (the hamburger joint) was alleged to have started with the ground trimmings from Cotton Patch prime meat.

                                                                                          I've heard the same story about Rory's a hamburger joint on Mission Gorge Road that was allegedly started on the trimmings from Iowa Meat Farms. Perhaps more interesting- Rory's was the first restaurant i the chain known now as the Cohn Restaurant Group.

                                                                                          Cohn Restaurant Group is also said to be owners of both Iowa Meat Farms and Siesels.

                                                                                          My roots cannot be that deep here- I'm a mere youth.

                                                                                          1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                            I'm a mere youth...now you are pulling legs.

                                                                                            Not so much on the boll weevil trimmings rumor, that one is true...double checked with youthful husband who confirmed. Also, according to him, SD UT was across the street from Dobson's/Press Club...where the NBC building is now.

                                                                                            1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                              @FN: I actually thought you were kidding about the ground trimmings from Cotton Patch. That'll teach me not to assume rye humor.

                                                                                              1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                Ha, that IS NOW really funny : )

                                                                                                Foodie, What did the UT have to do with it? I couldn't put that put that one/clue together here?

                                                                                                L

                                                                                              2. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                Hi again Name,

                                                                                                I was thinking more about what you wrote about Boll Weevil this morning. Are you refering to the Boll Weevil , Shelter Island? Was that the first one? Or which one do you think was the first one, do you figure? Cotton Patch sure was close to there.

                                                                                                And the more I was thinking about Rory's, the more I was remembering. The place was real 'spiffed out' And yes, I remember stuff about there, now. Wouldn't you say that was the 'test run' for what we now know as Corvette Diner?

                                                                                                L

                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                  I might say that, but I'd be guessing.

                                                                                                  Yes, similar theme and same owner, and Rory's proceeded the Corvette Diner. Not sure if they still serve it, but the RoryBurger featured peanut butter, and was suprisingly good.

                                                                                                  The Boll Weevil had a spot across the parking lot from Cotton Patch in that blighted hell known as the "Midway District" near what was once the Mother Post Office, which has since moved out of San Diego.

                                                                                                  The UT was a hub of downtown San Diego, and its employees supported the surrounding businesses, including 10 Downing Street, a reporter's bar straight from His Gal Friday. I visited the UT as a very very young child, and unfortunately skipped the tour of said bar, but I'll bet MrFoodiechick has a few stories to tell.

                                                                                                  San Diego's downtown fell into disrepair, and among the major stumbling stones (yes, I blended that metaphor) was the exit of the UT to Mission Valley. Horton Plaza became The International Hub of the San Diego Public Transportation System, and reflected the caliber of public transport in our city. The especially low caliber, that is.

                                                                                                  Horton Plaza was resurrected in 1982-ish by a sweetheart redevelopment deal with San Diego's unelected mayor, Ernie Hahn (I do consider it a redevelopment success, sweetheart as it might have been) who built a now rough-around-the-edges shopping mall in which many shoopers still wander since 1982, trying to find their cars in the Fruit Vegetable parking lot. Did they consider tomato level a fruit?

                                                                                                  It's MrsName's privilege to share life with me, and she considers herself one of the luckiest women on planet Earth. And perhaps beyond.

                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                    Hi Name,

                                                                                                    I was at Corvette last June for my daughter's Birthday. Her pick, of course. We sat in the Black Light Room, her pick, again. I don't know about the peanut butter burger, but, I would guess.....

                                                                                                    Ha, I couldn't stand it and had to look it up. YES, they have it and it is called the Rory Burger. Look at you, I am really impressed. I mean, wow. Peanut butter on a burger. And we have come full circle. We all (my family)(except my son) love something that is not on the menu anymore. They will still make it for us all though. Spag and chili three way. It used to on the menu a long, long time ago, and then they took it off. It is so WAY good. Funny, in June when we went there, our waitress was really cute, as usual. (I don't mean looks, I mean charm) And then we ordered. And she said, I remember you. You sat over there, pointing to the next room over, a particular booth. And I remembered her then. She said, I didn't know they would make that, and then they did for you. Ya know, If you are nice, and smile, and are polite, any place will make you anything. Ah, life is good.

                                                                                                    Thanks for writing back. Yes, I remember that Boll Weevil now. It opened way before Shelter Island. We used to eat there. It had the same Red outside though. Red paint. Back then, it wasn't that blighted of a neighborhood, I don't think, in, maybe, 1963 1965?? or so?

                                                                                                    My mom knew Ernie. I have wasted many hours, many days. wandering around looking for my produce. Why on earth did they do that. I mean, really? Was it meant as a mean joke?

                                                                                                    And I did catch the metaphor. Thank you. I am getting used to your rye humor now that I have been forewarned. And I will always have my rye with corned beef please. Oh, I didn't know we had public transportation in our city, I must have missed the memo.

                                                                                                    I am sure it is MrsNames joy to have a guy like you, who loves food so much, and be able to talk about it and share it with you. EDIT By the way, You are the lucky one to have her. I bet she has a great smile. My dad makes that same comment.....and perhaps beyond.

                                                                                                    Now, I am going to veer off topic for just a sec. My moderator doesn't like me to, but I can't help it. When I was very young.... We had to DRESS UP big time to go downtown shopping. It was a big deal. There weren't really any 'malls' as we know them today. So it was a Big Deal to go downtown. I had on a fancy dress, we shopped and got a fantastic lunch out.

                                                                                                    Thanks for reminding me of that Boll Weevil by the Cotton Patch. I didn't remember it, until I just read what you had written.

                                                                                                    Best, Lindy

                                                                                                      1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                        Hi Doc,
                                                                                                        Are you talking to me?
                                                                                                        Thank you if you are.
                                                                                                        I spent a lot of time on here all night so far, writing quite a few posts.
                                                                                                        I did edit some a little . I am like that, neurotic, more thoughts come.
                                                                                                        I never could have experienced any of this fun without you mentoring/teaching me. Thank you for your time invested. REALLY !!! Mr. Name, he is a tough one, but I am getting to know him, thanks to you, and boy does he know a lot of history, not just SD restaurants, SD in general. What fun to read.
                                                                                                        What was your answer about the pizza? How do I do it?
                                                                                                        Take care, Lindy

                                                                                                        1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                          Yes, my comment was about your post. I abbreviated LindyN as LN.

                                                                                                  2. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                    Hi Name,

                                                                                                    I meant to ask you about this, Siesels? Never heard of this place. Is it a restaurant? Then or now? Or a butcher? or what? Thanks,

                                                                                                    My lovely moderator pulled my post about Iowa Meat. I was off topic, my fault. They are a wonderful place and do special things for my mom. Great quality meat!

                                                                                                    Lindy

                                                                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                      Iowa Meat Farms and Seisels have the same owners. http://iowameatfarms.com

                                                                                                      Perhaps you are getting posts pulled because *this* thread is about San Diego restaurants which closed in 2014. Moderators of a forum try to keep the topic concise, which is why there are rules.

                                                                                                      You had been commenting on another thread which was about 'Who is familiar with 'old' San Diego restaurants?' http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/772159

                                                                                        3. Mama Testa is closing.
                                                                                          Maybe just moving.

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                                                                                          1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                            According to their FB page they are opening another location

                                                                                            1. re: honkman

                                                                                              Hi honkman, Who? Where? Are you speaking of Cotton Patch? Please tell me yes, and I can eat that delicious salad and dressing again. Let alone the perfect steak. L

                                                                                              1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                Honkman is speaking of Mama Testa the taco joint up on Univeristy near Richmond in Hillcrest.

                                                                                                I think they're just moving and from the looks of the photos they've released, it looks like there might actually be parking!!

                                                                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                  According to Eater: Though official word hasn't been released, we're hearing the new location is in Mira Mesa and that they will reopen in two to three months.

                                                                                                  1. re: honkman

                                                                                                    Gourmet and expensive tacos from San Diego's urban and upscale core to......Mira Mesa. Good luck with that.

                                                                                                    1. re: MrKrispy

                                                                                                      Not sure if I would call the tacos expensive for the amount and quality you get at Mama Testa. In addition Mira Mesa has some other restaurants with similar or higher prices, e.g. Siam Nara which are very popular. I think Mama Testa might have a better chance to survive in Mira mesa than Hillcrest

                                                                                                      1. re: MrKrispy

                                                                                                        I wonder where in Mira Mesa, hopefully west or central: east of the 15 seems to be a serious damper on customer traffic.

                                                                                                        If it's not east, it's 20 minutes closer to my house than the current spot, and we probably won't have to circle the block(s) a bunch of times to find a spot within walking distance, like in Hillcrest.

                                                                                                        1. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                          East of the 15 is usually considered Scripps Ranch. The problem with the west end of Mira Mesa bordering on Sorrento Mesa is that while it is busy at lunch, after the workers go home it is dead at night. The one exception that I found is Karl Strauss, it seems to stay busy later.

                                                                                                          1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                            I consider it to be Scripps Ranch, too, but you'd be surprised how often I'd run across some restaurant review talking about a great-sounding place I hadn't seen, and then noting it was Eot15 in the strip mall of doom or across the street in the Trader Joe's area.

                                                                                                            I live in the Sorrento Mesa area and haunt the streets of the dead at night. Wich Addiction opened for evenings this summer, I read about it on their site, planned my attack (was getting food for the whole family), and when I got there it was closed. Seems they never bothered to tell anyone in Pacific Ridge or other western enclaves that they were open for dinner, and stopped doing it a day before I went.

                                                                                                            You know that feeling when you know exactly what you're going to eat, having been thinking about it all day, your blood sugar is dropping and the restaurant is closed? And you're so hungry you can't even figure out what Plan B is? Yeah, I was grumpy.

                                                                                                          2. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                            There always seems to be restaurants opening and closing in the Center area just left of the Mira Mesa Blvd. - Camino Ruiz intersection.

                                                                                                            That's sort of a strange closing - suppose that their rent is being jacked?

                                                                                                            1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                              Isn't the dive bar next to Mama Testa also going out. Alibi Bar? I thought I read that somewhere...or maybe they were just renovating, but who in their right mind renovates a dive...

                                                                                                              I would suspect rent as the major culprit, along with lack of easy parking and a changing customer base at that end of University.

                                                                                                              I'd prefer MT to be closer to MM Blvd. & Black Mtn :-)

                                                                                                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                But I am wondering if the rents in Mira Mesa are also increasing quite rapidly - El Maguey (our Mexican for take out) and China Chef 2 in the shopping mall corner of MM Blvd. & Black Mtn just closed in August because they couldn't afford the rent increase anymore.

                                                                                                                1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                  Raze the Red Lobster at MM & CRuiz, and make room for two new restaurants...

                                                                                                                  1. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                                    Well OG it loooks like Mama Testa is going in off of Black Mountain Rd. So it is El Torito for you. Hey at least the Red Lobster is an improvement. IIRC it used to be the dumpiest Black Angus ever, and that was quite a feat

                                                                                                                    1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                      I found that article, but it doesn't identify which strip mall it is (4 possibilities). Perhaps a good place for it - I dunno. Might be a risk.

                                                                                                                      1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                        So I see:
                                                                                                                        http://www.discoversd.com/news/2014/o...

                                                                                                                        Well, it's still a heckova lot closer than Hillcrest, and we can take the back street Capricorn route if MM Blvd is too nasty.

                                                                                                                        I look forward to welcoming Mama Testa to the 'hood.

                                                                                                                        1. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                                          Oh...my...god...Black Mountain & Mira Mesa, almost walking distance from work. I'm assuming he's not going into the Vallarta space, but there are other possibilities. The article does say tons of parking and a patio. Wonder if it's the one kitty-korner from Vallarta.

                                                                                                                          Mashed potato tacos here I come :-D And look out Patron...

                                                                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                            El Maguey has been completely gutted. My guess is Mama Testa is taking over that space. Behind the Wells Fargo at Black Mountain and Mira Mesa.

                                                                                                                            Walkable from work :-)

                                                                                                                            1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                              That's going to be just horrible, DiningDiva. Horrible... Mama Testa's or Fresh MXN? Such a difficult choice.

                                                                                                                              1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                                                Between QT Pot and Mama Testa, we're going to be visiting that lot on a fairly regular basis, I think.

                                                                                                                                1. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                                                  Have you tried QT Pot? I saw it when I drove into that parking lot this morning.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                    Been there once, so far. Would eat again. Nothing fancy, but solid and not expensive. We almost went back last night, but got sidetracked.

                                                                                                                                  2. re: The Office Goat

                                                                                                                                    Hi Goat,

                                                                                                                                    What is QT Pot? please. And do you think when the new MT opens, because he thinks he is a tv star, the food will change much? And I am not asking about the prices. I mean redesigning the menu? He certainly will have to upscale some, a little? Ideas?

                                                                                                                                    L

                                                                                                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                      I doubt he thinks he is a tv star and also why should he redesign the menu when it was well established and though out. The main reason why he is moving away from Hillcredt are the significantly rising rents compared to places like Mira Mesa
                                                                                                                                      And QT
                                                                                                                                      pot is a new hot pot place in the same shopping mall which took over the old China Chef 2 location

                                                                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                        Being a TV star is the furthest thing from Caesar's mind. The food won't change, in fact, I expect it to actually get better. Mama Testa was started with one premise in mind...TACOS. There are a couple of non-taco things on the menu, but I seriously doubt that Caesar will abandon that business model. I'm also pretty sure there are no plans to clone MT around town.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                          "I'm also pretty sure there are no plans to clone MT around town."

                                                                                                                                          Oh, darn. Because I was going to nominate a great location for the first clone.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                            I could be wrong, but MT was in their original location for 10 years and didn't begat little Mamacita Testas around town then. As far as I've heard, nothings changed...

                                                                                                                                            (But never say never...)

                                                                                                                              1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                                Ah, great - another honored San Diego restaurant for honkman to end up shredding.

                                                                                                                                :)

                                                                                                                                Seriously, this is on the outer fringes of my lunch radius - I'll definitely be all over that shortly after they open.

                                                                                                                              2. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                Hi Stevie,

                                                                                                                                You mention El Torito. Maybe I am late, anybody know who is taking over the El Torito location in Mission Valley?

                                                                                                                                L

                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                  I was making a joke about the El Torito on Mira Mesa in the Target center. The Black Angus was across the street where the Red Lobster is now. Really don't venture much into MV anymore.

                                                                                                                            2. re: honkman

                                                                                                                              Ah, El Maguey. That was my first carne asada when I moved to SD in 2002. Sorry to hear it's closed.

                                                                                                                              1. re: Divamac

                                                                                                                                El Maguey actually moved to Poway.

                                                                                                                              2. re: honkman

                                                                                                                                Wow. I didn't realize China Chef was gone.

                                                                                                                                I hadn't been there in a while, but they were pretty decent and a whole lot closer to where I live than Convoy.

                                                                                                                        2. re: MrKrispy

                                                                                                                          Hi Krispy,

                                                                                                                          When MT was on FoodNetwork, they were not expensive. And the salsa bar was nice. I don't know if fame got the best of them, I wanted to write, got the price of them. I think maybe the fame went to the wallet? What do you think?

                                                                                                                          Lindy

                                                                                                                        3. re: honkman

                                                                                                                          Thanks honkman for the update. My daughter lived in MM for quite some time. Until she went back to college in Aug. She had a really good fav. Mex place there, not far off the frwy. I bet Mama Testa will beat them all.
                                                                                                                          L

                                                                                                                        4. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                          Hi Diva,

                                                                                                                          For a minute, I got my hopes up. Parking is always a good thing.

                                                                                                                          L

                                                                                                                        5. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                          I am replying to the comment from FN that Mama Testa is closing in Hillcrest. (On the top right of every post you can click to see the original post.)

                                                                                                                            1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                              You're catching on Lindy. But what Honkman actually meant to say is that by clicking on the name in the upper right corner of any post, you can highlight the earlier post that that specific reply is addressing.

                                                                                                                              That's not the same as an "original post", which most people on CH abbreviate as "OP", referring either to the post itself or the person who posted it. The "original post" of any thread is the one that was posted first to start the thread, the one that's separated at the very top and has the bold thread title.

                                                                                                                              So when you eventually do start a thread about Nazac, for example, your initial post (and, also, you) will be the "OP" of that thread.

                                                                                                                              Anyway, I sure wish Mama Testa had decided to move to the Bay Park / CM West area...

                                                                                                                              1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                Hi Guys,

                                                                                                                                Let's start the engines............

                                                                                                                                The Big Yellow House. La Mesa. Which later turned into Hungry Hunter. We have already discussed HH. The Big Yellow, well, so cute for such a big house. I can remember when they built that one. There were others, one in National City, I believe, and more. Great fried chicken. I loved how they did it all 'family style', very good side dishes. In the beginning, the first years, they could never keep up, meaning, you could get/order as much fried chicken as you wanted, but the kitchen couldn't do it/couldn't keep up. Was that their downfall? What do you remember?

                                                                                                                                Best, Lindy

                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                  Lindy, another hint. This particular sub-tread is three levels down from a post on October 8 by FN that starts with "Mama Testa is closing". The sub-thread is about that.

                                                                                                                                  Your post a few minutes ago that starts with "Hi Guys" is about The Big Yellow House and really should be a reply to the OP, since it's on a new subject related to the thread. (It shouldn't be a reply to me, in other words.) Doing so would put it at the first reply level, justified on the far left of the thread.

                                                                                                                                  How to reply to the OP? Go to the VERY TOP of the thread. In this case, that's "San Diego Closed Restaurants: Thread Four - 2014", posted by Honkman on Feb. 27. Click on the "reply" that's UP THERE, and post.

                                                                                                                                  BUT: If The Big Yellow House didn't close during 2014 (hint, hint), this overall thread is the wrong one for your post about it in the first place. In that case, you should have replied to the OP of the "who's familiar with old restaurants" thread, NOT this one.

                                                                                                                                2. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                  Hi Doc,

                                                                                                                                  I think, if MT, holds up their boot straps and succeeds (sp?) then he will open more. So we can only hope! For OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. But don't you think Mira Mesa was a weird place to start to play with the 'big boys'? But on the other hand, very big population there, working group for lunch, and the living there group for dinner. I am thinking about this.
                                                                                                                                  Best, Lindy

                                                                                                                                  And as always, thanks for the tips!

                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                    Well, I assume MT has done their demographics homework, and I'm happy for the people who live/work in that area. Now, if it were up to me, I wouldn't have started in MM... ;)

                                                                                                                                    Hope you're right about them opening additional locations if things work out!

                                                                                                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                      Actually, Mira Mesa isn't that strange a place. Lots of Asian, very little Mexican. If I am right about MT going into the old El Maguey space, the new place will be right on the corner of one of the busiest intersections in SD...Black Mountain & Mira Mesa. There are 3 strip malls on 4 of the corners all of which are high volume places.

                                                                                                                                      Different location, different customer base. Mama Testa may do better in this location than Hillcrest

                                                                                                                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                        It might. There may be a *very* strong customer base from about 5 miles east of there, if you get my drift.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                                                          And an even strong customer base from 2 blocks away on the Miramar campus ;-)

                                                                                                                                          1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                                                            Hi Hound,

                                                                                                                                            Sorry, I don't get the 'drift' of 5 miles away. What do you mean?

                                                                                                                                            Diva, MM has so many prople working there, during the day, and so many living there after they get home from work. Well, unless you food is horrid, you could make a go of it. My daughter lived there for over 3 years, but I am not really familiar with this exact location.
                                                                                                                                            L

                                                                                                                                              1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                                                                Sorry Hound,

                                                                                                                                                What does Qualcomm have to do with it. Maybe they have a big building up there?
                                                                                                                                                I went to 'school with his daughter' Boy she met the great guy and turned it into an empire. the restaurants I mean.
                                                                                                                                                L

                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                  Qualcomm is one of the largest employers (it might be even the largest non-government one) in SD and with many, many different buildings in the Mira Mesa/Sorrento Valley area (in addition there are many spin offs/start ups from former Qualcomm employees in this area). Many Qualcomm employees are looking for good lunch options in this area and shops like Mama Testa will fill this need. So Qualcomm might be the key difference for Mama Testa to survive in Mira Mesa.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                                                    You think so? I think Blk Mtn & Mira Mesa is kind of far to go for lunch

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                      I heard that once a restaurant has build up a good reputation the Qualcomm people are willing to drive a bit - apparently 8 Elements (across the street) seems to be quite popular. Once Mama testa opens Caesar should advertise around the different Qualcomm compuses - "If you build it, they will come"

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                                                        Could be. Plus Mira Mesa Blvd. is easier to drive than Miramar Rd.

                                                                                                                          1. According to Eater Maitre'd is closing. Did anybody ever go to this restaurant ?

                                                                                                                            3 Replies
                                                                                                                            1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                              Went one time a few years ago, simply out of curiosity. Curiosity killed the cat.

                                                                                                                              They positioned themselves as a kind of European, special occasion place (I think one of the partners was Austrian), and that was the kind of dining groups we encountered: older families and couples tripping down memory lane. The decor looked like a rich aunt's parlor, the service was overly attentive and the food was forgettable.

                                                                                                                              Oddly, they took photos of every dining party that you could come back to pick up (5" x 10") a couple of days later.

                                                                                                                              I think the two gentlemen that run it are partners and live in the second story of the building. Not sure if they own the property or not.

                                                                                                                              1. re: foodiechick

                                                                                                                                We went there on a comp from our kitchen designer, when we built our home and it was a full comp of whatever we wanted...well, that is danger for the person picking up the tab!

                                                                                                                                It was like a rich Aunt's Parlor in Paris and I recall one of the owners was Austrian and a really nice guy.

                                                                                                                                Food was good..and I remember I had this liqueur that was frozen flowers in ice and whatever was filled with was fantastic.

                                                                                                                                I don't recall them taking pics of our party..boy, I'd like to see those beauties.

                                                                                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                  Hey Chick,

                                                                                                                                  My other post got yanked. Comps are always wonderful

                                                                                                                                  L

                                                                                                                            2. When the doors close tonight at Bale in Linda Vista, it'll be for the last time. They're moving to...Mira Mesa! No signed lease yet, but that's where they'll be, with the same name.

                                                                                                                              Sad for me because it was the only Vietnamese place around with sa te dishes, like mi sa te bo (or ga) and hu tieu sa te ca, one of my favorites there.

                                                                                                                              I'm going to miss them in LV.

                                                                                                                              5 Replies
                                                                                                                              1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                Not sure if they are associated but there is already a Bale in Mira Mesa for the last several years - was once pretty good for the Banh Mi but quality started to decline about two years ago

                                                                                                                                1. re: honkman

                                                                                                                                  Interesting. I didn't know about the Bale in MM, but if they're associated, then perhaps what the owner in LV meant was that they were just closing down that one.

                                                                                                                                  There was the comment about not having a lease in MM yet, though. So IDK.

                                                                                                                                  I never was a fan of the bahn mi at Bale in LV; K-Sandwiches is so far superior. But I did like some of their bun and com tam dishes, and several of the soups.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                    This will be what, the third time they have moved their LV location? I also usually make the effort to go to K-sandwiches unless we already have stuff to do in that shopping area.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: MrKrispy

                                                                                                                                      Yeah, it'll be at least their second move, third location. Almost nomadic. I think they've only been at the current spot for two or three years.

                                                                                                                                      The vacated space in LV would be a good place for a Mamacita Testa...

                                                                                                                                      1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                        it would be a good spot for pretty much anything besides Vietnamese food!

                                                                                                                              2. Taste of Italy in Hillcrest.

                                                                                                                                1. Looks like Olivetto in Mission Hills is finally out.

                                                                                                                                  Papered-up windows, etc.

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                                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                    Finally. Never understood how that place hung in there for so long. Hope that prime spot finds more worthwhile occupants.

                                                                                                                                  2. Handwritten sign on the door of LW's BBQ: "Closed for repairs".

                                                                                                                                    5 Replies
                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                      Hi Doc,

                                                                                                                                      What is LW'S? Been keeping up with this thread, but don't know that. I just, strangey, did a long post on the best BBQ thread about West Coast BBQ in La Mesa. Interesting, not closed, pretty good, not authentic BBQ. I am going to try that Coop's next time I am over there. Thanks for the review
                                                                                                                                      L

                                                                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                        LW's is a "low-and-slow" place that opened a year ago this month.

                                                                                                                                        Not sure if the sign on their door is literal or portentous. I enjoy eating there from time to time.

                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8926...

                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9767...

                                                                                                                                        1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                          Thanks Doc,

                                                                                                                                          I guess they just didn't make the cut. It is really hard out there to start a rest. and make a good go of it. Thanks for letting me know what LW was! Going by Hazard Center tomorrow mid morning. Trying to decide where for an early lunch? L

                                                                                                                                          1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                            An obituary is probably premature, but "closed for repairs" without adding "will re-open soon" isn't a good sign.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                              last time i went in for smoked wings for MNF it was the busiest I had ever seen it - 4 tables full.

                                                                                                                                    2. It seems that Peri Peri, a nice South African restaurant that opened not too long ago in Rancho Penasquitos, has closed. Technically, the sign on the door only says, "Closed until further notice", but given the fact that 4 restaurants have occupied this space in the last 3 years, I don't have a high expectation that they will re-open. It's a shame, because there are a lot of homes in this area and the food was very good.