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Tuck shop or Chien Fumant for a group of 8

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We're going out with a group of friends and we want a lively atmosphere, good drinks/cocktails and obviously great food. Which one of these two places fit the bill? Price about 50-60 pp before tax and tip.

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  1. Chien Fumant

    1. Both fit the bill IMHO, but it's harder to get a reservation for 8 at Tuck Shop - you need to book well in advance.

      1. $50-60 will be a tad low if that is to include booze. Mains at both average close to $30.
        If not, I prefer the atmosphere at Chien Fumant, but the food at both spots is very good.

        1. Thanks everybody, I did get a reservation at Tuck Shop. Chien Fumant has that policy about credit card to hold the reservation, plus they informed us that we would have to have one bill for the whole table, so we felt Tuck Shop was "simpler".

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          1. re: hungryann

            I hate the "one bill for the whole table" policy. It's 2014. Maybe I'm missing something.

            1. re: nochainsplease

              Really, Montreal is almost the only place in North America where bill splitting even exists as a concept. When I'm in California, New York, or even Toronto, requests to divide bills (or worse yet, items like bottles of wine) are frequently met with blank stares. On my last trip to DC I went to dinner with a group of 15, but we were seated at 2 non-adjacent tables. Despite this inconvenience on our part the restaurant was completely unwilling to even give a separate bill for each table. Try figuring out who owes what when you can't even see what the other table ordered.

              But you hit the nail on the head: In 2014 bill-splitting should be simple in 90% of cases. Every time I try to pay a large bill with a group there's always a cheapskate, so I can't imagine its beneficial from the perspective of tips.

              1. re: Fintastic

                Many places (at least in the U.S.) will automatically include a gratuity if it's a party of more than 8, so bill-splitting is just more work that they don't have to do, considering their tip is automatic. Here, in contrast, I have had places not only gladly provide individual bills, but also divvy up the cost of the bottles of wine, without being asked, instead of just putting the cost of full bottles on someone's tab.

                1. re: cherylmtl

                  Indeed, they said they would automatically add 18% gratuity to the bill, which is fair, but it's a pain to have one bill for the whole table. Plus, they told us, we would have to leave by 9:30 pm. So, all things being equal, we opted for Tuck Shop. I'll have to try Chien Fumant on some other occasion.