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rhonagov Feb 25, 2014 05:30 PM

Hi All,

I'm having a dinner party this weekend and am wondering If I will have enough food. There will be 15 people in total. I'm making the mains and others are bringing appies/dessert.

Will the following be enough:

- 2 roast chickens (4 pounds each)
- wok full of fried rice
- roast yams
- roast broccoli/cauliflower
- big salad
- one 15x10" tray of veggie moussaka

The moussaka/chicken will be the mains.

What are your thoughts?

  1. c oliver Feb 25, 2014 05:41 PM

    Two chickens will make 16 pieces or 18 if you cut the breasts in half. Considering that that includes wings and legs, two is probably skimpy. I'll let others weigh in on the rest.

    1. juliejulez Feb 25, 2014 05:43 PM

      I agree that 2 chickens might be a bit skimpy. Some people will consider the moussaka a side dish since it's vegetarian, and might eat 2 pieces of chicken. You don't specify how much of the sides you're making but you should be fine there.

      To make it easier, why not roast chicken parts instead of whole chickens? That way you can have more of the "substantial" parts (ie thighs and breasts) and less of the less substantial, like wings and drumsticks. And, no carving to worry about before serving.

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      1. re: juliejulez
        c oliver Feb 25, 2014 05:55 PM

        Good idea about the chicken. Costs a little more but, IMO, well worth it.

        1. re: c oliver
          juliejulez Feb 25, 2014 05:57 PM

          Yeah my store sells parts for the same price per pound as whole chickens so it probably costs a bit more because the "good" parts weigh more, but at least it's the same per pound!

          1. re: juliejulez
            fldhkybnva Feb 25, 2014 06:54 PM

            If there are dark meat fans in the room, the leg quarters are often the cheapest part of the chicken.

            1. re: fldhkybnva
              greygarious Feb 26, 2014 06:25 AM

              If buying leg quarters, I remove the section of backbone that is included on the thigh and bag those up for future stockmaking, then sever the joint and cook as two pieces.
              It's almost always cheaper to do that than to buy separate drumsticks or thighs.

              1. re: fldhkybnva
                c oliver Feb 26, 2014 08:01 AM

                But never forget that there are weirdo - like me - who actively don't like dark meat so make sure there are some breasts also. I always cut breast halves in half prior to serving as they're so big.

        2. PHREDDY Feb 25, 2014 06:12 PM

          Yams, at least one four to five ounce potato per person, broccoli about 3 lbs..
          What do you include in your big salad?
          Appy's....what kind and how many?
          Are there any vegetarians?

          1. hotoynoodle Feb 25, 2014 06:40 PM

            yield on a whole chicken is about 75- 80%, so a 4 pound bird will give about 3 pounds of meat, times 2 birds that is 6 pounds. with 15 people that gives only 4 oz per person. as a host i would not consider that enough, even with all the sides. unless you're expecting lots of vegetarians?

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            1. re: hotoynoodle
              fldhkybnva Feb 25, 2014 06:55 PM

              I've never had 75-80% yield from any whole chicken. I usually estimate 50-60%

              1. re: fldhkybnva
                coll Feb 26, 2014 06:32 AM

                75% is the industry standard on bone in meat, although of course your yield may vary.

                Me, I don't serve the dark meat at all, we don't like it. So you'd have to know your audience. I do use it, but it goes in the stock pot, or a casserole. My yield for dinner portions is probably 25%!

                1. re: coll
                  fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2014 06:50 AM

                  Interesting. I've weighed nearly every chicken I've ever made and never had 75%.

                  1. re: fldhkybnva
                    coll Feb 26, 2014 06:54 AM

                    Did you count all the liquid that exudes too? The last chicken I bought I swear had at least a lb or two pumped in there.

                    1. re: coll
                      fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2014 07:20 AM

                      I don't usually but injected birds. I usually just dice and save for later so juice from cutting board goes in too. Hmm now I'm really going to be weighing. I was fascinated I seemed to always have the same yield.

                      1. re: fldhkybnva
                        coll Feb 26, 2014 07:23 AM

                        I should have weighed that last one, it was marked 10.5 lbs on the package but I bet it was just an 8 pounder in the end. No wonder it was 99 cents a lb!

                        1. re: coll
                          fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2014 07:39 AM

                          Yea I try to avoid paying for injected solution. Also your yield is likely higher as you roast much larger birds than I do.

                          1. re: coll
                            c oliver Feb 26, 2014 08:03 AM

                            You're talking about 'parts,' right? Not whole chickens. I've had turkeys that didn't weigh much over 10# :)

                            1. re: c oliver
                              coll Feb 26, 2014 08:20 AM

                              No I'm talking one big heck of a chicken. It was from a small farm and very tasty. Something Amish or similar IIRC.

                              1. re: coll
                                fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2014 08:33 AM

                                That chicken ruled that farm!

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                                  coll Feb 26, 2014 08:34 AM

                                  You could be right! Big Mama.

              2. r
                rhonagov Feb 25, 2014 07:01 PM

                Thank you all for the suggestions.

                We are all students, so I have to keep the cost down. A portion of us are environmentalists/vegetarians. More people (including myself) would eat ethical meat, but I can't afford it now. Hence the vegetarian Moussaka.

                - Whole chicken was on sale for a very good price, cheaper than parts. I'll roast the two and get some more pieces (at least another 10?)
                - Not sure on the salad yet. Will make sure it is hearty (nuts, some sort of goat cheese)
                - Not sure on the appies. I trust my guests will figure it out. Usually this works out with our events.
                - I'll add some lentils to the moussaka instead of mince to make it heartier.

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                1. re: rhonagov
                  hotoynoodle Feb 25, 2014 07:07 PM

                  instead of adding lentils to the moussaka, skip the green salad and make a room temp lentil platter with crunchy stuff like carrots and radish. dress with some olive oil, plenty of lemon juice and black pepper.

                  1. re: hotoynoodle
                    hill food Feb 25, 2014 07:21 PM

                    yeah don't add lentils to the moussaka, that's just sort of weird. maybe orzo, but not lentils. since you have veggie folks who don't want/demand meat that's a nice size of a dish (but be warned the meat-eaters will likely join in) - so THAT's the one you may want to increase)

                  2. re: rhonagov
                    Ttrockwood Feb 25, 2014 09:23 PM

                    How many will be eating chicken? If its only 8-10 people of your 15 then you are ok for chicken with just two

                    1. re: rhonagov
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                      rhonagov Feb 25, 2014 09:40 PM

                      Thanks for the lentils suggestions.
                      And not quite sure how many will be eating chicken. I might just send an email asking how many are OK with meat right now.

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                        Linda VH Feb 26, 2014 03:24 AM

                        Just saw that you are all students. Male students (at least in my day) were always starving and ate alot so I would definitely up the chicken.

                        1. re: rhonagov
                          greygarious Feb 26, 2014 06:36 AM

                          Not much meat on wings or back. With economizing a concern, I would absolutely take the birds apart. Freeze livers separately and make liver with onions or chopped liver when you have enough. The necks, gizzards, hearts, backbones, and wings can be used to make stock, with the addition of any cooked bones that haven't been gnawed on. It costs very little for carrot, onion, celery, and a starch to create an additional meal of soup to accompany sandwiches or good bread and butter. And it's easier and neater to roast the chicken in parts. Google the sheet pan roasted chicken and vegetables from the ATK/CI/CC people. Roasting them on the same pan adds flavor to both the chicken and the vegetables (they use potato, scallion, carrot, and Brussels sprouts but I do potato/sweet potato, carrot, turnip, winter squash, and sometimes apple and/or plantain). And it only takes 40 minutes. You'd have to do more than one pan, and rewarm everything before serving.

                        2. KarenDW Feb 25, 2014 09:59 PM

                          WRT quantities, I would suggest that with several vegetarians in the group, you'll be safe with the 2 chickens. Although I would probably make 3L/3quarts each of the yams and broccoli/cauliflower, or more if your budget will allow.

                          1. Cherylptw Feb 26, 2014 04:23 AM

                            Two chickens is NOT enough even for 10 people and even if some of your 15 guests are vegetarian. You get 8 pieces per bird, that's 16 pieces. A proper serving would be two pieces per person, depending on the age range of the guests. Either supply enough meat for those who eat it or make the entire meal vegetarian. There is nothing worse than being invited to a meal and leaving hungry because there is not enough SATISFYING food.

                            Traditional moussaka contains eggplant and or potatoes; lentils in it just does not go together. One 15 x 10 is not enough; some meat eaters might want some as a side dish. Make two trays.

                            1. PHREDDY Feb 26, 2014 07:28 AM

                              Your salad might be a three bean salad, which if using canned beans, is very economical, quick to prepare and will please all of your guests.
                              The simplest recipe I first learned in college, was chick peas, red beans, green beans ,chopped cilantro, fine chopped red onion, a minced clove of garlic, red wine vinegar, a squeeze of fresh lime juice and some olive oil.
                              this can be made the day before and if made the same day, you do not even have refrigerate it prior to guests eating it. The cost of this bowl of salad which will weigh about 2 lbs should be less than $5..

                              1. boyzoma Feb 26, 2014 07:44 AM

                                How about a Confetti Pasta Salad. Colorful and fairly inexpensive to make and is even better if you make it a day ahead.

                                Ingredients

                                1 box ditalini pasta or small elbows or small shells
                                1 small red onion
                                2 bell peppers of various colors, I used half a pepper of each red, yellow, orange and green
                                2 pieces of celery
                                2 TBSP olive oil
                                1/4 to 2/3 cup reduced fat mayonnaise, begin with 1/4 cup and add more if needed
                                2 to 3 tsp mustard, Dijon, honey or whatever you like
                                1 to 2 TBSP white wine vinegar
                                1 tsp salt (more or less to taste)
                                1/2 tsp parika
                                1/2 tsp. thyme
                                1/2 tsp lemon pepper

                                Instructions

                                Start to boil a large pot of salted water. Once it reaches a rolling boil, add pasta.

                                Clean and chop all vegetables into small cube-like pieces of somewhat equal size.

                                In a large bowl, mix the rest of the ingredients together starting with about a 1/4 cup of mayonnaise and 1 TBSP of vinegar, you can add more later if needed. I like to use maynaise made with olive oil but any light mayo will work.

                                Once the pasta is done, drain it and rinse with cool water. Let it cool a bit and then add pasta to the dressing. Mix well, if it is dry add a bit more mayonnaise and vinegar. I usually use about a 1/3 - 1/2 cup of mayo but it just depends. If you get to a half cup of mayonnaise and it is still not very creamy, try adding a bit more olive oil.

                                Add the vegetables and blend. Refrigerate for at least an hour but better for several hours.

                                 
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                                1. re: boyzoma
                                  PHREDDY Feb 27, 2014 06:37 AM

                                  What we have put out there along with the moussaka, fried rice (if made meatless) and the veggies, should be cost effective. Add in the chicken and it appears you have a real "hungry" crowd pleasing menu! and plenty of it!
                                  Depending where you are, your food cost should be no more than $50 for this meal...real reasonable. (of course not including beverages or consumables cups, plates napkins, etc.)

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                                  MelMM Feb 26, 2014 08:02 AM

                                  Since you don't really want to get more chicken, and perhaps can't afford it, you might consider extending the chicken. Instead of just roasting it, get all the meat off the bones and put it into a casserole of some sort.

                                  Also, if you do just want to serve the chicken roasted, you can cut it into more than 8 pieces. Smaller pieces will make it go further. But if I were you, I'd make a dish out of the meat. Like chicken enchiladas, or a chicken and noodle casserole, or chicken and rice.

                                  You also might consider making an extra batch of the fried rice. That's the only real starch you have, so it's going to have to serve everyone.

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                                  1. re: MelMM
                                    coll Feb 26, 2014 08:21 AM

                                    Wouldn't be the worst thing to have some leftovers for yourself too.

                                    1. re: MelMM
                                      hotoynoodle Feb 26, 2014 09:38 AM

                                      cutting smaller pieces of chicken doesn't mean it's more food, lol, but using it in a casserole kinda thing will definitely help it go further.

                                      the yams are a starch, so the possibility remains to hack up the chicken and roast it over a giant bed of other root vegetables.

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                                        MelMM Feb 26, 2014 09:47 AM

                                        Cutting smaller pieces doesn't make it more food, but it does make it more pieces, which makes it easier to spread around. If you cut into the standard 8 pieces, someone gets a giant breast, while someone else gets a measly wing.

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                                      magiesmom Feb 26, 2014 08:42 AM

                                      I would just make a vegetarian meal.
                                      Lentil soup, moussaka, yams, done.

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                                      1. re: magiesmom
                                        c oliver Feb 26, 2014 01:41 PM

                                        Why?

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                                          magiesmom Feb 26, 2014 04:42 PM

                                          Because I would rather not serve a chintzy amount and meat is much more expensive.

                                          1. re: magiesmom
                                            c oliver Feb 26, 2014 05:28 PM

                                            The meal that the OP is now describing sounds not at all chintzy.

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                                              magiesmom Feb 26, 2014 06:49 PM

                                              No, but my comment came first.

                                              That said, when money is an issue I always prefer to go vegetarian, usually Indian or Mexican.

                                      2. r
                                        rhonagov Feb 26, 2014 11:47 AM

                                        You have all been so helpful. Thank you.
                                        I like the idea of extending the chicken in a casserole. Here is what I will do:

                                        Make some puff pastry before hand and make two trays of pot pie. One dairy based, and one tomato mushroom based. Plus a tray of vegetarian moussaka.
                                        With the yams, broccoli/cauliflower, fried rice, and a bean salad (I have plenty of dried beans) for sides.

                                        I think this will be more than enough!

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                                        1. re: rhonagov
                                          coll Feb 26, 2014 12:11 PM

                                          Sounds good to me! Pot pies are very filling, so no one will go home hungry.

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                                            MelMM Feb 26, 2014 02:24 PM

                                            That sounds fantastic.

                                            1. re: rhonagov
                                              Cherylptw Feb 26, 2014 05:25 PM

                                              That sounds good but if you're making 15 x 10 inch, you may still not have enough for your guests. That size pan makes 16 cups. One cup is a small serving, so count
                                              1 1/2 to 2 cups per meat eating person. You might consider making two pans still. Again, if your guests are young males they will inhale it.

                                              1. re: rhonagov
                                                Ttrockwood Feb 26, 2014 08:39 PM

                                                Sounds like a great solution!

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                                                GAcook Feb 26, 2014 12:21 PM

                                                My rule of thumb is 4 servings per whole chicken or two 'main' pieces per person (leg, thigh, breast - the wing doesn't count because no one eats it unless the chicken is fried). If breasts are very large, cut them in half crosswise for easier eating. My other rule is to always have more food than I think I'll need. Besides, chicken is cheap and makes excellent leftovers (salad, creamed, sandwich). The worst feeling a hostess can experience is nervously watching the serving platter, wondering if it'll be empty before everyone has had enough.

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