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MarkC Feb 22, 2014 11:39 AM

I will be in Long Beach most of next week for a trade show. Appreciate any recs for eating and drinking, particularly near the convention center, but have a car, so can drive if necessary.

  1. JAB Feb 22, 2014 02:10 PM

    2 of my favorites in LB are Schooner or Later for pancakes and Enrique's for Mexican.

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      Gypsy Jan Mar 18, 2014 12:55 PM

      I am so glad to learn that Schooner or Later is still doing well and favorite with CH.

      On a nice morning, there is nothing better than sitting out on the patio that looks over the harbor.

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        JAB Mar 18, 2014 01:12 PM

        As much as I do love the pancakes, the lines and the favoritism for seating is a huge turn off for me.

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          Gypsy Jan Mar 18, 2014 01:33 PM

          Well, Geezo, I am sorry to hear that it's a hipster spot, now.

          I lived in Long Beach twenty years ago when i was trying to climb up the executive ranks at the LA Times, but those days are long ago and far away,

          These days, I take care of Great Danes and Rottweilers in Baja.

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            kevin Mar 18, 2014 04:48 PM

            I actually like the food, if you can believe that so what I usually do is just grab a seat at the counter and lose the view of course.

      2. susans Feb 22, 2014 10:47 PM

        Coffee Cup Cafe for breakfast or lunch, 3734 E. 4th St at Grand. Don't park in the lot across the street. There is a counter and tables.
        http://coffeecupcafe-lb.com/

        Enriques for dinner. The roast chicken is not on the menu, you have to ask for it. Comes with broccoli and his yummy rice, but you can ask for beans instead. There are a couple of combos with shrimp, but you can ask for the shrimp as an entree. I know Enrique's mother-in-law; she says he is fierce about cleanliness in the kitchen at home and in the restaurant.
        http://www.enriqueslongbeach.com/

        It's A Grind coffee on Ocean is popular. I don't go there because it is owned by Praise International and I don't like their politics, but YMMV.

        Modica's Italian deli has some good sandwiches and it is a very short drive from the convention center.
        http://www.modicas.com/

        The Crooked Duck is probably too far for breakfast or lunch, but not for dinner. You can eat at the bar or a table. Very good burger and my BIL likes the meatloaf.
        http://www.thecrookedduck.com/Home_Pa...

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          iheartcooking Feb 25, 2014 12:05 AM

          Love Enrique's, Modica's, and Crooked Duck. It was said above so I just wanted to reinforce :)

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          BacoMan Feb 23, 2014 08:31 AM

          Number Nine for the Chicken Bun.

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            Silverlaker Feb 23, 2014 12:54 PM

            Fuego at Hotel Maya -- solid Mexican food. Be sure to sit on the patio over-looking the Harbor.

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              susiequeue Feb 23, 2014 04:56 PM

              Hi -

              I have eaten at Fuego and while I enjoyed it very much (although it's hard to find) I found it PRICEY. I was pleased to be the guest of a vendor on a cushy expense account. It's a pretty place and very modern, but I'd check the prices before I go... unless money doesn't matter! (Note - It's prob. cheaper at lunch. I was there at dinnertime.)

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                Servorg Feb 23, 2014 05:24 PM

                http://www.hotelmayalongbeach.com/fil...

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              josephnl Feb 23, 2014 02:33 PM

              Michael's on Naples is always a very solid choice for Italian food in Long Beach. It's an excellent spot.

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                revets2 Feb 24, 2014 12:44 AM

                The better restaurants are, unfortunately, not in the convention center area.

                By the same owner, would add Michael's Pizzeria - legit.

                And their newly opened steak house, Chianina.

                For something louder, casual and boisterous, Simzy's.

                Beachwood BBQ too.

                Regarding the Enrique's recc above, they are also known for their pork shank. Don't remember if that's an off menu item too.

                Haven't been in a while but am hearing Benly is still really good.

                Louisiana's Best (you buy/we free) fried seafood is some of the best in SoCal, but the neighborhood may be off putting and not the safest for an out of towner.

                Also some good spots in Little Cambodia like Little La Lune for lunch only or Sophy's.

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                  BacoMan Feb 24, 2014 12:51 AM

                  Aren't James Republic and L'Opera by the convention center? They're pretty good eats I believe.

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                    revets2 Feb 24, 2014 02:20 PM

                    Haven't made it to James Republic yet. Have you? Would like to hear your thoughts.

                    Much prefer Michael's over L'Opera though.

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                      BacoMan Feb 24, 2014 07:08 PM

                      I really see no reason to dine in Long Beach. So no...but people have raved about it.

                      The only place I really like in LB, when there rarely, is Number Nine for the Americanized Bun, and Sochu Lemonade.

                      I used to think L'Opera was amazing before I ever ate in LA...now, I don't know why you'd bother going there. I'd rather drive however much longer to just go to Bucato, Bestia, Chip Spacca, Angelini, etc...

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                        revets2 Feb 25, 2014 11:51 PM

                        I used to think L'Opera was amazing before I ever ate in LA...now, I don't know why you'd bother going there. I'd rather drive however much longer to just go to Bucato, Bestia, Chip Spacca, Angelini, etc...
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                        Yup. It was great in the 90's. Still not bad, just dated and touristy.

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                          BacoMan Feb 26, 2014 12:03 AM

                          Chip Spacca... wow

                          I hate the auto-correct on here sometimes hah

                          But yeah. In younger days, the butternut squash ravioli with sage was at least pretty good.

                          I once accidentally went to a gay single's dinner there with my best friend...

                          Neither of us realized that until we were already at the event, and sadly neither of us happen to be gay.

                          It was an interesting night...

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                            revets2 Feb 26, 2014 12:30 AM

                            That butternut squash ravioli with fried sage was incredibly great.

                            Here is the description now. Doesn't sound appetizing:

                            CAPPELLACCI DI ZUCCA
                            Homemade Pasta Filled with Butternut Squash & Ricotta, Served Over Spicy Marinara Sauce, Finished with Shaved Parmigiano Cheese & a Brown Butter Sage Sauce (this dish contains small traces of pine nuts & walnuts)
                            $19

                            You have to add marinara to that?

                            Had the greatest version in years at Republique couple of weeks ago.

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                              BacoMan Feb 26, 2014 05:42 AM

                              I think the marinara is very thin, and only lightly adorns the dish.

                              But ah well...

                              I don't trust Manzke's food. I'm sure it's fine... just not sure when I will ever really want to go to Republique...

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                                kevin Feb 26, 2014 06:31 AM

                                Manzke is a genius though. After all, he did head the kitchen at Bastide.

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                                  BacoMan Feb 26, 2014 06:34 AM

                                  Which is closed now...so...would seem to be rather a sign of failure than genius.

                                  Anyone who started the travesty that is Petty Cash Taqueria can't be trusted either.

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                                    kevin Feb 26, 2014 06:37 AM

                                    I don't think it was about the chef in this case.

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                                      Servorg Feb 26, 2014 06:44 AM

                                      When you have a hands on owner with an ego bigger than the known Universe the chef isn't going to matter - one way or the other...

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                                        BacoMan Feb 26, 2014 09:13 AM

                                        What else can you go by?

                                        Still, citing a closed restaurant as an achievement does nothing to bolster a chef's name. People like the guy ok, fine, but he doesn't do anything special in my book, and is on my "to avoid" list.

                                        Pretense appears to be the name of his game to me. But other's may find he actually does some good oysters.

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                              FED Feb 26, 2014 10:13 AM

                              sorry, i think maybe it is a case of your taste maturing, rather than the other way around. i've lived in long beach 20 years and have eaten at l'opera several times over that period. i've always said it was louise's food at valentino prices.

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                                JAB Feb 26, 2014 10:26 AM

                                My only memory is one of pretension.

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                                  revets2 Feb 26, 2014 10:25 PM

                                  And Italian lessons in the bathroom.

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                                    FED Feb 27, 2014 09:47 AM

                                    leave the waiters out of this! :)

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                                      revets2 Feb 27, 2014 03:04 PM

                                      ROFL!!!

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                        JAB Feb 24, 2014 06:56 AM

                        The pork shank is still off menu for some strange reason along with the sea bass both of which seem to always be available.

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                      MarkC Feb 24, 2014 06:43 AM

                      Thanks for all the recs. As I said, can be driving distance from the convention center. How is San Pedro?

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                        wkstat Feb 24, 2014 10:38 AM

                        Best food in Long Beach ? No doubt Bake and Broil at 3697 Atlantic. Best everything

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                          Michelle Feb 25, 2014 12:34 PM

                          Agree wholeheartedly, don't miss it!

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                            Ogawak Feb 28, 2014 10:17 AM

                            I don't think Bake N Broil is quite that good, but the pies and cakes are as good as anything in LA, especially the lemon lush pie and the red velvet cupcakes. I enjoy their burger/pie combo.

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                              FED Feb 28, 2014 12:35 PM

                              bake 'n' broil is great for what it is: a neighborhood diner with great $7 to $9 entrees (with soup or salad!). but lately i have noticed the prices creeping up into the $10-$12 range, at which point it becomes a slightly tougher call. mostly go for breakfast and lunch these days. All their cakes and pies are terrific, as are the breakfast pastries.

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                              baggs Mar 6, 2014 05:59 PM

                              You must be joking.

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                                TonyC Mar 19, 2014 09:58 AM

                                lolz indeed.

                                Bake n Broil, LBC's hometown pride, is upscaled polly's at best, overpriced Denny's at worst.

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                                  kevin Mar 19, 2014 10:59 AM

                                  nah, man.

                                  the pies are good there, way better than polly's.

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                                    FED Mar 19, 2014 05:44 PM

                                    he's just trolling. anybody who's tasted one of those pies or cakes knows better. unless they've got no tastebuds at all.

                            3. Discokill Feb 24, 2014 04:14 PM

                              Had a lunch I loved at Pier 76 Fish Grill which I believe is a short walk from the convention center. It's a casual place so more appropriate for a quick lunch but thought the food was much better than what the casual environment indicated. http://www.pier76fishgrill.com/

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                                SteveinLongBeach Feb 24, 2014 09:40 PM

                                Michael's Pizzeria was recently voted best pizzeria in the US on Zagat's. Best or not, it's very good - definitely the best I've had in LA area since Pizzeria Antica in Marina del Rey closed. And there's a downtown branch a few blocks from the convention center. Parker's Lighthouse is quite good too, a short walk from the convention center.

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                                  BacoMan Feb 24, 2014 09:53 PM

                                  Is Michael's pizza actually better than Mozza, Sotto, Olio, Bestia, Settebello, Mouther Dough, Milo & Olive, etc...?

                                  Maybe it is, but it just seems so unlikely for some reason..

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                                    namstermonster Feb 25, 2014 09:55 AM

                                    been a while since I tried all of those (still haven't tried mother dough) but I liked Michael's better than mozza, sotto, olio, and bestia, while on par with what I remember of settebello and milo & olive.

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                                      BacoMan Feb 26, 2014 12:04 AM

                                      Crazy...

                                      I guess I'll have to go after all one day.

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                                        revets2 Feb 26, 2014 12:33 AM

                                        The restaurant or pizzeria?

                                        If talking about the pizzeria, he has a very dedicated pizzaiolo who is very dedicated to dough.

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                                      Fig Newton Feb 25, 2014 12:47 PM

                                      Agree -- Michael's Pizzeria is legit. I consider it walking distance to the CC. Next door is Beachwood BBQ, which I really like. And their beer selection is the best in the city.

                                      Enrique's is great.

                                      I have only been to that new place where Bono's was once, but really like it. (I realize this is not helpful for someone not from the area, but maybe someone can chime in with the new name.)

                                      Open Sesame and Magic Lamp for Mediterranean on 2nd street.

                                      I've been enjoying the new Shabu place on 2nd street. Food is great, service is slow.

                                      Fuego at the Maya is amazing for the location and view--that's better than the food or the price. Not to say the food is *bad* -- it's better than average.

                                      Breakfast: I like Chuck's Coffee Shop, but sometimes think it's just because of the nostalgia. I adore their ham n' scram with corn tortillas.

                                      I live in San Pedro, and think the better restaurants are in Long Beach and Torrance, frankly. If you are looking for specific cuisines, we can help you a little better.

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                                        kevin Feb 25, 2014 03:34 PM

                                        Yeah, the Weasel is dope.

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                                      kevin Feb 25, 2014 03:33 PM

                                      Yes, Schooner or Later.

                                      The Potholder.

                                      Joe Jost's

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                                        FED Feb 25, 2014 03:55 PM

                                        plenty of suggestions here ... close to the convention center is tough, but michael's pizzeria and Beachwood are both on the promenade and that's relatively close. Omelet inn is close by and good for breakfast or lunch. bake ''n' broil, is of course the go-to place for baked stuff, but it's quite a ways away. i've eaten at fuego and it's just fine with a very nice view. didn't find it all THAT expensive. lots of love for enrique's, which is understandable, but i really like lola's, too ... on fourth street by No. 9.

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                                          FED Feb 28, 2014 09:48 AM

                                          OCWeekly just came up with this list of "10 essentials". some notables left on, but some on here i haven't tried yet. http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforki...

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                                            kevin Feb 28, 2014 11:01 AM

                                            those red velvety at Bake n Broil are swell.

                                            So is there coconut Creme pie.

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                                              phamschottler Feb 28, 2014 11:23 AM

                                              Second Joe Jost's and Jongewaard's Bake n Broil.

                                              If you're feeling more adventurous, try Crystal Thai Cambodian Cuisine (stick to the Khmer, NOT Thai, dishes -- same for any other Thai + Cambodian restaurants in that neighborhood).

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                                                loreeLB Mar 19, 2014 11:03 AM

                                                i know this has passed but still had to chime in - there are MANY reasons to dine in the LBC (BacoMan) I'll name some faves:
                                                Michaels On Naples
                                                Michaels Pizzeria
                                                Joe Josts - a local institution!
                                                Enrique's - amazing pork shank
                                                Lola's
                                                L'Opera
                                                Crooked Duck
                                                James Republic
                                                76 fish grill

                                                just to name a few - And The Stave for Craft Cocktails.... there are other places opening soon that should be notable too!!

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                                                  kevin Mar 19, 2014 11:11 AM

                                                  please describe the 76 fish grill further,

                                                  and yeah, i really really really like Joe Jost's, which is quite exceptional: crummy, mass-produced beers in schooners, gruff barkeeps, almost banker's hours (they close at ten or 11), great egg salad sandwiches slathered with mustard, ultra-cheap prices, and classic surroundings reminiscent of a classic pool hall crossed with a VFW outpost.

                                                  btw, what do you think of the World Famous Reno Room ???????????

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                                                    loreeLB Mar 19, 2014 11:24 AM

                                                    fish grill is just that, fresh fish simple. decent prices, little casual place off ocean, if you blink you miss it! fresh made lemonades too. Known for their take on the lobster roll...

                                                    Gotta love joe's! egg salad in a boat with their rusty's chips YUM!

                                                    not a fan of the reno room... prefer Joe's or The Interlude for my local 'dive-type' bars

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                                                      kevin Mar 19, 2014 11:27 AM

                                                      "egg salad in a boat" Oh, you mean you order sans bread to be healthy ???? is that what you are getting at ??????

                                                      :)

                                                      Tell me more about the Interlude.

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                                                        loreeLB Mar 19, 2014 11:35 AM

                                                        nope, not to be healthy, the crunch of those chips with their egg salad is a match made in heaven :) we go too often, the guys who work there eat it that way lol.

                                                        The Interlude on Clark - one of the oldest bars in the LBC, free popcorn, free hot dogs, older crowd usually but lots of youngsters mix in, CHEAP stiff drinks, pool tables, 1-2 tvs, jukebox. Great neighborhood place for a drink!

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                                                          kevin Mar 19, 2014 11:40 AM

                                                          so sorry can you describe the egg salad in a boat further:

                                                          it's their egg salad on top of the carton-boat of pretzels, and sports peppers, and pickled eggs or is it just the egg salad on top of a bag of lay's potato chips, for instance ????

                                                          cool, i'll hit up the interlude if ever in the area.

                                                          but the world famous reno room has always piqued my unfaltering interest.

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                                                        susans Mar 19, 2014 11:56 PM

                                                        I've just seen that Pier 76 Fish Grill has lost it's lease and will be re-opening on Pine Ave. April 1st.

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                                                      jessejames Mar 19, 2014 11:57 AM

                                                      call me crazy but i love supermex in belmont shore

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