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A Kosher sushi restaurant in San Francisco

alopatenko Feb 19, 2014 10:38 PM

I recently heard about a kosher sushi restaurant which was recently open in San Francisco

has anybody from here been there?
How good is it?
Chefs are well known... I expect something good ...

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  1. Robert Lauriston Feb 20, 2014 10:28 AM

    Looks like it's a caterer / delivery service rather than a restaurant.

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    1. re: Robert Lauriston
      Melanie Wong Feb 20, 2014 10:35 AM

      Here's the brochure for delivery to JCC on Tuesdays and Thursdays:

      Under the supervision of Rabbi Joel Landau of Adath Israel.

      1. re: Melanie Wong
        sugartoof Feb 20, 2014 10:54 AM

        It's not certified, which will matter to some people, unless they trust the supervision or are okay with "Kosher style".

        In SF, Sabra Grill and (I think) Shangri-La vegetarian, are the only two certified.

        1. re: sugartoof
          Robert Lauriston Feb 20, 2014 11:08 AM

          Per the page Melanie linked to, it's a kosher pop-up in an uncertified cafe.

          1. re: Robert Lauriston
            sugartoof Feb 20, 2014 11:36 AM

            The catering company itself doesn't appear certified either. They hired a Rabbi to supervise them under his discretion.

            1. re: sugartoof
              Robert Lauriston Feb 20, 2014 11:46 AM

              The syntax is screwy, but I think this is trying to say that the sushi is kosher: "PLEASE NOTE that the JCCSF Cafe is NOT certified kosher. Items from Twelve Tribes with a Kosher certification sticker from the Va'ad are the only prepared items to be considered kosher, with the exception of Lchaim Sushi boxes."

              1. re: Robert Lauriston
                Melanie Wong Feb 20, 2014 11:58 AM

                It is confusing. This page says that the operations of the sushi company are carried out in Adath Israel's kosher kitchen.

                Then the vimeo piece has a caption that Rabbi Landau is a supervisor in Va'ad Kosher. But none of the text that I can find says outright that LChaim is supervised by Vaad.

                I posted a pointer on the kosher board. Maybe someone there has tried the sushi or can offer an opinion on the supervision.

                1. re: Melanie Wong
                  sugartoof Feb 20, 2014 01:00 PM

                  Maybe it's cheaper, and less work and they figure it's "Kosher enough" for the Bay Area to skip certification and use the Rabbi's independent services. As noted, they don't mention his affiliation with any certification program in the bio.

                  As for the Sushi, it looks like chefs from Barracuda Sushi.

                  I don't see hours, or that it's a restaurant.

                  1. re: sugartoof
                    wolfe Feb 20, 2014 01:35 PM

                    Pick-up or delivery twice a week.

                    The real question is does anyone who doesn't keep kosher care. If it isn't "Kosher" then my daughter won't eat it.
                    Meanwhile my son makes bacon.

                    Personally I decide by WWRSS.*

                    *What would Rabbi Schneerson say?

                    1. re: wolfe
                      sugartoof Feb 20, 2014 03:07 PM

                      Agree it's a very individual issue.

                      Jokes aside, Scheerson Center opened up in Richmond, with catering. It appears there are a number of new kosher kitchens for events turning up in SF.

                      1. re: sugartoof
                        wolfe Feb 20, 2014 03:49 PM

                        Correction Schneerson Center opened in the Richmond.

                        1. re: wolfe
                          sugartoof Feb 20, 2014 05:16 PM

                          Right. Richmond District.

                          1. re: sugartoof
                            davidg1 Mar 12, 2014 02:16 PM

                            It's kosher, certified by the va'ad, made in the supervised kitchen of an orthodox synagogue. When it's sold in an uncertified outlet like the JCC cafe, it's sold in its sealed packaging.

                            1. re: davidg1
                              sugartoof Mar 12, 2014 05:28 PM

                              Website was revised and they added a Va'ad logo.

                              The kitchen itself isn't listed as Va'ad certified, but they require certified caterers to use it.

                              Seems a little screwy (Is the fish monger Kosher? Is it being stored with seafood?) but anyone who needs to care about this will research and decide on their own if it meets their own needs and trustworthy. We don't normally discuss catering companies on Chowhound anyway.

                              1. re: sugartoof
                                davidg1 Mar 12, 2014 07:44 PM

                                Apparently they're more than a catering company, as they sell individual orders to the public for pickup.

                                Why is it screwy if it's certified? Fish certainly doesn't need to come from a kosher fishmonger. Not sure where you get that idea from.

                                1. re: davidg1
                                  alopatenko Mar 12, 2014 09:54 PM

                                  I tried sushi served by them today
                                  They are excellent

                                  I do not have any reasons not to trust to Rabbi Landau.
                                  If he says it's kosher, then it's kosher

                                  1. re: davidg1
                                    sugartoof Mar 12, 2014 10:38 PM

                                    As stated it's a caterer with pop up delivery/takeout hours.

                                    Here's a discussion which touches on the Koshering concerns:

                                    Again, they didn't initially have the certification listed, they just listed the Rabbi supervising it. That we're having all this discussion to figure out what the place even is, who their Sushi chef it, and so on, will raise red flags for those who care, and be trivial for the rest. For those who don't care about certification, and aren't strict about it, they might as well go to Tataki and order carefully.

                                    1. re: sugartoof
                                      The Chowhound Team Mar 20, 2014 12:17 PM

                                      As with discussions on the Kosher board, arguing over whether something is or isn't sufficiently Kosher isn't really considered on topic here. It's fine to report the facts of what supervision exists, but debates about whether that supervision is sufficient aren't a good fit for Chowhound. We've removed some posts here and would encourage people to turn to authorities they personally trust to verify whether this supervision meets their needs. Thanks.

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        Avrahamshan Apr 2, 2014 04:31 PM

        Some important notes that I would like to respond to:

        We are proud to be under the supervision of the Vaad of Northern California

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          Avrahamshan Apr 2, 2014 04:32 PM

          We currently operate everyday but only accomadate individual orders of 100$+. Otherwise we suggest purchasing from the different locations that sell our sushi in Berkley, Oakland and San Francisco

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