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Does anyone else hate Bay Cities (venice)?

There is an old post about how great this is so I think I need a counter-post.
I ate there before 1990 &even then it wasn't great. Was crowded (inside& outside), and building looks ugly (inside& outside).
The 2 negative posts described this correctly, I think. The "bread" they are talking about, is not great, like Subway. Someone said machine made.
To answer that person's post, there is a lot better stuff. (both quantity& quality) It would have to be really extraordinary to make it worth the wait& decor.

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  1. Er, do you mean the Bay Cities Deli in Santa Monica (not Venice)? And have you been there more recently? Seems a little odd to judge a place by your visit(s) more than 2 decades ago....

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    1. re: ilysla

      The "bread" they are talking about, is not great, like Subway
      This says it all. Nothing else needs to be said.

      1. re: Porthos

        Bay Cities bread has as much in common with Subway's as the food at Crazy Rock'N Sushi has in common with Mori Sushi...

        1. re: Servorg

          Exactly. Deliberately inflammatory statement meant to elicit responses?

      1. Of course we all have different likes and dislikes. But I wouldn't think the look (inside and out) of a take-out market would really matter much at all.

        I like Bay Cities and go there every couple of weeks. In part becasue I otherwise drive that stretch of Lincoln a couple of times a week. I like the bread. It definitely is not great and is bested by plenty of artisnal loaves, but it is fresh and it is very inexpensive. It's not dense by design, which sometimes is a good thing.

        I buy cheese there quite a bit as they have there's portioned into relatively small chunks so that one can get a nice selection without buying a lot of volume. They also have fresh Gioia burrata and terrines they'll portion out. The check-out lines, and wait therein, are not nearly as bad as the wait at the deli counter. You can even grab one of the premade Godmothers and avoid the deli line.

        It's not a fabulous place, but if one is otherwise within a few minutes drive, it's totally functional IMO.

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        1. re: john gonzales

          I somewhat agree.

          I think it's excessively ovverrated though.

          1. re: kevin

            Agree!...and this from an Italian boy someone who has been a customer for nearly 60 years! It may be one of the best of its kind in the LA area these days...but it is a mere shadow of what it once was and that was a real Italian deli with a passion for quality. Sadly, no longer...it is now more of a fast food operation (a decent one!) with a market on the side!

        2. No, I don't hate it.

          I find Bay Cities a good, consistent, nice sandwich to take along to the beach or hiking, etc.
          The lines can be long, in my experience they move fast, and the bread is really one of the reasons I like the sandwich so much, actually.
          Opposed to your 'great' bread made with the same additive they add to items that require elasticity…
          Like shoe soles.

          1. If you don't like their sandwiches (and I really do including their Chicken Parm, Meatballs and Hot Pastrami) you might try their prepared Hot Foods before you blast an entire restaurant you haven't been to in years. Some of their very tasty hot dishes include...
            Chicken Parmesan
            Eggplant Parmigiana
            Lasagna - meat
            Spaghetti with Sausage
            Spaghetti with Meatball
            Mac & Cheese (2 kinds)
            Chicken Milanese
            Pepper Steak Hoagie
            Lasagna - veggie
            Sausage & Pepper Hoagie
            BBQ Beef
            Lasagna - veggie
            Stuffed Shells
            New York Milanese
            (breaded roast beef)

            And if you don't want to go back it just makes the lines shorter for me,

            1. csh ?? did you mean subway bread is great? or the bread is like subway's? I think Bay Cities sandwich rolls are very good.

              1. I don't see how anyone can hate Bay Cities food related. It is above average sandwiches with extremely high consumer expectations and many times suffers from its own success.

                I absolutely hate the parking and the fucking idiots that drive like morons. Parking so tight that your car may get banged by the heifer adjacent.

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                1. re: A5 KOBE

                  There's no way I'll park in the lot unless it's right when they are opening on a weekday or about 20 minutes before closing on a Sunday.

                  1. re: A5 KOBE

                    "It is above average sandwiches"


                    1. re: ns1

                      Just curious, what do you consider average Italian sand?

                      1. re: A5 KOBE

                        k to be fair, BC does have above average italian sandwiches - the quality of ingredients is definitely there.

                        but when it comes down to delicious execution, man they miss the mark for me everytime. grease that runs out of the sandwich (due to the peppers that they use) + inside that falls out @ every bite = mad fails

                        I would take a sandwich from jersey mike's over bay cities ^_^

                  2. It's in Santa Monica, not Venice, and you last visited it 25 years ago???? Why the sudden urge to post, unless you're just trolling with nothing better to do.

                    I like it for many reasons, sandwiches have little to do with it, but the Chicken Parm is great.

                    1. Your taste buds are really different than mine; I love Bay Cities bread with my pastas and soups. I wouldn't dream of using subway bread like that at home.

                      1. The place isn't a godsend like most people claim, but the bread is the one thing you can't hate about Bay Cities.

                        1. Used to get godmothers all the time in the 70's when I was a student. Moved to north county SD in the early 90's. When I come up to visit mom, she gets me an eggplant parm to go. It is still really really good. But every time I drive down Lincoln on a Saturday and see that parking lot….

                          1. It's no destination. The company I worked for was right around the corner. If I happened to be in the office (i worked in the field) it was a good place to walk to. Much better than Subway as I recall tho haven't been there in a few years.

                            1. yes its overpriced garbage .!!!!

                              1. I think the bread is great - when it's warm and fresh.

                                But once it cools down? Not all that special.

                                I don't hate the place, and it's my go to place to pick up fresh burrata, but I don't have any cravings for their much-lauded sandwiches. But in fall fairness, I never crave subs.

                                1. The food there is digusting pig slop...now stay away so I can get my BC fix every weekend without having to wait in long lines.

                                  1. I haven't been for a while , but I don't remember the bread being anything like Subway. Subway bread to me doesn't have much flavor at all.

                                    I find Togos a lot better and you can actually get a a meal;sandwich,drink and chips for $6. Quality of the ingredients is also a lot better.

                                    I think people like to hate on Bay Cities because of the long lines. I do remember the sandwiches being quite good though.

                                    They do well because it's hard to find a similar product in L.A ..if they were in SF I don't think they'd get much attention..